Proving the Earth is not Flat - Part 1 - The Horizon
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- čas přidán 10. 06. 2016
- This is the first in a series of videos that show how anyone can prove to themselves that the earth is not flat. It is a spherical spinning ball. In this segment, I discuss how flat earthers are confused about the horizon, and I demonstrate how the horizon perfectly fits the globe earth model, and shows the curve of the earth when you know what to look for.
Why don't the clouds move?
They do. At this scale, the clouds you see are REALLY BIG, and move very SLOWLY in comparison to the size of the whole earth. But you can see that the clouds do move in these magnified and stabilized animations made from the same images.
svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/2971
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Source references:
Calculate the curve of the earth at Metabunk.org/curve
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Also check out my series Flat Earth Falsities:
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FAQ frequently asked questions.
Q. Why don't the clouds move?
A. They do. At this scale, the clouds you see are REALLY BIG, and move very SLOWLY in comparison to the size of the whole earth. But you can see that the clouds do move in these magnified and stabilized animations made from the same images:
svs.gsfc.nasa.gov/2971
Q. Why does the earth look round when Neil deGrasse Tyson said it is oblate and pear-shaped?
A. It is only oblate and pear-shaped by a tiny amount, too tiny to see with the naked eye. Tyson never said it LOOKS, like a pear. Rather it is a very accurate measurement.
czcams.com/video/sFdw_DNTZtY/video.html
Q. Why are there no stars in photographs of the earth and moon?
A. Stars don't show in photographs unless a long exposure is used, but if you do that you would overexpose the subject.
czcams.com/video/RCfsLrLPVqs/video.html
But thats NASAS FAKERY BRO!!!!111!11
The clouds are really big, and photoshopped.
Why are they photoshopped? Because rather than take a photograph NASA uses data to reconstruct their images. They claim there is no other alternative, and that is the crux of the problem. they have no objective proof but an artists rendition
See, when you make a claim like that, you then have to prove that the image is an artist's rendering. You don't get to make the claim and have it be automatically true. And you have to do this, for literally every picture ever taken from space. Because if even one of them are real, the entire theory of a flat Earth becomes garbage.
I make that claim and it is true, because NASA says so. They do not hide at all. You can find this out as easily as I can the video is all over youtube. I trust you will validate or not. Your call
You play chess against a pidgeon, and you win. You always win. But what difference does it make, the Pidgeon reacts by taking a shit and walk away because it doesn't understand how chess works/ is played for obvious reasons. That's exactly how it feels to deal with flat earthers.
How old are ??
money they think the same
You talk and hate with no theory
immature
+Shawn Gray how old are you you talk and hate
yet have no theory of your own
And cant explain
I'm own words
this means I'm seeing a lack of understanding from your part of this discussion.
I'm nither flat earth
or round.
And I know a lie when I see it
in my face.
I'm old enoff to see every moon pic just about as it was
published.
And bull shit is floating under our face.
+Shawn Gray please stop
+dzeykubas
👎
This literally the most hilarious thing I've read in a week XD
This comments section brings up the saying, “It’s damn hard to win an argument against a smart person, but it’s nearly impossible to win an argument against a stupid one.”
I hope all flat earthers die in a car accident.
@@YzaesDuo I hope you keep digging til you find China or Australia
@@YzaesDuo Yeah, at least we won't get to climb on the aide of a fake spinning ball anymore.
@@ManleyDestine Im a flat earther now, sorry.
@@YzaesDuo It's okay, I'm just working on my "blue balls" globular conditioning. I'm not a flat earther. I'm just siding with logical reasoning.
I still can't believe that we're discussing this in XXI century. That's just... sad.
That's the benefit of believing the bible, ie the FE cult!
Shut up you're sad
The fact their can be a visible, distinct horizon line and we can zoom in on it and there's not more to see over that line tells us something. If the world were flat, the horizon line would gradually fade off into the distant and not come to an abrupt end. The horizon line from our point of view is the top of the earth and then it curves over. If the earth where flat, what would the horizon line be? Why do boats ride on top of it like a child drawing of a boat on water? Boats should never hit a horizon line on a flat earth, they would only fade from sight before reaching the edge of that flat earth and the water would not have a top the way it's seen here.
but it does fade out. walk outside to try zooming in
@@themsimisi The objects fade out as they should, the horizon line in the video obviously doesn't as I described. You can see the horizon line without zooming in and there no need to zoom in for what I'm describing. It should fade out similar to painting shades of grey and then the lightest grey being the last to see as an object or horizon line matches the sky. I'm talking about a gradient and there is not a gradient here, there's a distinct line where the horizon ends and no gradient of water color fading away until it matches the sky color. czcams.com/video/ys3vRmxoIOY/video.html Turn this painting around and this is what the horizon line on water should look like. The objects fade out like this, but the horizon line does not. We can't see the objects fade out of sight completely because they get obstructed by the horizon like as they go over it and behind it.
Are you referring to haze? Heat or dust haze? Distortions resulting from atmospheric conditions? You categorically state "I am not a flat earther but" you use all the FE cult's expressions and claims and you like, believe and are subscribed to FE cut channels and videos. No to mention "Convex Earth" which was an April Fool joke to expose the gullible Do you know "Convex Earth" means curved earth, i.e. spherical earth.@@themsimisi
That is the very point... it does do exactly what you supposed it would do “....if it were flat”.
How do l know ??? Because i traveled to the very point where the boat rises into the “air invisible” only, that “invisible thingy, is Salt Water too.
You would do well for your brain to spend the money and personal time requires to see it for yourself.
No other proof will matter .
Most want the magic trick revealed for FREE, and with no effort of their own more than clicking on a video and expect it all to fall neatly on their eyeballs.
Glad we still have the indoctrinated, or else understanding the Flat for thousands of miles will become very boring indeed.
I resisted all that non-sense that is Flat Earth, until l was challenged to prove it to myself.
It did not come for free, not in my spare time.... l invested the time and money sufficient and was glad to be in a position, which l created for myself, and could afford the luxury.
No one can do the search for you.
You owe it to yourself as an adult. What are you going to answer to your grandchildren ??
Make the time to study the matter and work out the math and then get out of your comfort zone and watch the reality come alive like never before.
Perhaps l should sell my proof and documentation 🤔🧐????
Appears so many lazy humans are too laid back to do it for themselves they may actually enjoy paying me NOT to get their ass off the couch. 🤔🧐🤑
@@BlueOriginAire It DOES NOT do what I said it would do if there earth were flat and it DOES NOT do what one would suppose or expect it would do if it were flat, as I explained, that's why I explained a totally different observation than what was actually happening.
I have seen the horizon for myself. You can pretty much do it for free and doesn't take much money at all. The research I am talking about is a simple visual research as the video shows. Traveling out to the horizon on the water does not help anyone study the distant horizon on the water from a distance, you have to be distant from it for that observation. What the video shows and what anyone could see with their naked eye is for sure the truth or what is, it's our interpretation of that information that is the problem and without certain basic knowledge of how things work, some people will have the wrong interpretation and with their uncertainty they will wait to be told what they are seeing by people who understand it.
I'm glad you said all that flat earth nonsense, but then you seemed to have gotten tricked into believing it. Your instincts were correct at first, but the point you made about not waiting for others to do the research for you has made you a victim of your own advise. You then listened to others nonsense, didn't think for yourself on that matter and fell for that nonsense because you simply didn't understand for yourself and seem to lack a basic understanding of how things work, like light and distance and perspective that others are able to know without deep research. You listened more to others talk about the earth being flat because you also didn't understand all the knowledge of the people who were saying it is round. It's a misunderstanding all around of the information and some type of understanding for misinformation.
The observation that is interpreted correctly is It shows what is to be expected if the earth were curved. I already explained what would happen if it were flat. I'd have to make an artistic rendering of what a flat earth horizon on the water would look like because you can't see it in reality.
There are lots of things I accept other people to do for me, like medial science research. I will still go to the hospital for an injury and I won't spend my time to do research for what I trust others, who actually do the studying themselves, to know.
All this other stuff you say about, "It did not come for free, not in my spare time.... l invested the time and money sufficient and was glad to be in a position, which l created for myself, and could afford the luxury. You owe it to yourself as an adult. What are you going to answer to your grandchildren ?? Perhaps l should sell my proof and documentation ?? Appears so many lazy humans are too laid back to do it for themselves they may actually enjoy paying me NOT to get their ass off the couch." This stuff is meaningless. It's some sort of boring braggadocio that brings nothing to the conversation. Place meaningless emojis here.
It's been almost 2 years since you posted this video, and it's still pissing flat earthers off. A sign of excellence!
equaltemp Explain how we have not accomplished North-South circumnavigation yet?? We've only done so with east and west but not north and South. You know why? Because you cant!!! We live in a dome!!! Why do you think NASA was created a couple of months after "Operation Fish bowl" To. Hide the evidence of us humans living in a dome. Why do you think all counties in the world signed this treaty-The main purpose of the Antarctic Treaty, which was signed in Washington on December 1, 1959, is to ensure "in the interest of all mankind that Antarctica shall continue for ever to be used exclusively for peaceful purposes and shall not become the scene or object of international discord." This means they are hiding something in Antarctica!! It's all propaganda for many reasons as covering up the truth. Even NASA stated they used Photoshop to edit earths visuals!!!!! Wake up you fucking piece of shit.
Umm, this took ten seconds to find. www.guinnessworldrecords.com/world-records/first-circumnavigation-via-both-poles-surface
@Angel Galarza
Did you just copy-paste the flat earth comments from the article word by word? Do you have the capacity to form your own thoughts as well?
Edit: And, bam!, suddenly his replies are gone.
Flatards remind me of Hitler. Fighting on to the bitter end, without any hope of winning. Although, Hitler did give up, in the end, and shot himself.
if earth is flat
then im a god
the funny thing is, the people who slept during science class in high school, are now the people who are telling others to 'wake up'.
here comes the flat earth scientist lol
rafb lol, too true.
lol
If the Sun and Moon did get smaller as it moved away from us, then the flat Earth Sun - which supposedly hovers 3000miles over the Earth - would still just be ~9250miles away from Canada, when it is over Australia - which would mean that it would still be almost 1/3 of the regular size - and clearly visible in the night sky...
Oh... I wouldn't say he's wrong on the Divergent Perspective thing. It doesn't even rise to the level of wrong. It's complete batshit.
Flat earther logic: Give me video evidence of curvature.
(you do)
Them: no not that, it's fake. But here, look at this video, it'll prove the earth is flat!
IF the Earth is flat, I guess as an Artilleryman I must have been taught wrong by my teachers.. How did all those 155mm shells manage to hit their targets if my fire control data was bogus???
Here is an excerpt from a lesson on projectile trajectories at the US Army Field Artillery School at Ft Sill, OK
i. Rotation. Although the earth rotates at a constant rate, the correction for rotation varies with a number of factors. Therefore, rotation is more readily considered a nonstandard condition. Factors influencing the effect of rotation of the earth on the travel of a projectile are the direction of fire, angle of departure, velocity of projectile, range to the target, and latitude of the gun. Corrections for these factors are presented in firing tables. The correction tables provide all the data needed for determining corrections to compensate for rotation. However, some background theory of rotational effects may assist you in gaining an understanding of ballistics.
1) Curvature effects exist because we use a map range for which the surface of the earth is assumed to be flat, whereas the actual range is measured on a sphere. The gun-target (GT) range is computed for a plane tangent to the surface of the earth at the gun. When the projectile reaches this range, it will still be above the curved surface of the earth and will continue to drop. This is of little significance except at very long ranges. It is disregarded when firing tables are used, since firing table ranges include the curvature effect.
2) A final rotational effect is that of latitude. When the gun and target are at different latitudes, the eastward rotational velocity effects imparted to the projectile are different from those imparted to the target. For example, if the gun is nearer the equator, the projectile will travel faster and therefore, farther to the east than the target (the effect left or right will depend on the hemisphere). When the gun and target are at the same latitude, the projectile will be deflected away from the target. The projectile tends to travel in the plane of the great circle containing the gun and target at the time of firing. Because of the rotation of the earth, the great circle plane is continuously changing. When the latitude is other than that at the equator, the projectile will be pulled out of its original vertical plane by the force of gravity, which operates from the center of the earth and not perpendicular to the axis of the earth. For example, if a gun was placed at the North or South pole, and a projectile was fired due South or North respectably, towards the equator, the projectile will impact west of the target due to the rotation of the earth.
2. Effects of nonstandard conditions of deflection and the factors which effect lateral deviation (Figure 2-20).
Pat Dennis you didn’t hit shit with nothing artillery man
There's a few Arabs missing body parts crawling around in Hell looking for their 72 virgins that might disagree with you..
Trill Cosby
And how would you know?
How do you know the Earth is flat?? Only a total moron thinks that.. I hope you realize how utterly stupid you flat Earth people sound.
FE cultists are so utterly brainwashed, uneducated and stupid they don't realise that they are stupid.
The horizon isn't actually flat at all. We just can't perceive the curve without tools to assist. There are several experiments done using flat planes to show that there is actually a curve.
Its like asking a bacteria if the tenis ball its on is flat or round, they wouldn't be able to tell just looking to the horizon. People forget how big the earth is (to us, anyway)
The thing about the orange slice is interesting. I have wondered about that. He's right in that most people would never see anything more than a flat line all the way around the horizon because of the massive relative size of the Earth and the fact that they are so close to it. However, if you get high enough you do begin to see a curve. Much higher than a passenger plane ever goes.
Dude wait until the flat earthers arrive at your video. You're in for a treat.
Lol, yeah, looking forward to
it. ;)
You've done a great job debunking them. Enjoy your videos. Decided to dip my toe in.
Thanks dude much appreciated. These people make creationist look rational, hope you ready.
Actually they aren't the same people. That's what makes them so interesting. Many flat earhers have a problem with young earth creationist. They even railed against Kent Hovind. Most flat earthers I've interacted with are New Age nutters, many of them even speak out against religion. This is a whole new breed of magical crap.
I don't think they'll come. Even the thickest FEs have realised the limelight they've been craving to be in only serves as a spotlight on their willful ignorance resulting in (well deserved) ridicule. By and large, they've crawled back under the rocks from where they came. Only this DerpInsideTheRabbitHole idiot seems to engage in public discussions by now.
(but maybe this is only me hoping)
Can't a flat earther from the northern hemisphere, call a flat earther from the southern hemisphere, and describe the DIFFERENT STARS TO EACH OTHER??
The flattard will tell that the phone are hacked by NASA
Flat earthers simply refuse to understand just how enormous the earth is.
and how many fake images there are.
We understand everything you understand about the globe.. but the difference is we know it doesn't make sense.. gravity does not exist fact.. if it did then there would never be a leaf on a tree EVER..
Diddums. Can't diddums read? Poor ickle wickle diddums.@@chrisfoxworth2494
No you don't Anton, as has been proved,
Anton, I've navigated around the world a few times. How about you?
I've also navigated to the Antarctic. No Ice Wall. How about you?
What is the relationship between longitude and distance when travelling east or west parallel to the equator?. If you know the answer then you know the earth is a spheroid. If you don't you are not qualified to comment on the earth’s shape.
Please explain the principles behind the development and functioning of a gyrocompass? If you can then you know the earth is a slowly rotating spheroid and gravity is a fact. If you don't you are not qualified to comment on gravity, the earth's shape or movement.
@@antonjoseph2177
@@antonjoseph2177 What?
Strange that this video is four years old and somehow garnered so much attention in the last few months.
The wonders of the algorithm. Also I think there was one guy spreading the link somewhere. I dunno, I don't remember how I got here
I find it hilarious to look at pro flat earth comments and not find a single one without grammatical errors.
Quick Covers same that earthers can not finish their story without calling truthers retarted. Still there is no proof it's a globe, so it stays flat to me. I love to be the stupid one, thats why I live free.
This thread is utterly and amusingly confirmed complete... The results speak for themselves 😆😆
Vin Ham @6:30 with the sailboat and Cruise ship, how do you explain that with a "flat Earth"? You can't just say it's fake either, if you simply got up and saw a sailboat in the water yourself, you'd see the same thing.
You'll notice most of the people who think the earth is flat are also highly religious. Thinking isn't their strong suit
Most of them are religious towards judaism.
DerMeister821 No they aren't. Christianity is the main religious doctrine of the scientifically illiterate.
Nope, you're showing some serious illiteracy with that statement.
A. Most of the scientific base we have was from Christians.
B. Yes, most flat earthers are from Hebrew Roots and similar type jewish sects.
Define "here". I'm talking about the United States.
YOUR BRAIN DEAD
It's hard to believe flat earthers are a real thing.
Have you met people? It's not hard to believe at all.
Religion, isn;t it.
@@boffeycn just cultism and stupidity I think.
@@unclescam3783 The present FE cult in the “west” is basically a Christian cult, plus the usual loony hangers on, based on the biblical claims of the Brit, Sam. “Parallax" Rowbotham made in the mid 19th.C. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall etc. All of the stuff the FE cultists accept as factual is part of Christianity as written in his "Earth Not a Globe". OK? Then
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carpenter_(flat_Earth_theorist)
This was followed up by the publication of “Zetetic Cosmogeny" in 1899 by Thomas “Rectangle” Winship, and so on up to today.
Similarly with Islam.
And there is a common thread of biblical literalism which comprises but is not limited to the FE, ID, Creationist and YEC cults.
CZcams managed to get together all village fools. There are many villages around the world.
To all the flat earther take a boat and go at the end part of the earth and take a picture
Why don't you actually do some research yourself instead of regurgitating what you have been told. But then again, you probably believe in spontaneous generation, life started by accident billions of years ago...
@@martyhester811 LOL. Why do you regurgitate the lies of religion? There is the true CONSPIRACY - Religion and the God Hoax, perpetrated by child raping priests and lying stealing preachers who do nothing but beg for your money.
We can't because the government is protecting the Artic Circle so we can't go to the edge of the earth. Do some research bud before you tell people to do something.
@@jerryfarrow7972 then go to the edge and show the fucking goverment stopping you.
"Two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity"
Albert Einstein
He absolutely crushes flat Earth. In part 2 he picks the flat Earth's dead carcass off of the ground and beats the shit out of it some more.
Dirk ya to a first grader he might..
Dirk WHEN?
Even after 6 years, it's still fun to go back and read the ignorant comments of people who clearly didn't watch the video.
Agreed.
Come back every now and again.
Click sort by newest.
Be entertained.
Flat earthers are sure in love with NASA, everything with them is NASA this, NASA that.
NASA is to flat earth, what Spider-Man is to J. Jonah Jameson.
Russian space pioneer Valery Bykovsky dies aged 84@@CaptWesStarwind
@@boffeycn Well that sucks. I guess he beats Gordo of Mercury 9 one more time. I had just been watching the latest space walk when this popped up. I figured Роскосмос would have mentioned something on their channel, but no.
I wonder why not? Seems strange that the lefty, liberal, Jesuit, Illumiati, Jewish, Freemason media reported it. Must be a plot to discredit Knodel and Skiba! @@CaptWesStarwind
Ok airhead, that's enough marijuana for you.
I just have a feeling all flat earthers are just one MASSIVE group of trolls, and they're really good at it!
You may be onto something!
fack you telletuby, don't spoil it
I'm not trying to convince anyone the earth is round ;) I just won't even bother wasting my time. So how is that trolling?
just look chat bro
Oh I wish that was true ,but these fucktards are real! And passionate about there dumb idea's.
In the 80's "I bet we will have flying cars in the future!" 2018, "the earth is flat!" Humanity is going backwards.
2020: "eating dirt and shit is good for you and modern medicine and clean food/water is bad for you"
Flat Earther named P Brain
This is an unintentional joke.
Why are they always confused about the size of earth?
a simple fact ... if you live in New York and the sun is going down , call a friend in california and ask him if the sun is going down to and do the same from california to hawaii ... if this planet was flat the sun would go down for all these place at the same time
gilles Quebec but there gonna say NASA hacked the phone and your friends are in on the conspiracy
Wrong
I have been to Antarctica three times in summer and the sun moves in a big circle in the sky and never sets. It is daytime 24 hours. That cannot happen on a flat earth.
The orange analogy is pretty cool. Thanks, but good luck to me trying to reason with a "flatter".
Assuming the earth even was flat, why would NASA and the scientific community have any need to keep it a secret?
It's the "Satanists" hiding god. The FE cult is Christian cult based on biblical literalism.
The present FE cult in the “west” is basically a Christian cult, plus the usual loony hangers on, based on the biblical claims of the Brit, Sam. “Parallax" Rowbotham made in the mid 19th.C. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall etc. All of the stuff the FE cultists accept as factual is part of Christianity as written in his "Earth Not a Globe". OK? Then
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carpenter_(flat_Earth_theorist)
This was followed up by the publication of “Zetetic Cosmogeny" in 1899 by Thomas “Rectangle” Winship, and so on up to today.
Similarly with Islam.
And there is a common thread of biblical literalism which comprises but is not limited to the FE, ID, Creationist and YEC cults.
Also, I suggest you don;t use NASA but refer to Space Agencies. It really pisses them off because it makes them even less "speshull", as the vast majority are from the USA.
They have to make it look like they are busy, fooling us with they’re cgi and photoshop so they can still get a pay day. Remember the rich doesn’t care about us. Nasa lost all credibility when they photoshopped pictures for the public and used cgi to fool us. Look into it. They’ve been lying and using green screen. They’re basically Hollywood on steroids. But idk if you can handle it.
@@draper5058 Diddums. Bless. You do like parroting crap you were told in YT videos, don't you.
"Look into it." Why don't you?
Feed my sheep. Baaaaa, baaaa.
wong k.
@@draper5058 So why didn't you look into it? Why do you believe the lies being spouted by con-artists?
Flat Earth - Missing Curvature Found ! (Recorded Live Stream 2/23/17)
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Proof of Curvature
First Footage Taken in Space - 1959
czcams.com/video/-O99IH9kbPw/video.html
Fun fact for flat earthers
The Humber bridge towers, although both vertical, are 36 mm (1.4 inches) farther apart at the top than the bottom due to the curvature of the earth.
Curved water. Tears, rain, rivers, waterfalls, steric tides, normal tides, the meniscus, waves and your piss.
Proof of curvature. Sextant corrections, long distance navigation, spherical trig, the fact that land slowly goes below the horizon when you sail away from it and slowly rises from the horizon when you sail towards it, the fact that you can see further with increasing height, celestial navigation and so on.
Nikon P900 debunks flat earth (again)
czcams.com/video/k8zjQt3Tcaw/video.html
Ship horizon.
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Observed proof of rotation. Trade winds, TRS, gyroscopes and gyrocompasses, ocean currents, weather patterns and so on.
If the Earth was flat, You would always be able to see Mount Everest with a good telescope.
blindbrick blindbrick get one and see maybe you could....the ancient civilizations depict it flat as does the bible says we have a dome "firmanent over earth" and why is there never stars in any nasa videos from space?
Zach Calhoun I don’t think you read the Bible and if you did you are taking everything literally? So looking at another woman is considered adultery.
"But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart." (Matthew 5:28)
Actually, the Greeks knew the earth was round 2000 years ago. They were intelligent. And the bible is bullshit. Do you beat your wife too, because it says you can do that if she doesnt do what yoy wanbt her to do, you can also kill your sons if they disobey you...maybe we should follow the bible, seems legit
"why is there never stars in any nasa videos from space?"
Because the exposure is extremely low. Longer exposure makes for brighter objects in the picture. In order for stars to be shown in the background, the exposure would need to be extended greatly, thus turning the Earth into a bright white ball of light in comparison.
Cameras are really annoying to use when trying to take a picture of a bright object in a very dark environment. Test it yourself. On a clear night, when a bright star passes near the Moon, go and take a picture with your camera. Can you take a zoomed in picture of the Moon where its relief is clearly visible AND where you can see the bright star in the background? No, you cannot. To get the bright star in the background, you'll need to increase exposure, thus turning the Moon into (you guessed it) a bright white ball of light with no discernible relief visible.
Shhhhhhhh. Stop using logic, they don't like it
1980... in the future we gonna have flying cars!
2018... guy has to explain that earth is not flat
!
nice
and you wonder why the suicide rate increases year after year....
@@huzzzer6083 that's because NASA makes space shuttles with Reynolds wrap and the shuttle's pod hatch keeps bending in space lol
1980 "in the future we are going to colonize Mars" 2019 "we supposedly can't even get back to the moon because we "destroyed" those technologies"
@@joelbrown5932 lol
Who washes the dome?
Neil
the illuminati
Believing the earth is flat is almost comical. I cant believe their are people that ignorant and gullible still living in modern times.
All thanks to religion.
I hear you. Before CZcams I thought humans were an intelligent species.
@@drosophilamelanogaster3957 Diddums. Bless.
I know how you can prove Earth is flat. It's about perspective. Here's the experiment:
Find some active railroad tracks (they will be shiny on top if they are active). Sit down between the tracks and wait for the train....
..that's it. (WARNING: don't do this experiment unless you are absolutely confident that earth is flat, and have no intention of listening to anything or anyone who says otherwise, even logic)
Side note: the experiment may also be used to prove biblical creation.
You a genious
you're a fucking legend dude haha
Flat-Earthers probably believe that the moon produces its own light
That's what the Bible says!
OH GOD
IT reflects light from the sun just as a mirror does.....go read science books not just bible books
Is this your guess? Because that's literally what they believe.
One guy said it was translucent. Lmao
Wow that explanation about the horizon being 36 miles away then showing the radius of 36 miles in a circle to illustrate how big the earth really is was super genius man. I’ve been trying to figure out a way to explain this for years that the earth is very very very very big.
I’ve been approached by flat earthers and one had a binder full of absurd nonsense. One picture he had showed a tiny earth with a diameter of maybe 4,000 feet with buildings coming out into space like a spiked ball. He asked me does this look plausible to u? And I answered no in real life the earth is almost 8,000 miles in diameter I’m sry ur picture is wrong.
I could never make a solid argument about the size of the planet being so unimaginably huge that it makes ur surroundings appear flat but ur video certainly did an awesome job of it. Thx for the videos n keep em up brotha
One FE asked how a straight airplane could land on a globe - as if the plane were a significant size in comparison to the Earth... also as if runways could not be paved "flat".
What about the thousand year old map of flat Earth found in China has several continents outside of the Continental Antarctica
How many miles does the experiment have to prove the water flat before you believe that the Earth is flat because they've already proved it up to 125 MI
If the earth was flat, than if you were on top of the Everest, with a powerful telescope, you should be able to see every place on it.
Have you heard of water waper, smog, clouds, fog and humidity? You think you are superman?
@Niko no. Learn about perspective.
@Niko are you drunk?
🤪😴Wow
i remember a flat earther sayin the reason u see curve from aeroplane is cos the window is curved then when you answer that they say well ur eyeball is curved and when you answer everything, all you get is .......
"but its in the bible"
Leighton Winter where does it say its flat in the bible? I only find the bible saying its a circle, like Isiah 40:22. You read a Catholic bible? I ask because Catholics don't read bibles, you can tell by their idol worshiping ways. 😀
Minong Maniac
Ok...
"Revelation 7:1
1 And after these things I saw four angels standing on FOUR CORNERS OF THE EARTH, holding the four winds of the earth, that the wind should not blow on the earth, nor on the sea, nor on any tree. (KJV) "
"Job 38:13
13 That it might take hold of the ENDS OF THE EARTH, that the wicked might be shaken out of it? (KJV) "
""He set the earth on its foundations; it can never be moved. (From the NIV Bible, Psalm 104:5)""
""He shakes the earth from its place and makes its pillars tremble. (From the NIV Bible, Job 9:6)""
""Where were you when I laid the earth's foundation? Tell me, if you understand. (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:4)""
""that it might take the earth by the edges and shake the wicked out of it? (From the NIV Bible, Job 38:13)""
""He sits enthroned above the circle of the earth, and its people are like grasshoppers. He stretches out the heavens like a canopy, and spreads them out like a tent to live in. (From the NIV Bible, Isaiah 40:22)""
And this is not all of them, just some examples.
Thing is, you can make any interpretation from bible, so nobody cares what it says.
Minong Maniac
The present FE cult is basically a Christian cult, plus the usual loony hangers on, based on the biblical claims of the Brit, Sam. Rowbotham made in the mid 19th.C. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall etc. All of the stuff the FE cultists accept as factual is part of Christianity as written his "Earth Not a Globe". OK?
This was followed up by the publication of “Zetetic Cosmogeny" in 1899 by Thomas “Rectangle” Winship.
I suggest you read those two books before making a total fool of yourself again.
Those must be some slick windows that start to curve only at the right altitudes.
you don’t see the curve from an airplane though
The comment section suggests there are flath-earthers all around the globe
I am more triggered than i am proud of. The amount of stupidity of these religious buffoons astonishes me
LOL (and I never write "lol")
It's so sad how many people are denying basic facts that anyone with the intellect beyond that of the average first-grader can verify for themselves.
...which just so happens to also reveal the main problem with flerfs.
In todays news a naked man wandered around a shopping mall stealing female underwear. It is understood he was looking for an Ice Wall.
Something else I want to make sure everyone is aware of is that, while the flat earthers claim every image of the earth is 'fake' or 'photoshopped', I have not found any images of the flat earth that look even remotely photographic. It's all CG and hand-drawn images of the proposed flat earth model (many different variations and scales I should add). But my favorites are when they take an image of Earth's curve, claim it was photoshopped to look curved, straighten it, then openly tell how they photoshopped it to show 'the truth' GUYS... You had us under the impression that doctored images were illegitimate.
Me Again, well that settles it thank you for your magnificent logic.
@@stevenlovell3300 Well that settles it, you are a fucking idiot.
wong, you just keep watching your television and get all your education from there that’s all you need.
@@stevenlovell3300 Really? I find that people who say that to me tend to be describing themselves. Come back when you have safely navigated a 300,000 tonnes bulker from Tubarão to Kashima.
wong you are not very good at turning things around and twisting things up to make it fit your paradigm.
It is kind of scary that people believe that the Earth is flat.
Alexander Mumladze why scary..its beautiful. The truth is finally here. Dont be scared of the truth.
Cutty777
"Dont be scared of the truth." So why are you?
Muh holey buybull am der troof broh.
wong hahah your soo wong again lol. Im anything but scared of the truth..I thought the world was round until about a year ago and I was never scared back then haha..I'm glad your looking out for me tho bud
And no I dont read the bible but I have to gain perspective..you should try it ..unless your scared..I've read books about your globe..not scary lol..its called gathering information and cross referencing ..I believe in a source ..if you were curious. But sheesh your somewhat rude aren't you lol
We don't have to prove the earth is round, they have to proove the earth is flat. Simple.
They believe they have with: "it looks flat", "it feels stationary" and a conspiracy theory to discredit and deny evidence.
And "we" did..
Watch some ODDTV
@@renevanderputten2071 Who? ODDTV? It is just the same old FE narrative repackaged. Watch VoysovReason debunk but moreover expose ODDTV for being deceptive. He's a conman.
"Flat Earth in 5 Minutes" Debunked czcams.com/video/VbVmM9ymjxA/video.html
The amount of dislikes on this is frightening
All thanks to biblical literalists.
makes me sick that people still believe it's flat
Cereal For Me
Well research it and reevaluate your reality. It is making me sick that people like you are believing the liars but won't believe them about 9/11 .
YOUR BRAIN DEAD
Glenn parent you're*
It's incredible that we even have to make videos like this.
I know right?!
YOUR BRAIN DEAD
grammar* (Obviously i'm not a flat earther, I just wanted to point out your hypocritical statement).
Flat Earthier shows other celestial bodies as round except the earth, odd.
I was just gonna say
You are a fool
To all flat-Earthers: why do you believe what you do? This is a genuine question.
Muy holey buybull am der troof. Goddidit.
Evidence. Evidence that nasa has been lying to us. Using green screen and cgi and photoshop to fool the masses so we can keep feeding into it so they’ll get a fat paycheck. Investigate nasa cgi and photoshop. You’ll be surprised.
@@draper5058 Diddums. Bless. You do like parroting crap you were told in YT videos, don't you.
"Look into it." Why don't you?
You are aware there are sources other than YT, aren't you.
You are aware there are sources other than NASA, aren't you.
You are aware there are photographs which pre-date photoshop and cgi, aren't you.
"Investigate nasa cgi and photoshop. You’ll be surprised." Why should I be surprised? I knew the shape of the Earth long before I even heard of NASA, as did billions of other people.
Feed my sheep. Baaaaa, baaaa.
Because the Bible says so
@@Wise__guy The bible also tells one to rape, murder, own slaves, commit genocide and infanticide be racist and misogynistic and to hate. What a dilemma for the poor things. Presumably they'll cherry pick as usual.
Feed my sheep. Baaaaa. baaaa.
"why don't we have any images of round earth then?"
*shows picture of round earth
"IT'S CGI!"
www.theguardian.com/science/video/2012/nov/29/earth-international-space-station-timelapse-video
+SaltNPepperish LOL FLATTARD bullshit EXCUSE
SaltNPepperish What debate?
SaltNPepperish There is no debate going on here, Sherlock. You made an idiotic and baseless assertion and I laughed at you for it.
SaltNPepperish So be it then, all I have is Ad Hominem. Meanwhile, you still have to demonstrate how you have anything at all, loser.
If the earth is flat why are all other planets spherical.
Ice wall argument: the earth is so old and so is humanity so how is it that no body ever got on the edge and then came home telling people about it. Because the earth isn’t flat. I feel like flat earthers never ventured out of their home towns.
Curvature: the higher you are the more you can see the shorter you are the less you can see:
I guess the idiots mean "pizza flat". But if the earth is flat, why can't flat-earthers show everyone the point where we fall off?
even the ancients knew that the earth was a ball... because of the sun and moon. but to them it looked like the sun orbited to earth.
Untrue The Olmecs ,Toltecs ,Egyptians Norse ,Celtics ,Hebrews ,
Aethiopians , Maya ,Aboriginals ,Aztecs, Vikings, The Hindu's ,Buddhists ,and quite a few more I cant recall off the top of my head ,all knew the earth was a plane ,no roundness and in fact it's only N.A.S.A. who thinks the earth is a globe.lol
Also ,the bible says the earth is motionless.
Pythagoras is somewhere rolling his eyes at the fact that we need to explain this to grown men.
He didn't have the dubious pleasure of meeting biblical literalists.
There are children rolling their eyes too.
@@romithromith Did you read @Michael Mace's post about our comments 3 weeks ago?
@@boffeycn I don't remember reading them.
@@boffeycn Over at Curvature Captured By Drone see the comment by PrognatusSeptem.
Can we send a shuttle into space with just flat-earthers on board with no return date just so they can languish in their defeat? NASA!!!
Julien Vidal 😂😂😂. I can imagine them sitting in the shuttle, weightless in space, arms folded and saying," Nope! This isn't space. It's clearly an elaborate simulation induced by some form of hypnotherapy. Space would be flatter than this."
I live near Grand Mere State Park, the park in the video, and I can confirm (I hike there often) that Chicago is almost never visible, with the rare exception when the buildings are clearly stretched by atmospheric refraction. But that's not as convincing as traveling around the base of the lake, where the Chicago skyline IS always visible. If you have a spotting scope, you can look in detail at the skyline and notice what is visible and what isn't. If you pick various cities, further from and closer to Chicago and view the skyline, at lake level, from all of them, you'll notice that more and more of the skyline appears (the bottoms of the taller buildings, and shorter buildings) as you travel closer to the city. And this isn't just small changes. From Michigan City, Indiana to Gary, Indiana, the change in what is visible is massive, around 500 additional feet at the bottom of the skyline is visible from Gary. You can also experience the difference in visibility by climbing the dunes. Much more of the skyline is visible from the top of dunes, hundreds of feet up, than from lake level, which only makes sense in a curved earth model.
samthelima, better call the ancient Egyptians and tell them not to use the water level to build their pyramids, because in a few thousand years a theory will prove water indeed lies. Oh, and don't forget to call the builders of the sun and moon dials in Konark India, because even tho they're still accurate to this day, they won't be once they read the theories of how it's not possible that they could be accurate enough in the future to build into the side of a temple. You might also want to go back and tell those building astrological sites to mark the solstice, that will be a waste of time once they read the theories, that the Earth isn't stationary, but spinning and wobbling and circling the sun, the milky way and traveling through the universe at 1.3 million mph. Oh, and lets not forget God. You better let him know that he should go back and edit all his references to the Earth being stationary and flat. I'm sure He'll appreciate the heads up from one of his sheeple.
What silly comments. The Great Pyramid is what, about 100 feet on a side? If so, over that distance the curvature is only a small fraction of an inch. Plus, divide that curvature in half if you use the center of the side as your reference point.
In any case, it does not matter, since water levels work fine on a globe shaped Earth.
Thanks very much for sharing your first hand experience, rather than re-posting videos and photos that are biased (e.g. the distorted mirage) and only prove the point that the poster wants to prove. It would be really good if you could post up links to photo's (taken on your hikes) from different points around the lake (especially from the mirage vantage point - but on a "normal" day, to show that the skyline is not visible). In my opinion the best way to prove curvature would be to take a highly zoomed (to avoid the claims about perspective) video from a boat starting from a shoreline point where the city skyline is not visible and travel directly towards the city across the lake, seeing the skyline start to appear from below the horizon. But I suppose even that would not prove it if you are so ideologically opposed to the idea that the Earth is spherical.
I have individual photos of the skyline from Michigan City, Beverly Shores, Gary, etc. but I haven't taken the time to compile them into anything as nice as this: yumyummatt.wordpress.com/2014/06/13/chicago-as-seen-from-around-south-lake-michigan/
Here, for instance, is a photo I shot at Beverly Shores (note that the entire wall of Michigan Ave. buildings between One Museum Park and the Sears (Willis) Tower is not visible, despite being several hundred feet tall in places): photos.app.goo.gl/9sVED77J7u66f11dA
I got 1 second into this video and I am convinced the earth is not flat
Wow... so come back after your research a bit.
10:46
Where is that footage from? It has an oddly dreamy quality to it!
Why did ships have a Crows Nest? It allowed them to see further from the ship, because the Earth is a fucking sphere!
But you wouldn't need to on a flat earth... You could see L.A. from Brisbane on a flat earth... I can see stars right down to the horizon, why can't I see the lights of Tokyo, or even fucking Auckland, from the East Coast of Australia? The Earth is round, not flat.
Came here to see the spinning globe earth's real footage but i only witnessed cgi bullshit, lol.. I'm disappointed!
Nice try!
How to tell CGI from non-CGI? Because even the non-CGI videos are claimed to be CGI.
Thats funny , i went to a few hundred flat earthier videos to see a flat plain floating in nothingness with water surrounding it, turns out even flat earthers admit that they can't show that.
Is there even any real people in here?!? Users that has real names and avatars? Seems like there are only sockpuppets hanging out in here.. oh yeah that's right! it's a troll channel trolling the Flat-Earthers. Goodluck! :)))
***** Just millennials showing us that the educational system has been failing.
***** Don't forget the Apollo 13, A Space Odyssey and Star Trek ;)
Next up. Proof that fire is hot.....
I can see air and wind 😂
Fantastic video, simple and clear explanations. Sadly it’s not simple enough for some people!
Some day, the flat earthers will invent the wheel.
LMAO XD
People from all around the globe 🌍 are coming together to prove the Earth is flat 🙄. Go figure that one out! 🤔
Sarcasm is hard to put in a made up equation right?!
If the ships can be observed going beyond the curvature at sea shore then there must be a great amount of curvature visible from a passenger plane at an altitude of 50,000 - 60,000 feet.
The curvature is easily visible, sitting in a boat out on the ocean the horizon is 3 miles away in every direction, which is the exact definition of a circle. That is a large curve around the boat, the earth is very big, how big a curve would you expect to see.
Look at all these comments in the last day, the video was made over two years ago...its flat people
Prove it with something other than an argument from ignorance or rhetoric.
Can you without NASA or CGI...
@@bunnyscott1025 yes you can prove the shape of the earth with two bloody sticks and grade school geometry. If you don't understand that, well you can guess what you need to start researching.
The earth is a triangle with an eye in the middle
Luis Arce Yes!
the sun doesnt change size in the sky... it dips below the horizon until the ground blocks its light... the other half of the world then sees the sun... the earth is spherical...
What grinds my gears in this day in age some people think the earth is flat... stop it i say
my brain is rotting away from this comment section
This is the best flat earth debunk video I have seen.
People who think the Earth is flat may or may not be stupid, but they certainly aren't anywhere near as stupid as the people who get offended by them.
well said Jay Pee
Very good video bud. You covered all the points.
Something people, who believe in a flat earth, could do is show examples of what a round earth would look like that is different from what we are seeing in reality. In others words, if what we can observe in reality is the flat earth model they say it is, show us art renderings of the globe model and what that would appear to look like if it were real since they seem to think it would be different that what we see with our own eyes.
Flat earthers: Show me some real evidence of a round earth
Round earther: *provides real evidence of a round earth*
Flat earthers: Just more fake proppaganda
Feeling great m8, still waiting for those photos ;)
So where's the visual evidence that the earth is flat..plenty of round earth, but don't seem to find any showing flat earth..surely you must have some..
you're mad..21.5 miles up and the earth around 24,901.55 miles? you're claiming that from that height, what you can see in front of you is the whole of the planet? that's the end as far as the eye (camera) can see? It's not even a full image of earth.. so that really doesn't prove anything..looks pretty much like earth goes much further over the horizon.."over" being the operative word..still, not a single sole has produced an image or video of the whole flat earth..why is that i wonder?
So globetards don't have a real image of earth?.. no problem, I take it you can provide an authentic image of flat earth? Didn't think so. So why is that? You're so hell bent on trying to convince others to believe in something that you can't even prove yourself? wtf is all that about? It really is simple fuck head..flat earth is a myth, it doesn't exist..if it did, YOU would be able to prove it with visual evidence..not one of you flat earth morons can do that..I await your pathetic excuse as to why you can't..
aaah man..i thought you'd got a full flat earth video or image..nope..just the same old partial planet visuals..funny thing is, every video that shows curvature, it's accused of being shot with fisheye lens..but in your video, although that lens i'm assuming is not used, but still, i see curvature between 4.35 - 4.59..i suppose you're gonna come back with some excuse..this is you're presented proof lol
Reasons the earth is round:
-Gravity is not linear. It comes from the center of the earth.
-None of these people know basic geometry. Study circles and triangles and then tell me that you shouldn't be able to see things over the curve of the earth.
-If the earth is flat, astronomy would be impossible.
-The seasons would also be impossible.
-If the earth was flat, you should be able to see forever. Can you see forever? No, the fuck you can't.
-If the earth is flat, shouldn't the other planets be flat? If they are, why does the moon have different phases and three different "pictures" as it rotates? (Look them up, there's a beetle, a lady reading a book, and I think a rabbit)
-Saturn's rings??
-Uranus is on its side??
-Astroid belt??
-Meteors and comets?? Do they fling around like a frisbee??
-Pluto is definitely a planet fight me on this
-The bottom of certain clouds are flat because they can't go below certain altitudes and you can see them go over the curved horizon.
-You can see that the earth is curved from an airplane. I've seen it. It looks like a giant sphere.
-Why is Antarctica so cold and the equator is hot? How does that work?
-Speaking of the equator, how does THAT work?
-If you look at a flat-earth map, it would take much longer to travel around the earth at the edge of Antarctica than it should around the North Pole in the same pattern. But it takes the same amount of time in reality. ROUND EARTH CONFIRMED??
A FEW EDITS IF YOU'RE STILL A MORON
-If the Earth was flat we'd all have the same timezone (thank you for pointing that out, MLG420blazeit)
-If the earth were flat, every continent would be on the same side facing the sun and it would be daytime all across the world. (Thank you, Anthony Long)
-These people seem to think that the Earth is either a shit ton larger or smaller than it really is, saying that they can't see the curve (it's fucking huge you asshat)
-Is the sun flat?? I think the fuck not
-How do the tides work??
-By the way, that emergency landing in Alaska? Probably because flight patterns are fucking complicated as shit. You have to account for available space at an airport, other planes taking off, landing, and their flight paths, weather, the list goes on for days.
-How does a compass work?
-If the Earth is flat, why do we have mountains?
-What's on the other side of the disc?
-Tectonic plates and earthquakes exist??
-How thick is the Earth if it IS flat? And don't bullshit me, the ocean is crazy deep, that's a scientific fact. Oh, wait. You don't believe in science. Right.
All of these can be "answered" with one or several of the following:
- perspective!
- atmospheric refraction!
- fake!
- I still have to work that out (translation: You got me and I have no clue but I will never accept defeat even though I will never find an intelligent answer to that)
- Yeah, that's what THEY want yout to believe!
- SHUT UP YOU BRAINWASHED SHEEP ALWAYS BELIEVING WHAT NASA TELLS YOU HAHAHA STUPID GLOBETARD AT LEAST I'M OPEN-MINDED!!!
Psy Fi You forgot:
-The quantum electrodynamic levitating sacred 7 eyed firmament fluctuations.
-Mer huly buuk!!!
- *Insert Nikola Tesla quote here.*
- And, of course, czcams.com/video/dQw4w9WgXcQ/video.html
For a split second i tought that a flatbrained knob answered so that i can get a good convo going and put some flour in to his mouth :D Thanks for the answer, you made my evening XDD :D
Hahahaa! Exactly!
The last one ... is this a reference to this? czcams.com/video/Yor4TAGRLyY/video.html
Psy Fi their most accurate response 😂
This like to dislike ratio is very concerning
Indicative of the education system in this country. When we are teaching kids how to be gender fluid against the laws of science, is believing in a flat earth so surprising?
Flat earthers: earth is flat
Earth: am I a joke to you
Wow, so many butthurt flat earthers in the comments. Logic and science, the flat earther’s worst enemies.
Anthony DelPlato round earthers are butthurt bc they suffer from cognitive dissonance.
Arguing to flat-earthers is no different than punching yourself in the face. It just hurts your head and accomplishes nothing. You can't fix stupid so why try?
To stop others from falling for that nonsense.
Damien Mullins
That's very true. Maybe its because you have an uphill struggle against the tide. Also, if you don't have any empirical evidence on your side, it makes it even worse. I would stick to punching your self in the face. While you're at it, give yourself a big bunch of fives from me :D
bob question Uphill struggle against the tide of flat earthers? Bwhahahahahaa! God you are as smart as a bag of fucking hammers. Its the tide of absolute stupidity. Even worse its willful stupidity.
Damien Mullins
That all depends on the shape of the "Earth". What you are forgetting is most flat "Earthers" started where you are. Then, when they try to debunk it, they soon realise that it is the truth. It is easily measurable. How the Fork were we ever fooled into thinking it was a spinning ball? You are on the precipice of a major discovery, You've liked the coating of the red pill, now it's only a matter of time. Bon Appetit!
but you constantly do
Can someone just video record the world without using fisheye camera and show us.
Been done thousands of times the problem is that people like you just think they're all "fake" or "fisheye" or "CGI". The problem isn't a lack of evidence, the problem is your refusal to accept any evidence that proves you wrong.
czcams.com/video/j_wdRMT07Xw/video.html
VoysovReason Prove its not cgi
Oliver Sundström - This is just one example of thousands. It is insane to think that such a massive conspiracy involving hundreds of thousands of people in dozens of countries could have survived for 70 years without any credible evidence of it being a fraud, or any credible whistle-blowers.
Flat Earth Falsities - Photo Fakery Challenge
czcams.com/video/t5wm9l5trlA/video.html
@@oliversundstrom1806 He does not bear the burden of proof, you do. You are the one making the claim that it is CGI, so you are the one that needs to prove it is CGI. The responsibility is yours. But even more importantly, in the beginning of this video he made is clear that he is not using pictures from space as evidence. He is only using observations and experiments that you personally can conduct to prove the shape of the planet. So your claims of "CGI" are meaningless. He specifically does not use pictures as evidence because he knows that people like you will simply ignore them and pretend they are CGI even though you make absolutely no attempt to prove your claims.
Idk why I'm watching this. I'm not even a flat earther.
it saddens me that this video even had to be made...
The question isn't about the shape of the earth at all really.
It's about psychology, it's about how sometimes people like to be part of some group (there's strength in numbers) with an extreme view which allows them to feel like they can make a difference without putting much effort in. (This comes from an evolutionary need to be part of a group for safety) Then they may feel like they know something someone else doesn't which gives them a power of confidence over everyone who isn't "in the know." It's like a war between those that act on rational answers and those that act on emotional ones put very simply.
When the rational becomes too complicated to explain to someone, (brexit economy prediction or mass migration of people) they may turn to their emotional response. (eg government lying, immigrants taking our jobs, global warming is faked or evolution is "just a theory")
To help someone believe otherwise we must either combat it with an equally emotional response from the opposite perspective, ( feels too much like manipulation to me) or talk to them in person and try to figure out WHY they feel this way without just throwing evidence at them. Because as logical and rational as it may be, they will not listen to it.
Shouting and restoring to foul names won't achieve anything from either side.
I think this effect explains brexit, trump, flat earthers, and many conspiracy theories.
There are hundreds of videos out there explaining the evidence for or against many things but many the videos we should be watching are those that explain what we know about the human mind and why an educated, healthy individual with a higher than average IQ may ignore their own rationality.
The present FE cult is basically a Christian cult, plus the usual loony hangers on, based on the biblical claims of the Brit, Sam. Rowbotham made in the mid 19th.C. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall etc. All of the stuff the FE cultists accept as factual is part of Christianity.
Not forgetting Thomas “Rectangle” Winship and his “Zetetic Cosmogeny" which followed Sam's book.
I'm keeping it simple. Counting on my own observations and experiences. Always best. Why count on 2nd and 3rd party testimonials that can't be repeated in a lab. Just my opinion. Not sure why folks get so pissed at ppl for what they think and yet has 0 influence on their own personal journey. Oh well. Have a good day.
Except 100's of observations show we can see far beyond sphere earth limitations, whilst there are zero verifiable earth curve measurements.
Flat Earthers. What makes you think you can detect a 8" per mile convex outline of a curved surface of the horizon in the real world when you can't even detect the curved line of a circle zoom in at great magnification on a CAD drawing? Ya'll have no concept that things seen at large scales (in real life or zoom in on a screen) flatten out. To a flea on a large beach ball, it would think it's on a flat sheet of plastic.
But, but Muy Holey Buybull!
Its amazing the time and energy we still put in this matter.
I think this flat earth thing is a cospiracy to take attention from other real problems and from spending time in learning new things.
VoysovReason, you made a good polite educational video. and you've done it well.
My advice is to select a line of issues that are more relevant, and have more effect on peoples lives.
Flat earth feeds itself on the repercussion of its nonsense.
Let's try to ignore them for a while and see if it shuts them out.
Good Luck
@Witch House not answering or discussing with you...
You mean your brain waves. What is the bearing of Polaris from where you live?@Witch House
Ignore them and they'll go away is the ostrich approach. The approach that resulted in WWII
The present FE cult in the “west” is basically a Christian cult, plus the usual loony hangers on, based on the biblical claims of the Brit, Sam. “Parallax" Rowbotham made in the mid 19th.C. He is the one who dreamt up the ice wall etc. All of the stuff the FE cultists accept as factual is part of Christianity as written in his "Earth Not a Globe". OK? Then
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Carpenter_(flat_Earth_theorist)
This was followed up by the publication of “Zetetic Cosmogeny" in 1899 by Thomas “Rectangle” Winship, and so on up to today.
Similarly with Islam.
And there is a common thread of biblical literalism which comprises but is not limited to the FE, ID, Creationist and YEC cults.@@claudiomaiasantos
There is less than 2% of americans that believe earth is flat. And outside of america the percentage is vanishingly small.
Its not a big problem.
No, the %age is much, much higher, especially when you include the 'don't knows". Also the numbers are increasing all the time. This is due (in the USA) to the dumbing down of education at primary and secondary levels and the promotion of religious beliefs, which the FE cult primarily is. This has been done by the Rep/ Party which has effectively controlled primary and secondary education for a few decades.
The Rep. Party is the home of the FE, ID, Creationist and YEC cults, et al. It is also the home of the lying deniers of the fact of AGW/ACC.
I have just received this comment "It’s time for people to understand that government USA bunch of lying devils. Trust God and Trump in that order. God is using President Trump to expose the truth about these lying devils like God used Noah, Moses and Abraham."
The ethos of the right is against science and pro biblical literalism.
The right is teaching ID, Creationism and YEC as real science and denouncing evolution etc. in many public schools and even more private ones, and have a policy that this should be mandatory in all schools.
So yes, there are some sensible right wingers, until push comes to shove. YEC Pence ring a bell? Does it?
fyi I am not from the USA but have lived and worked there, so I am not tainted by but am saddened by it's disgusting politicisation of science. By the right wing, of course.
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Lol... 7000 people are 600 years behind the curve!
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thank god a man with some intelligence, it's refreshing. 2017 and people still thinking the earth is flat, our education system is failing so many people.
thank God. you mis-spelled 'indoctrination' system though.
yeah because he believes in what you can test and see with your own eyes, and you believe in a massive conspiracy that goes back thousands of years, even ship builders used to build large mastheads for people to stand on so they could see ship over the horizon just to keep up the pretence, every country that has a space agency all in it together, every single company that has telecommunication satellites all in on the conspiracy and all this secrecy is because ???? to pretend the bible is wrong, its a great business plan -
1, pretend earth is flat
2. ??????????????
3. profit.
It’s sad that in 2018 saying “the world is round” is enough to start a flame war.
Because it is a geoid not a round.
WEED Clan Darell and I suppose you never watched this video? If the world were flat earthquakes would be impossible!!! The underground pressure that causes earthquakes builds up hundreds of miles below the surface. Plus if they somehow did happen on flattardia the smallest earthquake in recorded history would be able to destroy all of Ohio. Flat object are always more hollow than round
Look up what a geoid is dude, then comment again.
WEED Clan Darell you made it sound like “geoid” meant flat. A geoid can be round.
Also I am sorry but I’ve heard flattards refer to their model as “geocentric”
Dylan Kaiser lol, im having fun watching flat earth videos, idk why people like this even exist in 2018.
The front view from the ISS that shows the canada space arm grab , lock and dock the shuttle is so cool i just love this view eh ... i watch it in every ISS shuttle delivery . Wow oh wow .......
0:00 Flat Earthers triggered.
.. It's mind blowing that such video needs to be posted in 2016. Good job none the less :)
Why do people resort to insults and personal attacks. It just makes them sound ignorant. Just go out and do some experiments and educate yourselves.
Your point being? That you are an idiot?
Thanks for agreeing that you are an idiot.
@cH Pinki Not really, if you understand English.
"prooving"? A few centuries out of date there, but a common misspelling in Septicland.
6:28 That only proves that the Ships are falling down from the Flat Earth 😂 😂 😂
Here are some more for you.
1. The further you got from the middle of the sun the shorter the daytime hours would be. This isn't a problem on a globe Earth. It just means that it's colder towards the poles. It's a big problem on a flat Earth and it would mean that there would be isolated areas of great heat that had nothing to do with The Equator;
2. The Sun would have to move faster in the Southern Summer and slower in the Northern Summer because it would have much further to travel in the Southern Summer. Why would it do this? This would also have the effect of making it much colder in The South with far fewer daytime hours;
3. In order for the same number of daytime hours to occur in The South The Sun would have to be either much larger or much higher in the sky. If it were much higher it would have to be much hotter or it would be very cold all the time in The South. If this is the case, fine but it still doesn't explain away the problems of a curved sun that I addressed clearly in point 1 and, again, why would it do this? It doesn't make any sense;
4. There would never be a Winter in The North. There would almost always be 24 hours of daytime in The North Pole and there would never be any more than 12 hours of daytime in The South Pole. In fact, there would almost always be fewer than that;
5. The North Pole would be the hottest place on Earth. It would effectively be The Equator;
6. The sun has clearly been observed 'dancing around in the sky' as it does in The North in New Zealand and Southern Argentina and Chile. This would never happen with the current flat Earth model.
There are also problems with some of the arguments used In almost every flat Earth video that I've ever seen. Here are some of them.
1. Someone always talks about water finding its level and that we never observe water clinging to a ball on a much smaller scale so why do we believe that it does this on a globe Earth? Does none of them know how gravity works? Water, along with everything else, only finds its level because of gravity. Gravity causes it to stick to a globe Earth because of its enormous mass;
2. Another argument is long rivers having to flow upstream. Rivers would not be flowing up and down stream anymore than we would be walking up and down a hill every time we went anywhere on a globe Earth. Come on. We know that we don't have to climb over the curvature of The Earth. What would we be climbing over? Gravity certainly wouldn't have anything to do with it. Why should rivers be any different? The aren't;
3. Aeroplanes would not have to make constant adjustments to their altitude because their instruments use gravity to keep them on a constant path;
4. Aeroplanes do not have to travel a far greater distance West to East than they do East to West because they are travelling within The Earth's atmosphere, which means that everything on The Planet is relative, whether it's spinning or not. The fact that they are in the air makes no difference;
5. Aeroplanes to not have to fight against the movement of The Earth when travelling from West to East because everything within The Earth's atmosphere is stable. It would only have do this if the Earth's rotation were accelerating. Is it any harder to walk in the same direction as a train when you are on it when it's travelling at a constant speed and completely enclosed. No. I have no problem walking in either direction on an ICE travelling at 230mph;
6. The horizon is flat! Because The Earth is a perfect sphere, we are always in the centre of the circle. Think about it. If the horizon were curved, it would never meet itself all the way around and we can all go to the top of a mountain and observe that we can see the horizon all around us and no-one has ever seen a point at which the horizon meets imperfectly;
7. Christopher Columbus would not have accidentally found that The Earth was spherical on a flat Earth in the way that flat Earthers claim that he could have done because The Earth is flat and round. He would have had to be constantly changing his compass to be going around The Earth and this would have had to have been very deliberate. He would have always ended up at The South Pole on the current flat Earth model.
You talk some amount of piss for the one person
It's really scary to see that this video gets more than 7.000 thumbs down.
7.000 Flat-Earth believers in denial who can't cope with the hurt of cognitive dissonance?
Manu Forster Well if you want people to listen you can't start off by saying that a circle or an orange had a flat side. When??? That would be a square, I thought.
HAHAHAHAH earth rotation time lapse from Gaileo probe is CGI and not real.
+LolKid
Prove it.
Uhm u blind?
Just saying I'm wrong doesn't make me wrong. Prove it.
Your orange slice analogy is nice. A sliced portion looks flat. And whatever u see therefore looks flat. Which really makes more sense to be flat as well as everything else as observable