Product Spotlight: Cloud Defensive Light Control System
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- čas přidán 9. 07. 2024
- Forget about rubber bands, zip ties, wire, Velcro® straps, shoelaces, or gaffer tape! The Light Control System (LCS) by Cloud Defensive helps you securely mount a weapon light remote pressure switch, and Brownells Gun Tech™ Caleb Savant shows us how to install it. In a previous Quick Tip ("How To 'Dress' a Weapon Light Remote Switch Cord"), Caleb showed us how to cinch down a remote switch's cable to keep it out of the way. But Cloud Defensive offers an even tidier, simpler, more elegant solution. The LCS consists of a mounting plate that is model-specific to a particular remote pressure switch. Caleb is mounting the LCS for the Streamlight ProTac switch; Cloud also offers a plate for the Surefire ST-07 switch. Separate side plates lock the mounting plate to the handguard rail. Why don't they come already attached to the main plate? Caleb explains. The side plates include cable "management" channels and holes for mounting screws. The holes in one plate are threaded, so it's easy to install the screws, with no wrangling of separate nuts or locking bars. The result is a very clean, streamlined switch assembly with NO protrusions to get in your way or gouge your hand.
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I have 2 for my Streamlights and they are simple, yet great pieces. Sometimes the best parts are the ones you never have to think about.
Gotta love the AT4 in the safe lol
Great review! I honestly love these mounts. Outside of buying a dedicated Unity Tactical/Modlite switch, it's my go-to method for mounting tape switches.
Well Caleb, you made that look super easy, I just installed mine and even though it took almost an hour and made me want to end my life a few times I finally got it. I don't have a workbench so trying to hold the rifle and fool with two pieces + screw something in was getting me heated hahaha. Now that it's on I'm super happy with it. looks and feels amazing....now I'm gonna go larp.
Same here man. But getting mods in without a gun bench is satisfying lol
I ended up taking heavy books and a few cut down 2x4s to try and steady the rifle as best possible so I atleast had some kind of steady platform. I too tried doing it without any support and thought about ending my life as well lmao! Congratulations on getting it without support. I gave up trying to do it that way because I was going to chuck my entire rifle if it didn't take a break to settle down.
Did you get the aluminum, or the polymer? I got the polymer and the tolerances are probably not the same as the aluminum, because I also struggled for an hour and actually could not get it to attach to my 1913 rail.
@@franklong3402 I got the aluminum one, I didn't know they made a polymer version as well. Regardless, I imagine either one is going to be a pain to attach without your weapon properly held in place.
I was just looking into these, great timing for a video!
Very helpful video Caleb and definitely explains the installation very clearly as your other videos! Thanks for sharing.
Good job man, been wanting one for my streamline setup 👍
Excellent video as usual Caleb. I have the same setup only left handed on an 18" barrel and a 15" handguard. The length allows me to use a C-Clamp grip by moving the tape switch back on the rail. I run the on/off button towards the back as you do. The wire is not taut but it's a pretty straight shot to the Streamlight.
The design makes it pretty tricky to keep all the tape switch components aligned, switch, frame, sides, wire & screws. When I tore everything down to cerakote the barrel & handguard I discovered that the screws on the pressure switch are long enough to keep the switch assembly together when backed-off enough to remove it from the rail. Same goes for putting it back together. Slide one side back onto the picattiny rail and the switch will drop into place when aligned to the slots. Tighten it up and you're done. Never had to mess with the wire when removing or replacing the switch.
I have one it works wonders love it, no measuring needed
Cloud Defensive makes cable management easy. Their Rein 3.0 has the same principle system integrated into the light design and it's excellent.
I've been running Streamlights with the Arisaka adapters for the Surefire pads. The Cloud Defense LCS works great with these. Very low profile and rugged.
Outstanding video. Been looking for an option like this for some time. Thank you
Love your videos
Surefire 640df on swivel mount, with switch mounted in C.D. Mount 🤩
Beats the rest
I like how in the whole video Caleb says Cloud Defense and not Cloud Defensive.
Good Video.
I have one. Had it for years. No real parasitic draining of the battery. The only problem I have is that the rubber around the cord has been eroding way and it spent most of its time living in my safe. Other than tat, its a good light system.
Touch it up with sum Plasti dip or sum flex seal brotha!
Good stuff
I mean wow what a product!
THANKS
These are amazing. Pair them with Arson Machine wire guide system. Talk about CLEAN cable management.
Has anyone else had an issue getting theirs to fit? I got mine for a Streamlight Protac Rail Mount 2. The threaded side plate can't quite reach all the way around the top and bottom, so the top is just pinched against it instead of hooking under it. Thought it would pull together better, but no matter how much I try, it's like it's not machined wide enough. I'm using a Magpul 7 slot aluminum rail piece. It's grabbing good enough I guess.
Always helpful videos and Ive had difficulty trying to mount these on the side with an M-lock as it seems the screws need to be about 1/32" or 4 threads longer. Great system otherwise.
Very interesting...Given the debate on the switches (to use or not to use) is almost as big as other yes or no debates with the AR15.
Might gave to get one...msrp?.
Yo is that a rocket launcher in yo safe? Gosh dang! 😂
"...there's no rocket surgery here." HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!
The screws for mine are too short. I read a lot of other people saying the same on the Amazon reviews.
I'm interested in getting a combination light/green laser. Are there any remote control systems that will actually switch between the different functions of the unit, such as light only, light and laser, laser only, rather than just "always on", "momentary", or strobe in some cases?
Would’ve been nice if you left a link in description!!
what was the finish on this mount. was it a smooth feeling. I just got one today and it was a rough gritty finish. not what I expected the finish to feel like
Great product. Your example though doesn’t really show how impressive the system is because your mounting choice. I have a SF pad mounted and take advantage of more the internal routing. It’s can really be a tight and squared away system with virtual extra cable
I run the cloud defense ST07 switch mount on all my rifles
Would this work on a weaver rail ?
How to do it with a forward grip?
@caleb savant what mount are you using for the light it’s self? I have the Streamlight that came with the pic mount but I like this better.
The BCM Mlok mount for a Surefire, it works well with the Streamlight.
I just purchased this product 2 days ago ,it is great product although I mount my pressure switch on the side . My question is what mount do you have your Streamlight mounted on ?
This one is on a BCM Mlok mount but I have also had great success with the Midwest Industries mount as well. (The mount is listed as a Surefire mount but works well with the Streamlight ProTac)
@@CalebSavant Thank you for the information Caleb !!!
Thank you once again for the product video. As mentioned before; please provide a direct link to your companies web page regarding items demonstrated in these videos, at least for me, (a multiple repeat customer, for years) this would make for “ease of ordering” in one easy step. As to customers in general, I believe this small feature/addition would help generate sales as I know that I will be doing something else and end up moving on from the video and then NOT coming back to it to order the item in question. Your IT/IS department should be able to accomplish this in a short period of time. Thanks again for the information, and now onto the copying and pasting of this item and then opening a website (yours or maybe not if it’s not easier for me) and ordering this item. Thank you for your time, again relating to this request/suggestion.
We cannot link to the webpage without compromising our account, CZcams does not allow it since we are a firearm company.
@@CalebSavant Thank you sir, I seem to remember hearing that oh so nice rule on free speech now, from a “publisher”. Thanks for the information and PLEASE keep the information coming, I truly enjoy ALL of the videos you put out.
What Mount are you using for your streamlight? I’m currently using an arisaka mount but it doesn’t seem that sturdy.
This one is using the BCM but I also use the Midwest Industries.
WHAT SIZE TORX BIT
I love my cousin defense switch mount. Allows the switch wire to tuck inside of the mount reducing snag potential
Has anyone ever tried running their light cables on the inside of their handguard? Not touching the barrel or gas tube, but zip tied to the inside of your handguard. Feed it through the mlok (or whatever type of slot), zip tie it down, and then feed the cable back out a slot further down the rail out to the light. ?
I suppose if you had a super low profile rail it would be too close to the barrel and gas tube.
Why is mine wiggling? Did I do something wrong? It has a good amount of play. I bought it off eBay used.
Your last sentence may have answered your question.
The one I bought the screws are too short and cloud defensive has terrible customer service. I’ve emailed them twice and when I called the machine said the best and fastest way to get in touch with them is to email them . Then it hung up on me.
I have this same mount, had no idea there was places on it for feeding the wire through.
Seems to be a lot of negative commenfs for some reason. I bought a streamlight because I was afraid of breaking or losing my issued surefire and didnt want to pay for it. I found that the included rubber tape switch mounts would come off too easy. I went overseas with the LCS a couple of times and have been using it ever since. Two issues with it. 1. It takes some fidgeting to get the side panels properly lined up. 2. Its a pain to remove and re-install every time you have to turn your weapon in or draw from the armory. I love my LCS to death and it is the bees knees. It wont be leaving my (now personal) weapon until I get the TAPS sync
What is “rocket surgery”? 😄
It's the first cousin to "rocket science." 😄
My fde I have to fight to get my switch into lol oh well. Nvr coming out now
These are awesome I have 4. Just don’t get the polymer because the polymer is weak junk and the nut will spin through the polymer and eat through the polymer because the torque values are wrong. Cloud hooked me up with aluminum replacements so they were cool about it, but a heads up don’t buy the polymer version. If you have an ATLAS S-ONE rail that doesn’t have a full picatinny top rail, check out Driven Arms, they made one with Cloud exclusively for the S ONE rail system and it grabs the side ATLAS slots.
Impact Weapons Components has the best light mounts. They’re better than Arisaka.
I see you’re responding to the “you should use the mount’s built in cable routing” comments haha!
Actually no, as you can see from the set, this was filmed back to back with the other video.
@@CalebSavant Ahh yes!
Need Mloc
You kinda messed up the routing. I use the REIN for my illumination needs. You could have routed the wire nearest to you and crossed it trough the picatiny and you would have taken up more slack on the wire.
Horale!
So much dust in the studio....
Love these, I think it's laughable that streamlight gives you zip ties and tape for their switch out of the box.
I like my Cloud Rein lights but those switches are chonky asf
Guy is like 28 but gives off a 70 year old vibes of a grandfather. And hair and clothes style is that of someone born in the 30's/40's.
The bolts are so short, they don't even reach when it's off the rifle.
Caleb where did you go to gunsmithing school?
I am a traditionally trained gunsmith, I apprenticed under several master gunsmiths then decided to get a certification from SDI while bored during the first COVID lockdowns. But I had been gunsmithing for 10+ years professionally before receiving a gunsmith degree.
@@CalebSavant what is that mag well mount- work station called, pretty slick is it homemade?
#DapperDefense
Rocket surgery? Sounds like someone had been watching the Army's resilience videos where the lady says it just like that
Nice mount but for 50 bucks (and to prevent the extra weight) I'll stick with my trusty zip ties. 🤷🏾♂️ Great video as usual! But, as the saying goes... grams=ounces and ounces=pounds.
zipties are great until they get weak from heat and break at the worst time
I've got one of these mounts. I will stick with this mount over zip ties any day of the week. Zip ties are okay, but the simple fact is that they leave a lot to be desired, and like Sean just said, heat can be a considerable issue depending on how they mount. They also can somewhat harm the ergonomics for you.
Also, this mount is made of aluminum. It's added weight, sure, but it's such a minor amount of added weight it hardly matters.
I promise it’s worth it.
With all due respect, a colour bright shirt for background would provide a clearer picture of the item.
Yea, that rocket surgery is difficult.
Or you buy Cloud Defensive’s OWL and avoid all of this cable management nonsense at the outset. 😌
That thing is so damn overpriced.
Overkill
*DO NOT* Buy the Cloud Defensive LCS. It is extremely limited in it’s mounting capability. I have had nothing but issues using this thing. If you plan on using the cable management channels it makes the mount sit too high on the rail causing the screws to not seat correctly. Avoid this product at all costs.
Agreed, the polymer version I got the screws were too short. Super bummed about this product
I look better in that shirt....just saying, give the retail price on stuff
Can Cloud make a mount for the Surefire switch that does momentary and constant that way I can run the regular tail cap!🧠🤯🔫