@@mad0uche quite the opposite if you know anything about how the foot works, arch support flattens your feet, going barefoot does the opposite, please stfu if you don’t know what you’re talking about. Wearing nicks I woke up every morning with a Charlie horse, not anymore.
I just ordered a pair of overlanders in the 1964 tan and I really wish you wouldn’t have wore your personals preferences on your shirt, and paid the same attention to that option as you did the rest of them.
That 1964 leather is amazing. I live in Western Colorado where it’s really dry, with the occasional stream and waterfall. All that oil in the ‘64 is going to help keep my boots from drying out and cracking too early.
These videos have made me feel 200% better about choosing the right boot. I wasn't sure about which type of leather was best for me. You guys have gone above and beyond on youtube to help us newbies to higher end boots understand what we need. I think it would be awesome for you to offer each stain as something we could purchase to hide scuffs and scratches
So many more options since I placed my order a month or so ago. Now I have to ponder my chooses and reconsider. More options are nice and shows business is growing. 💪
I'm getting close to the point of ordering my first pair of Nick's. This really helps me with the leather choice. Pretty sure the 1964 Walnut is what I'd go for. As stated in the video, it will all look similar given some time. I do have a question for anyone that can help with the following: I currently wear Carolina Loggers (composite toe required for work) in 11.5 2E. Does anyone have any experience in how these will line up with Nick's sizing? It's looking like it's recommended I go down a 1/2 size for a snug fit as I have now, but would love to hear from someone that has had these before. It's going to be a HUGE step up in quality, and price, so I'd like to do it right the first time. Edit: I'm looking at going with the Builder Pro.
It's not 1/2 size down from your Carolinas, but a 1/2 size down from your Brannock sizing. Look at their diy sizing guide from their website. Worked perfectly for me.
@@Totemparadox Thank you. I should have mentioned that my Brannock sizing is also an 11.5 when I was measured in the store. When I bought this most recent pair of shoes I also tried on some Thorogoods, but actually took an 11 in them. It was the first time I've ever had a boot that 'small' actually fit. It made me a little unsure about how to proceed with Nick's. I did print out their sizing chart from the website, but I ended up getting different numbers than what I got in the store which confused me even more.
@@Totemparadox About 1/2 size. Barefoot on the printable chart I'm just over an 11 1/2. With socks I'm a solid 12. In the store, with my boot socks, I'm dead on an 11 1/2.
Great video. I have wondered about the toughness of the 1964 leather. The silicon infused is very interesting. Will you be making another video on the heritage leathers?
I would like to know as well since it is silicon based, perhaps one must use a silicon based wax/oil treatment as opposed to bees wax or some other natural sealer
Funny because i was torn between the heritage tanker and the tactical boot. Then i seen they had a tactical tanker and im sold hahah just dont know if i should get 64 black or weathershield black. I live in buffalo where its snowy and icy for 5 months so im leaning weathersheild
I swear, every time I watch this I come out with a new favorite... hahaha Probably gonna go with 1964 walnut or brown... though I also really like the weathershield brown, especially since I do quite a bit of snow hiking... I think I'm gonna end up.with five or six pairs here over the next couple years haha
@@user-vw7qe1cf9x like he says, after you wash and oil them a few times they're all gonna be dark brown to black... I have one of the card wallets in 1964...been in my back pocket daily for 4 months now, it's been thru the wash once, but never been oiled or anything... it's become a dark rust brown... almost like the W&C oiled latigo chestnut on the nicks leather page...
@@toadamine This is super good to know! Thanks so much for adding your experience with the same leather im interested in. The boots are a lot of money so it bears a little research and a few questions. Much appreciated
@@user-vw7qe1cf9x I recommend ordering some leather accessories in the leathers you're considering, then you can get it in your hands and see it in person before pulling the trigger on expensive boots...
I am having a hard time seeing the difference between Easy Break-In and Max-Support. So Easy Break-In would offer less ("Sub-Max"?) support than MaxSupport? Beyond the marketing lingo, I am having a tough time seeing the real reason to keep MaxSupport in the line-up, right? In other words: I appreciate the explanation videos, but please be clear about the trade-offs - because these will be there. I appreciate the tests, but there will be practical consequences: break-in time, durability, water-repellency - these would be the parameters that matter to workers. So any remarks on those parameters would be appreciated. You talk about water and oil absorbance, but we need to know what that would mean to particular jobs. Thank you!!!
My man it's leather. You want easier break in? Buy the 1964 series. Don't over think it. You won't die if you get standard walnut instead of 1964 walnut. It very well might be that Nicks will completely transition to the 1964 since it seems like a superior leather, but that doesn't mean they will.
@@77Matt Not weird at all. Just putting your uppity ass back into its place. And what do you mean by water and oil absorbances impact on jobs? Of you work in a wrt environment, get the leather with most water resistance. Want better oil absorbance? Get a roughout boot .
For those who really put thier boots through abuse the old school leathers adds value. They are often guys who are wearing out a pair of these in a year or so then back in for a rebuild. I think it makes sense to keep a product that targets that regularly returning customer.
What style will the 360 stitch down be available in?¿ My ideal set up would be the traveler, weather shield brown, 360 stich down, on a sierra sole. Comfortable more water resistant and still enough grip in the sole for walking on wet surfaces. Please! Do that. Ill be the lab rat for that
I live in Arizona Desert. I wonder if the Watershield would actually hold up better since the silicon will help keep the oils? or would the 1964 be better since it is infused more? I have a lot of scratchies and sharp rocks where i go hiking/fishing
I still want to know why they don't have the weather shield in rough out it doesn't seem like it matters which side is facing out for the water resistance
The 1964 Tan seems to be an outlier. Not a much finish or conditioning like the other 1964 leathers and seems stiffer. I just ordered a pair oof boots in the tan. I'm wondering if the tan is still considered your ez-break in or more like your max-support leathers. I'm also curious what type of conditioning you'd recommend with that tan leather.
I love the characteristics of the heritage brown waxed flesh. If I ordered a pair of black max rough out can it be waxed down for similar finish in a heavier work boot?
Grant !! What you going to do with the sample that you just did a torcher test on the video ?? can you give them away or sell them ? Just asking they are still good leather to make some thing out of please let us know Thank you !! John
Speaking of tannage, do you only carry oil tanned leathers, or do you also use veg tan? I don't think I ever saw that adressed anywhere... thanks for the informative video!
So I recall previously it had been mentioned the max support will take a shine with some effort. How does the 1964 do taking wax compared to the max support? Will it take wax and shine well, or would it act more like a CXL that doesn't tend to play well with wax?
The back side of it is not very water resistant so it mostly defeats the purpose. I don't know why this is as I don't the technicalities. I only know as I called Nicks to ask the same thing. LOL
I called Nicks and they said they don't offer the weather shield in rough out as it will not have the same weather/water resistance as the smooth. Essentially the rough out weather shield wont keep water out.
I have a pair of builder pros on order with the original Max Support walnut leather. I thought about calling and having them change it to the 1964 walnut for easier breakin. My question is. Whats the difference between the 1964 and the Max support loaded with Hubbard shoe grease? (I use this on all my boots) Thanks
I also wonder how much more water-resistant the weather shield is vs the 1964 one. If it's not much different, and you dont get wet feet all too often, why not go for the easier break in of the 1964,
Whites are no longer a fully American venture. They also use slightly thinner leather. Still a great boot, but as they are about the same price range as Nicks, Ill go with Nicks.
Whats your go-to work leather? Classic MaxSupport, Easy Break-In, or our new WaterShield? Let us know!
@@memefeed2147 You could have just said, please make boots for my flat fucking feet.
@@mad0uche quite the opposite if you know anything about how the foot works, arch support flattens your feet, going barefoot does the opposite, please stfu if you don’t know what you’re talking about. Wearing nicks I woke up every morning with a Charlie horse, not anymore.
@@memefeed2147 you need a loafer with leather soles not a nicks boot good luck
I just ordered a pair of overlanders in the 1964 tan and I really wish you wouldn’t have wore your personals preferences on your shirt, and paid the same attention to that option as you did the rest of them.
@Travis Cooke I don't understand your comment on his shirt. He works for nicks boots, it's a video on nicks boots and his shirt says nicks boots
Grant: “If you like the sound of an easy break in…”
Burglar: “Why yes, yes I do!”
That 1964 leather is amazing. I live in Western Colorado where it’s really dry, with the occasional stream and waterfall. All that oil in the ‘64 is going to help keep my boots from drying out and cracking too early.
@Not the ATF you got any pics on the Facebook page? I order my Roberts in the 64 brown but haven’t seen any pictures anywhere.
These videos have made me feel 200% better about choosing the right boot. I wasn't sure about which type of leather was best for me. You guys have gone above and beyond on youtube to help us newbies to higher end boots understand what we need. I think it would be awesome for you to offer each stain as something we could purchase to hide scuffs and scratches
What was your final pick ?
I cannot understate how helpful this video is when trying ti choose the leather for your boot. Thanks a lot!
So many more options since I placed my order a month or so ago. Now I have to ponder my chooses and reconsider. More options are nice and shows business is growing. 💪
This video is 100X better then the last leather video! Can’t wait for my 64 brown Roberts to come.
I’m thinking about getting the same! How are yours?
Walnut weathershield would be incredible
Hey now, I’ve definitely seen a few shovels swung.
Need to add Chromexcel for custom work boots. It ages and wears like fine wine.
*I like their suede!*
Really enjoyed this one guys. These options are next to none!!
Got a quick question for you.
Does the weather shield still let your foot breathe with all the silicone in it
You guys must make knee guards/pads.
Proper thick old fashioned ones with straps and buckles
I'm getting close to the point of ordering my first pair of Nick's. This really helps me with the leather choice. Pretty sure the 1964 Walnut is what I'd go for. As stated in the video, it will all look similar given some time.
I do have a question for anyone that can help with the following: I currently wear Carolina Loggers (composite toe required for work) in 11.5 2E. Does anyone have any experience in how these will line up with Nick's sizing? It's looking like it's recommended I go down a 1/2 size for a snug fit as I have now, but would love to hear from someone that has had these before. It's going to be a HUGE step up in quality, and price, so I'd like to do it right the first time.
Edit: I'm looking at going with the Builder Pro.
It's not 1/2 size down from your Carolinas, but a 1/2 size down from your Brannock sizing. Look at their diy sizing guide from their website. Worked perfectly for me.
@@Totemparadox Thank you. I should have mentioned that my Brannock sizing is also an 11.5 when I was measured in the store. When I bought this most recent pair of shoes I also tried on some Thorogoods, but actually took an 11 in them. It was the first time I've ever had a boot that 'small' actually fit. It made me a little unsure about how to proceed with Nick's.
I did print out their sizing chart from the website, but I ended up getting different numbers than what I got in the store which confused me even more.
@@Patryn71 That's interesting. How much different?
@@Totemparadox About 1/2 size. Barefoot on the printable chart I'm just over an 11 1/2. With socks I'm a solid 12. In the store, with my boot socks, I'm dead on an 11 1/2.
Why don’t you offer the builder pro with a wedge sole for quick ship?
This was cool to see
any heritage non work leather options coming in the near future? Would love to see some chrompak or other oily heritage leathers in the future.
Great video. I have wondered about the toughness of the 1964 leather. The silicon infused is very interesting. Will you be making another video on the heritage leathers?
Also interested in weathershield leather.
Does the watershield leather require a different silicone based conditioner? Or is it the same care products you always recommend?
I'm also curious about that.
I would like to know as well since it is silicon based, perhaps one must use a silicon based wax/oil treatment as opposed to bees wax or some other natural sealer
very informative tnx
Leather on the table looked great, but when they where on those boots at the end that was sexy
Funny because i was torn between the heritage tanker and the tactical boot. Then i seen they had a tactical tanker and im sold hahah just dont know if i should get 64 black or weathershield black. I live in buffalo where its snowy and icy for 5 months so im leaning weathersheild
What is it about the chocolate Max support that makes it harder to break in?
I swear, every time I watch this I come out with a new favorite... hahaha
Probably gonna go with 1964 walnut or brown... though I also really like the weathershield brown, especially since I do quite a bit of snow hiking... I think I'm gonna end up.with five or six pairs here over the next couple years haha
I too am torn between the weather shield brown and the 1964 brown. I wonder if break-in, patina and water resistance are about the same.
@@user-vw7qe1cf9x like he says, after you wash and oil them a few times they're all gonna be dark brown to black...
I have one of the card wallets in 1964...been in my back pocket daily for 4 months now, it's been thru the wash once, but never been oiled or anything... it's become a dark rust brown... almost like the W&C oiled latigo chestnut on the nicks leather page...
@@toadamine This is super good to know! Thanks so much for adding your experience with the same leather im interested in. The boots are a lot of money so it bears a little research and a few questions. Much appreciated
@@user-vw7qe1cf9x I recommend ordering some leather accessories in the leathers you're considering, then you can get it in your hands and see it in person before pulling the trigger on expensive boots...
@@toadamine This is a great idea. Thanks and will do. Better safe than sorry.
I am having a hard time seeing the difference between Easy Break-In and Max-Support. So Easy Break-In would offer less ("Sub-Max"?) support than MaxSupport? Beyond the marketing lingo, I am having a tough time seeing the real reason to keep MaxSupport in the line-up, right? In other words: I appreciate the explanation videos, but please be clear about the trade-offs - because these will be there.
I appreciate the tests, but there will be practical consequences: break-in time, durability, water-repellency - these would be the parameters that matter to workers. So any remarks on those parameters would be appreciated. You talk about water and oil absorbance, but we need to know what that would mean to particular jobs.
Thank you!!!
My man it's leather. You want easier break in? Buy the 1964 series. Don't over think it. You won't die if you get standard walnut instead of 1964 walnut. It very well might be that Nicks will completely transition to the 1964 since it seems like a superior leather, but that doesn't mean they will.
@@Totemparadox What a weird response. I would still like Nicks to explain their commercial view.
@@77Matt Not weird at all. Just putting your uppity ass back into its place. And what do you mean by water and oil absorbances impact on jobs? Of you work in a wrt environment, get the leather with most water resistance. Want better oil absorbance? Get a roughout boot .
For those who really put thier boots through abuse the old school leathers adds value. They are often guys who are wearing out a pair of these in a year or so then back in for a rebuild. I think it makes sense to keep a product that targets that regularly returning customer.
I did the max support
What style will the 360 stitch down be available in?¿
My ideal set up would be the traveler, weather shield brown, 360 stich down, on a sierra sole. Comfortable more water resistant and still enough grip in the sole for walking on wet surfaces. Please! Do that. Ill be the lab rat for that
I live in Arizona Desert. I wonder if the Watershield would actually hold up better since the silicon will help keep the oils? or would the 1964 be better since it is infused more? I have a lot of scratchies and sharp rocks where i go hiking/fishing
I still want to know why they don't have the weather shield in rough out it doesn't seem like it matters which side is facing out for the water resistance
The 1964 Tan seems to be an outlier. Not a much finish or conditioning like the other 1964 leathers and seems stiffer. I just ordered a pair oof boots in the tan. I'm wondering if the tan is still considered your ez-break in or more like your max-support leathers. I'm also curious what type of conditioning you'd recommend with that tan leather.
I love the characteristics of the heritage brown waxed flesh. If I ordered a pair of black max rough out can it be waxed down for similar finish in a heavier work boot?
Can it be done? Yes. Do I know how to? No.
Do u consider bison a work leather
set lighting could be better
What's with the circus music lol
I want the 1964 leather. Or brown Chromeexcel. I want my boots to get a really nice patina, what kind would you recommend?
what options are good for hot weather and some breathability? loooks like the tan would be the most permeable
Grant !! What you going to do with the sample that you just did a torcher test on the video ?? can you give them away or sell them ? Just asking they are still good leather to make some thing out of please let us know Thank you !! John
Does/will the weathershield take bees wax like my max support builder pro’s…?
Speaking of tannage, do you only carry oil tanned leathers, or do you also use veg tan? I don't think I ever saw that adressed anywhere... thanks for the informative video!
All the W&C leathers are veg tanned.
@@kp.co.6074 So veg tanned and then hot stuffed with oils? That's interesting!
I think, but can't yet confirm, that the max support us veg tanned.
Are you guys not going to carry the #8 anymore?
So I recall previously it had been mentioned the max support will take a shine with some effort. How does the 1964 do taking wax compared to the max support? Will it take wax and shine well, or would it act more like a CXL that doesn't tend to play well with wax?
MaxSupport will definitely shine better!
Out of curiosity what leather is used to make the laces?
Where can I get one of those green Nick's shirts?
Why in the world are the WaterShield leathers not available in roughout for MTO builds??
The back side of it is not very water resistant so it mostly defeats the purpose. I don't know why this is as I don't the technicalities. I only know as I called Nicks to ask the same thing. LOL
I’d like to use the weather shield brown leather but rough out it sucks that my only option is all smooth 😔
I called Nicks and they said they don't offer the weather shield in rough out as it will not have the same weather/water resistance as the smooth. Essentially the rough out weather shield wont keep water out.
Hey Grant, love the boots, but you guys aren’t answering ANY of the many questions in the comments. It’s been eighth months. What gives?
I have a pair of builder pros on order with the original Max Support walnut leather. I thought about calling and having them change it to the 1964 walnut for easier breakin. My question is. Whats the difference between the 1964 and the Max support loaded with Hubbard shoe grease? (I use this on all my boots) Thanks
Excellent question...and one I have thought about as well.
I also wonder how much more water-resistant the weather shield is vs the 1964 one. If it's not much different, and you dont get wet feet all too often, why not go for the easier break in of the 1964,
Grant you need to work a few months blue collar (again?)
My new Whites Forman has “Made in USA with globally sourced components” tag…
The Vibram Christy sole may be made in Italy.
Whites are also owned by lacrosse and danner. So I wouldn’t be shocked if a lot of materials are outsourced to China
Whites are no longer a fully American venture. They also use slightly thinner leather. Still a great boot, but as they are about the same price range as Nicks, Ill go with Nicks.
In my line of work I end up getting a little Gasoline on my boots. Which leather would be best for me?
Like the leather.
The circus music...not so much.
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