Sprout's Life Is A Tragedy

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  • čas přidán 3. 10. 2021
  • After watching the my little pony a new generation movie 3 times I have realized more and more that I feel horrible for Sprout. His story in the mlp gen 5 movie might be deeper than what we saw and in today's video I want to go over it. Why is Sprout's life such a tragedy? Lets find out in this mlp gen 5 theory.
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  • @DegixHorse
    @DegixHorse Před 2 lety +184

    10:27 this wasn't the only moment Phyllis ditched her son, look at the scene where she, Queen Haven and Alphabittle put the frame back together: she's made a sudden change of mind, going against all her principles, without involving, sharing nor explaining it to Sprout, making him look as the only villain while he was "only" seeking for her attention. Sprout might be coward but we sure can tell who he's got that trait from.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +36

      Yes that's true. I should have mentioned how convenient it was that she was the last one to step forward and fix the frame.

    • @jacktaylor9217
      @jacktaylor9217 Před 2 lety +2

      Thank you for the response but what about his father maybe he was a tyrant

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +17

      There's nothing in the movie to suggest that

    • @jacktaylor9217
      @jacktaylor9217 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dannyballsub okay I’m just saying that because I think there are still real villain in equestria

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Před 2 lety +3

      @@dannyballsub It's better that Phyllis was the last one instead of the first one or the middle one to step forward and fix the frame because Sunny is also an Earth pony like her. The other tribes put their trust in an Earth pony and an Earth pony reciprocates that trust.

  • @PokemonkaDub
    @PokemonkaDub Před 2 lety +87

    Phyllis is like a beauty-contest mum. not caring about her child feelings but only about their success. She thinks that saying empty complements would be enough to drive away her sons insecurities and bad feelings. She ignores any attempt Sprout makes to have a deeper conversation, like when he asks if he was a good sheriff (the face he made after she just ran away was the same he did before "here we go again", like knew he scewwed up but he just wanted to TALK IT OUT, she should've said "No, but you can be better. We all can" and it would be such a POWERFULL LINE and an awesome lesson) or when he said that he's upset because Hitch left (and was really mean to him, sseriously why is he so in your face rude to Sprout even when he does his best - chaising Sunny). Everypony ignores Sprout. no matter if he does good, bad or nothing at all. So why bother? Would explain his lazyness. And when he finally has towns attention TRYING TO CALM THEM DOWN they just compare him to Hitch and don't listen at all... ignore. So what he does? What his mum always did - use the fear to control. He will MAKE THEM listen. Plus let me just shine a light on the unicorn cupcake scene. His mum didn't let him take one, later in the movie we see him eat constantly but never when his mum is around (i mean he even snatches a cookie during first song). He didn't force anypony to do anthing, they all believed that his way was the best thing to do. He was just as scared as all the town folks. He thought he really was fighting the bad guys.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +19

      I love this perspective on this theory

    • @ixiahj
      @ixiahj Před 2 lety +4

      Based on some deleted scenes, when Sprout asked Phyllis if he was a good sheriff, Phyllis actually replied "No but we'll find something else you're good at." To me this seemed lilke a valid reply but for some reason, the movie decided to make it a gag. Almost intentionally. I wonder why.

  • @kokkakurogers1520
    @kokkakurogers1520 Před 2 lety +87

    Sprout is definitely a mommy’s boy

  • @everetttoews433
    @everetttoews433 Před 2 lety +119

    There’s one flaw in your reasoning: Phyllis did not make Sprout the sheriff.
    Sprout was already Hitch’s deputy, which means, in the event that Hitch becomes unavailable, as was the case when he went after Sunny, it is Sprout’s duty to become the acting sheriff until he returns. When Phyllis said “You are the sheriff, at least for now,” she wasn’t appointing him to a new role; she was reminding him of the one he already had.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +39

      Yes but she is more or less making him sherrif. She could have chose not to say this and "make" him sherrif but she did because she needed someone who could take on the town

    • @everetttoews433
      @everetttoews433 Před 2 lety +24

      @@dannyballsub The way I interpreted it, she saw this as a chance to let Sprout be the sheriff he always wanted to be, which is why she was buttering him up. She wanted to see him succeed in his new role, and be proud of him, but he let his duties go to his head, leading her to become concerned that he was taking things way too far.

    • @ice6erg76
      @ice6erg76 Před 2 lety +5

      @@everetttoews433 thats how i interpreted it as well

    • @ixiahj
      @ixiahj Před 2 lety +17

      @@everetttoews433 I saw no buttering up in that scene. The way Phyllis tells Sprout its his destiny looked ominous. Looked more manipulative than encouraging to me. It seems like Phyllis cares very little for Sprout's success as a sheriff or otherwise. If she really cared about her son, she would be grooming him for successor of Canterlogic instead of letting him waste his time as being deputy. She just needed a sheriff at the time and Sprout really was legally Hitch's replacement when he's gone. I do believe she did NOT set him up to fail but I also believe she does not care much for him. Now that I think about it, Phyllis just lets Sprout play as Sheriff so she wouldn't need to deal with him at all.

    • @everetttoews433
      @everetttoews433 Před 2 lety +3

      @@ixiahj I don’t think it was manipulative. She compliments him on his appearance, tells him everyone wants to hear from him, and that it’s his destiny to be what he always wanted to be. All of that sounds more like she’s trying to give him the courage he needed to play his role, not because she wants to use him, but because she wants to see him succeed as sheriff. When he steps outside as sheriff for the first time, and everyone is asking for Hitch instead, she asks them to give Sprout a chance. Even in the intro, she was happy that Sprout had a desire to become the sheriff one day. All of this suggests that she desires to see Sprout be successful, and when he lets his power go to his head because of her love and encouragement, as Sprout puts it, she has to learn to stand against him in order to prevent further catastrophe.

  • @maxfreeman818
    @maxfreeman818 Před 2 lety +30

    After seeing this, I can clearly say that Phyllis's neglectfulness is what made her son a mama's boy cause she didn't love him enough, only herself. He allowed the Sheriff thing go to his head out of good intentions to make her notice him, but she still didn't. That's what makes her a terrible mother, emotional abuse.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +6

      Yeah a lot of emotional abuse

    • @maxfreeman818
      @maxfreeman818 Před 2 lety +4

      @@dannyballsub I now know why he ran off at the beginning

    • @rabiespuddings1735
      @rabiespuddings1735 Před 2 lety +3

      I honestly feel pretty bad for sprout, all he ever really wanted was his mother's affection and approval. His bigotry was born of fear then genuine hatred, it was completely understandable that him and the other Earth ponies acted the way they did because it wasn't like they had much for reference when it came to how unicorns and pegasi were. It seemed like Argyle was the only earth pony who had any knowledge of the princesses and the elements of harmony, and because of that everyone wrote him off as this crazy person who was just making up stories in his head. And while sprout did cause a lot of damage to the town and to Sunny's house he's not at all a threat after the magic was restored. I really... REALLY hope he gets some kind of redemption Arc in the upcoming series and becomes part of the main Gen 5.

  • @ryanfever8686
    @ryanfever8686 Před 2 lety +17

    You can see when he becomes sheriff he uses the exact same tactics of fear mongering his mother uses except his prior insecurities of him thinking he’s not good enough makes him dial it up to 100 so when he does finally have power he goes mad over it.there’s lots of layers to sprouts character that I hope gets explored in the series of him and his mother working things out and him maybe becoming a good sheriff so when he ask the same question of “mommy was I a good sheriff” his mom can finally say yes, I think that would be really heartwarming

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +6

      I don't really expect him to remain deputy or sherrif in the series. It wouldn't make very much sense given the events of the movie

    • @ryanfever8686
      @ryanfever8686 Před 2 lety +4

      @@dannyballsub oh I don’t mean like immediately after, maybe Hitch can step down a while is the series and Sprout can grow more as character aswll before taking the mantle as sherif

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +5

      Well I feel like he's going to move onto something better. Being sherrif was never in the cards for him because his cutie mark is a vegetable which means he should have some kind of thing with that

    • @ryanfever8686
      @ryanfever8686 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dannyballsub yeah true I’m just trying to work stuff out with what we know currently

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Před 2 lety +5

      Thank goodness the original ending was scrapped. Sprout has potential to become the 6th member of the group eventually.

  • @SplashSurfer216
    @SplashSurfer216 Před 2 lety +44

    Yeah, if you ask me, Phyllis is almost like the pony equivalent of Buck Cluck.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +13

      Haha yeah fair

    • @drusles
      @drusles Před 2 lety

      nah i’d say tord from eddsworld maybe
      i mean they stole the giant robot

  • @NikoZguri
    @NikoZguri Před 2 lety +74

    you have some pretty good theories as to why Sprout's as insecure and a bit unhinged as he was in the movie, but that still doesn't stop from being a weak.... he's not really a straight-up villain, so i'm just gonna call him an antagonist. what the writers basically did with him is give him the Storm King treatment, and by that, i mean he's way too goofy and incompetent to come off as the least bit threatening. the only things that make him A LITTLE better than the Storm King is: his "Danger, Danger" song was really entertaining, and some of his dorky moments were admittedly pretty funny

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +27

      There weren't really villains in the movie because there was no 1 person that was to blame for everything. Technically all the tribes are antagonists to the main characters and the point of the movie is the turn them all into protagonists. It didn't need some big bad villain like the storm king or tirek or something

    • @NikoZguri
      @NikoZguri Před 2 lety +4

      @@dannyballsub point taken

    • @ixiahj
      @ixiahj Před 2 lety +6

      A long time ago, when Lauren Faust created Trixie, she said Trixie was a version of Twilight but instead of everything going right in her life, everything went wrong. Sunny and Sprout are the same. If Sprout's father was Argyle and Sunny's mother was Phyllis, Sprout will be the one running with Izzy while Sunny will be the one riding the giant pony gundam at the end of the movie. Its easy to say Sprout is a "bad guy" because its easy to blame someone for something going south than it is to take responsibility for it.

    • @latesonic2006
      @latesonic2006 Před 2 lety

      I think he not a stormking but a discord type character

  • @Sootle
    @Sootle Před 2 lety +26

    Its confirmed
    Phyllis is a Karen.

  • @speedforcespector
    @speedforcespector Před 2 lety +40

    Thank you for this cause it shows that Sprout was in an awful parenting environment that lead him to a boiling point

  • @3173_Delta
    @3173_Delta Před 2 lety +42

    7:15 "Fuck you this is fair use"
    Absolutely perfect. 😂

  • @joshuaareta2001
    @joshuaareta2001 Před 2 lety +35

    It's all Phillys' fault.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +23

      A large portion I would say. But Sprout did make the conscious decision even if it was from such a fucked up childhood

    • @viriyananda
      @viriyananda Před 2 lety

      Yeah I hope she realized or got deserves to be suffer

  • @NikoZguri
    @NikoZguri Před 2 lety +32

    as for Phyllis: yeah, she was the definition of a Karen. but her sudden face-turn at the end was a bit too unbelievable. she literally just abandons all her principles and rules on spreading fear and xenophobia around Equestria just because her son went bat-shit crazy and tried to murder a bunch of innocent ponies (which pretty much was her own fault, judging by how she raised him and all). like, she doesn't retaliate or hold on to her beliefs any longer. she just lets it all go in a split second. i still like the movie, but i'm not buying that

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +9

      The best argument I've seen is that Phyllis was trying to protect sunny who she knew was in the lighthouse but also was supposedly protecting Sprout because despite everything she didn't want him to be a murderer. Both arguments technically would work if we got the proper dialogue or actions associated with it but we didn't get anything like that

    • @NikoZguri
      @NikoZguri Před 2 lety +4

      @@dannyballsub that's why her changing her views at the end doesn't really work. there wasn't enough time to clear it up

  • @shadowhound5113
    @shadowhound5113 Před 2 lety +9

    Sprout was the best character in the movie. His mother was the true villain.

  • @NotEnough956
    @NotEnough956 Před 2 lety +7

    It's weird that I want sprout as last member of main team. If sunny is an alicorn in the future has 2 pegasi (pips and zips), 1 unicorn (izzy), 2 earth pony (hitch and sprout) is interesting. I don't want more unicorn in main team because, unicorn is always OP and I want more stallion in main team.
    To be honest, if not include main 5, sprout is my favourite character in the movie. He is the mirror of a kid that born like this because, parents NEVER teach their child "What good or bad" NEVER "Scold their child when they're did something bad" It's hit me in my heart because this is one of problems in "family" in a present.
    Sprout's problem personalities that mainly cause by his mom still can tell more story in the series. I want to see him to be better person and finally be friend with main 5 and be last member of main 5 that will change to main 6 from now on.
    One question, If sprout has an element?
    What element that he will has?
    When I come back to think.....if sunny is an alicorn and sprout as last member.... it's not different from G4 lol. But, at least we have 2 stallion.

  • @ethantay4630
    @ethantay4630 Před 2 lety +13

    on a side note, mlp has consistantly strived for messages regarding change and redemtion , provided the charecter works towards this goal . So maybe Phyllis will take longer to understand that for the most part, she wasnt a good parent to sprout.
    but in order for phyllis to change, Sprout must change, and become somone who can think for himself and make decisions outside his moms manipulation . thats what i want to see in this new generation of mlp (the series not the movie)

    • @Dashiiem
      @Dashiiem Před 2 lety +4

      You are literally on point! The majority of the villains in mlp has been through change and realization to have a better life, you have to redeem yourself and to others that you are better than you are in the past. I feel like if a series actually came out, he has to go through realizing his actions, discovering the unbias, having more healthier habits and relationships, all of that jazz just for him to confront his mom about the awful things she has done to him. It’s gonna take a while, but it’s worth it. Confrontation, communication, confession, closure, you name it.

  • @ilikemlpandjunk9035
    @ilikemlpandjunk9035 Před 2 lety +3

    if they restore the freindship school in the tv show and sprout reforms i see a new guidance councilor

  • @lanita_mcgray
    @lanita_mcgray Před 2 lety +7

    Well, the "look, a flying dog" was a piss poor attempt at being funny as well as a cop out instead of hitting their issue.

  • @flowerdust90
    @flowerdust90 Před 2 lety +6

    also when Argyle tell hitch and sprout its time to go home you can hear when sprout say "ugh fine" like he do not want to go home bec he will be alone or just like its not fun to be home

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +4

      He also wasn't supposed to be there. Everything just tells us he doesn't have a good life at home with his mom and its really sad to me

  • @aidanbarnes4290
    @aidanbarnes4290 Před 2 lety +6

    Sprout isn't evil he's just a dork....and he should be proud of that

  • @katelynthewhitewerewolf6376

    I hope Sprout doesn't get too hated by everypony else his mother is really more to blame I hope he gets a redemption arc I wouldn't mind him becoming part of the Mane Five and the Sixth member and we would have two boy ponies instead of one and I wouldn't mind a dragon character added too who resembles Spike and already has wings.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +1

      Would be nice

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 Před rokem +1

      Apparently it looks like only Sprout is punished while others like his mom got away scott-free.

  • @RoseCadenza
    @RoseCadenza Před 2 lety +12

    I can see that there would be a possible episode in one of the main character (most likely Sunny or Hitch) to help try to fix Sprout and Phyllis's relationship. Or even an episode that would go more into depth of their relationship. They did leave a lot of things open in the movie that are likely to be explained in the special and/or series. Idk. Something that could possibly happen in the series though is that, if their relationship progressively gets worse, Sprout would become an absolutely broken pony and would probably end up to be an antagonist or an equivalent of Discord (I loved Discord, so I would be interested in this).

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +4

      I would love to see their relationship expanded on. I don't think it will be explored all that much and will likely continue being a running joke that Sprout is a mommas boy

  • @Kaediting._
    @Kaediting._ Před 2 lety +2

    It's also obvious where he got his actions from, like how would we act like that without a mom? If he didn't have a mom or a dad he would be confused what is happening or what unicorns are?

  • @c4keatst4ke
    @c4keatst4ke Před rokem +2

    I can’t exactly be mad at Sprout, he literally started a war but under his mom’s influence, she literally got him all riled up about being sheriff

  • @SilverSpoonRiche
    @SilverSpoonRiche Před 2 lety +8

    We did this same song and dance with Diamond and her mother. And as rushed as it was (like, whiplash inducing) Diamond chose to take a different path.
    Actually, I blame Hitch for all of this. He's the one who abandoned the town at the hight of paranoia and panic. And what was his reason? To hunt down Izzy for being a Unicorn or hunt down Sunny because she let a Unicorn loose? His only instruction to Sprout was "Just don't start a war." which is exactly what he ended up doing. As (I am assuming) a duly elected Sheriff he should be able to chose his deputy and he chose his stupid, cowardly, childhood friend. Cronyism. But then again, only the Pegasi had well defined authority figures and even those three were easily removed from power (by the military, I guess.) just for one act of fraud. The Unicorns had NO authority structure other than Alpabittle being the biggest and best at games.
    Hitch as Sheriff was the ONLY defined authority figure for the Earth Ponies and his position was easily usurped by his deputy and his deputy's mother moments after he left to pursue a fugitive.
    Actually, when you think about it, this movie was very poorly written from a stand point of world building. Gen4 had mayors, government officials, guards (except in the movie) and police ponies under a ruling set of Princesses. Gen5 is a mess.

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Před 2 lety +1

      G5 is fine, it's not a mess. DT was a jerk because that was her personality. That one episode with her mother was an embarrassingly rushed fix job that contradicts what we've seen of DT before.

    • @SilverSpoonRiche
      @SilverSpoonRiche Před 2 lety +1

      @@0deadx21 No, it is a mess. It has NO well defined world building. The two people with titles of authority Sheriff and Queen were quickly and easily removed from power.

    • @FAN4IT
      @FAN4IT Před 2 lety +2

      That is what I noticed when I watched this movie is that Sprout is Diamond Tiara of Generation 5. The reason why they are the way they are is because of their parents. It is blame the parent not the child situation.

    • @SilverSpoonRiche
      @SilverSpoonRiche Před 2 lety +2

      @@FAN4IT And like Diamond from season 1-5 Sprout is shown to have no empathy or self awareness. "Was I good sheriff mommy?" was the worst possible response after nearly killing two ponies and destroying a light house. And that stupid b!tch couldn't even tell his a$$ "No, you were not."
      So I guess attempted murder, destruction of property and inciting a mob to race war is tOTALLY COOL in that world!
      Not exactly a good message for kids at home!

    • @FAN4IT
      @FAN4IT Před 2 lety +2

      This definitely needed to happen:
      czcams.com/video/Gia0YCvtu2o/video.html
      If not anything else Hitch should at least take his badge away.

  • @97spartan
    @97spartan Před 2 lety +4

    This better lead to one hell of a redemption arc for this filly faced little goon (I’m saying this outta love he’s my favourite,)

  • @h0lygr41l
    @h0lygr41l Před 2 lety +7

    me whos never seen this movie: hmm.. interesting

  • @EvilScrooge
    @EvilScrooge Před 2 lety +12

    To be honest, there was probably no redemption arch for antagonists as there was nothing to redeem. Movie shown us that we are dealing not with evil, but with mislead characters. Even you pointed out how Phyllis was probably taught her entire life to believe in this separation. I can't tell that there was any rushed redemption in this movie, all I saw were the mislead characters seeing the errors of their ways.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +6

      She didn't really have a moment where she saw those errors she just suddenly throws all her beliefs out at the last second and almost kills herself over the opposite belief that she had

    • @EvilScrooge
      @EvilScrooge Před 2 lety +4

      @@dannyballsub Well, she jumped in front of that machine mainly because she didn't want her son to harm anyone. There's nothing more to it. The fact that you don't trust other people don't necessary mean you want them dead, especially when there are your neighbor's lives on the line. Sprout just went over his head trying to help earth ponies, and his mother saw that giving him too much power could end up in harm. As you see Sprout being manipulated, I see his mom as judgmental, but not a complete idiot. There's a reason she was making only the products that could keep ponies safe. I did not see any aggression in her TBH

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 Před rokem

      @@EvilScrooge She is also clearly taking advantage of their fear to advance her business too

  • @dentonscheibal3
    @dentonscheibal3 Před 2 lety +3

    7:46 personally I felt that Phyllis should've been more clear with Sprout that he's only an acting sheriff and explain what his duties actually are until Hitch's eventual return, maybe then she could've had an easier time trying to talk him out of becoming so tyrannical, war and power-hungry.

  • @shadowhound5113
    @shadowhound5113 Před 2 lety +3

    They also never addressed that Sprouts mother made a business out of selling that fear. And used Sprout as a scape goat.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 Před rokem

      And apparently she is fine with her business is DEAD now.
      Her factory is now a community center.

  • @everquartz
    @everquartz Před 2 lety +18

    unrelated to the video, but do you know what this 'sparkle' izzy keeps going on about?
    at some point she says to zipp "her sparkle is so bright" and the only thing i noticed is that shes slightly more bluer (this was the scene where there was a station for the other species)
    and to pip during the campfire scene "your sparkle is aquamarine"
    she just keeps going on about this 'sparkle' and it's always a question i had
    what do you think it is?

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +15

      In my review of the movie I mentioned how it was something they did and never delivered on which is a shame. But I think its basically just your aura or something like that. Izzy already explained that the happier you are the beighter it is which explains the comment about Zipp. Zipp was incredibly happy because she was flying without wires even if it was still fake.

    • @everquartz
      @everquartz Před 2 lety +3

      @@dannyballsub that probably explains it
      i tried to link together and throughout the movie (especially the scenes) i tried to find what it meant, but i assume its going to not be explained or its going to come later
      i have a theory the color is also to do with your personality, aquarmine kind of fit's pip's personality honestly and zipp seems to fit a nice blue color which is what she shined
      i have my own theories on it too and i do think its somewhat an aura, maybe its something special thats unique to ponies only? i'm not sure
      i haven't got a clue but personally like you, i think its an aura
      EDIT: i also feel like unicorns can also tell the color of their 'sparkle' from instinct like izzy does
      EDIT 2: i also think its a personality thing

  • @YTflop420
    @YTflop420 Před 2 lety +6

    That one dislike is from Phyllis herself

  • @ilikemlpandjunk9035
    @ilikemlpandjunk9035 Před 2 lety +7

    you're theories may be plausible, i mean what else would you get when you combined a child who was only taught racisem his whole life and a guy whos unrecognized for what he does and is stuck behind his friends shadow

  • @thatonerandompersononthein6765

    He obviously learned a lot from his mom though, the way he controlled manipulated and took over the town (not to talk about building a mechanical pony), takes skill.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +2

      Yeah and she got away with it too

    • @vocaloidotaku8125
      @vocaloidotaku8125 Před rokem +1

      @@dannyballsub his talent for engineering could be useful in the series

  • @zerenickdersatanist6346
    @zerenickdersatanist6346 Před 2 lety +3

    I am not sure what will happen to Sprout in the serie in 2022 but what I think will happen is, that he will take Sunnys place, as the outsider with no friends. Maybe he will lost his job as debuty.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +3

      Yeah I don't think he will be deputy anymore. I imagine we will see him try many different careers in the series. Maybe even an episode where he works for sunny at her smoothie stand

    • @zerenickdersatanist6346
      @zerenickdersatanist6346 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dannyballsub It would be funny when he works for Sunnys Smoothie business ^^.

    • @ilikemlpandjunk9035
      @ilikemlpandjunk9035 Před 2 lety +1

      @@dannyballsub or maybe they could throw collage into the mix maybe he actually got offered a scholarship to a good school but skipped it when hitch offered him to be deputy

  • @dreamwanderer9769
    @dreamwanderer9769 Před 2 lety +8

    This sounds like a fanfic my friend, jackolantern jackalope is writing! Sprout's not completely bad

  • @TeamFriendship8600
    @TeamFriendship8600 Před 2 lety +1

    I hope they don't forget about Sprout in the series. He won't just get over his anger and paranoia overnight.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +1

      I hope we get to see him again. I'm sure we will but you never know

  • @50d4c4p
    @50d4c4p Před 2 lety +3

    True. No one told sprout it was wrong and he seems like he had a bad childhood that was completely his parents/mothers fault and i agree that he had a bad mom and his parents/mom could of done better.

    • @ryanfever8686
      @ryanfever8686 Před 2 lety +3

      I might be looking into it to much but during sunny’s opening song he steals a child’s skateboard, he aggressively shouts at 2 kids playing when entering the factory and during his song he steals a kids ice cream and destroys a house 2 kids were building. This could maybe show an remorse sprout has for children enjoying themselves because he didn’t get a happy childhood

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +4

      Man that just makes it sadder

    • @50d4c4p
      @50d4c4p Před 2 lety

      @@ryanfever8686 true

  • @LeonidSaykin
    @LeonidSaykin Před 2 lety +3

    His mother is terrible and should be jailed for corruption or something

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +2

      Well I think by the end all is forgiven for the sake of moving forward. Technically everyone was ill informed and now that they are informed properly they can have a second chance to be good.

  • @sunboltgift711
    @sunboltgift711 Před 2 lety +32

    I was honestly surprised that they made Argyle a male Pony who was a great father to Sunny, actually be a good parent for his short time on screen, compared to Phyllis a female Pony and terrible mother to Sprout. Because with the woke agenda feeding society the way it has been usually depicts males as toxic and females as perfect so that's another reason why I thought this movie was really great. Argyle was a great dad and Sunny shows it in her actions, while Phyllis was a terrible mother and Sprout shows that as well in his actions.

    • @isaacvazquez627
      @isaacvazquez627 Před rokem +2

      I mean, the first 3 generations of mlp, the ponies were a race without males, and even in g4 they still were very matriarchal. A positive male figure in the franchise was necessary at this point.

  • @0deadx21
    @0deadx21 Před 2 lety +3

    That draft ending (you can find a link of it on TV Tropes) is so awful. It could have ruined everything, along with the characters of Izzy, Phyllis and Sprout.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +2

      I didn't know anything about draft endings but idk if it really matters towards this theory

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Před 2 lety +3

      @@dannyballsub That ending would have ruined the movie and major characters along with it. It's like whoever made it totally forgot that fear and mistrust were the conflict and the ponies are just a byproduct of that, and made it look like Sprout was solely to blame for everything. I got the impression that Sprout was portrayed as undeserving of a second chance, and made the characters around him look like smug jerks.

  • @Benjamin1986980
    @Benjamin1986980 Před 2 lety +2

    Here's my theory for the show. If you look at the main cast there's one person noticeably missing. Fluttershy
    It's pretty obvious these are the new elements, but no one represents kindness. It's my theory back in the series, Sprout will be dragged along first because no one trusts him, but it will reveal that he's the element of kindness, and his actions in the movie are cutie mark failure insanity syndrome. His mother's maltreatment has kept him from his destiny and has resulted in him going off his rocker.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +1

      Hitch is the element of kindness and all the other elements are new different ones

    • @Benjamin1986980
      @Benjamin1986980 Před 2 lety +2

      @@dannyballsub on the contrary, I would say
      Sunny is friendship (duh)
      Hitch is Loyalty (literally followed Sunny across the known world)
      Zipp is honesty (betrayed her mother to stop her mom's lie)
      Pipp is generosity (followed Zipp to give her the jewel despite the trouble going on)
      Izzy is laughter (does this need explanation?)
      It's pretty clear that they're recreating the elements. Now, they might change, like the characteristics switched from the pillars to our Gen 4 cast, but they should be related. However that still leaves kindness out. This also provides a nice Arc for the main cast, learning to forgive Sprout and have Sprout learn how to be a decent person despite his mother's gross misparenting.

  • @Galimeer5
    @Galimeer5 Před 2 lety +5

    Phyllis didn't appoint Sprout as sheriff, she just clarified what being deputy actually meant.
    In Hitch's absence, the responsibility of sheriff fell to Sprout.
    But I do agree with you; Phyllis should've known her son wasn't ready for that. I don't think she was intentionally setting him up to fail, though. It was definitely a lapse in judgment, but I never got the impression she did it to protect herself.
    Lastly, I think the reason Phyllis isn't as disliked as Sprout is because she had reservations about Sprout's rise to power. At the end, she even tried to get him to stop, thinking she was the only person he would still listen to, but he was too drunk on power (and too desperate to keep it) by then.

    • @ryanfever8686
      @ryanfever8686 Před 2 lety +2

      I wouldn’t necessarily say sprout is craving power I feel like it’s more him wanting to prove himself and make a difference similar to Hitch, I still think at the end Sprout felt like he was doing the right thing for the town. Definitely an interesting thing to discuss tho

  • @njfox3305
    @njfox3305 Před 2 lety +3

    what about fillis redemption ark when she starts seeing sprout go power mad she starts looking concerned seeing her mistake at once she put the wrong person incharge sure she was acting menipulative but as soon as she sees sprouts death mechine she has the tone in her voice that says what have I done?

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +2

      A redemption is never as simple as a facial expression. It just doesn't work that way and thats why her "redemption" is so heavily debated as not really happening or happening very suddenly

  • @VcSaJen
    @VcSaJen Před 2 lety +7

    I don't think demonizing Phyllis is the right answer here. "Throw him to the wolves because I'm egoistic" thing never happened, that's a large stretch. Also, Hitch is an adult who's responsible for own actions, unless he's legally insane or something. He wasn't manipulated into starting the war and making her friend homeless, destroying her last memorabilia that she had left of her departed father.

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 Před rokem

      She kind of DID do that to him.
      And is the reason why Sprout was consumed by that fear.

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 Před 2 lety

    Sprout is like nuka from lion king 2

  • @rafaelleair325
    @rafaelleair325 Před 2 lety

    How do you turn those square grids on when building in Pony.town?

  • @toricallie7943
    @toricallie7943 Před 2 lety +3

    At the end of the day you can cough it up to unattended ignorance. Everyone in the show is capable to change and have a righteous ulterior motive despite them being very questionable. All the characters are very likeable and not capable of doing something out of plain hatefulness but bred bigotry

  • @mylife-23
    @mylife-23 Před 2 lety +3

    Glad someone else saw it.....

  • @Dreamheart101
    @Dreamheart101 Před 2 lety +1

    I don't think she can appoint Sprout over Hitch as Sheriff - when she said he was the Sheriff now, I think it was more so because the deputy acts as Sheriff when the Sheriff is away, and she was pointing out to him it was his chance to prove he can be a good Sheriff.
    Additionally, if Sprout had been appointed not out of default but by his mother, then the end of the movie where he asks if he was a Sheriff doesn't make much sense, as she would then have to actively decide to remove him as Sheriff, and its obvious by the end of the movie that he's definitely not the Sheriff anymore.

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Před 2 lety

      Maretime Bay has bylaws instead of laws. Phyllis, Hitch, and Sprout are the ones running the whole place.

  • @renamon5658
    @renamon5658 Před 2 lety

    I wonder if sprout's mom will get Better by the end of g5

  • @nightshroud9671
    @nightshroud9671 Před rokem +1

    What are your thoughts on Sprout's later appearances?
    For me, his appearance in Chapter 4I can't shake the feeling of "Erm.. thats it??" on him.
    Like it felt like they skipped stuff.
    Wished he was part of the group too

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před rokem +1

      I thought his lack of appearances in the show was disappointing

    • @nightshroud9671
      @nightshroud9671 Před rokem +1

      @@dannyballsub And pretty bs

  • @ilikemlpandjunk9035
    @ilikemlpandjunk9035 Před 2 lety +2

    How do you think sprout got his cutie mark and what does it mean. My theory is that in the series he'll be the reformed hero of the group growing personality and maturing a lot as seasons go by I think sprout cutie mark represents the grouts and change he can bring to the world if he works hard enough. I also think Sprout is just as smart as twilight in intellectual ways but not socially witch led to him being a dictator.

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +2

      He might have ate a sprout or whatever his cutie mark is or just helped pick some one day. I doubt we will see his cutie mark origin but its probably not that interesting

  • @Maisymashupa
    @Maisymashupa Před rokem

    I think even though sprout is a mamas boy I think he should still be part of the main five and continuing the episodes 🤔

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před rokem

      Maybe not the main cast but should be there for future episodes. We need at least a conclusion for him

  • @user-wp2tu9tr9w
    @user-wp2tu9tr9w Před 2 lety

    Fun fact...how u do make that house really fast

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +1

      The footage of me making the house is like 20 to 30 minutes long and is sped up in editing to make it more interesting so you can see more work instead of 1 minute of me debating on the size of a room or position of objects.

  • @looneymicrophone6431
    @looneymicrophone6431 Před 2 lety +3

    I think phillis just felt guilty from making her son do what he did and that’s why she walked away from him

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +5

      Its still not fair to Sprout. If she felt guilty she should have talked to him and admitted she hasn't done right and promised to do better or something.

    • @looneymicrophone6431
      @looneymicrophone6431 Před 2 lety +5

      @@dannyballsub well maybe in the official series she’ll have a talk with him that depends if her and sprout will be part of the series

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety +5

      I hope they will be part of it. I loved sprout

    • @looneymicrophone6431
      @looneymicrophone6431 Před 2 lety +3

      @@dannyballsub everyone should like him he was misunderstood because he was afraid plus I don’t know why but his fur color and mane is the exact same as big Mac fir some reason

    • @ixiahj
      @ixiahj Před 2 lety +2

      Dude that's not guilt. That's someone running away from responsibility if I ever saw one. Its like you accidentally broke a vase then someone walks in asking you who broke it and then you say "it was like that when I got here."

  • @LUNA_076
    @LUNA_076 Před 2 lety +2

    ❤️

  • @Cartoonshipper
    @Cartoonshipper Před 2 lety +1

    Hey what is the game that you're playing?

    • @dannyballsub
      @dannyballsub  Před 2 lety

      Its pony.town a free web browser game for pc and mobile

    • @Cartoonshipper
      @Cartoonshipper Před 2 lety

      @@dannyballsub ok thanks, I'll check it out

  • @SaltTastesGood
    @SaltTastesGood Před 2 lety +1

    What game is that ur playing

  • @jacktaylor9217
    @jacktaylor9217 Před 2 lety +2

    Sprout is a bit odd

  • @meadowdaydream5165
    @meadowdaydream5165 Před 2 lety +1

    Sprout made a Mockery to Villains in My Little Pony. It's evident that G5 wanted a Villain but I think it was rather lazy to have a "Dictator" Earth Pony as a Villain. Seriously could of been 10x better if there was a Villain that intentionally removed magic, created conflict between Earth Ponies, Pegasus, and Unicorns. So that no one would oppose "Said Villain" It may sound generic as a MLP Plot device. But at least it would of been better. Instead of getting what was basically a Movie version of "G4's The Ending of the End Part 1"

    • @0deadx21
      @0deadx21 Před 2 lety

      He was not a villain, he was an *ANTAGONIST* You're stupid.

    • @toricallie7943
      @toricallie7943 Před 2 lety

      @@0deadx21 no cause they're right. Sprout was a mess

  • @Sly-Moose
    @Sly-Moose Před rokem

    Quick building tip tho. Candles make for a shorter I.e. cuter bar stool legs.

  • @brucegay9569
    @brucegay9569 Před 2 lety

    Or is it a comedy?

  • @theawsmnes5820
    @theawsmnes5820 Před rokem

    what even happened to sprouts dad lmao

  • @Sly-Moose
    @Sly-Moose Před rokem +1

    I've never felt bad for him. I hated his character and his actions, disregarding even earth ponies' safety like that. Tyrannic dictator. I didn't like either of them. And then Sprout ISN'T EVEN punished or arrested for his crimes?! That made me especially mad. I also hated how they colour-coded him to be red. Great choice their. That sure isn't symbolic. And then making Phyllis look like a Karen? 🤮 I hate it when politics enter my fave shows/games. 🙄

  • @SilverSpoonRiche
    @SilverSpoonRiche Před 2 lety +1

    Before we go any further I just want to say I currently have zero sympathy for Sprout as much as I have no sympathy for the type of people he represents. The only tragedy I can see is that Sprout never admitted wrong doing and even had the gaul to ask his mommy if he'd been a "good sheriff". And not only was he not punished for destruction of property and ATTEMPTED MURDER of Sunny and Izzy, his mommy didn't even have the fortitude to tell him "No, you were not a good sheriff.". In my opinion there are too many people just like Sprout IRL and they don't face consequences either. I think it's sending kids the wrong message that he faced ZERO consequences. I hate Sprout and ALL he represents. You're welcome to try and change my mind.

    • @hastiborhani3492
      @hastiborhani3492 Před 2 lety +1

      Completely agree,he's such a lazy written character

    • @SilverSpoonRiche
      @SilverSpoonRiche Před 2 lety +1

      @@hastiborhani3492 Now it's POSSIBLE they could be writing him like Trixie, presenting as an antagonist only to give him redeeming qualities later, only she REALLY did nothing wrong in her first appearance. Probably more like Diamond Tiara who was written as a sociopath for 4 seasons and then suddenly BAM she has feelings. But Diamond never destroyed property or tried to kill anyone. The closest to an angry mob she may have incited was the Gabby Gums incident where the entire town and Canterlot turned against the CMC for writing gossip columns for DT.
      But that's if I'm being VERY generous. Diamond was only trying to make her paper successful. It was never her intention to turn the CMC's own family against them.