Still hoping the TTYD remake outsells Origami King. EDIT: I don't actually hate Origami King; in fact, I enjoy it, despite its flaws. But I still prefer the gameplay and combat style of 64 and TTYD, and I'm willing to bet that the TTYD remake outselling TOK would mean to Nintendo that the old Paper Mario style is more profitable, hence we'd more likely get a brand new Paper Mario in 4 years (the series has had a new entry every 4 years since Sticker Star) that's like 64 and TTYD. Also, even if I did hate TOK, who cares? It's just a video game, not an actual person.
Dude I cannot get over how much I love this side channel content. First of all, numbers. Second of all, just zooming in on a bug on the desk. I could watch this content livestreamed 24/7.
@@dairok9446 I'm a bug enthusiast (entomology PhD student UK based). It's definitely a beetle. I'm unsure of where this is located and key ID features aren't present in the video so I can't ID the species or genus. But looks to me like a weevil (Curculionidae family) as it appears to have the distinctive snout from a certain camera angle and the general appearance. With over 400000 beetle species worldwide it's not that easy to know for sure though.
Yeah it was fun when I first discovered Arlo. His channel had already been out for a couple of years. Loved sitting down to watch a new-to-me video everyday. I think his Mario Rabbids review was the first video I watched, and what convinced me to buy that game (plus, the game + DK dlc happened to be on sale for like 15 bucks lol)
Some interesting context for TOTK sales: Botw 's lifetime sales of 33 million units took between six to seven years to achieve, Totk's current sales of 20 million took ONE year to achieve. Additionally, if you add up the sales of all previous 3d games and all previous 2D games, you get about 45 million for 5 3D games and about 49 million for 11 2D games. Botw and Totk, the two newest and youngest games have a collected sales total of around 54 million units for 2 games. Between the 2 games, Botw and Totk have collectively outsold the ENTIRE previous 3d catalogue combined and the ENTIRE 2d catalogue combined, and that's including remakes and remasters.
I'm hoping this has more to do with a heightened interest in the series from fans, since we're seeing other series take off more than they have in previous iterations. I want every 3d Zelda to do well like this, even if the world is smaller and the concept not as groundbreaking, so long as it retains the Nintendo seal of quality.
It's wild to me that OOT, one of those games that feels like a tentpole of everyone's childhoods, only sold like 5 million units, total. And that's counting later remakes. Weird.
12:17 I'd like to note that Red/Blue/Green's sales are not being inflated by "a million different versions". Remakes like Fire Red/Leaf Green and Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee are counted seperately.
@@vanishing_girl Actually, you're both kinda right. There are four gen 1 games, but only Red, Blue, and the Japanese only Green were counted together. Yellow was its own entry.
I am also a Xenoblade fan! Actually I am a Xeno fan in general and it kinda blows my mind how far the series has come. After Xenosaga 3, Takahashi was really depressed but it was Iwata who got him to continue the series and it finally worked out. I am really happy for Takahashi and making Xeno series successful was one of many great things Iwata did
Still wish Nintendo allowed Xenoblade on other platforms. Being stuck on switch limits it especially being a jrpg. A lot of Nintendo fans don’t care about the franchise and PS and PC have sizable jrpg fanbases.
@@jairekambui7738 I don't know, there's something special to me about Xenoblade now pretty much being Nintendo's premier RPG franchise. Also, Nintendo fully owns Monolith Soft, it isn't like RareWare, where Rare just felt so much like a Nintendo Studio, but it then became blatantly obvious they were just partners. Even then, if there's one massive JRPG series to be exclusive to Nintendo's platforms, I think it should be the one made by Monolith. With Nintendo's history of underpowered hardware, they might have never gotten any JRPGs on their system if it wasn't for Monolith. They're just getting so big these days, you almost need a PC. No one else's game can fit on Switch, but Monolith Soft is somehow able to make it work. Xenoblade 3 is such a massive game, even compared to the first two, and im left surprised it runs exceptionally well, let alone at all, on my little first edition switch. (And are you really gonna tell me that Pokemon deserves the title of "Nintendo's premier RPG franchise?" Nintendo doesn't even fully own Pokemon.)
Fire Emblem Three Houses is around 4million+ right now. It became the best selling SRPG of all time! FE Engage has about half of that I believe. Definitely smaller numbers but still good for that franchise. 2 million is around what Awakening sold too. Excellent numbers for a series that had never broken 1million before 2013.
I'm just really happy to see Forgotten Land do so well. Its been so long since we've seen a short big budget game that lets the gameplay speak for itself (instead of shoving in big action setpeices and a focus tested story).
The sheer volume of switch consoles is really high, but the software sales are just unheard of. I think this is proof that backwards compatibility is the smart move. People buy a Switch and then they keep buying games. And games that mostly stay at full price. These old games still being available shouldn't hurt new games if this trend continues. No other console has had this level of game sales.
@@tulip811 But that decidedly isn’t what is happening. Software sales are extremely high for this late in a lifecycle. The attach rate keeps going up. Clearly people aren’t just buying a few games when they buy the console and that’s it.
Good on you Pierre485! Thank you for putting this together and Thank you Arlo for putting out the video and shouting out their work. It's good to see Nintendo's Numbers.
Record game sales and they aren’t even closing down every single studio and developer just to get a bigger bonus . . . What are they even thinking over there at Nintendo
Remember folks! VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET! Let’s make TTYD Remake show a very clear signal that THIS KIND of game is what we want for the Paper Mario Series!
I'm VOTING WITH MY WALLET by not buying the game, Nintendo needs to know that dropping the framerate from 60 to 30 is not acceptable for an action game. (And it is an action game, combat revolves around a system literally called "Action Commands")
@@mjc0961It's tapping a button at the right time, as long as they adjust the frames it's no big deal. It's not like it's 30fps because they were lazy, it's 30 because the game is graphically incredible for its platform.
The amount of games that are insanely relevant with only 1-2 million sales makes Arlo's frustration with Pikmin's nearly 4 million really funny. Relax! Think about how Guilty Gear Strive is a beloved darling of a Fighting Game and that only JUST hit 1 million. Also Sega is my proof that releasing collections and greatest hits doesn't necessarily always mean "better sales for the mainline."
If Im not mistaken i think that bug is a masked hunter assassin bug, or reduvius personatus. Their nymphs secrete a thick adhesive mucous on their carapace, which collects dust, dirt, sand, and other debris. They have wings, but the carapace is glued shut until their mucous wears off. They're mostly harmless. The adults can bite, but apart from burning like the dickens, has never been known to cause actual harm. Their primary diet typically consistes of bedbugs, ticks, and other parasitic insects, though they can also go after flies, cockroaches, and mosquitos when they need to. According to the Washington State Department of Entomology theyre pretty rare around here. Native to the Missouri are I believe. In the Yakima-Ellensburg area where I live, they get reports once every several years. Personally I think theyre incredibly adorable.
@@Jakedoxey Thanks! One of the perks of being autistic. I love sharing information about things that excite me. Of course I'm not an entomologist, so I could always be mistaken. The masked hunter assassins are one of my very favorite insects. Had a couple of them a few years ago in my basement, and I absolutely fell in love. Thought they were spiders at first, which I also have a deep love for, but spiders have more legs and no antennae. The nymphs are adorable, but adults are ugly as sin though. The one on Arlo's desk seems to be in the late nymph/early adult stage. Right about the time they stop producing their mucous, shed their debris, and start flying. They can be really clumsy at this stage, which would explain why it dive bombed on the desk. The white schmutz on Arlo's desk was probably some dust that was knocked off of it on impact.
I'm being told by people who are ostensibly more educated than I, so I'm afraid I'll have to retract my guess. Apparently it's a weevil of some kind. I don't see it, but... Again, not an entomologist. The info dump about masked hunters is still valid though.
You’re forgetting that Mario branded games are fairly evergreen. Wonder was the fastest selling MAINLINE game in the series, and it only did 4.3 million in nearly a month. Princess peach showtime doing 1.22m in 10 days is fantastic.
Crazy to look back on sales data from the SNES era--data on games that felt generation-defining--and see just how little they sold by comparison. Well, in most cases.
One must also remember that some of those generation-defining games were made in like... a year at MOST by about ten people. The money it cost to make and which it needed to recover to make it a success, not to mention how there were just not as many console owners back then as there are now, changes all the calculations.
I love deep diving in the numbers and seeing all the things that are doing better then expected! Let's go to Luigi's Mansion for being a premiere game for the system; gonna become a full series once per console for sure!
I really wouldn't call TOTK 'the same game but better.' It borrows BOTW's structure, sure, and improves on some things. But ultimately it's a very different experience in a lot of ways, and a lot of us still prefer BOTW over TOTK despite the improvements like better dungeon visual variety and more enemy types etc. I think it'd be pretty foolish to assume 'I played TOTK so BOTW would have nothing to offer me.'
As someone who played both, I vastly prefer TotK's world, but vastly prefer BotW's design. BotW was just so much tighter and more intuitive on level and puzzle designs, and I didn't have to look up guides on nearly every single shrine because they all DEMAND that you be the kind of person who relentlessly cheesed every shrine in the previous game.
For the most part, I do think TOTK is BOTW but better. There are some small advantages like activating champion abilities, the memory system making a bit more sense for the story, having guardians, master mode, etc. But overall, TOTK has better and more shrines imo, better and more variety with dungeons and bosses, generally more activities to do in the world, better quests like the side adventures, more maps and caves, a crafting system, far more uses out of materials, better combat (thanks to more options via fuse and Ultrahand), the ability to repair weapons, more mechanics, amiibo costumes actually in the game and not amiibo, more things to get, craft a house, a sort-of party system with the champions helping you in actual battle, Ganondorf feeling heavily involved in the plot constantly and causing problems throughout the game, and a way better finale. But I do get that TOTK kinda forces the crafting, building and fusing into the design of the game. Although I think that makes it better and gives the game more depth and many more options, it also complicates it and assumes you vibe with that aspect of the game, and if you don’t, it can make some of the content feel worse or pointless (like a lot of the shrines that utilize building, or the depths that are highly focused on increasing your battery for creations or helping find the shrines in the first place via lightroots). Weapons are also weaker unless you utilize fusing due to the corruption. As such, I think it’s easier for TOTK to not be a players thing, even though it’s also the better game with more systems, content and depth and will make players who enjoy that stuff like it more. BOTW is simple and easy to get into. TOTK is not as much. You have to be into all of its systems, which if you are, it is easily seen as the better game imo, but also not as easily approachable. TOTK goes all out with its mechanics in a way that assumes you’ll like all of that, and while you can skip it as much as possible to enjoy it more your way if you don’t, that also means missing out on a lot of the content the game was designed for, and thus still may make the game feel lesser for those players. So overall, I think TOTK is better and that’s not hard to see why, but BOTW is a game more easily for everyone. More crafting in BOTW would be great, and that’s what TOTK delivered, but I’m sure some people wanted it in a way where you could just do it optionally like a lot of other games and not have the entire game be focused so heavily on it, design-wise. So even if TOTK is BOTW but better, what it’s better at isn’t necessarily for everyone, and thus your point that the games are different is also true. It’s nice actually that the games are so different, because they can’t replace each other. Many may like Majora’s Mask more than OoT and it may be the better game, but MM isn’t for everyone and can’t replace OoT either. Both have purpose existing at the same time…and that’s great.
I could write paragraph after paragraph, page after page on why I enjoy BOTW more than TOTK personally. But what I really want to focus on is this idea that 'TOTK is just BOTW but better so don't bother with BOTW.' For the sake of argument, I'm going to continue with the premise that TOTK is objectively an all around better game and there's no reason to prefer BOTW over it. I don't believe that. But I just want to explore this idea. Would Pikmin 2 or 3 being better than Pikmin 1 mean it's obsolete? Should Paper Mario TTYD mean the original Paper Mario is obselete and has nothing to offer? A sequel coming out that is a better version of the original does not and should not mean that the original suddenly has no value. Heck, one of the aspects I liked MOST about TOTK was getting to see the world again, see familiar faces. See Tarry Town blossoming, seeing Purah as the head of Kakariko Village, seeing Yunobo come into his own as the boss of a mining company etc. While you certainly CAN play TOTK without touching BOTW I feel like a big part of the experience would be missing. It's one of the aspects of TOTK that I enjoyed the most. Plus, even if someone thinks that the content of TOTK, the shrines, boss fights and dungeons etc, are better in TOTK...BOTW still has loads of its own content unique from TOTK. One being better does not mean the other is no longer worth experiencing. I like Majora's Mask more than OOT but I would never suggest MM makes OoT obsolete. I don't begrudge anyone for liking TOTK more than BOTW. But I feel like saying 'TOTK is just BOTW but better' does a disservice to BOTH games. To BOTW because I don't think all of TOTK's changes were straight up improvements and there are some things BOTW did better. And a disservice to TOTK because it denies TOTK's own distinct identity and what it does differently, by over exaggerating the similarities and downplaying what makes it unique.
Ask yourself this question: If Mario vs DK was priced at $30, could they sell twice as much? Because that's the argument that never gets brought up. You can't just say, "Oh, this FEELS like a budget title" because the sales have to back that up.
I for one would have probably bought it if it was cheaper...I think a lot other people too. People complaining about great Indie games being 20+, but THIS here is far more a problem.
Yeah, a game’s price is almost never measure of its quality or even how much was spent on it; the questions are always “how many people would be willing to buy it at this price?” and “how much money will that make me?”
I'm glad you made this channel. You are one of the only wholesome content creators out there. I watch plenty of more "growed-up" stuff on here, but sometimes I just need a good Arlo vid as a palette cleanser to wind down from life.
This sent me to Pierre's page and I spent a good amount of time last night looking through the numbers and talking about them with people, so thanks for bringing this to my attention!
...No? It was sold out on launch for weeks (I remember struggling to buy one), and Breath of the Wild was a killer app-most people didn't have a Wii U, so they had to buy a Switch to play (unless they wanted to pick up a last gen console that was very much dead already). Who were these "the Switch is DOA" people and what were they on about?
@@imperiallarch7610 you must not go onto forms very much if you missed it. it seemed every other gaming channel was saying it for years before release and a few months after. after release they where trying to justify their claims by over blowing minor issues or even making things up about the switch from it melting and bending in the dock to the kick stand not being able to hold it up
@@imperiallarch7610 y'know there was also talk before it released right? After the WiiU debacle people assumed the Switch was gonna be yet another failure and bankrupt them...
My partner very smartly pointed out that there is another common denominator between these best-selling open-world titles: they’re all on the Switch. Both Breath of the Wild and Odyssey were flagship, mainline titles in their series, released on one of Nintendo’s best-selling and most-accessible consoles ever made. It’s not necessarily that they’re open world that’s making them sell so well - it could easily just be the power of the Switch. Notably, I think, Wonder’s first two quarters outperformed Odyssey’s, even so late into the system’s life cycle. I think it’s too soon to call it for open worlds, even though I do like the open world games in these series.
I think that saying that Princess Peach Showtime shipping 1.7m is too little is a bit shortsighted. For one, it's not a holiday release. For two, it's only counting shipped, which I don't think counts download sales. And for three, that figure was within 10 days of its release, not an up to date number.
It is really insane how well the Switch has done. Basically every series got something, and often it was a major success. I really hope this sort of quality continues even if the Switch 2 probably won't be able to be as successful as the Switch's breakout domination.
My problem with Nintendo saying the BotW formula is it for Zelda moving forward is that they still make 2D Mario despite 3D Mario sales. I love BotW and TotK. But their is still a place for linear Zelda AND them.
I think this only works if Nintendo makes 2D Zelda the linear series and leaves 3D Zelda open air. Splitting the 3D team to try to make both titles will lead to open air Zeldas taking even longer and I'm sure no one wants that. They would have to create a dedicated 2D team to make it work.
@@LooseAsADEUCE I’d argue that making the 3D team do a linear 3D Zelda every once in a while would help prevent fatigue for open world Zelda. Edit: 2D should have its own team though. I agree.
Peach selling as much as it did is probably fine, I highly doubt it was more expensive than Xenoblade 2 or Xenoblade 3 which sold about 2-3 million each, and they were considered very profitable.
l think it doesnt entirely follow that the big games with new ideas have proven their superiority over the other games "just" because they sold incredibly well compared to them, because those other games didnt have the same circumstances. If they made a more galaxy-like open world mario for example and released that instead of odessey, would that have for sure sold worse..? l think a new zelda on the switch at a time where people were starving for a big new zelda game (botw was announced in 2014 remember) was going to sell BIG regardless of whether it shakes up the formula or not, especially with how many people have a switch. I'm not denying that part of the big salesnumber is people interested to see how the new take on the formula will play out, but l think it's too easy to say "This new game that changed things up sold incredibly well -> new gameplay style is superior to old gameplay style", although l guess it will be hard to get the genie back in the bottle cuz l guess people will perceive it as lazy/regressive if they were to go back to the old style immediately...
I loved BotW. Didn't enjoy TotK nearly as much, but still solid enough. I REALLY want Twilight Princess HD though, just beats out Wind Waker for my favorite non-BotW Zelda game.
I think you are right but also I think what he meant maybe (or at least my interpretation) is that Nintendo will see it and THEIR interpretation will be that it has to be open world.
Arlo's videos discussing the business side of games are always a hit with me, I just really enjoy seeing that side of things covered and he does it very well. I'm glad the TopicArlo channel has ensured more videos like this have a place!
The bug was cool! Cool bug, also yeah I do agree I want Pikmin 4 to eventually reach at least 5 Million but it is good to hear about it still getting significant sales overall that are adding up!
Topic Arlo is the Scott's Stash of Arlo content. Also, think you were a bit harsh on Peach. You've gotta factor in those numbers only counted the first 10 days. In 10 days, a million is big.
actually, it's very interesting to see that the sales numbers of OOT and MM are about the same on N64 and 3DS. I mean, yeah, a little bit less on 3DS, but still very close. To your point about the Open World/ Open Concept Zeldas like BOTW and TOTK being the way to go: i just hope that they are still in some way developing 2D zeldas (maybe give development over to smaller teams or retro themed studios). Minish Cap (GBA) and A Link Between Worlds (3DS) are still my favourite Zeldas. With a fleshed out dungeon builder, online features for speedrunds or challenges ect. there definitely would form a proper community around that.
I have a lot of bugs coming in from outside due to gaps in my door and holes around my foundation too, but they aren’t as cute as that little friend! I get those gross black ground beetles (which I bring back outside) and camel crickets (who I set traps for because I literally get so startled by them that I’ve had cardiac events and PNES episodes.) I do care about these numbers too but…that little bug, man. 🥺
For reference, despite the PS2 being the best-selling console of all time, every single one of the Switch's 10 best selling games have sold more than the best selling game on the PS2 (GTA: San Andreas, with 17.33 mil).
Man I would love to go back in time with all of this data and show this to people during the middle of the Wii U era where everyone thought Nintendo would go third party and Microsoft would buy them out. Boy how the tables have turned?!
1:28 I get what you mean, Arlo. But seeing it from Nintendos view, selling it at 30$ instead of 60$ would mean, they would need double the amount of sales for the same profit, and that seems kinda more risky.
As someone who just likes to hear you talk, this is a good channel. The first time I listened to you, I was mowing my side yard, and now whenever I mow my side yard, i get a hankering. Glad i dont have to mow without these days.
I thought single player games don’t sell? Isn’t that what some “Triple A” studios like to peddle about? Nintendo games are just on another level. I just wish their decisions outside of gaming wasn’t so weird and give some love to Zelda geez. Squandered the 35th anniversary. Make it up for the 40th.
TopicArlo should collab with Arlo I think they would get along well
Wait a minute.... Is TopicArlo just alternate reality Arlo???
Nah they would hate each other
@@mystraunt2705 They ARE sharing the same real estate…
Who’s Arlo?
I mean, we've never seen them in a room together at once... do you think...?
Thank you so much for the shout-out and positive feedback on the charts.
Glad you appreciate it :)
Thank you so much for your hard work and for sharing it with us!! It's really appreciated :D
Really amazing data. Thank you for these charts!
amazing work!!!
Dude, you made an amazing job here. Congrats 🎉
Still hoping the TTYD remake outsells Origami King.
EDIT: I don't actually hate Origami King; in fact, I enjoy it, despite its flaws.
But I still prefer the gameplay and combat style of 64 and TTYD, and I'm willing to bet that the TTYD remake outselling TOK would mean to Nintendo that the old Paper Mario style is more profitable, hence we'd more likely get a brand new Paper Mario in 4 years (the series has had a new entry every 4 years since Sticker Star) that's like 64 and TTYD.
Also, even if I did hate TOK, who cares? It's just a video game, not an actual person.
I’ll be buying 5 million copies myself
I’ll be shocked if it doesn’t.
I'm confident it will
I'm contributing to it
It will
Donkey Kong deserves his Odyssey/Forgotten Land moment, dang it.
Yes please! I would just a donkey kong game period at this point.
It's definitely coming.
It's probably coming.
It might be coming.
There's a chance its coming...
Right?
Yoshi: Am I a joke to you?
Maybe after Retro finishes Metroid Prime 4 lol.
So Tropical freeze?
That bug was just really excited about Pikmin 4 sales
Dude I cannot get over how much I love this side channel content. First of all, numbers. Second of all, just zooming in on a bug on the desk. I could watch this content livestreamed 24/7.
Topicarlo is truly a gift. The near daily videos of you just talking about random stuff is a nice thing to look forward to!
100% agree ♡
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@@Filon73 henlo!
Arlo interviewing bugs is something i didnt know i needed
Arlo talking to that bug was like maybe the cutest thing ever. So gentle 🥺
A very Pacific Northwest moment
Weevil time
Do we know what type of bug that is? Any bug enthusiast in the comments?
@@dairok9446 I'm a bug enthusiast (entomology PhD student UK based). It's definitely a beetle. I'm unsure of where this is located and key ID features aren't present in the video so I can't ID the species or genus. But looks to me like a weevil (Curculionidae family) as it appears to have the distinctive snout from a certain camera angle and the general appearance. With over 400000 beetle species worldwide it's not that easy to know for sure though.
@@jaimiebarnes3199actually my uncle is an entomologist and he says that its definitely 100% a shih-tzu, so youre wrong
Arlo showing his true love for Pikmin by talking to the lovely Bug gentlemen who landed on his desk in the middle of his video.
I mean. He did say eeewww a few times
Shout-out to Arlo somehow always posting when I sit down to eat so I have something to watch ❤
Yeah it was fun when I first discovered Arlo. His channel had already been out for a couple of years. Loved sitting down to watch a new-to-me video everyday. I think his Mario Rabbids review was the first video I watched, and what convinced me to buy that game (plus, the game + DK dlc happened to be on sale for like 15 bucks lol)
@@dawnrigel4255 yeahhh! That's awesome :)
Sameeeee
Interview of the century starts at 18:10
Some interesting context for TOTK sales:
Botw 's lifetime sales of 33 million units took between six to seven years to achieve, Totk's current sales of 20 million took ONE year to achieve.
Additionally, if you add up the sales of all previous 3d games and all previous 2D games, you get about 45 million for 5 3D games and about 49 million for 11 2D games. Botw and Totk, the two newest and youngest games have a collected sales total of around 54 million units for 2 games.
Between the 2 games, Botw and Totk have collectively outsold the ENTIRE previous 3d catalogue combined and the ENTIRE 2d catalogue combined, and that's including remakes and remasters.
It’s good to see Zelda doing well, even if I prefer the old games
But not both combined lol.
If they made a OoT remake on switch I think it would sell 10mil easy
I'm hoping this has more to do with a heightened interest in the series from fans, since we're seeing other series take off more than they have in previous iterations. I want every 3d Zelda to do well like this, even if the world is smaller and the concept not as groundbreaking, so long as it retains the Nintendo seal of quality.
It's wild to me that OOT, one of those games that feels like a tentpole of everyone's childhoods, only sold like 5 million units, total. And that's counting later remakes. Weird.
@@Descriptor413 I’m pretty sure it sold more than that 😂
Near 14 million
I'm just gonna assume this is your main channel now.
This is the bug's channel now
Really digging the surprise new cohost. He had a lot of insightful things to say.
It’s insane how almost every single Nintendo franchise has its best selling game on the Switch
the thing about pikmin 4 is that it's a pretty dang great success in japan alone, selling about 1.87 million copies over there
Japan carried it a lot yeah. In the west unfortunately it's still very niche
@@ausgod538 Yeah, there was a solid week where Pikmin 4 was outselling FF16 in Japan. Lol
(It was eventually overtaken, but it did happen)
@@Hey-Its-Dingo
Actually, Pikmin 4 is still outselling FF 16 in Japan by a landslide.
12:17 I'd like to note that Red/Blue/Green's sales are not being inflated by "a million different versions". Remakes like Fire Red/Leaf Green and Let's Go Pikachu/Eevee are counted seperately.
I think he means just iterations of the Gen I versions, since there are 4 as opposed to the normal 2-3.
@@jasond.b-w they're three? Red/Blue/Yellow?
@@vanishing_girl Actually, you're both kinda right. There are four gen 1 games, but only Red, Blue, and the Japanese only Green were counted together. Yellow was its own entry.
@@heroofflames3508 I'm taking it as my "win" then lol, the main point is there were 3 games
@@vanishing_girl You also got the games wrong, though.
The gaming industry as a whole isn't dying, it's just that those at the top at Microsoft, Sony etc. are allergic to making good decisions.
no they got footinmouth disease.
Not that Nintendo is making great decisions either. They make great games, not decisions.
Find the Xenoblade fan I guess, but I'm very happy that all 3 Xenoblade games on switch are in the console's top 50 best sellers, even if just barely.
Sorry, Xenoblade? What's that? This is TopicArlo, thats not a series we discuss here
I am also a Xenoblade fan! Actually I am a Xeno fan in general and it kinda blows my mind how far the series has come. After Xenosaga 3, Takahashi was really depressed but it was Iwata who got him to continue the series and it finally worked out. I am really happy for Takahashi and making Xeno series successful was one of many great things Iwata did
Still wish Nintendo allowed Xenoblade on other platforms. Being stuck on switch limits it especially being a jrpg. A lot of Nintendo fans don’t care about the franchise and PS and PC have sizable jrpg fanbases.
@@jairekambui7738 I don't know, there's something special to me about Xenoblade now pretty much being Nintendo's premier RPG franchise. Also, Nintendo fully owns Monolith Soft, it isn't like RareWare, where Rare just felt so much like a Nintendo Studio, but it then became blatantly obvious they were just partners.
Even then, if there's one massive JRPG series to be exclusive to Nintendo's platforms, I think it should be the one made by Monolith. With Nintendo's history of underpowered hardware, they might have never gotten any JRPGs on their system if it wasn't for Monolith. They're just getting so big these days, you almost need a PC. No one else's game can fit on Switch, but Monolith Soft is somehow able to make it work. Xenoblade 3 is such a massive game, even compared to the first two, and im left surprised it runs exceptionally well, let alone at all, on my little first edition switch.
(And are you really gonna tell me that Pokemon deserves the title of "Nintendo's premier RPG franchise?" Nintendo doesn't even fully own Pokemon.)
@@twincherries6698i forgot that nintendo fans dont play rpgs unless it has mario or pokemon in it
I’m so happy Pikmin 4 is at 3.3 million! Finally my favorite franchise is getting love
For every million sales pikmin 5 is one month closer!
@@mrjack3855*sets alarms for 2033
It'll be interesting to see what all happens with Pikmin next generation now that it's finally earnest it's spot at Nintendo's big kids table.
I hope they make another one! And I hope it’s the same but with more everything.
God that game is Zen incarnate
@@aquagrunty101 I hope we get a true sequel to 3. Pikmin 4 felt like a sequel to 2, like 3 was a sequel to 1. I want another more story driven game
I miss when you did this on the main channel. Really glad Topi Carlo exists.
Fire Emblem Three Houses is around 4million+ right now. It became the best selling SRPG of all time!
FE Engage has about half of that I believe. Definitely smaller numbers but still good for that franchise. 2 million is around what Awakening sold too.
Excellent numbers for a series that had never broken 1million before 2013.
Engage was also more of a veteran and anniversary focused game anyways. There was definitely different audiences they were aiming for.
18:35 can we normalize not filming people without their permission please? this is extremely rude Arlo, I expected more.
I'm just really happy to see Forgotten Land do so well. Its been so long since we've seen a short big budget game that lets the gameplay speak for itself (instead of shoving in big action setpeices and a focus tested story).
The sheer volume of switch consoles is really high, but the software sales are just unheard of. I think this is proof that backwards compatibility is the smart move. People buy a Switch and then they keep buying games. And games that mostly stay at full price. These old games still being available shouldn't hurt new games if this trend continues. No other console has had this level of game sales.
I think most people just bought the switch and 2,3 games for their children and that's it. Also because the games are expensive
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But that decidedly isn’t what is happening. Software sales are extremely high for this late in a lifecycle. The attach rate keeps going up. Clearly people aren’t just buying a few games when they buy the console and that’s it.
Arlo meetin the Weevil was a life highlight 18:58
Is that what it is?
Good on you Pierre485! Thank you for putting this together and Thank you Arlo for putting out the video and shouting out their work. It's good to see Nintendo's Numbers.
Record game sales and they aren’t even closing down every single studio and developer just to get a bigger bonus . . . What are they even thinking over there at Nintendo
You are the reason I love looking at these sales numbers and why I made the Switch Effect video! Thanks Arlo!
It’s amazing to see all these long running series become mega franchises on Switch
i've been loving this channel. I love hearing arlo talk about anything and love this channel where he gets to talk about WHATEVER he wants.
big fan of the casual air of TopicArlo. Also love the guest for this episode. He seemed shy but he really stole the show
When a Bug Fables bug lands on Arlo's desk.
Love those Legends Arceus numbers being practically tied with BDSP.
Remember folks! VOTE WITH YOUR WALLET! Let’s make TTYD Remake show a very clear signal that THIS KIND of game is what we want for the Paper Mario Series!
I'm VOTING WITH MY WALLET by not buying the game, Nintendo needs to know that dropping the framerate from 60 to 30 is not acceptable for an action game. (And it is an action game, combat revolves around a system literally called "Action Commands")
@@mjc0961Nobody cares 😯
@@mjc0961shhhhh
@@mjc0961It's tapping a button at the right time, as long as they adjust the frames it's no big deal. It's not like it's 30fps because they were lazy, it's 30 because the game is graphically incredible for its platform.
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Paper Mario is a TURN BASED RPG, not an Action Game.
Switch sales charts, Arlo's excited-ness, and guest appearance by a bug. Easily a top 10 Arlo video
The amount of games that are insanely relevant with only 1-2 million sales makes Arlo's frustration with Pikmin's nearly 4 million really funny.
Relax! Think about how Guilty Gear Strive is a beloved darling of a Fighting Game and that only JUST hit 1 million.
Also Sega is my proof that releasing collections and greatest hits doesn't necessarily always mean "better sales for the mainline."
GGS hit 2.5 million sales as of August 2023?
If Im not mistaken i think that bug is a masked hunter assassin bug, or reduvius personatus.
Their nymphs secrete a thick adhesive mucous on their carapace, which collects dust, dirt, sand, and other debris.
They have wings, but the carapace is glued shut until their mucous wears off.
They're mostly harmless. The adults can bite, but apart from burning like the dickens, has never been known to cause actual harm.
Their primary diet typically consistes of bedbugs, ticks, and other parasitic insects, though they can also go after flies, cockroaches, and mosquitos when they need to.
According to the Washington State Department of Entomology theyre pretty rare around here. Native to the Missouri are I believe.
In the Yakima-Ellensburg area where I live, they get reports once every several years.
Personally I think theyre incredibly adorable.
This has got to be the most informative youtube comment I have ever read. Thank you for your knowledge
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Thanks! One of the perks of being autistic. I love sharing information about things that excite me.
Of course I'm not an entomologist, so I could always be mistaken.
The masked hunter assassins are one of my very favorite insects. Had a couple of them a few years ago in my basement, and I absolutely fell in love.
Thought they were spiders at first, which I also have a deep love for, but spiders have more legs and no antennae.
The nymphs are adorable, but adults are ugly as sin though.
The one on Arlo's desk seems to be in the late nymph/early adult stage. Right about the time they stop producing their mucous, shed their debris, and start flying. They can be really clumsy at this stage, which would explain why it dive bombed on the desk.
The white schmutz on Arlo's desk was probably some dust that was knocked off of it on impact.
As an autistic, I could do the same this but for reptiles!
I'm being told by people who are ostensibly more educated than I, so I'm afraid I'll have to retract my guess.
Apparently it's a weevil of some kind.
I don't see it, but... Again, not an entomologist.
The info dump about masked hunters is still valid though.
@@alemirdiksonit certainly weevil esc in shape but I don’t see the shnozz. I’m not a big expert though
You’re forgetting that Mario branded games are fairly evergreen. Wonder was the fastest selling MAINLINE game in the series, and it only did 4.3 million in nearly a month. Princess peach showtime doing 1.22m in 10 days is fantastic.
These were my favourites videos on the main channel glad you still doing one
Crazy to look back on sales data from the SNES era--data on games that felt generation-defining--and see just how little they sold by comparison.
Well, in most cases.
Its crazy how far gaming has come
Makes those best selling games from back then even more a huge success actually...
One must also remember that some of those generation-defining games were made in like... a year at MOST by about ten people. The money it cost to make and which it needed to recover to make it a success, not to mention how there were just not as many console owners back then as there are now, changes all the calculations.
I love deep diving in the numbers and seeing all the things that are doing better then expected! Let's go to Luigi's Mansion for being a premiere game for the system; gonna become a full series once per console for sure!
*gasp* THE BUG WAS A WEEVIL
Also I am SO, SO happy to see Luigi's Mansion 3 and Kirby: Forgotten Land performing so well
I really wouldn't call TOTK 'the same game but better.' It borrows BOTW's structure, sure, and improves on some things. But ultimately it's a very different experience in a lot of ways, and a lot of us still prefer BOTW over TOTK despite the improvements like better dungeon visual variety and more enemy types etc.
I think it'd be pretty foolish to assume 'I played TOTK so BOTW would have nothing to offer me.'
As someone who played both, I vastly prefer TotK's world, but vastly prefer BotW's design. BotW was just so much tighter and more intuitive on level and puzzle designs, and I didn't have to look up guides on nearly every single shrine because they all DEMAND that you be the kind of person who relentlessly cheesed every shrine in the previous game.
For the most part, I do think TOTK is BOTW but better. There are some small advantages like activating champion abilities, the memory system making a bit more sense for the story, having guardians, master mode, etc.
But overall, TOTK has better and more shrines imo, better and more variety with dungeons and bosses, generally more activities to do in the world, better quests like the side adventures, more maps and caves, a crafting system, far more uses out of materials, better combat (thanks to more options via fuse and Ultrahand), the ability to repair weapons, more mechanics, amiibo costumes actually in the game and not amiibo, more things to get, craft a house, a sort-of party system with the champions helping you in actual battle, Ganondorf feeling heavily involved in the plot constantly and causing problems throughout the game, and a way better finale.
But I do get that TOTK kinda forces the crafting, building and fusing into the design of the game. Although I think that makes it better and gives the game more depth and many more options, it also complicates it and assumes you vibe with that aspect of the game, and if you don’t, it can make some of the content feel worse or pointless (like a lot of the shrines that utilize building, or the depths that are highly focused on increasing your battery for creations or helping find the shrines in the first place via lightroots). Weapons are also weaker unless you utilize fusing due to the corruption. As such, I think it’s easier for TOTK to not be a players thing, even though it’s also the better game with more systems, content and depth and will make players who enjoy that stuff like it more.
BOTW is simple and easy to get into. TOTK is not as much. You have to be into all of its systems, which if you are, it is easily seen as the better game imo, but also not as easily approachable. TOTK goes all out with its mechanics in a way that assumes you’ll like all of that, and while you can skip it as much as possible to enjoy it more your way if you don’t, that also means missing out on a lot of the content the game was designed for, and thus still may make the game feel lesser for those players.
So overall, I think TOTK is better and that’s not hard to see why, but BOTW is a game more easily for everyone. More crafting in BOTW would be great, and that’s what TOTK delivered, but I’m sure some people wanted it in a way where you could just do it optionally like a lot of other games and not have the entire game be focused so heavily on it, design-wise.
So even if TOTK is BOTW but better, what it’s better at isn’t necessarily for everyone, and thus your point that the games are different is also true. It’s nice actually that the games are so different, because they can’t replace each other. Many may like Majora’s Mask more than OoT and it may be the better game, but MM isn’t for everyone and can’t replace OoT either. Both have purpose existing at the same time…and that’s great.
Yea, I prefer botw by a mile
I could write paragraph after paragraph, page after page on why I enjoy BOTW more than TOTK personally. But what I really want to focus on is this idea that 'TOTK is just BOTW but better so don't bother with BOTW.'
For the sake of argument, I'm going to continue with the premise that TOTK is objectively an all around better game and there's no reason to prefer BOTW over it. I don't believe that. But I just want to explore this idea.
Would Pikmin 2 or 3 being better than Pikmin 1 mean it's obsolete? Should Paper Mario TTYD mean the original Paper Mario is obselete and has nothing to offer?
A sequel coming out that is a better version of the original does not and should not mean that the original suddenly has no value. Heck, one of the aspects I liked MOST about TOTK was getting to see the world again, see familiar faces. See Tarry Town blossoming, seeing Purah as the head of Kakariko Village, seeing Yunobo come into his own as the boss of a mining company etc. While you certainly CAN play TOTK without touching BOTW I feel like a big part of the experience would be missing. It's one of the aspects of TOTK that I enjoyed the most.
Plus, even if someone thinks that the content of TOTK, the shrines, boss fights and dungeons etc, are better in TOTK...BOTW still has loads of its own content unique from TOTK. One being better does not mean the other is no longer worth experiencing. I like Majora's Mask more than OOT but I would never suggest MM makes OoT obsolete.
I don't begrudge anyone for liking TOTK more than BOTW. But I feel like saying 'TOTK is just BOTW but better' does a disservice to BOTH games. To BOTW because I don't think all of TOTK's changes were straight up improvements and there are some things BOTW did better. And a disservice to TOTK because it denies TOTK's own distinct identity and what it does differently, by over exaggerating the similarities and downplaying what makes it unique.
TopicArlo was a great idea! I think this format is most suited to your style and interests. Keep it up, i listen to them all!
Ask yourself this question: If Mario vs DK was priced at $30, could they sell twice as much? Because that's the argument that never gets brought up. You can't just say, "Oh, this FEELS like a budget title" because the sales have to back that up.
I for one would have probably bought it if it was cheaper...I think a lot other people too. People complaining about great Indie games being 20+, but THIS here is far more a problem.
Yeah, a game’s price is almost never measure of its quality or even how much was spent on it; the questions are always “how many people would be willing to buy it at this price?” and “how much money will that make me?”
I know I would've considered buying it if it was at 30$
Gonna need an update on that bug.
I'm glad you made this channel. You are one of the only wholesome content creators out there. I watch plenty of more "growed-up" stuff on here, but sometimes I just need a good Arlo vid as a palette cleanser to wind down from life.
Butternut Squash? Yes Please!
Thank you for reminding me of this🤣🤣
This sent me to Pierre's page and I spent a good amount of time last night looking through the numbers and talking about them with people, so thanks for bringing this to my attention!
Remember when everyone was saying the switch was DoA and the end of Nintendo?
Yes. The "Nintablet" was a saying.
...No? It was sold out on launch for weeks (I remember struggling to buy one), and Breath of the Wild was a killer app-most people didn't have a Wii U, so they had to buy a Switch to play (unless they wanted to pick up a last gen console that was very much dead already). Who were these "the Switch is DOA" people and what were they on about?
@@imperiallarch7610 you must not go onto forms very much if you missed it. it seemed every other gaming channel was saying it for years before release and a few months after. after release they where trying to justify their claims by over blowing minor issues or even making things up about the switch from it melting and bending in the dock to the kick stand not being able to hold it up
@@imperiallarch7610 y'know there was also talk before it released right? After the WiiU debacle people assumed the Switch was gonna be yet another failure and bankrupt them...
Nintendois dying, when will they announce the NX
My partner very smartly pointed out that there is another common denominator between these best-selling open-world titles: they’re all on the Switch. Both Breath of the Wild and Odyssey were flagship, mainline titles in their series, released on one of Nintendo’s best-selling and most-accessible consoles ever made. It’s not necessarily that they’re open world that’s making them sell so well - it could easily just be the power of the Switch. Notably, I think, Wonder’s first two quarters outperformed Odyssey’s, even so late into the system’s life cycle. I think it’s too soon to call it for open worlds, even though I do like the open world games in these series.
I think that saying that Princess Peach Showtime shipping 1.7m is too little is a bit shortsighted. For one, it's not a holiday release. For two, it's only counting shipped, which I don't think counts download sales. And for three, that figure was within 10 days of its release, not an up to date number.
It is really insane how well the Switch has done. Basically every series got something, and often it was a major success. I really hope this sort of quality continues even if the Switch 2 probably won't be able to be as successful as the Switch's breakout domination.
That bug interruption was adorbs and makes arlo a certified pikmin lover
Only on TopicArlo do we get 1 on 1 interviews with bugs mid-video
i think you need to account for how the fanbase of Nintendo games have grown more. Especially for zelda since botw
That bug will be in Pikmin 5. Mark my words.
Numbers are cool always loved numbers, I also love knowing about sales numbers
Pokémon games sales usually drop off completely when a new gen comes out but swsh is different for some reason it’s impressive
I think the negative publicity around S/V sent some people to Sw/Sh, which, for all their faults, at least run better than S/V.
23 minute Arlo? lets a fucking go
My problem with Nintendo saying the BotW formula is it for Zelda moving forward is that they still make 2D Mario despite 3D Mario sales.
I love BotW and TotK. But their is still a place for linear Zelda AND them.
I think this only works if Nintendo makes 2D Zelda the linear series and leaves 3D Zelda open air. Splitting the 3D team to try to make both titles will lead to open air Zeldas taking even longer and I'm sure no one wants that. They would have to create a dedicated 2D team to make it work.
@@LooseAsADEUCE I’d argue that making the 3D team do a linear 3D Zelda every once in a while would help prevent fatigue for open world Zelda.
Edit: 2D should have its own team though. I agree.
Edit: I wanna see how well a Daisy games does!
These are honestly my favorite kinds of videos. I love how you analyze them!
Peach selling as much as it did is probably fine, I highly doubt it was more expensive than Xenoblade 2 or Xenoblade 3 which sold about 2-3 million each, and they were considered very profitable.
An Arlo video to listen to while finishing up work?! A gift
So glad to see Animal Crossing become a tentpole series. Now we just need that for Metroid.
l think it doesnt entirely follow that the big games with new ideas have proven their superiority over the other games "just" because they sold incredibly well compared to them, because those other games didnt have the same circumstances. If they made a more galaxy-like open world mario for example and released that instead of odessey, would that have for sure sold worse..?
l think a new zelda on the switch at a time where people were starving for a big new zelda game (botw was announced in 2014 remember) was going to sell BIG regardless of whether it shakes up the formula or not, especially with how many people have a switch. I'm not denying that part of the big salesnumber is people interested to see how the new take on the formula will play out, but l think it's too easy to say "This new game that changed things up sold incredibly well -> new gameplay style is superior to old gameplay style", although l guess it will be hard to get the genie back in the bottle cuz l guess people will perceive it as lazy/regressive if they were to go back to the old style immediately...
I loved BotW. Didn't enjoy TotK nearly as much, but still solid enough. I REALLY want Twilight Princess HD though, just beats out Wind Waker for my favorite non-BotW Zelda game.
I think you are right but also I think what he meant maybe (or at least my interpretation) is that Nintendo will see it and THEIR interpretation will be that it has to be open world.
Superstars doing worse than Super Mario Party is upsetting since the former is soooo much better than the ladder
15 million sales of Ring Fit Adventure was somehow way higher than I expected too, wow
Excited for more from Arlo’s newest series: “Arlo talks to weird bugs”
I love these sit and chat videos! So awesome!
Arlo reads this like a disappointed but encouraging parent going over a report card
Love this number stuff. It really lifts (or crushes) my spirit to see a newer title selling much more (or less) than previous ones.
Nintendo didnt just catch lightning in a bottle with the Switch, they caught Zeus’s Thunderbolt in a bottle.
MIITOPIA SITTING WITH THE BIG GUYS AT THE BIG BOY 1 MILLION TABLE YEEEEAAAAHHH
Ah yes, the forbidden sequel to Hey! Pikmin, "Oh! Pikmin"
Wish you would’ve mentioned the insane success of ring for adventure!!!!
Arlo's videos discussing the business side of games are always a hit with me, I just really enjoy seeing that side of things covered and he does it very well. I'm glad the TopicArlo channel has ensured more videos like this have a place!
The bug was cool! Cool bug, also yeah I do agree I want Pikmin 4 to eventually reach at least 5 Million but it is good to hear about it still getting significant sales overall that are adding up!
Came for the data, stayed for the bug.
Topic Arlo is the Scott's Stash of Arlo content.
Also, think you were a bit harsh on Peach. You've gotta factor in those numbers only counted the first 10 days. In 10 days, a million is big.
actually, it's very interesting to see that the sales numbers of OOT and MM are about the same on N64 and 3DS. I mean, yeah, a little bit less on 3DS, but still very close.
To your point about the Open World/ Open Concept Zeldas like BOTW and TOTK being the way to go: i just hope that they are still in some way developing 2D zeldas (maybe give development over to smaller teams or retro themed studios). Minish Cap (GBA) and A Link Between Worlds (3DS) are still my favourite Zeldas. With a fleshed out dungeon builder, online features for speedrunds or challenges ect. there definitely would form a proper community around that.
I have a lot of bugs coming in from outside due to gaps in my door and holes around my foundation too, but they aren’t as cute as that little friend! I get those gross black ground beetles (which I bring back outside) and camel crickets (who I set traps for because I literally get so startled by them that I’ve had cardiac events and PNES episodes.)
I do care about these numbers too but…that little bug, man. 🥺
Most people who got SV don’t care how it runs they bought it for it’s personality
For reference, despite the PS2 being the best-selling console of all time, every single one of the Switch's 10 best selling games have sold more than the best selling game on the PS2 (GTA: San Andreas, with 17.33 mil).
Warms my heart to see huge creators like The Bug making guest appearances on other channels
Man I would love to go back in time with all of this data and show this to people during the middle of the Wii U era where everyone thought Nintendo would go third party and Microsoft would buy them out. Boy how the tables have turned?!
67 first party million+ sellers is crazy, and 21 of those are 10 million+ sellers?!
It's claji (Japanese crazy). It's GIGANTIC
When Arlo said "Ew what is that?" I just knew it had to be acorn weevil before even clicking over to the video
67 first party games selling over 1 million..... That really shows how hard Sony and Xbox have fumbled the bag.
I think our little bug friend is a type of insect called a weevil
Arlo needs to do more collabs with the bug
1:28 I get what you mean, Arlo. But seeing it from Nintendos view, selling it at 30$ instead of 60$ would mean, they would need double the amount of sales for the same profit, and that seems kinda more risky.
loved this video talking about the sales!! :)
Thanks to you and Scott the Woz for posting stuff I can watch as I feed my new baby at 2 AM. ❤️
Arlo, I opened my local game shops website and bought Pikmin 4 during this video. Just for you. (and for me, really.😊)
As someone who just likes to hear you talk, this is a good channel. The first time I listened to you, I was mowing my side yard, and now whenever I mow my side yard, i get a hankering. Glad i dont have to mow without these days.
I thought single player games don’t sell? Isn’t that what some “Triple A” studios like to peddle about? Nintendo games are just on another level. I just wish their decisions outside of gaming wasn’t so weird and give some love to Zelda geez. Squandered the 35th anniversary. Make it up for the 40th.