The SAFEST EMERGENCY HEAT DIY 1LB Propane Tank Refill Method
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- čas přidán 11. 07. 2024
- Panic buying will strip these off the shelves first. THIS IS THE SAFEST METHOD of Refilling 1LB Propane Tanks. If you’re like me and you do any kind of outdoor camping, hiking, or have emergency heat set aside for winter power outages, you’ll be getting gouged by the cost of the small 1lb propane tanks. Learn how to refill your 1lb propane tanks for pennies on the dollar.
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📘 Chapters 📘
0:00 Intro
0:47 Safety Risk of Disposable Tank
1:50 The Safe Refillable Tanks
3:13 Fill Refillable Tank
6:18 Safety Rules
8:00 Disposable Tank Refill Steps
9:18 Conclusion and Other Considerations
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After refilling a 1 pounder , I put a piece of masking tape on the cylinder . Date refilled and the number of refills . I don't typically refill more than 5 times. Empty cylinders are kept in a very dry place until needed. All the best.
Nice, like the thought. Could use the tape to secure the screw wrench for the canister too!
just use a 20lb to 1 lb adapter hose and forget these tiny tanks
Definitely superior option if you don't need the portability of the smaller one
@@manletopia4801. lol, do you have the space for the 20 lb in your car? Because I don’t so forget about the 20 lbs one.🙄
I appreciate this follow-up to your recent video about refilling disposable canisters, which I have heard can be dangerous. This seems like a better, safer approach.
You bet! Over time there are risks with the disposable
To not lose the allen wrench, I drill two holes through the plastic refilable tank covers slightly smaller than the allen wrench ( while off the tank of course) about an inch apart and insert the wrench. This holds them nicely till the next use and is aways with the tank.
Awesome idea!!
This is a great follow-up video. I know that everyone else already said it, but I know that propane and other liquid fuels can be SUPER dangerous and I'm very grateful that you pointed out these SAFE alternatives to the one-and-done green propane cans. I've got the refill kit and a couple cans coming from Amazon already and I just want to say that if this video saves one person from getting hurt or killed then you've done your best. "You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink." LOL Keep up the great videos, brother.
Thank you!
These Flame King propane tanks are what I use and I refill them with this rig. I glued a magnet to the green plastic base, which holds the wrench in place between uses. Here in the SF Bay Area, Sports Basement exchanges these for free if you're a member of their loyalty program. For me the convenience of filling them myself is more valuable than "free", though.
Nice! Great idea with the magnet
Thank you very much for this and yes, please keep making more diy videos. They are very helpful. 💜💜☮️
You got it!
Thanks!
No problem! Thanks for watching
Thank you so much for the information, I never thought you can do that. Learned a lot. Appreciate
Thank you, this was very helpful and informative.
Awesome, thank you!
Nice follow up vid....Glad you shared the update on filling the 1lb containers...I smelled ("Smoke before Fire") and purchased a couple before the initial Virus got a foothold on things...Yes the Containers were MUCH cheaper 3 years back...I kept them in a cheap Styrofoam Cooler out back in a tool shed to keep the temps as consistent as possible...Hope I never have to really use them, but they are availble if needed....I like the new Canisters and Propane refill attachement you demonstrate here....Also consider doing a review on an adapterr/attachement that can go on the 1lb tank to attache a small Pocket stove like the ones used on the small pocket camping stove fuel canisters....Stay Practical.
you bet, noted the vid idea. Thanks Felix
I just purchased the flame king canisters and filler and it’s great. I probably won’t try to refill the regular canisters much as it just doesn’t feel as safe. Thanks showing!
You bet. Thanks for stopping by
Outstanding....
Thank You!
Thank you!
Good vid, Thank you for the info !
You bet! Be safe, use refillables if you can
I'm glad you listened to my advice good job.
Few folks wanted to see it glad I could get it out this week! Thank you
Great info!
Glad it was helpful!
I needes this, thank you!!
Glad it was helpful!
Thank you for the information.
Any time!
👍👍Good job! Thank you!
Thank you too!
Very good advice the reusable cylinder look like the best way to go i have been a firefighter for 30 years and have seen the little disposable tanks fail more then once and it only takes one spark to set them off when they leek they go off like a bomb in a fire store them outside in a well ventilated place just like you said i will be getting several refillable ones good video
Agreed, definitely the way to go if you plan to refill often!
I actually filled up ~20 of the 1lb disposable tanks today. I mark on the bottle how many times they’ve been filled. 8 times on all these ones. After filling, I use a brass cap with a rubber gasket. My connector to fill has a hose, valve, etc.
The Flame King has the advantage in purging for sure. They’re likely more robust too. The valves on my disposables are still working, but one has developed a leak, so you do need to monitor them. Highly recommend the brass caps.
Also, most definitely use good gloves. I once had a small leak and had a drop or two go through the gloves I had on. My skin turned all white instantly. Luckily no harm done, but propane will do that.
I like this idea
Best setup I have for the small propane tanks so far
And yes please do a video on the new mr heater canister you referred to
Will add it to the list thank you
Great videos. Thank you! Would love to see the refillable tank that you mention at 9:30 and has the easier to use ring vs the set screw.
Will do!
Thank you for this video, for noting PPE, and the safety issues..
The Mr. Heater Fuel Kegs that you mention at the end of this video are nice. You do not have to worry about Allen wrench tool. The 1/4 turn ring has a interlock that prevents if from venting when it is not connected to the filler. They have a visible pressure relief valve. I am not sure how the Flame King relief valve works.
Ebay/Amazon sells brass caps to go on any of these tanks and it is good to use them.
You might want to double check, but I do not believe the Flame King alignment pin does much other than to keep a person from using the filler on disposable tanks. I saw somewhere where Flame King said that the filler would work even if that pin gets broken off. Flame King also has a repair kit for the O-ring and plastic ring that holds the O-ring in.
Awesome! Thanks for these nuggets
In the UK propane is for use outdoors, butane indoors.
The reason why is butane falls so if in the house if your upstairs the gas will find its way out lower down.
To get a better fill, freeze the receiver bottle first. this makes the warmer gas condense quicker (liquefy in the new tank).
Great add, thanks for sharing. Always interested to see how my friends across the pond do things
Great video. Some CZcams videos show that you should put the one pounders in a freezer for a period of time before you fill them up. Something having to do with temperature difference. Your thoughts on this please?
Knowing how todo something like this, is crucial! Much appreciated!
More you know! Thank you
There is a pressure valve on the top of the disposable bottles to alleviate pressure while filling.
On the side right? Those tend to get stuck open for some
I have been thinking about buying this kit, I am an airsoft player and this would save me a lot of money
That it would, good thinking
Thank you doing this video. I just tried to refill mine yesterday, but for the life of me I couldn't figure it out. I went on the flame king website, it left me more confused.
Does your 20lb tank have any propane? Sounds silly but it happens. If you followed the steps this should work
The universal cheapo valve saved my ass last year. I kept stealing my bbq tank to fill a bunch at a time. Me and my fake buddy heater dynaglo 😂 later added a small USB fan to get me and my shed nice and warm.
You'd probably love the refillable versions
Some of this comment is a re-run from the first 'refill vid' you made. Yes, this is definitely a much safer--and efficient--way of refilling one pound cans. YES--make sure you have heavy gloves on as liquid propane can freeze you skin faster than you can say, "Jack Robinson" and it HURTS! However, in the prepping community I'll just bet that there's about a million of the standard little green bottles floating around. The best way to run, say, a Buddy heater is to connect it to a 15, 18, or 20# tank via a hose and run it for a few days. If not, then the little one pound bottles. If a store-bought bottle lasts for say four hours and a partial lasts for three, then just take it and refill it. It only takes a few minutes to fill one to maybe 65% and then get on with it. Tinkering with the Schrader valve or trying to release the rest of the gas from an 'empty' is risky business. The valve--any valve--needs to be monkeyed with as few times as possible, especially if it is the self-sealing type.
I have been refilling the little green bottles for years. Some I have refilled maybe a dozen times. Only once did I have a bottle not want to re-seal after filling. I simply used that bottle immediately in the camp stove (problem solved) and tossed it afterwards. I don't monkey with the Schrader valve at all. Not worth it. And yes, did I mention heavy gloves? Good vid as usual.
Awesome write up. Thanks for sharing this Pennington
If you decide to test the FuelKeg, make sure to get the fill kit too. The FuelKeg has a proprietary fill design.
You bet, thanks for noting that
I have the Flame King refillable ones, have seen videos of the others even blowing up. Spend the money for safety and piece of mind, when you use them as much as I do they pay for themselves.
I've used the officially refillable canister for about 8 years.
Multi-use: 1) BBQ 2) Camp Stove 3) Maybe buy a gas buddy for heat
I get it refilled at a gasoline station that offers refill service (they give me a different refill canister each time.
The canister itself cost me about $16 dollars which gives me a refill capability
But the cost of refilling just went up to about $5, which is about the same price as buying a disposable.
I don't use enough to justify to buy a 20 pounder
Plus, after a few years, they are no longer certified for use, and you need to dispose of them
I think most will probably be in a similar boat as you. At least when considering these ideas for emergency heat. Thanks for watching!
@@PracticalPreparedness From a risk management perspective, I don't like refilling disposables. They call LNG carrier ships "The poor man's nuclear bomb" for good reason.
Definitely safer options, thanks for calling it out
Propane has a boiling point of -44° F (-42° C) at atmospheric pressure. Generally, propane pressure should be between 100 and 200 psi to ensure that the liquid propane gas remains in a liquid state. Normally, the pressure inside a propane tank fluctuates slightly based on the outside temperature. Proper fill of a propane tank is weight. There should be an air gap after filing for expansion due to temperature rise. If the cylinder gets hot the liquid propane will expand into this air gap. The heating of liquid propane will burst it's vessel without this air gap.
It looks like the refillable canisters have a fixed liquid level drip tube inside from the bleed valve to the desired level of the liquid propane. This allows the bleed valve to blow off the gas which will turn to liquid when the tank is full.
Thank you for sharing this!
I recommend everyone pick up a hot tent and a mini wood stove. Especially if you live in an area where wood is readily available.
Great options to have!
$35 for the refillable bottles (2) on Amazon. I like having the disposable bottles on hand. I’m okay with them not filling all the way….like you said, we’re going to do what we’re going to do. They wouldn’t be able to sell the disposable bottles if they weren’t safe. I’ll do the extra step of looking for leaky bottles.
Please keep an eye on swelling/corrosion too of course. Thanks for watching
Sound safety advice.
Appreciate that
Good instruction bud. I wonder how 'the man' would be able to tell if a 1lb'r has been refilled?
I remove the label on the ones refilled easily identify which are new and which have been refilled.
Hey, great video, but do you have to have the flame king filling adapter to fill flame king 1lb tanks
I think it would work without, thinking that black plastic piece is only to ensure FK canisters are connected. Haven't tried though..
Can these refillable bottles be filled with the same adapter that I have been using for the single use bottles?
The Flame King valve can be used to refill the disposable Coleman tanks. There is a little plastic nib that normally prevents the Coleman tanks from being refilled. All you have to do is cut/remove the little plastic nib and it works great. This is contrary to the manufacturer's intent, but it still works great. It has been several years since I did mine, but I do know that it works. It is very important NOT to attempt to fully refill the disposable Coleman tanks. Better to half-fill them and be safe. But the Flame King valve is far superior to the simple Harbor Freight valve!
Didn’t think of this! I like the flame king too
Glad you found it useful. I hope it helps a lot of others also! All the best.
If one has the kit, I'd still recommend just using the refillables, but excellent to know this
I invested in the proper kit and 2 extra cylinders. Much safer and very convenient too.😊
They used to send out those canisters with the wrong size Allen wrench, it was too small a size and in my opinion, would strip out with time or forced use.
I replaced the wrench it came with, with the next size bigger and it was a snug fit.
Maybe by now they've fixed the problem
Thanks for doing a video on the refillable tanks I posted on your comments. It will keep people safer
No problem 👍
I'm glad you did a follow-up video. I have the Flame King and find it very helpful. I like the mix of info and DYI videos. This is one of my favorite channels.
Tom! Been a while. Thanks for stopping in
Put the 1 pound in the freezer prior to filling and keep your tools off of the valve. It will last longer and fill more than a warm one without the purge.
Thanks for the share
YOU ARE A GREAT TEACHER! KEEP TEACHING AND HELPING PEOPLE! GREAT JOB! THANKS FOR THE DETAILS!
Thanks, will do! Appreciate that
Wonderful, thanks! How many times can you refill the bright neon green 'refillable' tanks before they wear out? Or since yours might be too new to know, can others give feedback? 100? 1000? 10,000?
I have not come across a number. The tank should have no problem indefinitely, but the valve would eventually give out at some point I’d imagine after many many uses
No bubbles no troubles😁 that's what I was taught
Great method to check for leaks
Also, there are adapters for everything, so if you don't want to refill these you can power the 1bl stuff directly from a 20lb tank. Even if you don't want to refill, but you know someone who will need to, this stuff is indispensable during an emergency and it's MONEY during shtf.
💯
Thanks Utah Mike
I didn’t hear if you mentioned that the refillable cylinders are by Flame King.
They are! I do towards l the end believe
My New Year's resolution is to get Amazon -free this year, or at least mostly so. So just letting you all know, these are available at a lot of places; I bought mine from Home Depot.
👍
Thanks cbass
I have a question; do you use a filter after refilling the canisters?
I do not, no
are the links in your description paid affiliate links? If not, they should be. If they are i will bookmark you and use them when i need said things like new cans.
Nice, we use the system at sea to refill from 13 Kg to 3 to 5 Kg.
Way chipper!
My question is in relation with SHTF, it happened a lot through history:
How not to be deported? It's a serious question.
I’m not sure what you mean by the question? Appreciate the kind words
@@PracticalPreparednessya. I was thinking the same thing.
@@PracticalPreparedness nothing in particular, i'm 55 and since i'm born, i have Seen a lot of déportations and mass massacres in continental Europe ( Ethnic cleaning, religion War, political war)
country implication : Ireland, ex Yougoslavia, Armenia, Ukraine) also all around the World like Rwanda.
What i fear is the exact same scenario in central Europe or in North America juste before SHTF. When it happens to you, it's SHTF.
The question is : How to prepper in case of these kind of scénario ?
Real nice question.
I see, you're worried about mass deportation. I can tell you, I won't be going anywhere. That is likely a death sentence depending on the circumstances...
@@PracticalPreparedness Thank you. No way to escape.
Just my luck. A couple of years ago, I got interested in those clay pot and tealight heaters, bought all the materials, and then discovered how dangerous they are, so I scrapped that idea. Now, after I finally have enough empty 1 lb. cylinders and the refill adapters, I find out that refilling them is not only dangerous but illegal in many states too!!! What's next? Are we going to be told that the expiration dates on canned foods are hard and fast rules? Lol
You should be good to refill the refillable tank I showed in the vid I hope!
@PracticalPreparedness Actually, I came across the refillable tanks and the whole story a couple of days ago while looking through my Amazon account. Right now now Amazon rome has a bunfle of 2 refillable bottles fo $35. Plus another consisting of the the 2 bottles, the 20 lb. canister stand, like you are showing and an adapter for $105.
Thanks
Nice, Yea the 30-40$ kit should have the 1#er and the filler kit too
Where is the link for these new tanks ?
In the video description if you're interested
Everyone should have at least one pair of leather gloves for working n handling hot stuff
It’s a great point
Absolutely! I have a pair in each car's trunk, in my "go" bag, and in several tool kits in the garage.
A tip on where to get more 1 lb bottles. dumpster dive at state and us parks. Ive got about 100 cansters.
Great idea!
@@PracticalPreparedness I filled a couple of the Coleman bottles before never had a problem but I understand what you're saying. I was totally unaware of the refillable 1 pounders. I'm going to do an investment and get me about 6 to 8 of them and transition to those.
I've got a few. Might add another pair here soon
I use Windex. Much more convenient than soap and water.
For the leak check at the end? Hadn’t tried this, thank you
@@PracticalPreparedness Yes, I use Windex to check for leaks on the bottles I refill. Also on tires to find slow leaks.
Never thought to use windex
See , this time I couldn't goof on you, you went pro, that's how it's done, and you are a lot safer.
You bet
Question?
I;ve been searching around for the answer, but nobody talks about it.
I was told that the 'stink' that is IN/ ADDED to a propane liquid, is also a liquid that sits on the bottom of a propane tank. The more you refill those 20#ers, the more liquid 'stink' is in them.??? Then, when you turn the 20#ers upside down, you COULD actually fill those one pounders with nothing but that added 'stink' chemical? YES? NO?
lol,,, a friend told me this,,, he said he actually ruined some T-bone steaks while using a 20# BBQ tank upside down?
I agree that refilling those green disposable 1# cylinders is dangerous but filling them only partially doesn't make them any safer. Once the cylinder is filled to the point here a liquid is created, any further filling will not increase the internal pressure. Internal pressure ill remain constant no matter how full it is. Simple physics.
I have about 70-80 of these I refill and weigh out .
I get it and this is an emergency situation. But let say your in a urban environment (townhouse/single family) and let's say your powers out for an extended period. Not hours...days. how would you go about and heat a room in your house safely?!
Absolutely. I did a video under my Emergency Heating playlist that covers 15 methods of heating. Warm the body, not the room. Let me know if you can't find it
I did find it. Thank you! I missed that one. I have been contemplating a wood stove but the wife doesn't seem to be to keen on it. I was even looking for a wood/pellet stove combination. I just put new insulation around the house and now going to go through the windows and reseal them also. I do have one of those buddy heaters and it is great. Will be picking up the reusable containers ASAP. Also - you mentioned fire extinguishers(maybe in the other video). Fire is no joke - the after effects aren't either. Fire extinguishers leave a mess. There are other options (Halguard, Element). I have a couple of Element Fire extinguishers for the inside and the "regular" ones for outside or situations that I don't care about the mess. Now seperate question - ever make it out to the DC/MD/VA area? If you do - I owe you at LEAST a cup of coffee for all this info. And Im a pretty good tour guide of the DC area! @@PracticalPreparedness
Yes, doesn't hurt to remind on the importance of safety. Thank you
Fuel keg is better
Going to have to try it out, thanks
Mr. Heater makes a refillable tank that is superior to the Flame King tank.
How so?
Lol, what good are safety glasses if the tank explodes on ya?
P.s
Yep I'm a smart butt.
It's a very good point too
You dont quite have the science right. This is how I understand it. When you open the main valve and start filling, the pressure between the 2 tanks equalizes immediately. The reason you have to tip the main tank upside down is so that the liquid propane gravity feeds from the big tank into the smaller tank, You have to do this becasue the main propane tank you are using is not designed for liquid filling other tanks, it is designed for feeding vapour (gas) fron the top of the tank to an appliance. A tank designed for liquid feeding has a straw that goes to the bottom of the tank, pressure in the tank pushes liquid up the straw and out the valve, with this type of tank you dont have to turn it upside down.
On your little tank, the little valve you open with the allen key is not really a pressure release, it is a valve that has a straw that goes down to the 80% full mark. When the liquid in the little tank gets to the 80% level, liquid gets pushed up the straw and out the valve, thats when you close the valves, when you see liquid venting out of the little valve it's at 80% full. Propane tanks are filled to maximum 80% for safety, to allow plenty of headroom just in case the tank is exposed to high temperature increase. Its safe (but not legal) to fill a good propane tank to 99% full if you are 100% sure the full tank will not be exposed to a temperature increase, for example if its going to stay in a cold environment, or if the tank is going to be used up immediately (ie. not sitting around almost full with the potential for warming up and building up pressure).
Everything I have said is all about understanding vapour pressure. The easiest way to understand is this: 2 propane tanks that are 99% full and 5% full of liquid propane have exactly the same pressure. The only way the pressure can change is if the temperature changes. Problem with 99% full is that you have only 1% of the volume for gas to expand into if pressure increases due to a small increase in temperature. A 80% full tank can handle much greater increase in temperature before it will vent gas.
Refilling disposable tanks is dangerous. They are thin walled and flimsy, and easily dented. They are not designed to go through cycles of flexing and unflexing, and may also rust out quickly internally. Proper propane tanks are thick walled and can withstand pressures much higher than propane pressures, a good tank at high temperature will vent gas out the safety valve long before there is any danger of excessive pressure. Its always the fittings and valves that leak/fail, not the tank itself (unless its walls are damaged or corroded). Propane tanks are tested to a pressure of about twice the foreseeable maximum propane pressure (i think). Propane pressures are a few times the pressure inside your car tyres.
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Speechless. Thanks for watching
More efficient??? Make the first 3 minutes 30 seconds.
Thanks for watching!
Thank you for updating your other video. Please remove the other video. Flame King will save you money. Skillet
It will save you! Thanks
you should put the 1 LB tank in the freezer first .
Even the refillable you think? Might speed it up…
They’re 2 for 8 bucks here in my local Walmart in Northern California … it would still be nice to be able to refill
At least you know your options
Wtf...you do realize that there is a Schrader valve to release pressure on the regular tanks, right?! The refill adapter i have has a 90° bend so that the standard tank sits upright while filling, and I can depress the Schrader valve until gas comes out instead of air. Also, the metal the disposable tanks are made of are pressure tested to withstand much higher pressure than what filling will produce. Quit the fear mongering
You got to stop defaulting to “fear mongering” when you see something you don’t agree with.. if you watched the vid I call out the schrader and it’s higher likelihood of getting stuck open.