I been doing this for years. To be clear over filling is risky if you have a change in temp. They leave room for expansion when they fill em from the factoty as a saftey precaution.. heat expands cold contracts. So fill em up on a 75 degree day. Take em to the lake and its 100 degrees or leave em in the back of your truck closed and you may have an hour glass shaped bottle or something with bulges in it. Just keep that in mind. I have over filled and got one bulging after it set on a picnic table in the sun. Its better to underfill then over fill. Have fun and be safe.
I had to convince my boyfriend that my method of releasing the gas to chill the bottle was faster than his throwing it in the freezer method so I brought up this video and made him watch it with me haha.
Use soap bubble test to see if propane is leaking from the outlet of the bottle after filling. I"ve had a couple of them leak after filling. Maybe dust or particle gets pushed into the seal when filling.
A suggestion: since these empties are commonly referred to as 1 pound tanks and not 453.6 gram tanks, why not simply use pound and ounces when weighing them because that's the measurement most people are familiar with.
Although at one time Canada used pounds and ounces, everything here now is in kilograms or grams… I understand both, sometimes I just forget to convert for my USA friends…
And you can fill a bottle with propane still in it. Secret is to open the valve just a little. You can hear it hiss and start to fill. Then open it a little more and put more in. The valve used in the video doesn't prevent over filling so you need to weigh it to make sure it's not over filled. Don't leave the valve open for more than a minute before weighing it again. The small green ones should weigh 16.4 oz or 465 grams
Buy the adaptor that has a length of hose and a ball valve. Releasing pressure from the small tank is critical if you want a proper and fast fill. Grind down the tips on a small pair of needle nose pliers so they can grip the small relief valve. Release gas as the small tank if filling.
Yes a ball valve would be convenient, opening the relief valve is going to be a personal choice, I prefer not to touch it… thanks for the comment! Have a good one…
Releasing pressure is removing LP gas. The LP will just repressurize the tank as fast as you release the gas so you're basically just chasing your tail and wasting LP. There is absolutely no need to release pressure from the small tank.
You can get a full charge by burping the small bottles with a punch or drill bit for 4-5 seconds. do it with the bottle upright, depress the valve inside the threaded nipple, then fill again with the large tank. DO THIS OUTSIDE WITH NO IGNITION SOURCES NEARBY🔥, DO NOT MESS WITH THE VALVE ON THE BOTTLE ITSELF, it's a safety blow off valve that works opposite of the main valve. only do it 2 times, and weigh the bottle. it should be between 15-16 oz net, if its a little over, bleed it down with your punch. I use these 1lb bottles with a big buddy propane furnace, and it's nice to get a full bottle run without having to get out of a nice warm sleeping bag :o)
Instead of Steel drill bit or punch why not just use wood so you're not metal to metal when beating on it or not at all. Pull the body off the big bottle and push to release Air inside of your little bottle plug. Then feel again.
@@leswalker2639 Yea, let's use a "piece of wood", something that has a VERY good chance to leave small wood bits behind... I think NOT.... I will keep with using an appropriate sized drill bit to perform any bleeding.... You're welcome..........
When I was a kid someone turned a propane torch upside down and pointed it at me and turned the valve on. Instead of gas coming out the liquid propane shot out and hit me in the face. It froze my cheek instantly. I had no feeling in it for several days. Definitely wear gloves when handling propane!
Thanks for the nice video! I don't know why , but your voice and intonation remind me of a young John Malkovich..lol. Maybe you're both from the same area..🙂😎
Trick is freeze the empty and heat up the full tank.. heat makes the gas expand and pressurize and the gas wAnts to go to cold so will ultra fill the tanks.. i do it with spray paint cans to transfer paint to another can…
The new 914 Gm Tank Has a plastic bottom and is lighter when empty than the older metal bottom tanks. Wiegt the tank empty and again after filling. The difference is the actual weight of the propane in the tank.
If it's cold out and the 20# tank is cold what I have done is after I screw on the small bottle I quickly check it for leaks and if none then I run a small torch flame up and down the back side of the 20# bottle. This raises the temperature in the big bottle and as it gets warmer the pressure rises also which helps the LP gas to flow better. "Just dont have any leaks or you go boom, lol" (I have a combustable gas leak detector that I use for work mostly so it's fast and not messy. But bubbles dont lie so theyre ok too. Dawn dishsoap mixed with water makes a good bubble mixture for leak seeking. Good Video!
Good points, I’d only heat it like that in an emergency otherwise just take the 20 pounder inside and let it warm naturally… and yes .. soap is your friend..
@@kd_enterprise3404 I got used to doing that with Air Conditioning when I had to charge air conditioning units in wintertime on top of shopping malls. Malls use use air conditioning all year round because in the winter time is the holiday season and there are zillions of people there adding heat to all of the lights and stuff so it would get hot even in winter. But of course refrigerants are not flammable so of course you would only do that in an emergency, like if the grid goes down and you need heat. But the point is the higher temp of the supply tank means higher pressure to push the gas out so it flows.
Bravo Zulu on the content. I am just starting to truck cap camp. my Mr Buddy is not cheap to run even in the small space of my truck topper. Refilling the green tanks saves a bunch. thanks again young mam. i am a new fan
Thanks for the comment, you can also buy a hose to hook up to a 20pound or 30pound tank… that’s what I’ve been doing. The small tanks are great for camping a few days… but I basically run mine 24hrs a day sometimes. On low it lasts a very very long time…
Great stuff. But what do you do when your state requires that refillable gas tanks be equipped with an anti-tip device that shuts off the gas if the tank is not upright?
Not trying to sound like the word police but it is an adapter that he is using, not a valve. In my opinion the way to go, and the least amount of parts to confuse someone. Completely safe. 👀👍🏻
AT 12:30 - When you "shake the tank" you are actually sloshing the liquid propane in the large tank around thereby having the liquid propane come in contact with a fairly warmer area of the tank which then increases the filling pressure - slightly....
That’s a good comment, I’d agree.. never thought about the heat transfer but it makes sense either way. If it’s not the heat transfer I think just disturbing the liquid might increase pressure… good point….
Is it anything like fill in your fork truck tanks? I used to feel them up all the time I would get a kick out of the strange Ice Cube that would grow around the valve. I would open a valve & displace the air with the liquid propane. Afterwards I would allow a little to leak out for a few seconds, so it could have room for expansion if it heated up.
With pre-chill you don't need to vent propane gas to cool the bottle. But venting works well so the unanswered question is how much propane do you actually waste using that method. Easy enough to weigh the tank before and after venting to measure loss. I'd guess a 5% (20-25g) loss would be my over/under for deciding on method. BTW the science behind this is all transfer is done with pressure differential between the tanks. And pressure is strictly determined by the temperature. So a warm bottle will push to a cold bottle regardless of size or percent filled. I see no reason that your shaking should do anything to help.
Just a note about propane on your skin. When I was 12, I caught a ringworm on the bottom of my foot. As you get them by being barefoot around cattle; small country town. Now this was back in the early 70's so things may have changed by now. A friend my dad knew said he could kill it by freezing it. It took a few times but it worked. There was no damage to my skin beside being super cold. Now medicine has changed a lot and there was probably medication to fix it at the time. Pastors of small churches in very small town live on almost nothing. Point is, it worked and served its purpose years back. BUT listen to the warning, you do not want it on your skin.
Interesting story, people did things differently back in the day…. Liquid propane can be very damaging to the skin and it can happen in an instant… I agree with you, be careful, keep off skin… not worth the risk..
This is what I got, which is nice because it has a ball valve to shut off the flow of propane from the main tank, and it's less awkward attaching and disconnecting the refill canisters. More easily weighed in a scale to check the fill quantity also. Propane Refill Adapter Hose 36’’ Propane Extension Hose Propane Refill Hose with ON-Off Control Valve
I use a 5 gal. Bucket. I cut a large window in the side so I would have lots of room for my hand. Set the 20 lb.tank upside down. It's very stable and works great. My valve sticks out the side of the bucket several inches.
If the little tanks are minus 10 then they are prob good to go, you could still vent it a bit, the big tank will still fill it even if it’s cold. It’s helpful if the big tank is a little warmer, but do not heat it up to room temperature, perhaps 10 degrees warmer. Example…if it’s minus 10 then big tank at zero would be good. The issue with using a really warm large tank is it can easily overfill the small one… wear gloves and eye protection.
My father built a jig to do this back in 1968, we had a MM propane tractor and propane was 4 cents per litre delivered to the farm! So filling up a 1 lb tank cost 3 or 4 cents.
Totally different opinion. I had nothing but success with the first one. Quality. No plastic like that junky second one. I heard people say they tend to leak more because they have a dynamic seal (plastic piece rotates) which the single piece doesn't have. Not sure what issue you could have with the brass one piece. Screw in on on both ends. End of story. Can't be any easier. The overfill device I believe is there to limit the flow when it is connected to the 1lb tank only (as in trying to bleed off excess) meaning it will hiss a little and let some propane out but won't be like a geyser. There is nothing that will prevent you from overfilling the 1lb tank. I always chill it and get 70-80% on the first try. Plenty good. No messing with the overpress valve and releasing pressure which causes you to have another potential failure point to deal with. You should bleed off the 976 g one since it is 7% overfilled. Don't want to mess with that on a hot day. Amazon sells nice cheap brass screw on caps with rubber seals. Highly recommend those! Great video. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the comment, I’ll check out the caps. I use the tanks that are slightly over full first, and they are stored in a cold area. The first valve was defective, neighbour has one the same and it worked fine. I like the second valve because it is just a straight hole all the way through, nothing to go wrong... have a good day.
I delivered propane but you pump it when delivering. Here you are just free flowing by pressure. Always wore insulated rubber gloves. Leather is better than cloth type but still leather has seams and liquid propane can enter. LPG burns are terrible. FYI bees love to be around propane.
If you can screw the tanks on to where the bleeder is facing up you can bleed out the gaseous propane as your filling to make more room for the liquid propane. I fill my 100# that way with the bleeder on side till liquid propane comes out.
The gas and/or liquid quits flowing when the pressure in both tanks equalize. As the propane flows out of the large tank, pressure drops and some of the liquid inside will change to gas, and causes a temperature drop. So yes, cooling the small tank below the temp of the large one will drop the pressure allowing more propane to enter. If you kept propane cold enough, you could put in a bucket. (-44 F)
I purchased a fill valve ( unlike this one ). I followed the directions and still can’t get a bottle filled. It does put some propane in the canister, just not full. Is this common? I usually need mine for my buddy heater during late season hunting from a blind.
If u have made a few or several attempts then it’s the attachment, my first one I bought was garbage….. u need one with a straight through pass with no valve safety feature. I had a hell of a time with the first valve….
Itd seem there would be some kind of pump that could ho between the 2 tanks. Theyre not readily sold for this, but like TEMU has gas pumps for cars, which itd seem like these could be used. Anyone have any experience?
Can’t remember, but all I’m doing generally, if the tank is really empty and nothing comes out I’ll put a bit of gas in then vent it out to cool tank so it will fill full. If you have a lot of tanks with zero pressure it might be more productive to put them in freezer and avoid this step.
It's a blow off valve if u over fill they leak gas keep in cool space when storing car floor I've seen them leak in a car ! Can go boom with unlocking electric locks doom light window motor 1 sparks all it takes
Agree, some people also mess with the valve when filling… it’s best to leave that valve alone. For sure store in a cool place, and if that is not possible a very well ventilated place… have a good one!
My valve is just like first value he didn't like, I 've never ever had a problem with. Follow instructions SAY cool 1pounders in freezer 10 min, big tank should be 72 degrees OR SO, 1 minute to fill, never a problem
Wouldn't chilling it cause it be over-pressurized when the bottle is full and comes back to room temp? Or does the pressure just case the propane in a gaseous state to become liquid?
When the little tank is cold it simply decreases the pressure so you can fill it full, your statements are correct, but it’s unlikely you will over fill because as you add propane the tank begins to heat.. so say both your supply and empty tank are the same temperature, the empty tank begins to heat when filling and the supply tank begins to cool, that is why you can never completely fill the small tank without first cooling it. It is possible to overfill when certain conditions exist, that is why I recommend weighing a new full tank of the same brand, then when empty you can fill then weigh it to make sure it does not contain too much propane that could go over the manufacturers specs in various conditions.
This would be true if the bottle was overfilled. Don't overfill. Weigh the tank and make sure you haven't filled to more than a new tanks weight, usually 16 ounces of propane plus the weight of the empty tank. This amount will fill the tank to about 80% and leave the remaining 20% of the volume as gas .That 20% volume of gas is a necessary safety cushion that will compress as the liquid propane expands due to normal temperature increases.That's the safety factor built into the tank, and why it is important not to overfill.If you just put in the correct weighed amount you don't have to worry about pressure.When I started filling these tanks I never weighed and overfilled some to the point I found then in storage bulging out of shape. Scary.That was when I bought a scale and was carefull to put in just the right amount or even a little less.
Bingo! If you put the half full tank in the freezer you have a half pound of thermal mass that will help maintain the pressure differential and allow the flow from the big tank to the small one. This is the only correct way, but be careful or you will overfill. Take it slow and wiegh them often.
I do not have a 20lb propane tank yet. I was wondering if anyone can comment on the better way to purchase propane. They have the "exchange a tank " at Home Depot etc or should i just buy my own propane tank and get it filled when it is empty ? Is there any difference price wise or convenience wise ?
Tough question for most of the country… I personally purchase my tanks because I have access to very low propane prices from our indigenous community… however I don’t believe the exchange programs for the general public add any cost… it’s more convenience and ready to go at locations that do not have refilling ability.. so you might pay a little more for that service at some locations…
i`m thinking that if i use the exchange program that i will have to wait until the tank is completely empty before exchanging it where if i buy my own tank i can get it refilled even when there is still a bit of propane in it@@kd_enterprise3404
@@derrickbuehler4906 yes, if the tank is not empty you lose….oddly some places even if you take the tank charge you the max.. other places only charge for what is put in tank… weird ….
@@derrickbuehler4906 The exchange type usually only have 15 lbs of propane in the 20 lb bottle. Keep that in mind when shopping around. You can get those exchange tanks and have them refilled at any propane refill store. Tractor supply charges by the pound, most gas companies charge the full 20 lb price even if you only top it off .
@@derrickbuehler4906 The exchange type usually only have 15 lbs of propane in the 20 lb bottle. Keep that in mind when shopping around. You can get those exchange tanks and have them refilled at any propane refill store. Tractor supply charges by the pound, most gas companies charge the full 20 lb price even if you only top it off .
With the human ear, you will never be able to hear when the 1 pound tank stops filling. I've waited until I hear nothing & then I've put a stethoscope on the bottom of the 1 pound tank and I can still hear propane going into it. Using a full tank, for the first 5 one lb bottles I fill I simply leave it on for about 9 minutes and they are always full or nearly full. As the large tank gets emptier more time is needed to fill. Why waste time fiddling with taking the 1 pound off and putting it on again. KISS.
I’d have to watch again, it’s not very often I take off but if I do it’s simply to cool the tank which will allow more gas to flow into it in the end, more than just waiting a long time… either way is fine… I’m impatient.
I don’t know how many States require 20lb tanks to have valves that prevent liquid propane from leaving the tank but I the last 2 that I lived in do which makes this process untenable. Years ago I just bought an adapter on a long hose and use it with the big tank for my torches, camp stove, Mr. Heater, etc.
that’s good for a camp stove, i plan to do likewise. (use 20 lb tank with adaptor) but i want to ad a splinter and a propane lantern and it’s occurred to me that with it attached to the 20 lb tank it’s gonna be a pain. i mean you often want to walk around carrying your lantern to check something out in the dark. and with the hose attached at the bottom of the lantern it would be suitable for hanging but what about sitting it on a table? i’ll have to figure out some kind of stand . there would have to be a 90 elbow at the lantern bottom?
I get your point, however depending on manufacturer they do vary, so the key is to have a new full tank, and a completely empty one by the same manufacturer. Then when you fill the old tank you can determine how full it is plus know if you have gone over capacity… I kinda want people to use their own measurements because some tanks are very different depending who made… thanks for the comment, and yes a could have been more clear on the topic.
My method is much better. I fill these green Coleman bottles sitting vertically on a digital weighing scale. Have a valve that screws on the green bottle. Valve is connected to the large propane tank with a clear plastic small diameter hose. I never freeze the green bottles. Simply slightly unscrew relief valve on green bottle to vent off gas pressure to allow a complete 1 lbs fill.
Why does no one in any of these videos address the check valve that's on the big propane tank itself. The check valve that makes it not flow really fast. Every time I try to fill mine that valve closes once I get it flowing. Then I have to disconnect everything and start all over resetting that check valve how can I disable that?
If you are hooking the refill valve directly to the tank then you should not have issues, the issue usually resides with the adapter as I explain at start of video… I’m not saying definitively that your tank is causing the issue it’s just not common… what you described in your statement was exactly what I thought was happening.. but in the end it was the refill attachment… but who knows… they might be making tanks to prevent doing what we do… look up the second refill valve I displayed in vid and see if it’s available on da Amazon still. Get that valve.. if it does not work perhaps buy a different propane tank.. it might be defective…
Open the valentines on the 20lb tank slowly. When you open it to fast the check valves will snap shut every time. I’ve had a couple that were really temperamental and would sometimes snap shut when opened super slowly. Would take two or three tries sometimes before it would work on the grill or for refilling.
@@cygnus1965 There are some tank exchange services in gas stations that sell less than full 20lb tanks with a lower price. I believe these under filled ones have 16lbs propane in them. It's a sales gimmick. Kind of like how they change the size of a candy to be a different weight. I have seen these with a label telling you the actual propane weight and some without. The price of propane varies a lot, like gasoline, but it is also impacted by demand. Late in the winter heating season, the price can get pretty high.
I can only tell you what I do, 5% over a new tank is not significant. The weight variance of tanks is similar… As I say, I do what I do, I make no claim as to right wrong, safe unsafe, legal or not legal, this was a demonstration only, you have to make your own decisions about what is acceptable for you.
If it's going to be done regularly, it'd seem like it'd be of benefit to make a manifold so several can be filled at one time. It'd also seem like if the 20# tank were allowed to set out in the sun, it'd increase the pressure pushing more into small tanks. Anyone know?
All good options, the only bit of caution, one time it was about minus 20, I keep my empty 1 pound tanks outside and I had a room temperature 20 pounder I took outside to fill them… it’s the first time the 1 pound tank overfilled, it’s ok if they go over a little bit but it was so overfull when I attached the small tank to an appliance it would not seal and sprayed propane everywhere. One would think the relief valve would have kicked in but it did not… I think it really set up a dangerous situation, got me thinking how important it is to wear some good leather gloves, and eye protection. I alway wear gloves because it’s common to get a little spray disconnecting, but had the relief valve blown in my face that would be serious… liquid propane will cause serious damage… be careful everyone…
watch at 2x speed. You won't miss anything. Except the excess time it went on even at 2x. Also, numbers. 914-614 is a loss of 300 grams, I doubt the accuracy of the quoted figures.
You noted Gas as "Liquid", [tho under presser] would 'shaking' cause bubbles? [3rd post purge] 15:54 was trying to time fill to compare. lol *Botched my 'study'* IF, 16:38 No label, you switched? *Thanks*
Nice vid... I've been refilling for more than 20 years with a homemade adapter that my father braised together... not a single problem ever. My advice is to stay away from the Schrader valve for bleeding. An appropriate sized Allen wrench on the main valve works great. And oh for those not living in The Great White North or United Kingdom... empty is roughly one pound. Full (new), roughly two. And the brass caps with seals on Amazon are highly recommended!
First time I have seen or heard anyone mention boiling point! Kudos to the content creators to show this can be done. Been refilling tanks for many years for the sake of convenience even before we needed to do it to save 75%. Just learn that it isn't air that is being purged (let out) but valuable propane. Filling 14 green tanks after venting for 10 to15 seconds, at nearly full flow rate, will come at the expense of losing about an ounce of propane per purge. That's another green tank. Nothing like using a wobbly workmate that has the clamp top opened up, then covered with a towel, preventing one from seeing where to set and stabilize the full size tank. Love to watch folks demonstrate the safety practices of eye protection and gloves just to stand directly in front of a potential missile if a failure occurs. Stranger things have happened in industrial environments and that is where you have stepped when you start doing this stuff.
976 GM ÷ 914 GM = 1.067 or 6.7% overfilled. As a chemist, I tell you and everyone, this is not "fine"/acceptable. Tanks freshly bought are filled according to federal legal standards. Do not exceed them. It's a safety matter. Otherwise, the video is useful.
@@MegaStairman Like any human construct it is not infallible, BUT thanks are filled by.ordinary humans with - generally - nearly no training in simple arithmatic, let alone in being precise. With more than 40 years in construction business, I KNOW how many guys claim to be carpenters and can't tell how many 1/16" marks they need to measure. They talk about "the littlest marks" etc. So hush, mouth, unless you know more than I do, which is extremely unlikely.
@@pahinhwinh3936 odds are I can teach you to be a good curved wooden stair carpenter where tape measures don't work regardless of how small the marks are...can you sharpen a ✏️
"Thanks" are filled? Regardless - the less training a person has, coupled with the incendiary danger of a material, the more precision is needed in order to fend off disaster. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".. And "I'm sorry" never healed a wound or burn.
@@pahinhwinh3936 should stupid people be allowed to vote...drive...buy products you seem to be dangerous...your tiny brain cant fathom where this takes us can it
I started watching but had to quit. 1. Use a script. 2. Practice the script. 3. Run through the actual set up and fill until you have it perfected. 4. Stop saying "uh" and then pausing while you try to remember what comes next. You used 20 minutes to present 7 or 8 minutes of information.
In the US transportation of the little bottles is a federal offense if they have been refilled. I am not sure what Canadian law is, but I suspect it's probably the same. When you scale your empty tank, just got the gate button. If your tank is rated for one pound it is probably not a good idea to exceed the rating. But the good news is they have recently started selling one pound refillable cylinders with proper release valves so you can legally transport them, and you don't have to drink around with freezing the empties.
I been doing this for years. To be clear over filling is risky if you have a change in temp. They leave room for expansion when they fill em from the factoty as a saftey precaution.. heat expands cold contracts. So fill em up on a 75 degree day. Take em to the lake and its 100 degrees or leave em in the back of your truck closed and you may have an hour glass shaped bottle or something with bulges in it. Just keep that in mind. I have over filled and got one bulging after it set on a picnic table in the sun. Its better to underfill then over fill. Have fun and be safe.
I had to convince my boyfriend that my method of releasing the gas to chill the bottle was faster than his throwing it in the freezer method so I brought up this video and made him watch it with me haha.
Valve on the side is an over pressure relief valve, ie tank sits in sun etc
The 20 lb tank with outside thread is Qcc1, the thread on the inside is POL.
Correct, never ever touch the second Valve
Use soap bubble test to see if propane is leaking from the outlet of the bottle after filling. I"ve had a couple of them leak after filling. Maybe dust or particle gets pushed into the seal when filling.
That's where you use brass caps.
Same with refillable lighters. You always want to purge a few times the the air that builds up pressure while refilling.
Thanks for the video lessons on refilling small tanks!! Appreciated highly!!
Watched several similar videos, this one was by far the most helpful. Thank you!!
Thanks!
I was told at our provincial park it cost 2.54 per tank to dispose of empty tanks that people throw away.
Makes camping more expensive for everyone!
Ouch! What da….
I've found perfectly good new 1 lb tanks in trash at campgrounds, I collect, and refill.
A suggestion: since these empties are commonly referred to as 1 pound tanks and not 453.6 gram tanks, why not simply use pound and ounces when weighing them because that's the measurement most people are familiar with.
Although at one time Canada used pounds and ounces, everything here now is in kilograms or grams… I understand both, sometimes I just forget to convert for my USA friends…
I appreciate the video
@@jimkillen1065 thanks
@@kd_enterprise3404 except you keep referring to the tanks as 1 pound or 2 pound and then decide to switch it up to metric??
Total weight 1 pound empty.... 2 pound is full
Nice video. I appreciate the information!
And you can fill a bottle with propane still in it. Secret is to open the valve just a little. You can hear it hiss and start to fill. Then open it a little more and put more in. The valve used in the video doesn't prevent over filling so you need to weigh it to make sure it's not over filled. Don't leave the valve open for more than a minute before weighing it again. The small green ones should weigh 16.4 oz or 465 grams
Buy the adaptor that has a length of hose and a ball valve.
Releasing pressure from the small tank is critical if you want a proper and fast fill. Grind down the tips on a small pair of needle nose pliers so they can grip the small relief valve. Release gas as the small tank if filling.
Yes a ball valve would be convenient, opening the relief valve is going to be a personal choice, I prefer not to touch it… thanks for the comment! Have a good one…
Releasing pressure is removing LP gas. The LP will just repressurize the tank as fast as you release the gas so you're basically just chasing your tail and wasting LP. There is absolutely no need to release pressure from the small tank.
@@martyapobut the point is to rapidly freeze the tank so it accepts a full amount of gas.
@@martyapono it will replace the lp gas with liquid propane and fill the tank
You can get a full charge by burping the small bottles with a punch or drill bit for 4-5 seconds. do it with the bottle upright, depress the valve inside the threaded nipple, then fill again with the large tank. DO THIS OUTSIDE WITH NO IGNITION SOURCES NEARBY🔥, DO NOT MESS WITH THE VALVE ON THE BOTTLE ITSELF, it's a safety blow off valve that works opposite of the main valve. only do it 2 times, and weigh the bottle. it should be between 15-16 oz net, if its a little over, bleed it down with your punch.
I use these 1lb bottles with a big buddy propane furnace, and it's nice to get a full bottle run without having to get out of a nice warm sleeping bag :o)
Instead of Steel drill bit or punch why not just use wood so you're not metal to metal when beating on it or not at all. Pull the body off the big bottle and push to release Air inside of your little bottle plug. Then feel again.
@@leswalker2639 Yea, let's use a "piece of wood", something that has a VERY good chance to leave small wood bits behind... I think NOT.... I will keep with using an appropriate sized drill bit to perform any bleeding.... You're welcome..........
When I was a kid someone turned a propane torch upside down and pointed it at me and turned the valve on. Instead of gas coming out the liquid propane shot out and hit me in the face. It froze my cheek instantly. I had no feeling in it for several days. Definitely wear gloves when handling propane!
And glasses! Thanks for sharing a valuable comment.
Wow yup my dad explain that. You want the gas in bottle above not the fluid below it.
Glad you not get even worse you Lucky.
Thanks for the nice video! I don't know why , but your voice and intonation remind me of a young John Malkovich..lol. Maybe you're both from the same area..🙂😎
Trick is freeze the empty and heat up the full tank.. heat makes the gas expand and pressurize and the gas wAnts to go to cold so will ultra fill the tanks.. i do it with spray paint cans to transfer paint to another can…
The new 914 Gm Tank Has a plastic bottom and is lighter when empty than the older metal bottom tanks. Wiegt the tank empty and again after filling. The difference is the actual weight of the propane in the tank.
his difference was a 300g loss on that first fill. Must be that metric math😂
If it's cold out and the 20# tank is cold what I have done is after I screw on the small bottle I quickly check it for leaks and if none then I run a small torch flame up and down the back side of the 20# bottle. This raises the temperature in the big bottle and as it gets warmer the pressure rises also which helps the LP gas to flow better.
"Just dont have any leaks or you go boom, lol" (I have a combustable gas leak detector that I use for work mostly so it's fast and not messy. But bubbles dont lie so theyre ok too. Dawn dishsoap mixed with water makes a good bubble mixture for leak seeking.
Good Video!
Good points, I’d only heat it like that in an emergency otherwise just take the 20 pounder inside and let it warm naturally… and yes .. soap is your friend..
@@kd_enterprise3404 I got used to doing that with Air Conditioning when I had to charge air conditioning units in wintertime on top of shopping malls. Malls use use air conditioning all year round because in the winter time is the holiday season and there are zillions of people there adding heat to all of the lights and stuff so it would get hot even in winter. But of course refrigerants are not flammable so of course you would only do that in an emergency, like if the grid goes down and you need heat. But the point is the higher temp of the supply tank means higher pressure to push the gas out so it flows.
Bravo Zulu on the content. I am just starting to truck cap camp. my Mr Buddy is not cheap to run even in the small space of my truck topper. Refilling the green tanks saves a bunch. thanks again young mam. i am a new fan
Thanks for the comment, you can also buy a hose to hook up to a 20pound or 30pound tank… that’s what I’ve been doing. The small tanks are great for camping a few days… but I basically run mine 24hrs a day sometimes. On low it lasts a very very long time…
Great stuff. But what do you do when your state requires that refillable gas tanks be equipped with an anti-tip device that shuts off the gas if the tank is not upright?
I guess if that is the law then it’s for you to decide. I only did a .for demonstration purposes video.
I'll have to be sure to order some stuff, and some of that stuff.
Not trying to sound like the word police but it is an adapter that he is using, not a valve. In my opinion the way to go, and the least amount of parts to confuse someone. Completely safe. 👀👍🏻
Good going that's exactly how I do it you don't need a deep freeze
I live in Wisconsin and in the winter you don't need a deep freeze for the empties--just put them outside in a container.
Great video, the 3rd method works great for me! Thanks for taking the time to post this.
Thanks for checking it out!
The plastic bottom tanks weigh less that the steel bottom ones
If you purge the air out you can get the tank full
AT 12:30 - When you "shake the tank" you are actually sloshing the liquid propane in the large tank around thereby having the liquid propane come in contact with a fairly warmer area of the tank which then increases the filling pressure - slightly....
That’s a good comment, I’d agree.. never thought about the heat transfer but it makes sense either way. If it’s not the heat transfer I think just disturbing the liquid might increase pressure… good point….
Watching the video and reading the comments is like an episode of Jackass.
Double check to make sure that the the valve on the the tank is fully off (all the way clockwise) before you screw in the adapter. 4:31
I like the full valves that have a shutoff so it visibly on or off and it’s faster and I don’t have to tilt my tank cause it could fall
Is it anything like fill in your fork truck tanks?
I used to feel them up all the time I would get a kick out of the strange Ice Cube that would grow around the valve.
I would open a valve & displace the air with the liquid propane. Afterwards I would allow a little to leak out for a few seconds, so it could have room for expansion if it heated up.
The principle sounds similar, when you vent the tank it cools it, and it will form ice! Thanks for watching..
@@kd_enterprise3404 you're welcome!👍🇺🇸
With pre-chill you don't need to vent propane gas to cool the bottle. But venting works well so the unanswered question is how much propane do you actually waste using that method. Easy enough to weigh the tank before and after venting to measure loss. I'd guess a 5% (20-25g) loss would be my over/under for deciding on method. BTW the science behind this is all transfer is done with pressure differential between the tanks. And pressure is strictly determined by the temperature. So a warm bottle will push to a cold bottle regardless of size or percent filled. I see no reason that your shaking should do anything to help.
Just a note about propane on your skin. When I was 12, I caught a ringworm on the bottom of my foot. As you get them by being barefoot around cattle; small country town. Now this was back in the early 70's so things may have changed by now. A friend my dad knew said he could kill it by freezing it. It took a few times but it worked. There was no damage to my skin beside being super cold. Now medicine has changed a lot and there was probably medication to fix it at the time. Pastors of small churches in very small town live on almost nothing. Point is, it worked and served its purpose years back. BUT listen to the warning, you do not want it on your skin.
Interesting story, people did things differently back in the day…. Liquid propane can be very damaging to the skin and it can happen in an instant… I agree with you, be careful, keep off skin… not worth the risk..
Hey I can believe it worked I went to the doctors one day to get a planter's wart off my hand and they used CO2.
@@xxbuschxx9647 yes I have heard about freezing for warts…..
Ringworm is a virus not a 🐛
I could still hear it going in
depends on the 20 lb tank regarding valves
i like ur style
Those are some cool Goggles that you have there!
Where can I buy the adaptor, great video thanks
Get one similar to the second one I show on vid.. bought from Ama Zon.
@@kd_enterprise3404 ok thanks for the prompt reply
This is what I got, which is nice because it has a ball valve to shut off the flow of propane from the main tank, and it's less awkward attaching and disconnecting the refill canisters. More easily weighed in a scale to check the fill quantity also.
Propane Refill Adapter Hose 36’’ Propane Extension Hose Propane Refill Hose with ON-Off Control Valve
I use a 5 gal. Bucket. I cut a large window in the side so I would have lots of room for my hand. Set the 20 lb.tank upside down. It's very stable and works great. My valve sticks out the side of the bucket several inches.
Good 💡... 😊
Do you have to get the tanks cold if you do it in the winter?and what temperature does the big tanks have to be?thanks for sharing this video.
If the little tanks are minus 10 then they are prob good to go, you could still vent it a bit, the big tank will still fill it even if it’s cold. It’s helpful if the big tank is a little warmer, but do not heat it up to room temperature, perhaps 10 degrees warmer. Example…if it’s minus 10 then big tank at zero would be good. The issue with using a really warm large tank is it can easily overfill the small one… wear gloves and eye protection.
My father built a jig to do this back in 1968, we had a MM propane tractor and propane was 4 cents per litre delivered to the farm! So filling up a 1 lb tank cost 3 or 4 cents.
Thanks for the comment, day’s gone by that’s for sure!
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Totally different opinion. I had nothing but success with the first one. Quality. No plastic like that junky second one. I heard people say they tend to leak more because they have a dynamic seal (plastic piece rotates) which the single piece doesn't have. Not sure what issue you could have with the brass one piece. Screw in on on both ends. End of story. Can't be any easier. The overfill device I believe is there to limit the flow when it is connected to the 1lb tank only (as in trying to bleed off excess) meaning it will hiss a little and let some propane out but won't be like a geyser. There is nothing that will prevent you from overfilling the 1lb tank.
I always chill it and get 70-80% on the first try. Plenty good. No messing with the overpress valve and releasing pressure which causes you to have another potential failure point to deal with. You should bleed off the 976 g one since it is 7% overfilled. Don't want to mess with that on a hot day. Amazon sells nice cheap brass screw on caps with rubber seals. Highly recommend those! Great video. Thanks for posting.
Thanks for the comment, I’ll check out the caps. I use the tanks that are slightly over full first, and they are stored in a cold area. The first valve was defective, neighbour has one the same and it worked fine. I like the second valve because it is just a straight hole all the way through, nothing to go wrong... have a good day.
@@kd_enterprise3404 - just be careful never remove the big tank plastic ring with it still connected to the small tank or you’ll have a geyser!
Agree with the brass caps. Just make sure they have the rubber gasket and not the fiber!
I delivered propane but you pump it when delivering. Here you are just free flowing by pressure. Always wore insulated rubber gloves. Leather is better than cloth type but still leather has seams and liquid propane can enter. LPG burns are terrible. FYI bees love to be around propane.
If you can screw the tanks on to where the bleeder is facing up you can bleed out the gaseous propane as your filling to make more room for the liquid propane. I fill my 100# that way with the bleeder on side till liquid propane comes out.
The trick isn't about cooling the tank turn your tank so that the vapor side is point upward then the tank will fill.
The gas and/or liquid quits flowing when the pressure in both tanks equalize.
As the propane flows out of the large tank, pressure drops and some of the liquid inside will change to gas, and causes a temperature drop.
So yes, cooling the small tank below the temp of the large one will drop the pressure allowing more propane to enter. If you kept propane cold enough, you could put in a bucket. (-44 F)
Doe's anyone know if these work in britian, size wise etc?
I purchased a fill valve ( unlike this one ). I followed the directions and still can’t get a bottle filled. It does put some propane in the canister, just not full. Is this common? I usually need mine for my buddy heater during late season hunting from a blind.
If u have made a few or several attempts then it’s the attachment, my first one I bought was garbage….. u need one with a straight through pass with no valve safety feature. I had a hell of a time with the first valve….
you must bleed some pressure during refill procedure or liquid can't get into bottle
The first one you showed does have a shut off valve
No, neither adapter has a shutoff… one you can turn onto tank by hand the other you need a wrench…
Itd seem there would be some kind of pump that could ho between the 2 tanks. Theyre not readily sold for this, but like TEMU has gas pumps for cars, which itd seem like these could be used.
Anyone have any experience?
Why when you filled the tank that you put a little bit in and purged did the label come off off camera
Can’t remember, but all I’m doing generally, if the tank is really empty and nothing comes out I’ll put a bit of gas in then vent it out to cool tank so it will fill full. If you have a lot of tanks with zero pressure it might be more productive to put them in freezer and avoid this step.
It's a blow off valve if u over fill they leak gas keep in cool space when storing car floor I've seen them leak in a car ! Can go boom with unlocking electric locks doom light window motor 1 sparks all it takes
Agree, some people also mess with the valve when filling… it’s best to leave that valve alone. For sure store in a cool place, and if that is not possible a very well ventilated place… have a good one!
Wondering if you can fill one that is 3/4 empty?
Yes, just let a little gas out to cool tank as per normal….
I have seen people put them in ice water in a tub before refilling.
interesting 1.2 lbs with tank on it's side. I wanted to know if they needed to upright to achieve a full 1 lb fill.
Position of the tank being filled does not matter.
My valve is just like first value he didn't like, I 've never ever had a problem with. Follow instructions SAY cool 1pounders in freezer 10 min, big tank should be 72 degrees OR SO, 1 minute to fill, never a problem
Wouldn't chilling it cause it be over-pressurized when the bottle is full and comes back to room temp? Or does the pressure just case the propane in a gaseous state to become liquid?
When the little tank is cold it simply decreases the pressure so you can fill it full, your statements are correct, but it’s unlikely you will over fill because as you add propane the tank begins to heat.. so say both your supply and empty tank are the same temperature, the empty tank begins to heat when filling and the supply tank begins to cool, that is why you can never completely fill the small tank without first cooling it. It is possible to overfill when certain conditions exist, that is why I recommend weighing a new full tank of the same brand, then when empty you can fill then weigh it to make sure it does not contain too much propane that could go over the manufacturers specs in various conditions.
This would be true if the bottle was overfilled. Don't overfill. Weigh the tank and make sure you haven't filled to more than a new tanks weight, usually 16 ounces of propane plus the weight of the empty tank. This amount will fill the tank to about 80% and leave the remaining 20% of the volume as gas .That 20% volume of gas is a necessary safety cushion that will compress as the liquid propane expands due to normal temperature increases.That's the safety factor built into the tank, and why it is important not to overfill.If you just put in the correct weighed amount you don't have to worry about pressure.When I started filling these tanks I never weighed and overfilled some to the point I found then in storage bulging out of shape. Scary.That was when I bought a scale and was carefull to put in just the right amount or even a little less.
1 question where did u put the W-D straw at to decompress the gas at
U didn’t show that part
I put that straight in the main valve where the threads are…. Thanks for the question…
Hello…. So for the room temperature one can u take it and put it in the freezer as is to get cold and finish filling it up to the 900’s?
I usually cool them first or easier to just vent it for 10 seconds and it cools right down.
Bingo! If you put the half full tank in the freezer you have a half pound of thermal mass that will help maintain the pressure differential and allow the flow from the big tank to the small one.
This is the only correct way, but be careful or you will overfill. Take it slow and wiegh them often.
Harbor 3 has addapters
Were can I buy the filter valve ?
Check a m a z o n…
I do not have a 20lb propane tank yet. I was wondering if anyone can comment on the better way to purchase propane. They have the "exchange a tank " at Home Depot etc or should i just buy my own propane tank and get it filled when it is empty ? Is there any difference price wise or convenience wise ?
Tough question for most of the country… I personally purchase my tanks because I have access to very low propane prices from our indigenous community… however I don’t believe the exchange programs for the general public add any cost… it’s more convenience and ready to go at locations that do not have refilling ability.. so you might pay a little more for that service at some locations…
i`m thinking that if i use the exchange program that i will have to wait until the tank is completely empty before exchanging it where if i buy my own tank i can get it refilled even when there is still a bit of propane in it@@kd_enterprise3404
@@derrickbuehler4906 yes, if the tank is not empty you lose….oddly some places even if you take the tank charge you the max.. other places only charge for what is put in tank… weird ….
@@derrickbuehler4906 The exchange type usually only have 15 lbs of propane in the 20 lb bottle.
Keep that in mind when shopping around.
You can get those exchange tanks and have them refilled at any propane refill store.
Tractor supply charges by the pound, most gas companies charge the full 20 lb price even if you only top it off .
@@derrickbuehler4906 The exchange type usually only have 15 lbs of propane in the 20 lb bottle.
Keep that in mind when shopping around.
You can get those exchange tanks and have them refilled at any propane refill store.
Tractor supply charges by the pound, most gas companies charge the full 20 lb price even if you only top it off .
With the human ear, you will never be able to hear when the 1 pound tank stops filling. I've waited until I hear nothing & then I've put a stethoscope on the bottom of the 1 pound tank and I can still hear propane going into it. Using a full tank, for the first 5 one lb bottles I fill I simply leave it on for about 9 minutes and they are always full or nearly full. As the large tank gets emptier more time is needed to fill. Why waste time fiddling with taking the 1 pound off and putting it on again. KISS.
I’d have to watch again, it’s not very often I take off but if I do it’s simply to cool the tank which will allow more gas to flow into it in the end, more than just waiting a long time… either way is fine… I’m impatient.
You may just be hearing the propane in the supply tank boiling due to reduced pressure.
Each time you filled one I never heard mention of whether they were reusable or store bought one-time use that you were refilling.
@@rgruenhaus the regulations vary depending where u live.
@kd_enterprise3404 shouldn't be state determined! If it's a safety issue it's the same throughout the USA!
I don’t know how many States require 20lb tanks to have valves that prevent liquid propane from leaving the tank but I the last 2 that I lived in do which makes this process untenable. Years ago I just bought an adapter on a long hose and use it with the big tank for my torches, camp stove, Mr. Heater, etc.
I've been wondering about that. I'm in South Dakota and i run into nothing but trouble with this when it looks so obvious.
that’s good for a camp stove, i plan to do likewise. (use 20 lb tank with adaptor) but i want to ad a splinter and a propane lantern and it’s occurred to me that with it attached to the 20 lb tank it’s gonna be a pain. i mean you often want to walk around carrying your lantern to check something out in the dark. and with the hose attached at the bottom of the lantern it would be suitable for hanging but what about sitting it on a table? i’ll have to figure out some kind of stand . there would have to be a 90 elbow at the lantern bottom?
That was painful to listen to
" before we get started "
Yeah... Could have been 3 minutes... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
It would have been nice to see how much the tank was when empty.
I get your point, however depending on manufacturer they do vary, so the key is to have a new full tank, and a completely empty one by the same manufacturer. Then when you fill the old tank you can determine how full it is plus know if you have gone over capacity… I kinda want people to use their own measurements because some tanks are very different depending who made… thanks for the comment, and yes a could have been more clear on the topic.
It's a Schrader valve yes the same as your car tire
Wrong answer. One holds pressure, the other releases pressure.
My method is much better. I fill these green Coleman bottles sitting vertically on a digital weighing scale. Have a valve that screws on the green bottle. Valve is connected to the large propane tank with a clear plastic small diameter hose.
I never freeze the green bottles. Simply slightly unscrew relief valve on green bottle to vent off gas pressure to allow a complete 1 lbs fill.
Where did you get scale
It was either Bed and Bath or Amazon or Canadian Tire… honestly can’t remember, but these 3 are my goto for most items like this…
How long do you keep it in the freezer?
20 minutes should do…
Does anyone know of a similar adapter for refilling 1lb. Oxygen tanks?
I don't know, however I would like to refill my 1.4oz oxygen tanks from a 60 pound tank. Thanks for your question.
Why does no one in any of these videos address the check valve that's on the big propane tank itself. The check valve that makes it not flow really fast. Every time I try to fill mine that valve closes once I get it flowing. Then I have to disconnect everything and start all over resetting that check valve how can I disable that?
If you are hooking the refill valve directly to the tank then you should not have issues, the issue usually resides with the adapter as I explain at start of video… I’m not saying definitively that your tank is causing the issue it’s just not common… what you described in your statement was exactly what I thought was happening.. but in the end it was the refill attachment… but who knows… they might be making tanks to prevent doing what we do… look up the second refill valve I displayed in vid and see if it’s available on da Amazon still. Get that valve.. if it does not work perhaps buy a different propane tank.. it might be defective…
Open the valentines on the 20lb tank slowly. When you open it to fast the check valves will snap shut every time. I’ve had a couple that were really temperamental and would sometimes snap shut when opened super slowly. Would take two or three tries sometimes before it would work on the grill or for refilling.
How many 1 pound containers do you get out of a 20 pound tank?
If I recall it was around 10 nicely filled ….
Umm I get 20 or 22deoending how full I get the green ones and of you use the 20 for something besides filling.
@@cygnus1965 There are some tank exchange services in gas stations that sell less than full 20lb tanks with a lower price. I believe these under filled ones have 16lbs propane in them. It's a sales gimmick. Kind of like how they change the size of a candy to be a different weight. I have seen these with a label telling you the actual propane weight and some without.
The price of propane varies a lot, like gasoline, but it is also impacted by demand. Late in the winter heating season, the price can get pretty high.
tip it forward it will fill more
How long does it need to be in the freezer?
I’d give it 20 mins…
@@kd_enterprise3404 thank you
Don’t the 20lb tanks have the tip over valves in them?
I know there is a some sort of valve, but I’ve yet to have an issue as long as you gently turn over…..
Just don't open the big tank valve fast, just crack it a little at a time!!!
976g is significantly more than 914g. How did you determine that that would be "okay"? What weight would not be okay?
I can only tell you what I do, 5% over a new tank is not significant. The weight variance of tanks is similar… As I say, I do what I do, I make no claim as to right wrong, safe unsafe, legal or not legal, this was a demonstration only, you have to make your own decisions about what is acceptable for you.
If it's going to be done regularly, it'd seem like it'd be of benefit to make a manifold so several can be filled at one time. It'd also seem like if the 20# tank were allowed to set out in the sun, it'd increase the pressure pushing more into small tanks. Anyone know?
All good options, the only bit of caution, one time it was about minus 20, I keep my empty 1 pound tanks outside and I had a room temperature 20 pounder I took outside to fill them… it’s the first time the 1 pound tank overfilled, it’s ok if they go over a little bit but it was so overfull when I attached the small tank to an appliance it would not seal and sprayed propane everywhere. One would think the relief valve would have kicked in but it did not… I think it really set up a dangerous situation, got me thinking how important it is to wear some good leather gloves, and eye protection. I alway wear gloves because it’s common to get a little spray disconnecting, but had the relief valve blown in my face that would be serious… liquid propane will cause serious damage… be careful everyone…
What if aftér refilling shraider valve doesnt reseal
Don’t ever touch the one at the lower top, i have never had the main valve leak.
New small cylinder is 2 lbs.
watch at 2x speed. You won't miss anything. Except the excess time it went on even at 2x.
Also, numbers. 914-614 is a loss of 300 grams, I doubt the accuracy of the quoted figures.
No thumbs down yet, omg i want to so bad but the vid was ok lol
That I think it's for filling in the factory.🤔
You noted Gas as "Liquid", [tho under presser] would 'shaking' cause bubbles?
[3rd post purge] 15:54 was trying to time fill to compare. lol *Botched my 'study'* IF, 16:38 No label, you switched?
*Thanks*
Shaking it a bit just adds a tiny bit of energy... in the end just keep it hooked up as long as you like... it can only fill so much.
Nice vid...
I've been refilling for more than 20 years with a homemade adapter that my father braised together... not a single problem ever.
My advice is to stay away from the Schrader valve for bleeding. An appropriate sized Allen wrench on the main valve works great.
And oh for those not living in The Great White North or United Kingdom... empty is roughly one pound. Full (new), roughly two.
And the brass caps with seals on Amazon are highly recommended!
Thanks for the info and comment… I will check out the caps for sure …
Can this be done with the bernnzomatic torch skinny bottles too?
Yup…
@@kd_enterprise3404 cool, thx!
they are making up for lost revenue from people refilling the bottles,that's what's going on.
None of these videos seem to mention when you refill the small containers you've got approximately 5 minutes worth of flame time.
Hi Daniel, I’m uncertain what you mean… can u clarify… thanks.
Then you are doing it wrong. Mine last just as long as a store bought tank does.
Propane boils at -144 degrees F
First time I have seen or heard anyone mention boiling point! Kudos to the content creators to show this can be done. Been refilling tanks for many years for the sake of convenience even before we needed to do it to save 75%. Just learn that it isn't air that is being purged (let out) but valuable propane. Filling 14 green tanks after venting for 10 to15 seconds, at nearly full flow rate, will come at the expense of losing about an ounce of propane per purge. That's another green tank. Nothing like using a wobbly workmate that has the clamp top opened up, then covered with a towel, preventing one from seeing where to set and stabilize the full size tank. Love to watch folks demonstrate the safety practices of eye protection and gloves just to stand directly in front of a potential missile if a failure occurs. Stranger things have happened in industrial environments and that is where you have stepped when you start doing this stuff.
very clear thank you
Would you like to test propane refill hose with on off valve ?
Sounds like a good idea.
@@kd_enterprise3404 would you pleasee provide us your email ?
Ya burp it like a baby !! You can get more in a baby if you burp it.... more if it blorps all over your shoulder and you have to refill it.
976 GM ÷ 914 GM = 1.067 or 6.7% overfilled. As a chemist, I tell you and everyone, this is not "fine"/acceptable. Tanks freshly bought are filled according to federal legal standards. Do not exceed them. It's a safety matter. Otherwise, the video is useful.
Yeah cause the federal government is infallible...rolls eyes
@@MegaStairman Like any human construct it is not infallible, BUT thanks are filled by.ordinary humans with - generally - nearly no training in simple arithmatic, let alone in being precise. With more than 40 years in construction business, I KNOW how many guys claim to be carpenters and can't tell how many 1/16" marks they need to measure. They talk about "the littlest marks" etc. So hush, mouth, unless you know more than I do, which is extremely unlikely.
@@pahinhwinh3936 odds are I can teach you to be a good curved wooden stair carpenter where tape measures don't work regardless of how small the marks are...can you sharpen a ✏️
"Thanks" are filled? Regardless - the less training a person has, coupled with the incendiary danger of a material, the more precision is needed in order to fend off disaster. "An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of cure".. And "I'm sorry" never healed a wound or burn.
@@pahinhwinh3936 should stupid people be allowed to vote...drive...buy products you seem to be dangerous...your tiny brain cant fathom where this takes us can it
Oh
I keep empty in a freezer
Or if it's -10 outside you could just throw it in the snow dude instead of the freezer how about that
Yup, for sure, and likewise.. keep your main tank warm.. good day…
I started watching but had to quit. 1. Use a script. 2. Practice the script. 3. Run through the actual set up and fill until you have it perfected. 4. Stop saying "uh" and then pausing while you try to remember what comes next. You used 20 minutes to present 7 or 8 minutes of information.
In the US transportation of the little bottles is a federal offense if they have been refilled. I am not sure what Canadian law is, but I suspect it's probably the same.
When you scale your empty tank, just got the gate button. If your tank is rated for one pound it is probably not a good idea to exceed the rating.
But the good news is they have recently started selling one pound refillable cylinders with proper release valves so you can legally transport them, and you don't have to drink around with freezing the empties.