HOW TO REFILL Coleman Propane 1lb Fuel Cylinder Canister Tanks Bottles DIY For DIRT CHEAP
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- We show you how to DIY refill those 1 pound Coleman propane cylinder bottles that you find at camping stores for dirt cheap! Save $$$ refilling the 1lb canisters yourself from a 20lb 5 gallon propane tank using this cheap propane adapter. Get the Adapter here: amzn.to/3QX4Opn
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Q: Why don't you use a hose adapter from a 20lb? A: I do, but you need to run a $20 filter on the hose and drag a big tank around. There are times that is not practical and I've had TWO $30 hoses fail.
Q: Can't you overfill the 1lb canister? A: No, all propane tanks run the same pressure.
Q: Why don't you get a Flame King? A: Because they cost $30. You can buy a 20lb tank for that price defeating the purpose of this money saving hack.
Q: Isn't this dangerous??? A: Maybe. I've never had an issue. Do it AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Q: OMG isn't this is illegal? A: It's legal to refill, but not legal to transport DOT 39 refilled cylinders. You do so AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Q: Have you ever had one fail or leak? A: Not in 3 years but I do throw them out at any sign of wear.
Q: Why not open the relief valve while filling? A: Do not mess with the emergency relief valve! This can cause a leak.
Q: I'm a disagreeable. Can I post an angry and/or insulting comment? A: Your non sequitur ad hominem feeds my soul.
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** Q&A **
Q: Why don't you use a hose adapter from a 20lb? A: I do, but you need to run a $20 filter on the hose and drag a big tank around. There are times that is not practical and I've had TWO $30 hoses fail.
Q: Can't you overfill the 1lb canister? A: No, all propane tanks run the same pressure.
Q: Why don't you get a Flame King? A: Because they cost $30. You can buy a 20lb tank for that price defeating the purpose of this money saving hack.
Q: Isn't this dangerous??? A: Maybe. I've never had an issue. Do it AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Q: OMG isn't this is illegal? A: It's legal to refill, but not legal to transport DOT 39 refilled cylinders. You do so AT YOUR OWN RISK.
Q: Have you ever had one fail or leak? A: Not in 3 years but I do throw them out at any sign of wear.
Q: Why not open the relief valve while filling? A: Do not mess with the emergency relief valve! This can cause a leak.
Q: I'm a disagreeable. Can I post an angry and/or insulting comment? A: Your non sequitur ad hominem feeds my soul.
One time buy valve kit, one propane refillables, refillables online $32 for two ( Home Depot or Amazon when low season) last much longer and fills up more than disposable. It pays itself in long run.
Dragging the "heavy tank" around is no big deal (it's not that heavy) and it beats the hell out of waking cold in the middle of the night to change the one-pound tank on your Mr. Buddy heater, maybe twice per night if you use the high setting on the heater.
Yes, it is very possible to overfill, spec is liquid, 80% of volume. Lpg expands greatly with temp change. Too much liquid, ruptured tank. In fla, for example, bulk trucks are only filled to 80% to allow for temp change from morning to afternoon. Repeat, do not! Refill one pound tanks, is ilegal and dangerous for reason stated above! Lpg boils at -40F.
I have a hose that goes to my mr. Buddy to a 20 lb tank so can I use that hose to fill out the smaller green containers
I decided to get a 20lb tank and hose to go to the mr. Buddy so I will not have to change the little tanks so often and also would not run out in the middle of the night while I'm asleep but I wonder if I'm supposed to have a filter on it Does anybody know the video on youtube says just hook up to you hose to the 20 lb propane tank It is interesting it says it sales as a 20 pound Tank but on the tank it says 15 lb does that mean it only holds 15 pounds of gas? I don't know why? Not sure how to hook up propane tank to the mr. Buddy What is the correct way to do it Is there a problem if Can I use it in my house? Thank you
Look at the bottle sticker, just above the bar code. You will find the bottle manufacturing year. Quite important. I did refill a bottle from 2012, then screwed my burner on it and used it for a few times. Then one day I tried to unscrew the burner to remove it, the bottle started hissing ! The valve was stuck open. I had to screw back quickly the burner and kept using the bottle until empty. Then threw the bottle away. Keep in mind, those valves are not made to last forever. And make sure the bottle doesn't leak, put your finger with some soapy water over the opening to make a film and see if it bubbles.
Liquid propane will expand when it warms. You need to always make sure you leave around 20% vapour space in any LPG cylinder so there is room for expansion. Without this the cylinder can easily over pressure.
This advice may well end up saving my life in the future. Thank you.
There is one small but important step you left out. After filling and disconnecting the small tank, spray the valve with a soap solution to check for leaks. If the valve doesn't seal, attach it to your buddy heater or lantern to contain the propane and mark the tank so you don't fill it again.
I put brass caps on mine, available at Cabellas. There’s no leaking past that.
@@7heRedBaron I wasn't aware of those caps. I would still check for leaks both before and after installing the cap. It's cheap insurance against potential disaster.
Thank you, my eye were opened by the comparisons you gave. Safety first people, don't gamble with your life.
Before attaching small cylinder ... release some pressure from it using the schrader valve... this instantly chills this small tank improving results
Used to transfer refrigerants using a refrigerant hose from one tank to another. Important to know once you have 2 tanks hooked together there is no pressure difference between the two. The refrigerant in the cylinders were part liquid (on the bottom) and part gas (on the top) You could then transfer by gravity alone by putting the full tank above the empty tank and the liquid would flow to the bottom cylinder. Important to know here that propane acts just like this (it is actually used as a refrigerant) and with this method I think there could be a chance to completely fill the smaller cylinder. Not a problem if you use it right away, but if you fill it under cold conditions and then expose it to warmer conditions later, this liquid will expand and without a vapor cushion on top hydrostatic pressure will build up and rupture the bottle. We were never allowed to fill any refrigerant recovery tank over 80% of capacity because of this. Probably the best way to do this is get an accurate scale and weigh a factory filled canister and then try to match it . If the large propane cylinder has a one way check valve in may alter the way the gas and liquid flow but I am not positive about that because all I used were tanks without check valves.
Exactly
So how much should a little tank weigh when fill?
@@CyborgMaMa I don't know the weights, but the manufactures of the bigger tanks stamp a TR weight on the cylinders. This is short for tare weight, and that is the weight of the cylinder while empty. If they are one-pound cylinders (one pound of Propane) then just fill to the weight of one pound plus the tare weight of the cylinder. Please check with other sources for the actual amount of propane recommended for these cylinders. Again, I do not know if a tare weight is stamped on these small cylinders.
@@CyborgMaMa 1 lb more than when empty.
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You can get a full charge by burping the small bottles with a punch or drill bit for 4-5 seconds. do it with the bottle upright, depress the valve inside the threaded nipple, then fill again with the large tank. DO THIS OUTSIDE WITH NO IGNITION SOURCES NEARBY🔥, DO NOT MESS WITH THE VALVE ON THE BOTTLE ITSELF, it's a safety blow off valve that works opposite of the main valve. only do it 2 times, and weigh the bottle. it should be between 15-16 oz net, if its a little over, bleed it down with your punch.
I use these 1lb bottles with a big buddy propane furnace, and it's nice to get a full bottle run without having to get out of a nice warm sleeping bag :o)
Thanks brother
Nice to see the actual adapter operation. Thanks guys!
I'm glad this video found my suggested videos today. I have watched so many videos with the freezer. Now I know it's much easier than all those other videos make it look. Thanks!!!
I bought one of these adapters and I thank you. Seems to work very well and it is a serious cost savings in comparison to throwing away and buying new one lb. tanks.
Thanks for the tip Hobo & Billy 👍 Take care and God bless ✌️
I shared this on a prepping channel and a woman sent me several nasty E-mails about it calling me, Baby Doll and being quite derogatory, and clearly did not understand the point, She claimed it didn't save money, when obviously, it does, and can be done safely if one follows instructions properly. Thank you for the demonstration, I appreciate it.
Just because something hasn't happened doesn't mean it can't happen. You can buy a complete kit for between 35 and $60 depending upon if it's on sale and where you buy it then includes a canister a stand and the Valve & fittings to do it properly. You can also buy additional tanks for roughly 15 to $20 each so once your cost is recouped from refilling legal ones it's no different than the Coleman ones that expose you to extreme liability
I weigh mine after filling and I have set 900 grams, total weight, as my maximum fill weight. I have filled them to 919 grams, but I put it back on my griddle and run it for about five minutes to get it down around 900 grams. I use my baking scale to weigh the cylinders.
My brother does it by floating it in a bucket of water to verify the fill amount.
I'm gonna have go over his prosses again.
Just what I was looking for. Just ordered 2 from your Amazon page. Thanks for the video.
Around the 'foot' of the 20 pound tank there are some holes. You can use S-hooks or caribiners and a length of small chain or rope to hang the 20 pound tank upside down from a limb at a comfortable height instead of using that stool and kneeling down to do this. And just leave it hanging there until next time. No need for the flippy floppy.
I've heard you could do this, but I really needed to see it done. Thanks for the demo.
You can do it but this is not safe or legal. Flame king sells the only legal and DOT approved kit with Cylinders that are actually designed to be refilled and are legal to refill
Just mentioning that I really enjoy your videos. Thank you!
YEAHSSSSSSS! I did not know I could do this! I have not used any 1 lb. tanks yet and im glad I didint because I would have thrown them in the blue bin!!! I bought the Dozyant a few mins ago from your Amazon link, thank you so much and glad to support you L.W. Los Angeles, CA.
Very informative video you did a great job of explaining the process.
I stopped using the 1lb bottles because you can’t recycle or refill them. My mind is officially blown! So excited to refill my little green bottles. So much easier to carry for day trips.
Oh who cares if you can’t recycle. Another liberal
Been doing this for years. Saved a bundle at Burning Man.
@chris easly They didn't have it this year. Burning Man is expensive, but it's also a life-altering experience. There is no experience like it on the planet. It has almost nothing to do with most music/art festivals - and I've been to many others.
Certainly a money saver for the full timers !!!
I am a bit skeptical on that tank being filled. Half-filled maybe but I do think that you have to burp those tanks to get them full regardless of anything else. Nice video all the same. They do seem to be more informative when someone weighs the tanks before and after.
Thanks, just bought a buddy and the adapter, appreciate your very well done video!! Awesome.
Thank you for the awesome tip and demo!
Thanks for the video! I bought one for myself. Will try it out soon.
I love your channel professor Hobo!
Thanks for the bloopers! Great video on propane.
Billy should go into modeling. Ha
Good tip lads, always thought these tanks were an environmental disaster when you chuck them out when empty. Have ordered the adapter and hope all goes well. Good video, new subscriber.
Awesome, thanks for the video gentlemen!
Didnt know any of that. Thanks for the information and demonstration guys 😺
Little advise: never point the litte tank towords yourself when opening the big tank. If the adapter break you will get hurt serious.
@Adam Roberson ok mom
@Adam Roberson It is not illegal to refill one pound tanks for your own use. It is illegal to transport a disposable tank that has been refilled. This rule applies to commercial transport, not your private vehicle. Also, the little green tanks do have a pressure release valve.
Advice not advise.
I wear leather work gloves and eye protection, as well
@@zone4garlicfarm is this true?
Good tip guys thanks, stay warm!!! 🙃
So happy I found this video! It works! Thanks!
This was fantastic. Very much appreciated!
I guess Billy is the sacrificial lamb on this one if anything goes wrong with this lil refill project.
I’ve been doing this for years and have saved a small fortune. I put the small can in the freezer for a few hours to lower the pressure and it seems to fill better. And solicitations to you too! 😁
how many times is it safe to refill It 2-3 times ?
@@payoloscovknorris6596 That's just it. These are not certified for re-fill so there is simply no data that tells you- thus the legal restrictions. It might fail after years or after the first time. I presume the tank manufacturers have some idea- after all the tank has to handle the pressure changes from night time to day, not leak after being connected and disconnected multiple times etc. There's a bigger safety margin than the naysayers act like but they simply are not as robust as the re-fillable qualified ones. Flame King sells the re-fillable ones but they never seem to be available anywhere-always out of stock.
salutations?
Thank you for this. I recently bought a portable buddy and 20lb. tank. After watching tons of these fill videos and experimenting I found for me freezing empty 1lb'ers for 1 hour, having the large tank at about 60 deg. F., and fill for 1-2 minutes gives me a reliable 14-15 ounce fill, which is fine for me. I do not mess with the relief valve. Propane scares me and I'm a little alarmed that you guys seem a bit cavalier about overfilling the little canisters. I want a Big Buddy now, as I want a hose connection and am afraid to use the hose for the portable buddy which is tank/high pressure which can be 120 psi and up. I want the regulated hose for the big buddy which runs at 1/2lb. psi pressure. That will make me feel better.
Anyway, I just wanted to tell you my story and thank you for the well done and informative vid. Peace and good life to you.
You always have good videos. Thanks.
Thanks. So much for this didn't know that was possible. Will try it
Great video! Thanks, guys.
Thank you for the information.
Great video!
Hey guys, so, I did this for awhile. some 3-4 months, and I only used the refillable ones - that were MEANT for this. One morning I got up in my camper in Walmart parking lot, set up my stove and coffee percolator. Coffee boils, I put it in my thermos. I turn the stove off, and go to unscrew the propane tank(1 pound, refillable). As soon as I pull the adapter off the tank, it is billowing out propane into my motorhome. It is winter, and I have my Wave 8 Furnace running - Catalytic ventless. The propane was flowing FAST out of my tank, and my door lock got jammed just like in the movies( no joke, cold weather and it froze I think). I managed to get the door open after about 30 seconds of fighting with it, and the camper was already filled with propane. Threw the canister out into the pavement. I have NO idea why trhe furnace did not ignite the gas in the motorhome, but I do know I am very lucky. Went to the hospital for oxygen afterwards, to make sure I was good. Oxygen was low about 80%. Turns out the fill nozzle on the tank got stuck to the side, which is apparently much easier to do with the non refillables. That is the REAL reason not to do this.
Second, this takes forever to do.
Rollin Nerdy Why would you remove the 1 lb can before it was empty. Isn’t that inviting disaster?
@@7heRedBaron according to the instructions you're supposed to remove it after each use, though the other way it would probably be safer.
@@irnomo9784 I followed instructions to remove the canister from my torch after use and same thing happened to me. It was a new bottle not a refill. So the valves can go bad or get stuck first use.
I just bought a T connector with 2 10ft hoses. Runs 2 appliances at once. No little tanks needed
Mr buddy heaters sales a hose to go from the heater to a larger tank so you can do away with the 1 pounders.. we have many in the deer stands.. last all season!
sells, not sales.
He covered that in the video.
Man, you are out there!
Very helpful video. Thank you!
Excellent video.
Thanks so much! You’re my hero!
Got 2 the other day what a help Thankyou
The secret to running a little buddy like they are. Is to get a propane approved hose with an adjustable regulator. A low pressure regulator will not work on a mr. Heater. The pressure isn't enuff to get through the second regulator because there's also a regulator on the mr. heater But an adjustable regulator will as long as you adjust the pressure high enough which is only 5 to 10 pounds of pressure otherwise you can run a straight hose but then you have around 100 pounds of pressure in it. And I don't like using propane with that high of pressure in case the hose would fail. Manards has adjustable regulators the regulator is adjustable from 0 pounds to 20 pounds
Great video guys! Thanks
Thanks guys!
Ideally the adapter would be 90° so when you invert the 20# tank the 1# canister would be vertical with its connection facing up. After inverting the pair, depress the "vent" valve on the 1# canister with a small screwdriver to purge propane gas. Release the vent when cold liquid propane starts coming out and turn off your 20# tank. This will assure the highest quantity of liquid in the canister. The bottom of the vent on the canister should be at the 80% point similar to the outage valve on you RV tank. You'll end up with faster and more complete filling without having to worry about the temp of the tank or canister.
This is true, but most people don't want to mess with those valves including me. My luck I'd take pliers to it and it would start leaking. We've been getting at least 1 lb into the small canisters without doing anything special as long as the 20 lb tank is at least a third full. Granted your trick would work for when the 20 lb tank is approaching empty.
Thanks for the PRO tip!
@@HOBOTECH How can you tell if your getting 1lb into the small tank? Are you weighing the small tank before and after filling?
Great idea, thank you!
Great tip!
Cool beans! Thanks!
Smart 💡 idea. Another great video
Super helpful. Thank you.
GREAT TIP!
Great job guys...adding this part/tool to my equip/prep. Kitty is kool too..lol
Thanks for the demonstration. I think I would go with the bug tank and a hose.
awesome! thanks for the tip
Worth noting that it's a federal offence to transport a refilled 1# propane tank. Not sure how they would know, but for the rule followers, it's a consideration. That said, have been doing this for years. Don't forget to freeze the empty tank first tho, which is listed as an instruction on the packaging and allows for a full refill.
A federal prosecutor just might ruin your day
I never thought of refilling these. Just figured it would be a giant pain. I'm glad it's that easy.
PROBABLY BECAUSE THE LABLE ON THE TANKS TELL YOU IT IS AGAINST FEDERAL LAW TO DO SO.
@@fairrider3346 🤣😂
Wrong
Great tip!
🙂
Great information, thanks a lot.
Perfect, thanks guys.
The new large tanks have a system inside that blocks propane flow if the tank is not upright now.
Great video this is nothing to be afraid of. The most difficult thing is picking up the full container literally. There's all kinds of warnings about refilling them and transporting them even laws. Regardless of the size of your container LOL you're going to transport it. Even if you walked home. Thanks for the video Tom
Thanks for sharing. Now I know how to fill my tanks up I have a couple of them. Danny boy hasta la vista👍🏻😎 PS don’t forget your Manoe though and tortillas
Just what I needed. Thanks guys!!
Do not put the small tank in the freezer. I had a cylinder blow the valve set because it was overfull. Fortunately it was outside with no source of ignition and no-one too close. These small cylinders unfortunately have no burst disc.
Excellent demo for saving money and convenience of efficiency in filling up small propane gas containers with large propane containers .
I’ve heard the steel in the disposable tanks are thinner and are prone to rupture if refilled over and over to stress of the steel. Not sure if that’s true but the small refillable ones are thicker with bleed valves. The Manchester ones are incredibly thick with a separate control valve on the tank. I have those as well as the FlameKing which is somewhat thinner without separate control valve. I have refilled disposable as well as the refillable ones. I have pulled the pressure relief valves on the disposable ones to get more gas in too. The do leak afterwards sometimes.
My opinion is use the thicker tanks that lets the liquid out when ~80 percent full to be as safe as possible. It only takes one rupture to ruin your day.
I have been refilling these on my boat. My friend said it's dangerous. So just today i read the label while I was making dinner. I think I'll switch to an alcohol stove and cook with isopropyl
It's a good idea to put a Mr. Heater fuel filter kit on the end of the refill adapter if you want filtered propane. It might clog an orifice. The propane you buy for those 20-pound bottles can be dirty. The first time you open a propane bottle upside down is when the dirty stuff mostly oils blows out of it if it's never been done before.
Just an FYI, if no one else mentioned it, on the back of all disposable cylinders there's a warning about a $250,000 fine for transporting a refilled cylinder on the highway. I now refill using the DOT approved refillable cylinders. Much safer and a much better system.
Really should get a scale and weigh them out back to 29-30 oz. no more. You do not want to overfill them which could lead to unwanted venting of the bottle if they get hot. Just a safety tip. Overfilling is not good.
Hobotech why not use a 20 lb propane tank to power your little Buddy heater? Keep the tank outside and run a hose through a window/door to the little Buddy heater. With this method there's no need to change 1 lb cylinders several times a night.
If you need to force propane out of the big tank into the 1 lb cylinder while the big tank is inverted and hooked up to the 1 lb cylinder lightly tap the big tank repeatedly with a rubber mallet, not a metal hammer, this should force more propane into the 1 lb cylinder.
If you want to know how much propane you're getting into the 1 lb cylinder weigh the 1 lb cylinder before filling and after. That will tell you how full it is.
I do run my Buddy with a hose and filter off the 20 lb but I was showing how to refill the little tanks for people that don't want to do that. I'll have to try the rubber mallet method to see if it works.
Outstanding, be blessed.
For a couple dollars more than the adapter, you can buy a hose that goes from the big tank directly to the big buddy.
I usually fill the disposable bottles until they split open then back off a bit.
I bought the adapter, put the empty tank in the Freezer, hooked it up and Shazam! It filled it right up. I also used it to refill my 14.1 oz propane torch bottles.
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Do yourself a favor and buy the refillable tanks. It's illegal and somewhat dangerous to refill these disposable tanks because the emergency relief valve built into the disposable tanks isn't designed for fill and refill over and over and is quite fragile. The refillable tanks are like $14 and have a bleed valve built in so you can always get a proper fill regardless of temp. You just need a small Allen wrench to operate it.
Agreed...I bought some Flame King refillable 1 lb. cylinders and they work great. Easy to fill, more LP per fill, lawfully transportable and safer than refilling disposable cans. The container walls are thicker and the cylinders are certified for 12 years in the US. Don't take a chance that your refilled disposable is going to leak or that it gets overfilled and the relief valve pops off.
It's good for about 1 half a year. The bottles can take a lot more pressure than rated for, and they WILL rust inside eventually.....like I said your 100% ok doing this for a 1/2 year. I would not do any more than that......fuck your laws ;)
Yup, getting the flame king...I don't cut corners with safety. There are plenty of other places we waste money in our lives, this is not one of them.
@Vex T exactly I fill and haul them every time I go camping. Nobody can tell if you filled them or bought unless you volunteer info. NEVER VOLUNTEER INFO ON ANY SUBJECT!!!!!!
I just stay in my room.
Good tips guys. You can also get these adapters at Harbor Freight Tools.
Thanks that looks like I can do that!
Dude that is an awesome video! Definitely checking out your channel! Thank you
Fantastic. Just used one full can in one night, in the UK they are £15 that’s just under $20 for 1 1lb tank. That’s why I was looking. I’ll see if I can find an adapter. Cheers.
I usually stop at 1lb 13oz. The empty can being about 13oz. You don't think there's a chance of the pressure relief valve popping if you fill way over a pound of propane? If it did pop you could have one heck of a blow torch in your van Tom
Excellent buy!! I bought mine on Amazon back in March made by Mr. Heater which cost me $15.46 and it doesn't have the black hand grip that yours has which I wish I had... darn I paid too much!!!
Got mine at wallie world for seven bucks , all metal.
I've seen this before but you did a great job. Thanks
They did not discuss the safety aspects.
Iunno I found the little buddy heater just as good and mounts right to the tank. Also more reliable. The big buddy heater failed for me using the hose adapter to the 20 lb tank. Also here in canada the tanks after 2007 have a safety feature that if you dont have someone who knows what they are doing (turn that screw) you're losing 20% each fill from that float.
You can release the pressure with the value on the smaller green bottle. It fills up all the way.
Yeah for sure. I wouldn't fill it all the way up though it might pop if it gets warmed up after that (like if you left it in a car or garage or something on a hot day later). I'd leave a bit of air space in there but opening that valve surely lets you put more in and might make it fill faster.
May have been covered but i didn't want to read 400 comments. Love this video a lot. You should attach the small bottle as you did here and tilt the whole thing to put a 45 degree angle on the small bot to fill more liquid? Put the inverted large bottle on the edge of the table and tilt while refilling? Great post
I love my little buddies I love my little buddies have used them in my tents my RVs of even use them in the house when the furnace went out heat work phenomenal they do use a lot of gas though I would recommend if you're going to buy a little buddy in you're going to use a consistently by the hose for the 20 lb tank or buy the adapter so you can refill the one pounders because they do suck down the gas