#04 The greatest problem of today's world: Dunning-Kruger effect

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Komentáře • 991

  • @regularjim3193
    @regularjim3193 Před 2 lety +499

    I watched this video, now I'm an expert on Dunning-Kruger.

    • @irkhanbasc
      @irkhanbasc Před 2 lety +5

      Same here.

    • @nsnopper
      @nsnopper Před 2 lety +6

      😁😁😁😁😁

    • @michaeljohnangel6359
      @michaeljohnangel6359 Před 2 lety +8

      Very funny!!

    • @omcorc
      @omcorc Před 2 lety +10

      Now you have to venture out into the world with the absolute surety of your beliefs in and understanding of the Dunning-Kruger effect. Make sure to admonish anyone you can.

    • @Kaddywompous
      @Kaddywompous Před 2 lety +11

      I’m now an expert at spotting irony.

  • @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465
    @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 Před 2 lety +295

    I'm no genius, but I live by this: Always be willing to consider the possibility that you might be wrong.

    • @stevenvitali7404
      @stevenvitali7404 Před 2 lety +9

      Yes I see that now I'm 47, when I was younger I did not

    • @7788Sambaboy
      @7788Sambaboy Před 2 lety +10

      not sure where it came from, but my mother said, it's OK to be ignorant - it's not OK to keep opening one's mouth and keep proving it over and over

    • @stevenvitali7404
      @stevenvitali7404 Před 2 lety +4

      @@7788Sambaboy your mum is a wise lady

    • @irishdivajeffries6668
      @irishdivajeffries6668 Před 2 lety +2

      🤪🤪🤪

    • @skateboardingjesus4006
      @skateboardingjesus4006 Před 2 lety +3

      @@7788Sambaboy There's a lot of problems with that saying, but I can understand her disliking people who loudly advertise their ignorance. An ignoramus doesn't usually recognise they are.

  • @paulmarasia3379
    @paulmarasia3379 Před 2 lety +45

    For decades, I've lived by the saying: Just because I'm convinced, doesn't mean I'm right.

  • @ge2623
    @ge2623 Před 2 lety +40

    I always use a saying: "The problem with knowing everything; is you can't learn anything"

    • @Hal_T
      @Hal_T Před 2 lety +1

      Good. Here's something for you to learn: that semicolon does not belong in your sentence. Remove it and you have a perfectly fine sentence. Oh ... and put a period at the end of the sentence.

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye Před 2 lety +1

      @@Hal_T That's a colon, not a semicolon.

    • @Hal_T
      @Hal_T Před 2 lety

      @@TheCharleseye - The punctuation between "everything" and "is" is a semicolon.

    • @TheCharleseye
      @TheCharleseye Před 2 lety

      @@Hal_T Went right past me. I'll leave my reply and accept the shame.

    • @theoofer478
      @theoofer478 Před rokem

      Following up Hal’s correction, a semi-colon is used for separate clauses that are technically still in the same sentence. A semi-colon could be used in a sentence where someone states the location of a place, then makes a separate clause describing it. For example, “Our school is located in Sudan; it is extensively ventilated because the weather can get hot in the afternoon.”

  • @lizp5004
    @lizp5004 Před 3 lety +165

    "you can't reason ppl out of beliefs they weren't reasoned into"

    • @5retsam
      @5retsam Před 3 lety +5

      I really like this sentence.

    • @edithisaok580
      @edithisaok580 Před 2 lety +6

      Cool. I like that statement as well. I live down south, and idiotic people inundate the region.

    • @CaSteGra
      @CaSteGra Před 2 lety

      It's certainly not easy but it is possible. Sam Harris, Micheal Shermer and others talk about this as an attractive but not correct position.

    • @victorhopper6774
      @victorhopper6774 Před 2 lety

      nonsense. do you still believe in santa

    • @markgigiel2722
      @markgigiel2722 Před 2 lety

      @@victorhopper6774 Are you the Deep North Pole?

  • @kirklarson4536
    @kirklarson4536 Před 2 lety +26

    A wise person knows what they do not know. A fool knows everything.

  • @Valicroix
    @Valicroix Před 2 lety +51

    Every engineer (or at least the good ones) learns that there are four categories. (1) The things you think you know but don't. (2) The things you know. (3) The things that you know you don't know. (4) The things that you don't know that you don't know. Numbers #1 and #4 are the really scary ones that can cause disaster. What's terrifying is that #1 and #4 seem to be very common in today's world of misinformation.

    • @solarus2120
      @solarus2120 Před 2 lety +2

      I'm not an engineer by training - even if my job title contains that word - but I was taught a similar process, only this one was cyclic.
      1. Unconscious Incompetence. You don't know how much you don't know.
      2. Conscious Incompetence. Now you know how much you don't know.
      3. Conscious Competence. Now you know, but you have to pay attention to what you're doing.
      4. Unconscious Competence. Now you can just do it without thinking. Which leads back to Unconscious Incompetence if you're not careful.

    • @Valicroix
      @Valicroix Před 2 lety +1

      @@solarus2120 LOL! I like that. It's very, very true. Thanks for telling me. Now I know more than I did before your reply.

    • @Valicroix
      @Valicroix Před 2 lety

      @Kaos Nova That's very true. Certainly being able to explain how you know something increases the probability that it belongs in category (2) and not (1).

    • @Valicroix
      @Valicroix Před 2 lety

      @Kaos Nova Which is one reason why peer reviews are so important.

  • @bushputz
    @bushputz Před 2 lety +87

    Thank you for the reminder to questions one's beliefs.
    There is a T-shirt that says: "Don't Believe Everything You Think"
    Everybody should have one.

    • @victorhopper6774
      @victorhopper6774 Před 2 lety +1

      if i wants it i just take it'' said a guy who is getting free meals for life. he don't play games.

    • @reidsimonson
      @reidsimonson Před 2 lety

      Don’t believe your lying eyes and ears. Couldn’t agree more.

  • @armondedge4187
    @armondedge4187 Před 2 lety +5

    At age 22 I thought I knew it all. At age 82, I know damn near nothing.

  • @RodCornholio
    @RodCornholio Před 2 lety +136

    Dunning-Kruger folks can make SERIOUS incomes. When they project overconfidence, people believe them and hand over their money to solve their problem. Best sales people - especially when combined with high psychopathy and extroversion.

    • @KH4444444444N
      @KH4444444444N Před 2 lety +15

      I am an Account Executive in the IT Industry and I sell with integrity on-high. I win alot of business, but when I lose, It is usually because of a huckster like the type you mention. Overpromising and underdelivering to get the ink on the docusign. No integrity, no scruples. Shifty and untrustworfhy.

    • @glennjohn3824
      @glennjohn3824 Před 2 lety

      Being a competent salesperson and successful deal maker has much more to do with personal attention and emotional intelligence. Sounds like you're bitter.

    • @KH4444444444N
      @KH4444444444N Před 2 lety +20

      @@glennjohn3824 Sounds like you're a huckster.

    • @RodCornholio
      @RodCornholio Před 2 lety +2

      @@glennjohn3824 True at a company or in a business that has an ethically good culture. That opportunity was not available in my neck of the woods.
      The top conmen at my workplace were diabolical to the point of being named in lawsuits and having their lives threatened by customers they ripped off. Literally, and seriously, a victim said "If I see XYX, I'm going to shoot them." These sales people were proud when they made the customer cry (not tears of joy), because it was a huge indication they would be making a deal/sale.

    • @glennjohn3824
      @glennjohn3824 Před 2 lety +4

      @@RodCornholio so...with people like that around you, you're saying it's difficult to project a clear distinction between your business and theirs..? Dude I been painting houses for almost 35 years and I can go anywhere in the world and be qualified and competent at what I do. I used to tell my guys when they complained about other people's bad work that it's those shit jobs that make me double the price to do it right. Show up. Say what you mean and mean what you say. Be direct and polite and be on time. If you can't separate yourself from the trash you have other things to be working on before business.

  • @kevincox3698
    @kevincox3698 Před 2 lety +41

    Our society may be making this natural tendency worse with "Everyone is a Winner" coddling of children. You learn more from failure. Failure will force you to see how little you know. Understanding failure is a vital part of learning to succeed.
    Learning that just because you believe it does not make it true is critical.

    • @ImJetixz
      @ImJetixz Před 2 lety +3

      This comment is highly underrated

    • @nonyadamnbusiness9887
      @nonyadamnbusiness9887 Před 2 lety +3

      In the US, we have been on a quest to legislate away failure for over a century. The result in many instances has been to turn frequent small local failures into infrequent large national failures. It will be interesting to see if this coddling you speak of will lead to a total failure of society. Then everyone will learn to understand failure at the same time.

    • @skeetermcswagger0U812
      @skeetermcswagger0U812 Před 2 lety

      So what you're trying to say is 'participation awards' are anti-productive? No way! LOL!

    • @mattdonlan7745
      @mattdonlan7745 Před 2 lety +2

      Failure is the best teacher, but only if you recognize your failures.

  • @joshuamorrison8332
    @joshuamorrison8332 Před 2 lety +12

    My level of confidence is always informed by my knowledge. As a result so many people throughout my life have underestimated me. It goes as far as people judging me for having low self esteem. I don't have low self esteem I simply think that most people have irrationally high self esteem. In my opinion, modern American culture absolutely encourages the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • @deandupont5503
    @deandupont5503 Před 2 lety +111

    An excellent and concise explanation.
    My only issue is "The Dunning-Kruger Effect" sounds like a prog-rock band from the Seventies. Loads of synth solos and complex time signatures.

    • @muttgooch
      @muttgooch Před 2 lety +17

      I remember seeing The Dunning-Kruger Effect at the Filmore east in 73, man. but I was doing a lot of acid back then So it just might have been a Yes concert.

    • @stevejordan7275
      @stevejordan7275 Před 2 lety +9

      @Dean DuPont Well, at 5:30, she says "Police share this video..."
      Funny, I didn't think of them as prog-rock, but at least they're setting a good example.

    • @deandupont5503
      @deandupont5503 Před 2 lety +5

      @@muttgooch I think I was at the same show, but I believe it was Emerson Lake and Palmer. (Then again, I was stoned on quaaludes, so it could have been the Banana Splits, for all I know.)

    • @stephenlitten1789
      @stephenlitten1789 Před 2 lety +6

      @@deandupont5503 I thought it was King Crimson, but then I was smashed on smack

    • @randysteele6741
      @randysteele6741 Před 2 lety +2

      As well as inflated egos and sense of superiority.

  • @DrunkenUFOPilot
    @DrunkenUFOPilot Před 2 lety +17

    Having watched this video, I am now a world-class expert on Dunning-Kruger! :)

  • @grayfool
    @grayfool Před 2 lety +14

    I read somewhere, sometime ago, "The more you learn, the more you realise you don't know". Not sure who said it but it has always been proven to be true throughout my life.

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 Před 2 lety +2

      That's what I always say. I came to that formulation some time ago...

    • @titolovely8237
      @titolovely8237 Před 2 lety +1

      i think that was Plato

  • @simonlangmead7
    @simonlangmead7 Před 2 lety +11

    It takes a lot of knowledge, to know what you don’t know.

  • @eh567
    @eh567 Před 4 lety +103

    Great summation. As said by someone wiser than me: "The more I see, the less I know".

    • @aimeechristinebarrios5879
      @aimeechristinebarrios5879 Před 3 lety

      Thankyou for discussing this ❤️

    • @fekkyb
      @fekkyb Před 3 lety +2

      Maybe the “wise” should get glasses? 🤓😎🤩👀🤔🧐

    • @kevint1910
      @kevint1910 Před 2 lety +2

      the graph she is using is fake. the curve from Dunning-Kruger looks nothing like that it does not deviate from the test result by more than a few points and is not sinuous at all. there was a different study with different parameters that was done later under a different name that produced a slightly sinuous curve BUT again this study does not deviate from the testing result by more than a few points and AGAIN the curve looks nothing like this. this entire meme from back to front top to bottom is a fraud. every part of the study is misrepresented here.

    • @lawrencechristopherskufcaj4286
      @lawrencechristopherskufcaj4286 Před 2 lety +1

      You know Socrates? I'm jealous 😜

    • @dorianphilotheates3769
      @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 2 lety +2

      «EN ΟΙΔΑ, Ο,ΤΙ ΟΥΔΕΝ ΟΙΔΑ” - ΣΩΚΡΑΤΗΣ.

  • @michaeljohnangel6359
    @michaeljohnangel6359 Před 2 lety +18

    “… the best lack all conviction, while the worst are full of passionate intensity.” From Yeats's poem, "The Second Coming"

    • @zerubbablestranger6970
      @zerubbablestranger6970 Před 2 lety

      Of course he could be wrong about that.

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 Před 2 lety +1

      The Centre, most certainly, cannot hold...and this is why Anarchy will be loosed upon the World...

    • @michaeljohnangel6359
      @michaeljohnangel6359 Před 2 lety

      @@mikeoglen6848 Absolutely true. Yeats was Irish, and my wife is Irish; she told me that the Irish are blessed with a profound understanding of the world, but cursed with a complete inability to deal with it.
      Best wishes, Mike. Happy Christmas (or should that be Happy Mithras?) to you and yours!!

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 Před 2 lety

      @@michaeljohnangel6359 And a Very Happy Christmas and a Prosperous New Year to you and yours, Michael.

    • @eric2500
      @eric2500 Před 2 lety

      Poets always know the truth well ahead of the analytical and methodical disciplines.

  • @Optimistprime.
    @Optimistprime. Před 2 lety +33

    Man, this is no more true then now! We are all guilty of this to some degree, but I wish more people would know that things are not black and white or the first thing you read isn't always the end of the story. Nuance is something most people don't do well. This was a great video!

    • @zerubbablestranger6970
      @zerubbablestranger6970 Před 2 lety +2

      Of course you could be wrong about that.

    • @thomasmaughan4798
      @thomasmaughan4798 Před 2 lety +1

      "We are all guilty of this to some degree"
      That is correct. All humans are subject to the D-K effect. What it does NOT mean is all people think they are smarter than they actually are (never mind the difficulty of determining "actual"). Stupid people tend to think they are smarter (tending to normal intelligence), but it does the other way too; brilliant people also consider themselves tending to normal intelligence and thus under-estimate their actual intelligence.

  • @Ender7j
    @Ender7j Před 2 lety +5

    There is a void inside each person in which ego fills it where knowledge and self-awareness does not.

  • @Diomedes01
    @Diomedes01 Před 2 lety +3

    That graph showcases in a nutshell why so many celebrities manifest overconfidence and a complete lack of self awareness. They spend a small amount of time pretending to be a doctor, or a scientist, or a police officer. And then suddenly, they think they are an expert on the subject. And because of their visibility, they can sway large numbers of people despite actually having very little knowledge on the topic. It's a combination of the Dunning-Kruger effect and the logical fallacy of appeal to authority.

  • @Ogrematic
    @Ogrematic Před 2 lety +5

    Hence the term, "He knows enough to get someone hurt."

  • @vincentm7357
    @vincentm7357 Před 2 lety +4

    I’ve hit the valley of humbleness a few times in my life and strangely enough, I felt better about things vs. when I thought I was ‘an expert’.

  • @Gk2003m
    @Gk2003m Před 2 lety +26

    3:40: and the problem with this is that the folks who most desperately need to increase their knowledge are exactly the ones who believe themselves knowledgeable already, and therefore believe they don’t need to increase their own knowledge! At Xmas time last year, a cousin put it to me thusly: “there are two things in the world I’m sure about, and those are my politics and my religion.” Given these are the least certain things in the realm of human consideration, it takes true ignorance to proclaim oneself ‘sure’ of them.

    • @victorhopper6774
      @victorhopper6774 Před 2 lety +1

      yet i have not lost at tic tac toe in 65 years. D&K suffer from D&K.

    • @danielebowman
      @danielebowman Před 2 lety +2

      It si amplified by social media, people think they understand a complex issue via headlines and brief synopses. Some of the worst examples are well educated people who have expertise or knowledge in one field, but think some brief reading makes them experts in others.
      It's actually a huge problem in the mainstream media. Talking heads think they are right about everything.

  • @jordanf451
    @jordanf451 Před 2 lety +5

    Socrates: The only thing I know is that I know nothing.
    The Oracle: Hence, you are the wisest men in the world.

    • @bearchow1929
      @bearchow1929 Před 2 lety +1

      A good reminder that wisdom and knowledge are not the same thing.

    • @Ogrematic
      @Ogrematic Před 2 lety +1

      "I was pondering the immortal words of Socrates, who said, 'I drank what?'"
      Chris Knight

  • @MrOppes-tl4pn
    @MrOppes-tl4pn Před 2 lety +4

    Thank you for posting this, I am now able to claim myself an Expert on Dunning-Kruger!

  • @matthewdragomir2261
    @matthewdragomir2261 Před 2 lety +25

    Great video. I see this all the time when mostly speaking to theists about their god belief. They are 100 percent certain that their god exists but have absolutely no basis or evidence for the claim other than "I just know" or "you have to have faith". Faith is not a process by which to obtain knowledge, it's a process by which to obtain unfounded certainty which in turn leads to confident ignorance.

    • @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465
      @mulekickhandmadeguitars8465 Před 2 lety +3

      Those theists have will not ask you to prove that God does not exist. So, next time, make yourself present your proof. Merry Christmas.

    • @Ogrematic
      @Ogrematic Před 2 lety +2

      "Religion is a crutch for the weak who desire safety in numbers."
      Ted Nugent

    • @brucetucker4847
      @brucetucker4847 Před 2 lety +4

      You seem pretty confident yourself about your complete understanding of the nature of truth and knowledge and the impossibility of anything existing outside the bounds of your personal knowledge. That's pretty much the definition of Dunning-Kruger.

    • @Ogrematic
      @Ogrematic Před 2 lety +1

      @@brucetucker4847 Condescending prick.

    • @donshields2379
      @donshields2379 Před 2 lety +1

      Expending time and energy to argue something that you don't think is real. Why put so much effort unless you don't want to be proven wrong?

  • @bentrider
    @bentrider Před 2 lety +7

    The greatest problem of today's world has never changed. It has always been the fact that humans are not perfect.

    • @thomasmaughan4798
      @thomasmaughan4798 Před 2 lety

      "It has always been the fact that humans are not perfect."
      Obviously I am not human for I am perfect.

    • @bentrider
      @bentrider Před 2 lety

      @@thomasmaughan4798 😀

  • @whatshisname3304
    @whatshisname3304 Před 2 lety +4

    ever since I was a child I have wanted to have experienced this dunning Kruger attitude towards certainty. all you can wish for is clarity of mind and self-honesty. true complete certainty is very difficult to obtain.

  • @philipmcniel4908
    @philipmcniel4908 Před 2 lety +8

    The problem is, not everything that LOOKS like the Dunning-Kruger Effect actually is. For instance, there are almost certainly some people who appear (to YOU) to be very confident in their own opinions, who actually have only a small or moderate confidence in their own opinions but doubt the opinions of people who know more than them. Doubting the opinions of experts doesn't necessarily mean that someone is confident in his own opinion; it simply means he isn't confident in theirs--perhaps because he's seen evidence of incompetence, bias, or poor outcomes in their decision-making in the past.
    Examples: A medical student who hasn't yet gotten his graduate degree, but already realizes that professional researchers on a certain topic didn't use proper control groups in their research on a medical treatment, or an average Joe who's been told conflicting advice from nutritional experts his whole life (Eat eggs! Don't eat eggs! OK now, just eat the yolk! Fats and oils are bad for you! Wait, fats are still bad for you, but oils are good!), and now every time he hears new expert opinions on whether a certain food is good or bad for you, he thinks, "Just wait a few years--they'll change their minds again."

    • @philipmcniel4908
      @philipmcniel4908 Před 2 lety +5

      Actually, I think this explains a lot: When you grow up hearing your teachers and trusted experts say that there's a coming ice age for you to hear, and then they change their minds and say it's "global warming," and now they're using the more open-ended term "climate change," at the same time as those dietary experts are changing their minds, and opinions on some other areas of science are changing, you get the idea that ALL expert opinions are, at least potentially, passing fads (and/or that they are determined by the funding sources for the research rather than anyone's actual expertise: "I wouldn't trust research funded by Big Tobacco about the health effects of their product, so why would I trust government-funded climate-change research to be unbiased about the need to give the government more money and power to fight climate change? Big Tobacco's in it for the money, and the people in government are in it for the money and power too,").

    • @irkhanbasc
      @irkhanbasc Před 2 lety +2

      That's an excellent point, but what you have described is not the Dunning-Kruger effect but rather a (possibly valid) skepticism based on receiving conflicting information.

    • @eric2500
      @eric2500 Před 2 lety

      @@irkhanbasc It's valid only if it leads to inquiry with an open mind, otherwise it is just that poor sad guy who never learned that we learn more as we go along, and that there is bias, yes, but reality is still real.
      He ends up believing it is all BS, that no one knows anything at all, and that he might as well have nothing but processed sugar, fat, and artificial fruit flavor for breakfast.
      Every day. Just because he lives until age 70 and does not kick off at 40 does NOT mean he was right to reject the good nutrition advice, but he will die thinking so.

  • @TheBenjaporn
    @TheBenjaporn Před 2 lety +8

    After watching this video, I have so much more confidence based on the fact that I lack confidence.
    Interesting video and I like the advice at the end!

  • @brunaburg9377
    @brunaburg9377 Před 2 lety +2

    To the university student, the more I learn about, more I realise I have so much more to learn.
    Or, for the only slightly educated, I've learned everything from my evening class so I must know everything there is to know.

  • @fireprooff9922
    @fireprooff9922 Před 2 lety +3

    I my high school that was a big problem. All of the smarter kids were more self conscious and doubtful and the not so smarter kids were always overconfident. it got to the point were if people thought you were smart you would be seen as a beta male and if you were stupid you were a king.

    • @victorhopper6774
      @victorhopper6774 Před 2 lety

      high school is the age at which people were naturally doing something more important. its called reproducing. is it logical of course not ,but it is.

  • @joezanella8949
    @joezanella8949 Před 2 lety +6

    I am sure that the people you should be learning from this have not watched it as they already know.

  • @drhandle4498
    @drhandle4498 Před 2 lety +2

    This is an accurate summary of doing a PhD. Especially the 'never reaching the peak of ignorant confidence ever again' bit.

  • @annsorensen2373
    @annsorensen2373 Před 2 lety +2

    SO TRUE!! Thank you, Trae! Love ya back, and keep making these video's, the world needs to hear what you have to say!!!

  • @jimmyb3158
    @jimmyb3158 Před 2 lety +11

    Thank you for your video, very informative. Dunning-Kruger effect is especially dangerous with religion. Religion teaches that they have all the answers and in most cases discourage curiosity. Very dangerous especially when some religions expect 100% obedience to the point of dying for your religion in some cases.

    • @victorhopper6774
      @victorhopper6774 Před 2 lety +1

      given the time at which most religions started the odds were in favor of those that followed a group. even if much of what the group believed was wrong. you may be smart and right but there is such a thing as becoming ''dead right''.

    • @pflume1
      @pflume1 Před 2 lety +1

      This comment is a great example of your own Dunning-Kruger effect.

    • @jimmyb3158
      @jimmyb3158 Před 2 lety

      @@pflume1 please explain

    • @pflume1
      @pflume1 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jimmyb3158 you made at least 3 statements in your comment that you made with complete confidence that are very inaccurate. Most Religious people aren't dangerous. A great many charitable organizations, schools and Hospitals are Religiously affiliated. The answers most Religions talk about spiritual life and most of the founding scientists were Religious , so much for lack of curiosity. . As for 100% obedience that would be something like the military. Society and some put pressure on individuals to obey it's rules. So thank you for providing a great example of someone confidence in their ingornance.

  • @pegasusted2504
    @pegasusted2504 Před 2 lety +3

    I have often had those around me be surprised at the breadth of knowledge I have in different subjects and just basic general knowledge and they generally are like " wow you know lots, you're real clever. How do you know all this stuff?" My reply is "I know a little bit about a lot of subjects but not a great deal about any one thing" The thing I have found is the more you know the greater understanding of how little you actually know. As you get exposed to more and more knowledge it increases your ability to comprehend just how little you know. I have often wondered if there is some change point of level of knowledge taking you from "I think I know everything" to "I realise now how little I know".

  • @roberth5767
    @roberth5767 Před 2 lety +2

    Less than 63K views in 2.5 years? More people need to see this video.

  • @titolovely8237
    @titolovely8237 Před 2 lety

    ive always found that as my knowledge of a subject grows, the more my blind spots become obvious, leading to doubting yourself as you become more competent.

  • @user-oc9oy5rb5l
    @user-oc9oy5rb5l Před 3 lety +29

    I’ve watched other videos on this but she literally explains it the best, wow, thank you so much this helped a lot.

    • @TheLifeOfKane
      @TheLifeOfKane Před 2 lety +1

      She literally explained it wrong on every level, she used the wrong graph, made up assumptions and mentioned Cognitive Biases
      Sounding smart doesn't make it a good explanation, this is backwards and teaches you wrongly.
      Period.

    • @JayWozz
      @JayWozz Před 2 lety +5

      @@TheLifeOfKane After reading the actual study, "Unskilled and Unaware of It: How Difficulties in Recognizing One's Own Incompetence Lead to Inflated Self-Assessments", I'm failing to see where she is that far off. Please, enlighten me.

    • @mikeoglen6848
      @mikeoglen6848 Před 2 lety

      @@TheLifeOfKane How can you be so certain of that?

    • @jeremydas723
      @jeremydas723 Před 2 lety

      @@JayWozz If you read the actual study then you'll know that the first graph in the video (at about 45s) is not the Dunning Kruger effect.

    • @JayWozz
      @JayWozz Před 2 lety

      @@jeremydas723 Right, but the other two graphs (the only two she claimed were from the study) were in the study. The first one was clearly an illustration to emphasize the overall idea, which is why she says (in not so great English) "in simplicity, this effect can be expressed in the graph".
      Keep in mind that I never claimed her explanations were perfect. I just insinuated that the claim, "she literally explained it wrong on every level", is on every level absurd. 🙂

  • @bearchow1929
    @bearchow1929 Před 2 lety +7

    I've always heard it as: it is good to have some healthy self-doubt. And on the subject of the internet: Everyone is an expert, and it is like the blind leading the blind.

    • @zerubbablestranger6970
      @zerubbablestranger6970 Před 2 lety

      Of course you could be wrong about that.

    • @bearchow1929
      @bearchow1929 Před 2 lety

      ​@@zerubbablestranger6970I don't believe anything I write or say. I regard belief as a form of brain damage, the death of intelligence, the fracture of creativity, the atrophy of imagination. I have opinions but no Belief System (B.S.)

  • @alexis2620
    @alexis2620 Před 2 lety +2

    ABSOLUTELY loved this!

  • @nunocorreia5570
    @nunocorreia5570 Před 4 lety +3

    Excellent, the best I listen about the subject

  • @jamesvarrone7062
    @jamesvarrone7062 Před 4 lety +7

    Very well explained! Good information and good advice!

  • @planckc1
    @planckc1 Před 2 lety +3

    I know I am a subject to Dunning-Kruger effect: I always grossly underestimate myself on everything.

  • @bradcohenfsa2832
    @bradcohenfsa2832 Před 2 lety

    Really enjoyed this video. While I often find myself having biases, and arguing on them, I also habitually remind myself that there are three kinds of arguments - one to prove I'm right, one to prove you're wrong, and one to seek out the truth. Always try to do the latter.

  • @fredorman2429
    @fredorman2429 Před 2 lety +2

    The public schools dumb us down increasing our confidence and Dunning-Kruger escalates.

  • @jimclayton4697
    @jimclayton4697 Před 3 lety +4

    This is the bbest explanation of DKE that I've yet heard... and good advice too.

  • @thehotyounggrandpas8207
    @thehotyounggrandpas8207 Před 2 lety +3

    I'm glad I watched: now I'm an expert on the Dunning-Kruger effect.

  • @TmRnBn
    @TmRnBn Před 2 lety +2

    As long as we're tossing around quotes: People who think they know everything are a great annoyance to those of us who do. - Isaac Asimov

    • @eric2500
      @eric2500 Před 2 lety

      Mr. Asimov was a ranking egomaniac, but he had a sense of humor about it. Know Thyself. It helps.

    • @TmRnBn
      @TmRnBn Před 2 lety

      @@eric2500 Dr. Asimov had a self deprecating sense humor. I mean, as a writer who wrote some of the most far-reaching material of his time, he was scared of travel and hardly ever left New York City--and he was not ashamed of stating it. I believe that the above quote had a second or third level to it meant for folks who knew him.

  • @Bricky-gs3lp
    @Bricky-gs3lp Před 2 lety +2

    "A fool who knows he is a fool can at least be said to have some wisdom, but a fool who thinks he is wise is a fool indeed" The Buddha

  • @peach495
    @peach495 Před 2 lety +23

    An intelligent person might say something like this: I have an excellent vocabulary.
    A person with Dunning-Kruger: I got the best words.

    • @russtaylor2122
      @russtaylor2122 Před 2 lety +8

      Really the best words. Marvellous words. Fantastic ones. People always say 'sir you have the best words. Not fake news... Guess who?

    • @Soapandwater6
      @Soapandwater6 Před 2 lety +6

      "I know words. I have the best words."

    • @atomiccritter6492
      @atomiccritter6492 Před 2 lety +4

      @@Soapandwater6 the bestest words

    • @Soapandwater6
      @Soapandwater6 Před 2 lety +3

      @@atomiccritter6492 Be best.

    • @LuckyFlesh
      @LuckyFlesh Před 2 lety +1

      Nope.
      The person that says "I have the best words." Is speaking plainly so that everyone can understand him or her.
      It's about being an effective communicator.
      The fact that you didn't know this means that YOU are the one suffering from the Dunning Kruger effect.

  • @dorianphilotheates3769
    @dorianphilotheates3769 Před 2 lety +3

    I’m ALWAYS right - infallible, in fact. I thought I was wrong once, but as it turned out, I was mistaken...phew!😓

  • @malizee2264
    @malizee2264 Před 2 lety

    Thank you!

  • @sinafeissaly9054
    @sinafeissaly9054 Před 3 lety +2

    This was a really helpful video. Thanks so much!

  • @gailsgig
    @gailsgig Před 2 lety +3

    Excellent explanation. Facts and opinion are not the same.

  • @rolandfrancis7066
    @rolandfrancis7066 Před 2 lety +3

    It reminds me of my good old Uncle Ray saying '' Beware the half - learned people ''

  • @robertkennedy8503
    @robertkennedy8503 Před 2 lety +1

    “The best thing about being dead is that you don't know about it. It's like being stupid, it's only painful for others.”

  • @terrycole2407
    @terrycole2407 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for this!

  • @mito88
    @mito88 Před 2 lety +3

    “Whenever people agree with me I always feel I must be wrong.”
    Oscar Wilde

    • @johnnygoodman2003
      @johnnygoodman2003 Před 2 lety +1

      "You is what you ain't"
      Frank Zappa

    • @mito88
      @mito88 Před 2 lety

      @@johnnygoodman2003 I am not young enough to know everything....
      Oscar Wilde

  • @antonbonin5003
    @antonbonin5003 Před 2 lety +23

    This is something I've noticed about Indian men in the tech and engineering industry. They're always so confident, and people have a bias that Indians/Asians are so good at tech jobs. After having to work with them, I've learned they're the most ignorant, and talentless people in the industry. But oh my God are they certain they're right. And they ALWAYS apply for the higher tech jobs that a lot of other people are not confident to apply for, and therefore ALWAYS get the higher paying positions. It's definitely to do with their culture, but it's frustrating working with a senior engineer that is dumber than a box of rocks and won't work with anyone because they're sure they know more than you.

    • @antonbonin5003
      @antonbonin5003 Před 2 lety +7

      @Richard Fox The true irony here is you displaying true characteristics of the DK effect. You clearly don't have any expertise or knowledge in identifying offensive and inaccurate characterisations of people based on racial stereo-types, yet you were confident enough about the subject that you felt the need to leave this comment. This shows how little you truly understand the subject matter, which is: "The generalized anecdotal experience Anton Bonin has had with Male, culturally Indian engineers in a work environment."

    • @vanman4842
      @vanman4842 Před 2 lety +3

      OJ is innocent. Right?

    • @antonbonin5003
      @antonbonin5003 Před 2 lety +5

      @Richard Fox This is what I mean, you have no idea you're wrong.
      Racism: prejudice, discrimination, or antagonism directed against a person or people on the basis of their membership in a particular racial or ethnic group, typically one that is a minority or marginalized.
      And in case you need prejudice defined
      Prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
      My experience is ENTIRELY based on actual experience, and I even provided a logical reasoning for why I believe I'm experiencing it. My God you don't even realize you're dumb XD

    • @antonbonin5003
      @antonbonin5003 Před 2 lety +4

      @Richard Fox Re-read the definition. It's not race, it's ethnicity. And I don't discriminate against anyone.
      This is DK in effect. You don't know, so you assume you know, and you're extremely confident you do know. You're such a tool, lol

    • @antonbonin5003
      @antonbonin5003 Před 2 lety +4

      @Richard Fox Prejudice: preconceived opinion that is not based on reason or actual experience.
      I clearly detail my experience, and even the reasoning to which I arrived on the opinion.
      Sounds like you think you know what you're talking about, when you don't even know the definition of prejudice.

  • @ernestweeks3529
    @ernestweeks3529 Před 2 lety +1

    This is true and I always find that the really confident ones lacking the actual knowledge on the subject being debated, respond better when you empathize with them before trying to present the information they're lacking in the subject.
    Such as - I know right thought the same thing until I found out 'such n such'! No one enjoys being ridiculed or being made to feel inferior.

  • @robertsullivan4773
    @robertsullivan4773 Před 2 lety

    Thank you, I needed to be reminded of this.

  • @c.b.4270
    @c.b.4270 Před 2 lety +3

    2021: Dunning- Krüger has a all-time high in our new government here in Germany.

  • @defiverr4697
    @defiverr4697 Před 3 lety +6

    This video should be required watch for all millennials and Gen-z's.

    • @iamreg1965
      @iamreg1965 Před 2 lety +5

      Ignorance is not the monopoly of the young.

    • @witzelasper2821
      @witzelasper2821 Před 2 lety +1

      @@iamreg1965 that is the truest statement I've read so far

    • @irkhanbasc
      @irkhanbasc Před 2 lety +1

      I'm a 54-year-old Gen Xer. Some of the dumbest, most opinionated people I have ever met were my age or older. In my experience, some of the younger Boomers (born 1955-1963) are the worst. They are also remarkably spoiled and self-centered, thinking that everyone should think like them and not being aware of current realities.

  • @tipple58
    @tipple58 Před 2 lety +2

    Excellent presentation.

  • @dee4435
    @dee4435 Před 2 lety

    It's December 2021, and oh boy does this video make sense. Well done!

  • @stephenpowstinger733
    @stephenpowstinger733 Před 2 lety +3

    I’m not sure what Dunning-Kruger has to do with procrastination but it is a widespread problem that affects most of us.
    Many religious people lead responsible lives but religiosity, the opening up of the mind to non-perceptual, non-logical input, is an invitation to grievous error and tragic mistake.

  • @BenWillyums
    @BenWillyums Před 2 lety +9

    Here's a study that 'proves' you should continue to trust the known liars and abusers despite all logic and reason. “The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command.”
    ― George Orwell, 1984

  • @cjcorallo5775
    @cjcorallo5775 Před 2 lety

    Now I feel like I'm supper smart because I have no self confidence. But then again realizing I'm not as smart as others gives me more confidence, and therefore I must be smarter!

  • @cnr9940
    @cnr9940 Před 2 lety +2

    People who so readily throw this term around often give the impression that they think it can't also apply to them.

  • @Puzzledrev
    @Puzzledrev Před 2 lety +3

    How much does upbringing affect this? My cousin and I grew up in homes where our parents had no problem admitting that they didn't know things or that they were wrong about something. They looked for competent sources and expected the same of us. Our children and grandchildren are the same, as are our grandchildren.

    • @mazmo2005
      @mazmo2005 Před 2 lety +2

      It's a long time ago but I think my young observations of a parent that constantly displayed absolute certainty (mostly about their religion) is what led me to skepticism and a desire to understand reality properly, which led me to science. I could be wrong though ;-)

  • @pb9240
    @pb9240 Před 2 lety +7

    Can’t this effect be associated with one’s ego? It’s hard to say “I don’t know or that I was wrong” with a huge ego.

  • @ex-engineer6657
    @ex-engineer6657 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for producing and sharing this.

  • @tomski1111
    @tomski1111 Před 2 lety

    This video should be required viewing for anyone on social media.

  • @AFuller2020
    @AFuller2020 Před 4 lety +6

    Wait until you need to hire one of these folks, they think "if I don't know it, must not be that important", they are also more concerned about work-life balance that job performance.

  • @russtaylor2122
    @russtaylor2122 Před 2 lety +2

    Running a very close race: 'The biggest failure of man is his inabilty to understand the Exponential Function...' Albert Bartlett.

  • @TrustinJC
    @TrustinJC Před 2 lety +1

    Well said. Great explanation. Describes the world today perfectly/

  • @myalteregohamish
    @myalteregohamish Před 2 lety

    This is great. It's the blind spot conversation.

  • @emreatay6096
    @emreatay6096 Před 2 lety +17

    The dunning-kruger effect is not about intelligence or stupidity, it's about competence in a specific field, and how the same lack of knowledge that hinders good performance also hinders one's ability to evaluate one's performance, or metacognition. The irony of this video is that it talks about stupidity, the arrogance of the "stupid", and their inability to understand or learn that they were wrong, while basing these conclusions off of the dunning-kruger effect, even though it is not about any of this, as has been emphasised by the researchers themselves. Additionally, the first graph shown in this video has nothing to do with the dunning-kruger effect. Seems like the people who made this video are very sure of things they don't know much about, which is exactly the thing that their inaccurate misinterpretation of the dunning-kruger effect describes.

    • @steveswangler6373
      @steveswangler6373 Před 2 lety +1

      thank you for the precise example of dunning kruger lol

    • @marceames4670
      @marceames4670 Před 2 lety +4

      It's a genius meta example. Made better by all the commenters scrambling for the intellectual high ground, whinging about 'stupid' people, spurred by the confidence they gained from a 5min video...

    • @thomasmaughan4798
      @thomasmaughan4798 Před 2 lety +2

      "Seems like the people who made this video are very sure of things they don't know much about"
      Brilliant.

  • @matthuck378
    @matthuck378 Před 2 lety +3

    The more you know, the more you realise you don't know.
    I don't know if the Dunning Kruger effect is the worst problem facing the world, though...I think it's willful ignorance. People who refuse to learn...People who think that because of their god, their favorite 'news' channel, or their favorite political leader is right, they don't need to learn things about the world or about others.

  • @doesntlikebirds
    @doesntlikebirds Před 2 lety

    I think another important thing to remember is that just being aware of this doesn’t make you immune to it and knowing the basics of the phenomenon, well, it just puts you right in that danger zone. There’s a lot more to it than the basics.

  • @johnpointon4462
    @johnpointon4462 Před 2 lety +1

    ".. The best lack all conviction, while the worst are filled with passionate intensity. ..."
    The Second Coming, W.B Yeates. 1919

  • @FernandoChaves
    @FernandoChaves Před 2 lety +3

    The greatest precipitator of the D-K effect in history is COVID-19. LOL!

  • @TheLookingGlassAU
    @TheLookingGlassAU Před 2 lety +3

    Its intetesting how this is used to suggest only accepted experts can know or have anything valuable to say about whats going on.
    Its such a misused idea, applied outside of its proper context. I tried to explain this to the creator but they would not listen, the more i explained it to them the more they were sure they were right.

  • @jimschleich8753
    @jimschleich8753 Před 2 lety

    Well done!! I think this needs to be in the high school curriculum around 10th or 11th grade. It could help!! And then again every year post H.S. education.

  • @markgigiel2722
    @markgigiel2722 Před 2 lety +2

    I try to be aware of the possible Dunning-Kruger effect on me, but I'm always right. So, no problem.

  • @MisterTutor2010
    @MisterTutor2010 Před 2 lety +4

    Isn't the Dunning Kruger Effect that thing where if you die in a dream you're dead for real?
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    Oh nevermind, that's the Freddy Krueger Effect :)

    • @twodogs3868
      @twodogs3868 Před 2 lety

      well done! I'll give you an "A" for that.

  • @davidarter9670
    @davidarter9670 Před 3 lety +3

    Described most “climate change” “scientists” perfectly!

  • @fowchiiiliedpuppiesdied

    I never found this to be an issue, but from a young age, I could see what a problem it was for others. It’s not that bad, people, to admit you didn’t know something, or that you were wrong. It’s a temporary state. So what if you were wrong? Admit it, learn from it, and move in. Don’t let the fear of being mocked, allow you to live in fear.

  • @josephmeador1529
    @josephmeador1529 Před 2 lety +1

    Lao Tzu said figured it out 5000 years ago "He who knows, does not speak. He who speaks, does not know."

  • @vinayaktiwari4383
    @vinayaktiwari4383 Před 3 lety +6

    Similarly ....the subject line of this video ...."the greatest problem of the world" you have assumed this problem is greatest problem....which is an classic example of dunning Kruger

    • @andy8073
      @andy8073 Před 2 lety +1

      My takeaway from what she said is that the Dunning- Kruger effect is an underlying pattern beneath the surface to global threats

    • @sueburt1757
      @sueburt1757 Před 2 lety +1

      Misinformation preys upon this type of person. If someone like this believes that climate change doesn’t exist because they were told so by someone they trust on Facebook instead of doing their own (thorough) research then it makes it harder for the world to deal with climate change, etc. I think that is the basis of the title’s claim.

  • @dhutch71
    @dhutch71 Před 2 lety +3

    The POTUS from 2017-2021 was a shining example of the Dunning-Kruger Effect.

    • @ahdoeknogh
      @ahdoeknogh Před 2 lety

      Not to mention 80 million who put the current brain-dead train wreck into office. It's like a 4 year "Weekend at Bernie's." God help us all.

  • @jasoneves140
    @jasoneves140 Před 2 lety

    Yes I have noticed this in online discussions, And since im never wrong I pointed it out immediately.

  • @thejils1669
    @thejils1669 Před 2 lety

    "....and the truth shall set you free..."
    " ...but first, it'll piss you off!"
    -The Jils

  • @sushibar777
    @sushibar777 Před 2 lety +5

    Donald J. Trump is the acme of this. He thinks he is a stable genius, but gave a speech on July 4, 2017, about how the American forces in the Revolutionary War had seized airports from the British. This over 100 years before the Wright Brothers' first powered flight. He said he'd make a great general, if only he hadn't got those bone spurs. He thinks he is able to pick up on the intricacies of virology and microbiology, and that people who have spent decades in the field are impressed by his knowledge. Then he goes a recommends doctors investigate injecting people with household cleansers, and shining light inside them to kill the Covid-19 virus.

  • @HeyImAK
    @HeyImAK Před 2 lety +3

    Ironically, this is not the Dunning Kruger effect at all, yet you are speaking with confidence about it. READ THE ACTUAL ACADEMIC PAPER!!

  • @PeterJVogel
    @PeterJVogel Před 2 lety

    Brilliant.

  • @flaxenRdn
    @flaxenRdn Před 4 lety

    Thank you for the info... and it's app tiring living amongst this people...huhu