Mini-LED is the new normal - Cooler Master Tempest GP27U

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  • čas přidán 3. 05. 2024
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    0:00 This is exciting!
    0:39 Unboxing and design thoughts
    2:22 Impressive IO
    3:07 Testing the stand
    3:46 Sponsor - Jackery
    4:05 What else was included?
    4:30 There's a problem with our refresh rate...
    5:20 This screen is BRIGHT!
    5:51 HDR test results and playing Cyberpunk 2077
    7:02 Going through the OSD and playing Spider-Man
    9:00 UFO Test
    9:36 Watching HDR videos
    10:02 Alternatives and overall thoughts
    11:40 Outro
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Komentáře • 958

  • @justinmilam545
    @justinmilam545 Před rokem +729

    "I feel like I could safely ship this around the world." FedEx: Hold my beer.

    • @s.h.5726
      @s.h.5726 Před rokem +27

      For real. In the last 2 years at my work fedex has broken around $16,000 USD worth of products. Probably more.

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck Před rokem +8

      @@s.h.5726 tom hanks fault

    • @frostydog2028
      @frostydog2028 Před rokem +7

      Still not as bad as USPS. I only use them if I don’t care what happens to my package because there seems to be a 1-2% chance I’ll either get it in one piece or at ALL.

    • @GGray.
      @GGray. Před rokem +1

      @@girlsdrinkfeck ik this is a joke but can you explain it?

    • @girlsdrinkfeck
      @girlsdrinkfeck Před rokem +1

      @@GGray. castaway

  • @vinceendres
    @vinceendres Před rokem +438

    Love seeing the LTT Labs testing notes! I'm super excited to see the Labs content and the integration into other LLT channels.

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před rokem +1

      This monitor is so thiccc, and ugly. Stuck at 4k 160hz too, Samsung already made 4k 240hz.

    • @EvanCopp
      @EvanCopp Před rokem +2

      "hella funky though" 😂😂

    • @jeus_saaa
      @jeus_saaa Před rokem +7

      @@fynkozari9271 unless you have a top of the line gpu, 4k 240hz is kinda useless

    • @yamickles595
      @yamickles595 Před rokem

      @@fynkozari9271 except that 4k 240hz monitor is 30-40% more expensive

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před rokem

      @@yamickles595 and if coolermaster push 240hz it would be cheaper for us sooner. Like lg also made 160hz 4k this year. It's pretty much the same as their 4k 144hz that was released in July 2020? Also ips?

  • @Lead_Foot
    @Lead_Foot Před rokem +300

    The price was dropped to $800 before they started shipping out orders.

    • @cordia96
      @cordia96 Před rokem +41

      The 1440p version sounds like the better deal

    • @H3LLGHA5T
      @H3LLGHA5T Před rokem +39

      @@cordia96 4k is kinda overkill at 27'. I'd go for 32' and 4k.

    • @erzascralet48
      @erzascralet48 Před rokem +24

      I noticed this too. Before Black Friday, maybe 2 weeks before, it was $799.99 and labeled regular price. Then was $1,017 and third party, now it's $999 and Amazon. Seems like they didn't know how well it would sell, realized they could price it up and did. Don't like that move, but its too small for my needs so I wouldnt buy this anyways. Release this in 32" at $999 and I'm in.

    • @VaydaladaVodalada
      @VaydaladaVodalada Před rokem +27

      @@H3LLGHA5T no it’s not. Just because you don’t know any better doesn’t mean you have to lie. 4K is great at 27 inches.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Před rokem +38

      @@VaydaladaVodalada It was a preference, not a lie. One I happen to agree with. But if you like 4k at 27" more power to you.

  • @Neekzu
    @Neekzu Před rokem +311

    Every other monitor over $999 with less specs is absolutely unjustified now. Monitor makers kept scamming high end buyers and now cooler master came around the corner lol
    Yet I am still waiting for my 35", 21:9, 5120x2160, 144hz+, OLED with built in Thunderbolt 4 HUB dream

    • @thunderarch5951
      @thunderarch5951 Před rokem +52

      35 inches is such an odd number when there's already 34in at that resolution lol

    • @v4714v
      @v4714v Před rokem +97

      @CGG_GSS This is just intentionally daft. If you have a high end GPU and game with it, you need a high end monitor to be able to see it. Unless you have new production tech that can produce 4k 60fps minimum monitors that no one else has? Really don't see your meaning here

    • @v4714v
      @v4714v Před rokem +52

      @CGG_GSS No butts are hurt - just a conversation. Though I'm not sure what value there is in this, since you make a claim but aren't gonna provide reasons why you hold those opinions. Of course, opinions are worthless unless you back them up. Do you have a solution to rising monitor prices or not? Do you have a TV recommendation that can game well (low response time, no jello effect, 144hz+, 1440p+, good color)? Maybe one with good reviews from Rtings or other reputable CZcams channels?

    • @lilkidsuave
      @lilkidsuave Před rokem +10

      I feel like if you're spending over 1000 on a monitor, your better off with the qoled from dell

    • @Neekzu
      @Neekzu Před rokem +1

      @@lilkidsuave Its only 1440p and has color fringing

  • @LouisHochmanTheJourno
    @LouisHochmanTheJourno Před rokem +64

    The refresh rate thing was a known issue in the first firmware. You could only do up to 144hz with adaptive sync enabled. In the new firmware, it works up to 160hz.

    • @ianvisser7899
      @ianvisser7899 Před rokem +3

      Irrelevant, seeing as the 3090 is DP 1.4a, which anyway can only do 4k 144hz

    • @mugabugaYT
      @mugabugaYT Před rokem +3

      @@ianvisser7899 HDMI 2.1 can do much higher bandwidth than DP 1.4a so that isn't an issue, plus the monitor doesn't support DP 2.0 anyways so the 3090 having DP 2.0 would make no difference

    • @ployth9000
      @ployth9000 Před rokem

      still can't run 160hz at 1440p or 1080p only in 4k mode source I have the monitor and using it with the new firmware

    • @MeowHoots
      @MeowHoots Před rokem

      @@ployth9000 that seems ass backwards why would 160hz only be for 4k

    • @ployth9000
      @ployth9000 Před rokem

      @@MeowHoots I am as surprised as you hope they have a fix for it or this is going back

  • @2etheth
    @2etheth Před rokem +194

    Spent about a year with my Samsung Odyssey G9 49'' monitor before figuring out how to change it to 10 bit color instead of default 8 bit. feels like an entire new monitor lol....

    • @exsnozer
      @exsnozer Před rokem +20

      Just bought my AW3223DW for 746 USD or 933 incl tax. 10 bit 144hz instead of 8 bit 175hz which is the limit for the DP connection. Looks so great.

    • @erelpc
      @erelpc Před rokem +6

      Why's it not set to 10 bit by default?

    • @leonro
      @leonro Před rokem +11

      @@erelpc I assume for compatibility? If someone's device doesn't output 10 bit at least it will still work out of the box.

    • @2etheth
      @2etheth Před rokem

      @@erelpc beats me lol that’s a question for Samsung’s bean counters

    • @ktfjulien
      @ktfjulien Před rokem +3

      @@exsnozer Where are you paying that much tax ???

  • @iwantmypot
    @iwantmypot Před rokem +41

    3:17 Portrait is great when you want to fullscreen a vertical video.... or have a tall Excel document.
    I have a dual-screen setup with one monitor in each orientation. Great for workflow when looking at data on one screen, and inputting it on the other. Also convenient when I come scross a vertical video because I can just move the window to the other screen to full-screen it.

    • @PluralPaul
      @PluralPaul Před rokem +9

      I think the question was more about having this specific monitor in vertical because it is a good use case for cheaper monitors

    • @iwantmypot
      @iwantmypot Před rokem +3

      @@PluralPaul Most people want one good monitor, rather than one good and one cheap. So being able to pivot is useful for those people. (although it's incredibly annoying to go into display settings to change the screen orientation. I don't know if Windows ever re-enabled the old screen-rotation hotkeys.)

    • @leonro
      @leonro Před rokem +1

      @@PluralPaul It'll still be great if you ever get a monitor upgrade because you'll keep the nice one as a secondary monitor, or if you don't have the space for two this does double duty as a vertical and a horizontal monitor. I wish monitors would have sensors to detect their orientation, like tablets and phones do, so we could do this on the fly without fiddling with windows settings.

    • @thischannelisforcommenting5680
      @thischannelisforcommenting5680 Před rokem

      Sound Voltex

    • @bacon.cheesecake
      @bacon.cheesecake Před rokem +2

      @@iwantmypot A lot of people would much rather have one good one and one cheap one, I can't stand having a single monitor, the things people use vertical ones for typically don't benefit much from better image quality anyway.

  • @Arkenas99
    @Arkenas99 Před rokem +8

    Its crazy how the monitor market has changed over the last few years. As i bought my CX48 over a year ago, the only miniLED option was an Asus model, which had a price over 3k. Now you can get even better products for way less money.

  • @rguitar78
    @rguitar78 Před rokem +12

    I am in search of ultra premium 27 inch 4k, so I am happy to see this brought to market. Now let the games begin and lets see what ces has for us.

  • @artins90
    @artins90 Před rokem +15

    I hope that in a few years Mini-LED will drop in price to where normal LED monitors are right now.
    I really don't like the idea of using an OLED screen for PC and Mini-LED seems to be the only solution.
    I guess I will hold onto my cheapo 4K LED monitor until then.

  • @vincelongman3264
    @vincelongman3264 Před rokem +4

    Cooler Master monitors are killing it at the moment. I can't wait for their GP27Q, which essentially a cheaper version of this with QHD instead 4K

  • @JeremieBPCreation
    @JeremieBPCreation Před rokem +1

    Yéééééé, thank you for the price!!!! I love how responsive LMG generally is to comments.
    So many of my comments were actually put into practice I'm almost starting to feel personally invested in those channels. Hahaha

  • @Arcticstar0
    @Arcticstar0 Před rokem +11

    Every time Plouffe mentions that “you’ll never see the back of a monitor”, I look at my setup where the back of the desk faces the room. Helped with not having people appear in the webcam. Also greatly reduced my anxiety about being watched since I now face the room. I would get jump scared by people walking behind me while I was focused. It’s now a little nook in the larger room.

    • @csl750
      @csl750 Před rokem +1

      uhm yip... imaging mid gunfight someone leaning over your shoulder... i shit myself...

    • @reallybigjohnson
      @reallybigjohnson Před rokem

      Also, you don't have to worry about someone seeing you on Pornhub.

  • @OllAxe
    @OllAxe Před rokem +90

    5:28 My monitor limits the refresh rate when using 10 bit color due to limited bandwidth over DisplayPort. The same might be the case for this monitor.

    • @erelpc
      @erelpc Před rokem +17

      Think they were using hdmi 2.1 rather than the displayport 1.4 in this test. It's a bug when VRR is on which Coolermaster are supposed to bring out a firmware for.
      Of course displayport 2.1 is better but we will have to wait until next year for those monitors.

    • @AmmarAbotouk
      @AmmarAbotouk Před rokem

      @@erelpc new firmware released yesterday BTW

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays Před rokem

      @@AmmarAbotouk Props to Corsair for getting on that. I assume you can update the firmware yourself (unlike that Alienware monitor they talked about recently)?

    • @AmmarAbotouk
      @AmmarAbotouk Před rokem +1

      @@tiestofalljays yup you can through the USB on the monitor

    • @tiestofalljays
      @tiestofalljays Před rokem

      @@AmmarAbotouk nice nice

  • @AmanArdalan
    @AmanArdalan Před rokem

    I'm only a minute in to the vid but have to comment and commend the cinematography here. Well done by the camera crew! But also the behind the scenes folks who clearly know how to color coordinate.
    That is all.

  • @alexossan2829
    @alexossan2829 Před rokem +44

    This monitor really surprised me. The InZone M9 had me thinking we were going to be stuck at low zone counts for a couple of years. Hope we start seeing some 32" 4K Mini LEDs with high zone counts at under $1000 next year.

    • @petmach
      @petmach Před rokem +4

      Samsung odyssey neo g7 32 - a 32 inch, 4K mini led monitor with 1196 dimming zones, thats going for 999 euro in the black friday deal. Exactly what u want if you dont mind its curved

    • @alexossan2829
      @alexossan2829 Před rokem +5

      @@petmach Ah yeah it's the curve I didn't like. After using a flat 32" 1440p and a 1800R 35" 3440x1440 for a couple of years, I think I prefer a flat panel at this size.

    • @DanKaschel
      @DanKaschel Před rokem

      @@petmach when I say 4k I mean 2160p. The g7 is 1440p which isn't what I'm looking for.

    • @Jossages
      @Jossages Před rokem +1

      @@DanKaschel The NEO G7 is 4K

    • @MsSgent
      @MsSgent Před rokem +4

      ​@@Jossages The Neo G7 is 4k but it is not much use outside of gaming due to the fact it is VA, curved, and to large at 32" for many desks that want to use multiple monitors. VA is generally inferior to IPS for text display as well.

  • @danielsmith2295
    @danielsmith2295 Před rokem +79

    "For some reason we're limited to 144hz" - me watching on a 60hz monitor

    • @kendokaaa
      @kendokaaa Před rokem +4

      It's not like there aren't really cheap 1080p 144hz monitors on the market

    • @fynkozari9271
      @fynkozari9271 Před rokem +1

      Why though? Im sure 144hz monitors now are cheaper than when u bought that 60hz.

    • @olsirmonkey
      @olsirmonkey Před rokem

      Plus CZcams maxes out at 60

    • @AKuld
      @AKuld Před rokem +2

      @@kendokaaa I use a 720p 60hz TV :)

    • @diamondarrow4567
      @diamondarrow4567 Před rokem

      @@olsirmonkey I think very few channels actually get access to higher

  • @profosist
    @profosist Před rokem +32

    DP 1.4 is limited to 4K 144hz 10bit HDR and that's with DSC so that's why you can't hit the 160hz maybe the 160hz is over HDMI if it has 2.1 otherwise it could be at lower resolutions or native panel refresh.

    • @Zicrixdoesart
      @Zicrixdoesart Před rokem

      Evidently not as the neo g8 is 4k 240hz with DSC

    • @profosist
      @profosist Před rokem

      @@Zicrixdoesart I guess it does through DSC? I have yet to see another monitor with those specs though. I have also not personally used it so I can't confirm you can do all so of the features on at once. 240hz 10bit HDR VRR etc. I did see a review mention it's at 120hz out of the box. In the past it wasn't uncommon for 4K TV's to say 120hz but only be able to do that at 1080p, monitors have done the same. A Gigabyte 27in 1440p 144hz comes to mind where you needed to drop to 120hz if you wanted to use the 10bit HDR.
      Edit: it can accept 4K 240hz 10bit but the 240hz mode is weird and has artifacts similar to previous panels in the line. I guess DSC goes higher than I thought.

    • @AeroDr
      @AeroDr Před rokem +1

      It does 160Hz with VRR and HDR just fine with the new firmware. DP1.4a with DSC supports 4k240 at full RGB at 10-bit.

  • @eprom42
    @eprom42 Před rokem +1

    I think it's nice to have pivot just so you can adjust a few degrees to either side, even if you never go portrait mode.

  • @SumWelshLadInLondon
    @SumWelshLadInLondon Před rokem

    0:43 "its hard to pull out"
    im with you on that one buddy

  • @SudoYETI
    @SudoYETI Před rokem +8

    I'm sticking with 1080p until even budget cards can run 4K games at over 60FPS, so probably 4 or so years. I have a 1440p but I mostly play esports titles where FPS is king and for my immersion games like Cyberpunk, once you get into the game you barely notice the graphics (for me anyway).

  • @antilogic81
    @antilogic81 Před rokem +17

    Portrait is important if you code. Sometimes it is just much more helpful when you don't have to scroll up and down to see two or more lines of code at once.
    Generally a portrait monitor is off to the side of the main monitor where desk real-estate (at either work or home) is sometimes limited.

    • @MikeBehrensWX
      @MikeBehrensWX Před rokem +7

      I was thinking he meant more like you shouldn't spend 1000 bucks for your portrait coding monitor haha.

    • @profosist
      @profosist Před rokem

      @@MikeBehrensWX but what if your a website designer?

    • @MikeBehrensWX
      @MikeBehrensWX Před rokem

      @@profosist still doesn't matter.

    • @MPDR
      @MPDR Před rokem +1

      @@profosist Modern browsers have the ability to simulate any screen size/form factor you want through the developer tools, so you don't need such an expensive monitor.

    • @profosist
      @profosist Před rokem

      @@MPDR no my point was not for resolution it was the fact that you're toting but you're also potentially doing design work

  • @Kytetiger
    @Kytetiger Před rokem

    I like the diagonale transition that you guys used in some videos lately

  • @bismuth7730
    @bismuth7730 Před rokem +2

    Im only at the start of the video after seeing the specs and it looks amazing, unfortunately if im buying a monitor ill be looking at 240Hz. Im excited for the next year in monitor space. GPUs are here also that could drive 1440p and 240HZ as well at decent settings. Excited!

  • @a_saker
    @a_saker Před rokem +33

    FYI: There are many issues a actually using the FALD in practice. Hardware Unboxed did a very detailed overview of these CoolerMaster MiniLED displays and their firmware issues

    • @Lead_Foot
      @Lead_Foot Před rokem +6

      It just got a firmware update 2 days ago

    • @kendokaaa
      @kendokaaa Před rokem +4

      Are you expecting this channel to do *any* research on a product?

    • @a_saker
      @a_saker Před rokem +2

      @@Lead_Foot iirc, this was to allow you to run FALD with HDR + VRR. But there is still a lot of work to do getting SDR + FALD running (ignore adding VRR with it). Great monitor and CoolerMaster seems proactive with community engagement and adamant to fix it, just want to make sure everyone is aware if they pull the trigger on buying one.

  • @shamgarsan
    @shamgarsan Před rokem +38

    As said pixel density snob, I’ve been looking forward to displays that could beat an Asus PG27UQ. I’m glad to see that starting to happen. 28” is about as big as 4K can get if you want the “retina” effect, which is not something I would give up ever since I owned a 2012 MacBook Pro.

    • @smo7089
      @smo7089 Před rokem +6

      viewing distance my man

    • @shamgarsan
      @shamgarsan Před rokem +17

      @@smo7089I’m aware that viewing distance matters. And my experience is that 4K at desktop viewing distances should be ~27-28” for a pleasing sharpness of text and images.

    • @danieltroger1761
      @danieltroger1761 Před rokem

      +1

    • @Galf506
      @Galf506 Před rokem +2

      Stop sitting at 30cm from your screen.

    • @Rokomarn
      @Rokomarn Před rokem +2

      I bet you listen to vinyl records too because it gives the music more "warmth" lol

  • @Friedbrain11
    @Friedbrain11 Před rokem

    I would find it just fine and especially for my rig in my little part of the world. I am on a 27" 165 hz 1440p monitor but I want more and this one looks perfect.

  • @leandrodrace
    @leandrodrace Před rokem

    Great video. I cant wait to see you guys opinion on the new LG 27 @240HZ OLED.

  • @startedtech
    @startedtech Před rokem +10

    Speaking of $1000 monitors, LG's going to release a 27" 1440p 240hz OLED monitor.

    • @wasdawasda3849
      @wasdawasda3849 Před rokem +2

      4k 144hz would have had me so much more interested

    • @stephenmusic69420
      @stephenmusic69420 Před rokem

      source? cause if i’m gonna spend $1k on a monitor i’m very interested in that

    • @CodeVenomSnakes
      @CodeVenomSnakes Před rokem

      I think that so good of monitor.

    • @startedtech
      @startedtech Před rokem +1

      @@stephenmusic69420 model 27GR95QE-B. It's on LG's website and there's news articles about it.

    • @MauroTamm
      @MauroTamm Před rokem +1

      Unfortunately not qdoled so it's going to have burn-in.

  • @TheNightquaker
    @TheNightquaker Před rokem +4

    3:17 portrait mode on a monitor is great for things involving lots of text, like writing or programming. You can just fit more stuff on the monitor that way.

  • @ShawnStrickland
    @ShawnStrickland Před rokem +2

    0:44 it’s always hard to pull out man 😂

  • @TheGreektrojan
    @TheGreektrojan Před rokem +2

    I just bought an IPS monitor for the price/performance but in 2 or so years, the monitor market is going to be fantastic with mini LED/OLED/similar options.

  • @waveformdistortion
    @waveformdistortion Před rokem +4

    I just wish we could have some cool high-end monitor options in smaller sizes too. ~23-24 inches is the perfect size for my setup, 27 does not work so well. There's a few high refresh IPS options available, but they all cap out at 1920x1080.

    • @Gershy13
      @Gershy13 Před rokem +2

      100% agree

    • @LucidStrike
      @LucidStrike Před rokem

      I'd stick with 1080p 24" if any of the displays were good at HDR, but alas.

    • @waveformdistortion
      @waveformdistortion Před rokem

      @@LucidStrike Yeah mine is only HDR400, otherwise known as HDaren't. I don't even bother enabling it most of the time.

  • @Onihikage
    @Onihikage Před rokem +19

    I refuse to call this normal until it shows up in monitors under $250

    • @LucidStrike
      @LucidStrike Před rokem +1

      That's fair, yeah.

    • @armen1136
      @armen1136 Před rokem +1

      I do agree the price is ridiculous, But I can't deny that it's the best visuals I've seen on any monitor so far. Nothing compares to OLED, but this is the next best thing. Realistically this should be priced around $400 to $500 at most, But the monitor market has always be more expensive than tv's. It's kind of sad honestly.

    • @dariomladenovski7047
      @dariomladenovski7047 Před rokem +1

      ​@@armen1136 what? you do realize that there's edge lit monitors that are more expensive than this FALD monitor? for this price nothing can beat it

    • @armen1136
      @armen1136 Před rokem

      @@dariomladenovski7047 I know. I just wish prices weren’t close to a $1000 for a 27 inch display. I still think it’s worth the price compared to any edge lit display.

    • @aleksandrtrohhatsov3383
      @aleksandrtrohhatsov3383 Před 8 měsíci

      I bought the OEM version of the 1440p monitor (KTC 27MP20) for 500 euro and , while I do understand people not wanting to spend a ton on a MONITOR, this display is 100% worth every penny. Even in SDR it just slays.

  • @alleycat5472
    @alleycat5472 Před rokem +1

    I like it. Oh maybe a future thing to cover. How to properly clean the screens, I never seem to get it right.

  • @Tangorey
    @Tangorey Před rokem +2

    When I think “short circuit” I immediately think of Plouffe. Favorite host on the channel 👌

  • @davidbelecci6970
    @davidbelecci6970 Před rokem +6

    Finally an opinion on this monitor from someone Who owns a display!

  • @dominic1988
    @dominic1988 Před rokem +3

    looking forward to see a 32 inch version in the future

  • @andycapybara
    @andycapybara Před rokem

    Congrats on 2m subs!

  • @michaelthompson9798
    @michaelthompson9798 Před rokem +1

    I personally have had this monitor for about 2months now and 🥰loving it! Right now this is my end game monitor until the RTX6090 and so fourth etc come out in the future and a 240/360hz 4K model comes out. I’m set now for at least the next few years 🥰💪👍😇. Imo cooler master nailed this monitor on their first foray into the monitor market and undercut competitors on price and delivered on monitor panel, quality and features…. Imo anyways 💪😇🥰

  • @ebridgewater
    @ebridgewater Před rokem +5

    I'll stick to my £700 42" LG C2 OLED.

  • @CasepbX
    @CasepbX Před rokem +340

    I just find it insane to spend $1000 on a little bitty 27" screen.

    • @gamebuster800
      @gamebuster800 Před rokem +55

      Seriously? What size would you prefer?
      I can live with 32” 16:9 but not any larger. It’s not a budget thing, I paid nearly 2000$ for my 27” display

    • @cvayta
      @cvayta Před rokem +3

      I have the Alienware 38 widescreen now, and it could be slightly higher when I also work on it.

    • @onyx_0
      @onyx_0 Před rokem +56

      much rather get a higher spec display that's smaller than get a larger worse display

    • @existentialselkath1264
      @existentialselkath1264 Před rokem +7

      For some people (me included) as long as its the same resolution and you can still just about see the pixels, it doesn't matter how big or small it is. It's still the same amount of detail

    • @ultramegax
      @ultramegax Před rokem +23

      Price = size? I don't follow the logic.

  • @ShawnLoftinplus
    @ShawnLoftinplus Před rokem +2

    Portrait is great if you have a second monitor for chat apps, code, terminal, and lots of other uses.

  • @jezza7w
    @jezza7w Před rokem

    That muti-coloured-block hoodie he and Linus have been wearing is really nice! Its not on LTT store but I want to buy it the moment it is!

  • @Neoxon619
    @Neoxon619 Před rokem +6

    If anything, I wonder why the Sony InZone wasn’t MiniLED. Is the tech really that expensive?

    • @emilyshabang
      @emilyshabang Před rokem +2

      The InZone seems highly overrated but maybe that's just me. I couldn't handle that ugly and weird stand

    • @kendokaaa
      @kendokaaa Před rokem

      It's not not expensive. You're replacing a few LEDs on the edge of a display with a whole bunch of mini LEDs and the circuitry to control however many zones independently while analyzing the input to know how bright to make each zone. In the case of OLED, the circuitry is much simpler but the OLED film is expensive to manufacture for larger scales because of yields.

  • @BrilliantBenGaming
    @BrilliantBenGaming Před rokem +3

    that stand is almost a deal breaker because it limits space where I keep my keyboard - short desk problems I guess not to mention I can't properly mount an arm - seems like an excellent monitor though

  • @CreatorOfWorlds
    @CreatorOfWorlds Před rokem

    In the past i shunned build in speakers. But lately i have come to rely on them for my low volume late night gaming. So i need those build in.

  • @Breigner01
    @Breigner01 Před rokem +1

    Honestly I've got a pretty good main monitor but I guess in 2 years when I will want to upgrade I might consider the 1440p version.
    Since I do some photography HDR would be a big plus.

  • @zaqueattaq
    @zaqueattaq Před rokem +4

    i'd just like to see a monitor on here that's sub $400, the past few videos every monitor has been above $500 and reaching anywhere near $1000

    • @kubotite9168
      @kubotite9168 Před rokem

      the advertiser sent them the product so they just review whatever product they get..

    • @randommcranderson5155
      @randommcranderson5155 Před rokem

      @@kubotite9168 I don't begrudge them reviewing premium products. I begrudge them calling a $1000 27" monitor with major firmware bugs "the new normal". It's not and never will be.

  • @ricter
    @ricter Před rokem +8

    hey i have this monitor. you're probably limited at 144 because you have VRR on, if you turn it off you should get 160hz. There is a firmware update coming out from CM to fix that plus some other issues with VRR and HDR.
    Also you said this is 1k USD.. it's actually $800 MSRP but not in stock everywhere right now at that price, I would wait to get it cheaper if looking to buy this as that's what I paid for it

    • @Lead_Foot
      @Lead_Foot Před rokem +1

      A firmware update was released 2 days ago

    • @emilyshabang
      @emilyshabang Před rokem +2

      At 800 that's a very attractive monitor. I wish it was 32" bc 27 seems a tad small to really distinguish 1440 from 4k. Yet I always question why companies make a 32" 1440p, as that seems too big for the pixel density

    • @MegaKrustyman
      @MegaKrustyman Před rokem

      So what's the actual highest refresh rate after the firmware update? The box said 160Hz at 5:17 but their promotional material at 8:00 said 165Hz

    • @ricter
      @ricter Před rokem +1

      @@emilyshabang I upgraded to this from a 1440 27".. for me the pixel density is definitely noticeable, i sit about 2.5 feet away from it. I don't think I can go back to a 1440p for my main monitor now the 4k looks too good. And I agree, would never consider 1440 32", idk who buys those

    • @ricter
      @ricter Před rokem +1

      @@MegaKrustyman if you read it closely that promo material is actually talking about the GP27Q which is the 1440p version of this monitor (GP27U). Another mistake in this video I guess. The GP27Q is 165hz, GP27U is 160

  • @johnbuscher
    @johnbuscher Před rokem

    I’ll hold onto my Omen X for some years to come, but it is nice to see mini-LED coming out in smaller sizes.

  • @SteelFlexInc
    @SteelFlexInc Před rokem

    Coolest looking monitor box I’ve seen in a while. And a matching hoodie too…

  • @abyzma201
    @abyzma201 Před rokem +6

    I don't really understand the hype around brighter and brighter indoor displays. I have sensitive eyes and i really don't want my monitor to go so bright. With phones i can understand it since there's scenarios where i want the display to be bright because the surroundings are bright. I don't really own any HDR displays and definitely not any that go so bright but it just seems odd to me. The display i currently use has a peak brightness of 370 nits and i have it permanently set to 30% because i don't want it to scorch my eyes, i'd love for someone to fill me in.

    • @AKT0B0S
      @AKT0B0S Před rokem +2

      I agree with you

    • @eniff2925
      @eniff2925 Před rokem +1

      I have a 400 nits display and usually it is at 20%, at night sometimes I put it to 0%.

    • @kmb957
      @kmb957 Před rokem +1

      I agree. I turn brightness down on all my displays. This is why I would prefer OLED when the price comes down.

    • @pshurygin
      @pshurygin Před rokem +3

      The point is not to have the entire screen at 1000+ nits, but a small portion of it. Eg a burning candle in the dark scene could be very bright, while only accounting for ~1% of the screen area. This won't burn your eyes, but would actually mimic the real candle very closely.
      As for the full screen 1000+ nits brightness, that's really pointless most of the time, unless your monitor is standing in the yard right under the straight sun light. It can also be somewhat useful when displaying a flash of bright light for a short amount of time, eg to show the effect of flash grenade in an FPS.

    • @kajurn791
      @kajurn791 Před rokem +2

      Marketing. They want to sell you expensive LCDs any way they can while they can before OLEDs become mainstream and these become an entry level outdated product. LCDs have only two things going for it vs OLED, brightness and less chance of burn in, and that's what they peddle to you.

  • @Juliett-A
    @Juliett-A Před rokem +4

    So why is $1000 a lot for a GPU but not for a monitor?

    • @HYDRAdude
      @HYDRAdude Před rokem

      A monitor will last you way longer than a GPU will. Even when the monitor is no longer your "main" display you can still get tons of utility out of it as a second display. Meanwhile the old GPU is only good as a temporary back up at best.

    • @user-Cata7sti7ma7
      @user-Cata7sti7ma7 Před rokem

      a GPU you change it every 3-4 generation in general, While Monitor you generaly only change it every 6 to 10 years.
      These not much evolution in monitor/TV panel.

  • @itsdeonlol
    @itsdeonlol Před rokem +2

    I really like the stand from Cooler Master!

  • @Wistbacka
    @Wistbacka Před rokem

    Ooooh nice!
    LG, however, just announced their upcoming 27" 1440p 240hz OLED gaming monitor. Really looking forward to that one.

  • @HumblyNeil
    @HumblyNeil Před rokem +12

    Hey guys,
    I as much as the next person, I enjoy watching these reviews of cutting-edge products. Still, I would feel way more interested and informed in watching videos that are in a average consumer price range that isn't always motivating people to repeatedly spend to strive for the next greatest thing and to resent spending exorbitant amounts of money on today's tech. As all know the next video review will be 3 notches higher than this. Either make an acknowledgement of the price and who it is for (and what you could save buying something more affordable), OR don't mention the price at all.
    You'd get more viewer inclusivity if:
    A 300-500 dollar price range monitor set of reviews would be far more interesting and get greater engagement from most, and I assume link click-throughs. As far as I can recall since following this channel, all the products are aimed at folk who are in a salary bracket that is unattainable to most, especially in this difficult economic climate, short of financially ruining people, you may as well review space station cooking components with a price tag next to it and affiliate links or deep sea diving camera gear; neither fit the wider audience as much as these over-spec exorbitantly expensive gaming screens.
    I love the format, hosts, and production value... hate the products.

  • @yackemup
    @yackemup Před rokem +17

    Still waiting for manufacturers to realize 1440p(not ultrawides) needs to be more mainstream and more people are using them so they need to make more. I'm honestly tired of 4k this 4k that.

    • @LzysGraphics
      @LzysGraphics Před rokem +3

      ummmmm... This monitor is available in 1440p, and if you aren't going to spend $800+ on a monitor most of the options you'll find are 1440p...

    • @accelement3499
      @accelement3499 Před rokem +4

      this is the youtuber not the manufacturer all these 4k monitors usually come in a 1440p 1080p option they are just usually skipped over like lg 27gp950 has the 27gp850-1440p 27gp750 1080p also this isnt a great deal at all

    • @AsianLing
      @AsianLing Před rokem +3

      There is a 1440p version of this monitor check out hardware unboxes review on it

    • @yackemup
      @yackemup Před rokem

      @@LzysGraphics ummmmmm....all their 1440p monitors are 165hz(unless i missed one i just looked on their site)...wtf am I going to buy a 1440p monitor that runs as fast as a 4k....the point of a lower refresh rate monitor is for higher refresh rates. 240hz 1440p monitor or gtfoh. If youtubers and companies are showing off 4k 160hz monitors(basically need a top flagship gpu to to run that) like everyone has a flagship gpu to do that then everyone has a gpu to do more than 1440p 160hz....

    • @accelement3499
      @accelement3499 Před rokem +1

      @@AsianLing HUB videos are super long and super boring also im sure he disabled some features or something to make it "FAIR" to the competition like GPU'S and CPU'S worst review channel imo

  • @-eternal
    @-eternal Před rokem +1

    Check out the X16 flow 2 in 1. It also has a mini-led display.

  • @SirDragonClaw
    @SirDragonClaw Před rokem

    3:17 Portrait is great if you do anything with large documents, software engineering or use tall Excel documents or similar frequently. Most people in my group have at least one monitor vertical.

  • @pshurygin
    @pshurygin Před rokem +5

    To be honest even a MacBook Pro 14 display with like 10,000 zones on a 14 inch screen still has very visible blooming. You can easily see those zones switching on and off at the edge of the dark area, and it is very distracting. This is nowhere near as good as any OLED panel, which would actually give you perfect HDR experience. So I would actually just wait for the newly announced LG 27 inch 1440p 240hz OLED monitor, which is to be released soon for the 1000$, if HDR is what you are after. Or go for the Alienware 34inch ultrawide.

    • @denisruskin348
      @denisruskin348 Před rokem

      Yeah but that’s the worst case of say a white box moving inside a pitch black background. For 99% gaming the bloom won’t be a big issue and you can always disable dimming for work and such.
      Plus this give you better brightness than most OLEDs and never worry about burning.

    • @alexatkin
      @alexatkin Před rokem

      I've not once noticed it on my 16" Macbook Pro without actually looking for it.

  • @marcruijs1039
    @marcruijs1039 Před rokem +3

    Plouffe is such a good host

  • @technologicalelite8076
    @technologicalelite8076 Před rokem +1

    Congrats on 2 Million!

  • @circuschris2880
    @circuschris2880 Před 10 měsíci

    Only just found this monitor, it ticks all the boxes I need ticked. Finally going to upgrade from the 3 1080p screens Ive had for the last 7 years.

  • @thunderarch5951
    @thunderarch5951 Před rokem +6

    I'm sorry but 1000$ of monitor is not what I would describe "normal", lol
    I'm a PC player, but I find it hilarious when people go against console players saying PC don't cost that much and then spend 2000$ just for a GPU and a monitor lmao
    I'm good with a 2060 and a 1440p IPS, thank you very much
    With that said, it's a great monitor, but don't call it the new normal, that's something like 1% of the players at best will buy

    • @100100toxic
      @100100toxic Před rokem +1

      True but it's somewhat normal compared to tvs with same specs and TV's are in priced competitively already due to the market

    • @ydid687
      @ydid687 Před rokem +1

      the whole premise of these group of channels is showcasing peculiar & enthusiast grade tech
      on a scale of 7 to 10 how aloof are you

    • @Xfade81
      @Xfade81 Před rokem +1

      It's the new normal for this type of miniled screen. They used to be well over 1500. Noone's talking about a regular ips.

  • @cactus_cuber1589
    @cactus_cuber1589 Před rokem +35

    A average comment

  • @DctrGizmo
    @DctrGizmo Před rokem +1

    I have been looking for a new monitor for graphic design and gaming and this looks pretty good! However, I really don't want to downgrade from two 24" monitors to one 27". Maybe a flat OLED ultra wide is the best option for me.

  • @gianfrancomarelli9686

    Jackery is paying for the entire LTT team holiday season ! They are paying for every video in the LTT group :)

  • @ShihadMan
    @ShihadMan Před rokem +10

    first... Im a loser...

  • @HerbaMachina
    @HerbaMachina Před rokem +1

    3:17 the main reasons you'd go portrait on a monitor are mostly for programming, or for reading long, but not wide spreadsheets.

  • @stuartlunsford7556
    @stuartlunsford7556 Před rokem +1

    It is so hard to pull out when it's that tight, I agree.

  • @ianvisser7899
    @ianvisser7899 Před rokem

    5:00 Okay... Labs guys should know this, but the limitation is the 3090's ports. It only supports up to 4k 144hz, because it's DP 1.4a, which caps out at 4k 144hz.

  • @a4gr
    @a4gr Před rokem

    Can you do an edge lighting test? Draw a circle near the edge on a white screen then see if you can fully see the circle from the other edge of the monitor. Is there a gap between the backlight and LCD? Heaps of monitors have a gap and dark shadow around the edges. If you are using two monitors sometimes this is annoying as scroll bars are sometimes in the dark area. Thanks for the review ❤

  • @tiestofalljays
    @tiestofalljays Před rokem

    Oh man I can’t wait for this tech to keep dropping in price. I’ve still got that 34” 3440x1440 Alienware monitor from ~2017/2018. It’s still great. 120hz IPS.
    I’ll need something that’s a very noticeable step up in order to be tempted to upgrade, so it’ll be exciting to see the options in a couple of years.
    I’m hoping for 240hz/MiniLED/Ultrawide 1440p/ $1000ish. That’s my criteria for an upgrade haha.

  • @mikep9418
    @mikep9418 Před rokem

    I just bought a Samsung QN90B 55" TV for use as a monitor. 120hz 4k HDR Gsync makes for a great gaming experience.

  • @morten1
    @morten1 Před 9 měsíci

    If I connect my computer to it via usb-C, will G-sync still work?
    I highly assume the usb-C port has displayport

  • @lcarsos
    @lcarsos Před rokem +2

    I use 4k 27" for coding. I actually use 4k 24" as wing monitors (Dell made a P2415Q for a little bit, and I refuse to let these suckers die until I have replacements). The amount of code and documentation and build lights I can fit on screen at one time is great. And I also don't have to put up with how chintzy fonts look at 12px on 1080-1440 24-27" monitors, I can comfortably set everything to 16-18px heights and pack in everything on 3 screens. I wish all the bezels were the same, but this may be my next 3x4k setup.

    • @pastuh
      @pastuh Před rokem

      4k 27" text is crisp?
      I want move from 23" 1080p..
      Last purchase LG C2 42" not works as monitor.. insane blur, strange yellows..

  • @FirstMomentsOf
    @FirstMomentsOf Před rokem

    This monitor is a rebrand of the Chinese OEM KTC. KTC has produced the M27T20 and M27P20 Pro, they're the 1440p and 4k equivalents of this exact display. The come in at a more affordable price point with the same specs.

  • @AJ-pr6er
    @AJ-pr6er Před 6 měsíci

    Would you recommend this for Lightroom/Photoshop work. As well as gaming or would you recommend the LGGP950?

  • @Synoyd
    @Synoyd Před rokem

    Would be amazing to see a review on the LG 27GR95QE-B when it comes out

  • @ethanvalentine4299
    @ethanvalentine4299 Před rokem

    cant wait to see a review of the new 27'' oled from LG

  • @trolledyou7032
    @trolledyou7032 Před rokem

    I completely agree. 27" for 4k is absolutely too small, I tried it and it doesn't make any sense. I have a 32" 4k and still would prefer it to be a bit bigger to not use any dpi scaling in Windows. I would love to see 34" or 36" somewhere at the market... There is no monitor in that range unfortunately, and TVs go straight to 40"...

  • @Saukaron
    @Saukaron Před rokem

    Something felt off with the camera, hard to tell what it was, somehow it was a little wibbely wobbely or so. Or is it just me? But that also means that you put the bar very high with LTT main channel videos. Huge shoutout to the camera operators, you are beeing overlooked way to often!

  • @Jeffrey_Wong
    @Jeffrey_Wong Před rokem

    Really thorough overview, truly spoken like a man who owns a display himself

  • @ghomerhust
    @ghomerhust Před rokem +2

    COLOR ADJUST: if you put it in ADOBE mode, im betting that is a pre-calibrated setting to be as color accurate as possible. just a suggestion.

  • @pawnipt
    @pawnipt Před rokem

    Nice full handprint/fingerprints all over the monitor. Done man handled it.

  • @ffsireallydontcare
    @ffsireallydontcare Před rokem +1

    Could LTT please do a demonstration video of these in-monitor KVMs? Traditional KVMs use separate video/keyboard/mouse cables, however this particular monitor appears to carry the keyboard/mouse signal over the single DP/HDMI to each computer. I haven't yet seen this in practice.

  • @ariokhthio190
    @ariokhthio190 Před rokem +1

    i think you should change the hdmi with a premium one to get 160hz, the one you get out of the box usually not the good quality one.

  • @tylermelton2467
    @tylermelton2467 Před 3 měsíci

    Just got the KTC M27P20P for $550 on Amazon, same panel minus the CM logo

  • @Caleth
    @Caleth Před rokem

    Do we know where they are sourcing LCD panel's from, or are CM making LCD panels now?

  • @AngelRivera-wp9bg
    @AngelRivera-wp9bg Před rokem +1

    It’s a KTC made just branded as CoolerMaster. The same exact model by KTC is a couple hundred cheaper.

  • @tylaroverturf
    @tylaroverturf Před rokem

    I'm looking forward to the reviews of the new LG 27" 1440p 240hz OLED monitor they just announced. It's $1000 also.

  • @NotLemont
    @NotLemont Před rokem

    All I want is a 24”, 1440p, 360hz reflective flat OLED monitor 🙏

  • @christianmeyer3333
    @christianmeyer3333 Před rokem

    I absolutely love that sweater

  • @gamehawk55
    @gamehawk55 Před rokem +1

    2:12 How many fingerprints would you like on your monitor?
    Plouffe: Yes

  • @brett_musgrove
    @brett_musgrove Před rokem

    The Odyssey neo g8 is on sale for $1000 right now and I'd take that over this monitor any day.

  • @chrisdiehl8452
    @chrisdiehl8452 Před rokem

    I have an Acer XZ272U.
    It says it it 2K, but when you connect using HDMI it is 4K.
    You might have the same issue with the 160Hz.

  • @deminybs
    @deminybs Před rokem

    noooooooo, I just got the refreshed version of the 👽 QD-OLED panel this week!!! lol

  • @velian6289
    @velian6289 Před rokem +1

    I want to get the 1440p version of it, the GP27Q, but i can never find it in stock on amazon or newegg.

  • @tessiof
    @tessiof Před rokem

    Waiting for a IPS Black Mini-LED