These are OBJECTIVELY great! - Bose QuietComfort Buds 2
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Resident earbud connoisseur James is here with the help of Labs to take a look at the new Bose QuietComfort Buds to see if Bose can take the crown for “Best TWS buds” or if Apple is still undefeated.
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CHAPTERS
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0:00 oof.mp3
0:18 Unboxing
1:03 Putting them in and calibration
1:35 Case impressions
1:50 Using the app
2:50 Sponsor - Pitaka
3:29 Tap controls
3:51 Different ANC modes
6:30 Audio testing from Labs
10:45 Battery life and pricing
11:32 Outro - Věda a technologie
a lab page with an interactive graph where users can chose which devices are compared would be really really nice!
should follow crinacle if you love the nerds stuff about headphone or earphones
at this point it's really hard to compete with crinacle's database
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That has been already planned to happen:
It was mentioned in one the "WAN-Show"-sessions that they'd need to first get the automation done for the report creation and publishling.
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I like seeing more graphs to show the capabilities of these earbuds. I'm already seeing LTT labs taking shape!
Glad to see the graphs from labs. Wondering if there can be testing at lower than 74 db. Maybe that will come by once their good Test chamber is setup (To help with signal to noise ratio with lower volumes)
That noise cancellation comparison histogram is awesome. I want to see a bunch of headphones compared. It would also be smart to compare the areas under each curve and then you could give relative performance percentages
I wanna see the WF-xm4
not a histogram...
not a histogram...
@@IzzatZaki Then correct them, people.
At least the difference between two curves would be easier to interpret when comparing.
Awesome to see the noise cancellation data from the labs! One suggestion no review site has yet tested to my knowledge: Test the noise isolation for single sharp or blunt noises (doors slamming, cutlery clinking, etc.). I have noticed big differences in my (many) ANC products there. Cheers!
Some i had tended to overcompensate which sounds like a heavy bass. Bunch of cutlery hitting a drawer insert is a great test - at least a great test at home^^
Would have liked to see some more ANC comparisons like to the Pixel Buds Pro or the Sony XM4 earbuds
The Bose QC2s have superior noise cancellation compared to the WF-1000XM4s in my opinion.
@@kodylagreca agreed!
I'm really looking forward to more of these types of reviews in the future. This is so in depth, and I love it.
I love all these graphs on SC. I believe this is the first video where we directly see the contribution of Labs and it's A-MA-ZING. Keep it up guys!
I love seeing objective data on things that most times are up to a reviewers preferences. These graphs are super helpful and well made. The explanation along with them was perfect as well. Good job labs!
Love that you guys finally explained what all these new graphes mean! All the ones from the last time were just "nice lines" without much explanation what they actually mean.
The graph explanations were great! I’m guessing this was a product of the lab, which has me really excited!!
The graphs and explanations are much appreciated you guys 🙏. Great work!
Liked the showcase, LOVED the Labs lesson from James! Very interesting!
Very nice job describing the graphs! Totally understood how they were explained.
Wonderful explanation of the graphs by James. I finally understood some things i didnt quiet grasp before
Awesome review and a fantastic explanation of the tests and graphs! Well done team!
I for one am fine with the channel being more so of a review/unboxing one specifically moving forward. LTT is great in its own right, but I think ShortCircuit being those two would help keep focus and give the LTT audience more options as to what kind of content they'd rather subscribe to (or just both, of course). Either way, I'm enjoying both!
Like all other earbuds, the Airpods wouldn't stay in my ear and they really hurt. Bose was a clear winner just for being able to even stay put. They also happen to be comfy, although a little less than the last generation, and they have amazing sound quality. I am so happy with the smaller case and noise cancellation. I tested the sound blockage out today while at a completely holiday packed grocery store and it was like I was the only person there with Pandora playing. Without music, it was like being in a crowd with a few people whispering.
James trying to explain a lot of this, and make it sensible to us laymen, was taking every muscle in his body + pure skill, and I appreciate him putting in the work! 😂 ❤
I love the labs graphs and your explanation of them was pretty good too 👍
super dope to see the lab data starting to do its thing! one aspect im particularly interested in is comparing sections of the noise cancellation graphs for different headphones/iems as it translates to the perceived volume of different sounds - i.e headphone A measurably has better cancellation in the low end than headphone B, making it better for travel and eliminating the sound of bus/plane engines, but headphone B is greater for the mids and makes the chatter of a crowd more muted, so it'd be the better buy for people who study in cafes or things like that. there was a hint of it here, and i think if given more attention in future videos it would be really useful for people to know what anc gear is better for their use case
Nice to see labs info at last.
I really like the graphs keep doing it super informative.
James did a really soothing presentation pleasant to hear
you guys finally started measuring! Nice
You forgot the Sony WF-1000XM4! Seriously, how could you forget the best noise cancelling buds around.
great to see the various spectrum graphs
I know this is a couple months late to the show but honestly James killed it on this video. His explanations and breakdowns were bang on for this one.
Idk man, I got my pixel buds pro and I've been very happy with them. Great sound, easy to use, consistent, good battery life, good case, and good noise cancelling.
Love the graphs! Keep up the great work!
I think that the options to "relax" and "focus" are just there to show the users that they can make custom profiles. Given the pencil icon I think thats where they want to steer you
I LOVE this video! is there a video that compares more models together at once with the ANC graphs? those are awesome, always in search of the best anc to block out voices and crying babies on flights
These are an improvement over the 1st gen buds. czcams.com/users/postUgkxK5mc3yw4xA7Mf2j6k6n1Uqv_KUgrKdeM Pros: The fit is fantastic. This is the biggest plus. They stay in my ears when running and become unnoticeable. They are tight but comfortable. The sound quality is about the same as the 1st gen buds. They pair more easily with my LG G8 ThinQ and immediately reconnect when removed from the case. The sound balance is excellent, good but not overpowering base and clean mid tones and highs.Cons: The noise cancellation is good but perhaps a little less effective than the Bose ANC on the 1st gen buds. Passthrough mode as not as good as the 1st gen buds making it a little more difficult to hear conversations when in passthrough.
I work construction and can confirm that the 5k point in the noose cancellation mode does cut thru some what. It’s a high pitched noise but it’s dulled down so it’s not harmful.
Just got these coming for 1st gen AirPods and they’re amazing. I have also tried the first gen air pod pros and these blow them out of the water
This is very interesting James. Good to see the labs at work.
The lab stuff is awesome! Good job explaining it James.
I had the Sportbuds up until recently, and they were really good, minus a few things I didn't like. But glad to see these rate so well.
Thank You, Your video is both informative and entertaining.
It's certainly no short circuit anymore but it was very interesting & I'd like more videos like this. No fanboy bashing of X vs Y. Just some facts, easy to follow explanations and two great products. Well done! Thank you!
Great overview. I bought the AAP2 and don't have an iPhone. Works well for what I want. The Bose I heard were a little noisy in the passthru but..... My wife may take these AP and I may just get the Bose if I'm looking to burn 300 bucks.. hmm...
Sony wf 1000mx with Final Audio Type E eartips are amazing if anyone is looking for a great alternative. ANC to Ambient mode is all you need of ambient mode is good enough imo. I toggled between the three on my Sony's and ended up just removing the off mode in the settings.
So these are silicone eartips? I'm fed up with all my foam eartips falling apart on me
Why are those tips better than the stock ones?
@@iicalcipheriim the battery life is great on the wf1000 mx4 and I found for my ears that the foam would fatigue my ears. The tips I recommended, for many ears will likely be less fatiguing. Also I was unable to notice a loss in audio quality or seal. It's possible the foam tips would be fine in your ears, but for me I had to find something else. The one I mentioned are comfortable and comes in a kit with a lot of sizes so you out can find a great fit.
@@corey7219 yeah silicon for me is far more comfortable for extended listening periods.
I don't usually comment on videos but this was so awesome with all the additional info that I had to say thank you.
Nice to see labs' work in the show. Can we get some recordings of audio on these? I have reference headphones but very few people post sound quality samples from different headphones or earbuds especially.
nice to see labs is finally setup and provide graphs for objective review
You can adjust the AirPod pros in the sound and haptics under headphone safety. You can max it out at 100db if ya want👍🏼
I have these. I had issues using them with my Pixel 4a. During a work meeting on Meet, it'd work fine, but if my phone received a call during the work meeting, the earbuds would get kicked off as an audio device and after I finished rejecting the call, the work meeting audio would come out the phone speaker instead of the Bluetooth like when I started the meeting.
That's no good. Hopefully that's fixed in a software update. Sucks when the buds are expensive.
That sounds like a problem with the phone.
That's an issue with the phone. Probably something Google "doesn't want" to fix because it's an older phone.
That's a phone / BT handoff issue, since if call comes in the phone will treat the buds as a call device.
I have the QC Gen 1 and the shark fin ear tips are amazingly secure. I can run while wearing them without any fear of them falling out. The complete opposite of the Sony XM4, B&W Pi7 and AirPods. The QC Gen 1 also sound better than AirPods Pro Gen 1. I hate that Bose chose this new design to make them have a slimmer profile to match Apple.
I am admittedly a big bose fan, always have been, and their headphones/earphones have never disappointed me. Not only that, but their customer service has always been nothing short of phenomenal. I currently have the 700's and they're exceptional in sound quality and the noise cancelation is among, if not the best I've ever used.
Wow labs is definitely a huge resource for consumers nice job ltt team!
So are we gonna get that database for all the earbuds headphones LTT Labs tested with that model head?
For in ear devices it has always been about the fit. At this time I have found something that works for me. Even with using other Bose devices when I would in a professional sound recording studio out of college, I would not roll the dice and purchase these now.
Apple EarPods, and AirPods have never stayed in my ears without a third party device (earhook). This is why I moved to the Ultimate Ears Fit. If I did not own these I might now purchase the Ultimate Ears Drops for even better fit. Thing is down the road might give the Apple AirPods 2, or maybe the Bose a try.
Labs is doing a great job. I love the graphs.
WF1000 XM4 from Sony. Went original airpods to galaxy buds to Sony. They are very very good. I get this channel content but it'd be nice to not focus on only an apple product. Hoping labs changes this across channels. EDIT: Are they better than my Sony earbuds? That's my problem
This is what I actually wanted to know.
check out crinacle's videos. based on objective measurements the xm3s are actually "better" than the xm4s with the galaxy buds pro 2nd gen performing the best in terms of sound out of all the popular twses
@@damushroomlord he talks about tuning but the xm4 whoops xm3 ass for detail ...a smidge of eq and it's way better...different signature fe the xm3 ofc...
I'm currently using Galaxy Buds Pro and was thinking of getting some xm4s
But I don't know if the upgrade is worth the money.
@WhiteWolf496 maybe in terms of anc but in not in terms of sound. Get yourself some comply tips instead
love the science and the concise explanations
What kind of noise do you use for the ANC graph? Because as I understand these don’t cancel the noise in real time, they have to predict what the noise will be like in the next few milliseconds, and getting that right is both difficult and affects the real world performance a lot.
Surprised that you didn't mention the lack of wireless charging and multipoint pairing, which is a big deal on $300 earbuds. I like the Labs graphs for some objectivity in the review, but I like when you spend more time talking about features and your impressions (comfort, usability of touch controls, ...)
I don't care about that; I have them. My three biggest area of concerns are: one sound quality, secure fit, during workouts, and noise cancellation, because I use them in a noisy gym environment. Bose covers everything hands down. Hands down the best for me.
I don't dish out 599 bucks for wireless charging that can be had on cheapo walmart earphones. It's the ANC that people pay for and in that category the Bose QC Earbuds 2 are the new King for both human voice and plane cabin noise cancellation. ShortCircuit got it wrong with their frequency interpretations. Now, multipoint is indeed a feature it should have, but it's still not a deal breaker. The ANC, Comfort and well-rounded sound stage are just too good.
Multipoint is handy jumping from mobile to tablet to laptop. Qc earbuds v. 1 have the Multipoint, switching from the single button on the case and it is really handy. Also the ability of each bud to work independently would be nice.
wireless charging sadly probably won't be available anytime soon, but multipoint will likely be added with a later firmware update.
I've heard rumors that multipoint is to be added in a new update, as is lossless audio capabilities
You actually can change the transparency mode to normal or to adaptive transparency in your settings of your Airpods Pro.
i love the new curves and sheets!
Ooo I love the noise canceling graph. Please make a few Techquickie episodes so that these explanations are easier to find and share with people
Great. Now I've got Mojo Pin playing in my head. Gonna have to play the album now. Thanks, man! ;)
Cool video, these plots were excellent.
I am already in love with the lab.
Those graphs are incredible. Really neat to see the fruit from Labs
I got the Bose GC eaarbuds. Love them! Might look into these when its time to upgrade :)
i love all that data, this is (finally) a serious headphone review. great work lmg!
well written script! you guys naild it!
Hey guys.@Shortcircut Great review, but the only thing i found lacking in the video is the test of the in built microphone.
As someone who loves looking at audio curves for fun, I am beyond happy with all the data! Please please do this for every audio review.
i dont get the point of a EQ app for earphones when every phone has a EQ anyway
@@girlsdrinkfeck the bose buds save the EQ settings on the buds, when done with the App - so when you connect them to anything, that does not have an EQ (Nintendo Switch, your TV, etc.) the buds still sound like configured in the app.
@@ntm_aka_badluck cool but... No one ever changes eq settings for a kids console lmao
@@girlsdrinkfeck True but you can also let others have the option and don't use it yourself
@@girlsdrinkfeck Pixels don't have an eq, and windows 10 doesn't either.
There's no Harman Kardon target, it's just the Harman target. Also it's not what "artist intended" it's just what most people prefer (theoretically). Many people find this target too bass heavy (in-ear target)
I really like the new format.
I like the rubber band which isn’t on the airpods, if you find it hard for the airpods to stay in your ears then the rubber bands may help with that because they hold on to the exterior part of the ear and you can adjust the size
i use air pod pros on my android device and honestly im not missing out on much from when i had an iphone, i can still access noise cancelling and transparent mode which is all i care about.
What app do you use on android to enable/change these features?
This is late but it’s really nice to see James again on the short circuit
I'd love to see those graphs for QC 35s and sony's noise canceling headphones
the labs results are really nice, though having someone do the linus test of comfort by lying down and seeing if you could sleep with them in would be really helpful too I think
Please also start mentioning the used protocols for Bluetooth. Especially AptX Adaptive would be interesting for Low Latency.
very nicely done. thanks
Really hope to see some graphs of the Sony mx4 I've been looking at buying them for a while and it'd be great to see some hard facts on how they perform compared to others like these bose ones
I'm pretty sure the noise cancelling modes are not doing anything different from each other, they're just presets of how much ANC to apply based on the slider. So Relax by default might be in the middle of the ANC scale and you can edit to let's say make it the lowest level of ANC, but then it's not really relax mode anymore, even though that's the name of the setting
I'm a little worried over the fact that ANC is basically always on with these buds. ANC has to utilize the microphones on the buds, which means there's always a risk that it'll start picking up wind.
My current buds (sony wf sp800n) are AWFUL with ANC. If I use them to go running or biking outside with ANC on, I will constantly be hearing wind noises. Having the ability to turn it off and be 100% sure it won't be picking up any wind is very important.
Just got the Sony WF-1000XM4 last week for only 180. Seems like a way better deal to me.
I love this but I wish there was an audio test for the microphones, for phone calls.
Not having fully/mostly customizable ambidextrous gestures feels about as useful as Bixby.
Who has the the best ambidextrous headset?
I love these ear buds. Wore them on a flight
Love the data, but is there any way to make the graphs more readable? And I agree that they make a video more than just unboxing, but it also makes the video more valuable.
One of the most important things to know for me is. What about phone conversations? can they filter out the noise around me, so it only focuses on my voice? or will the person on the other end hear everything around me aswell ?
I've owned the bose for about a month, easily the best noise canceling around but the transparency is shit right now. I replaced it because of mono mode issues and the second pair sounded the same and i found out the bose rep lied mono mode is broken and not fully supported right now. I wore them the whole week for vacation and struggled to keep up with conversation because it would randomly start to noise cancel. However i wore them to the shooting range and i couldn't tell people were shooting, it picked up the shot and silenced it easily in transparency. My pairs had no hissing at all. Also, my pair had independent volume, the buds and phone were not sync'd and i had to max out phone and control with buds.
Had these for a month and a half now and while the noise cancellation is great, the aware mode is awful if you're in a remotely noisy environment. In a quiet area, fantastic. But I operate cranes and with just the engine noise, if any non constant sound happens, like someone talking, the earphones just don't know what to do and muffle the heck out of everything
The noise canceling doesn't update while sound is playing. For example, while listening to an audiobook through Audible, the noise cancellation will only adjust while paused.
The only in-ear buds that would remain in my ear were Bose QC 1st Gen. I had AirPods and then AirPods Pro, but they wouldn’t stay in my ear so I had to change to something else.
What about the repairability of the Bose ear buds? Can one change the batteries without destroying them?
One major thing I want to know is if I can use both earbuds independently.
That way I can use my left earbud till it dies then switch to the right earbud. The previous model did not allow for that and was the reason why I bought the sony XM4 (which I love)
I’d have the first ones, I would get the second ones still over air pods, I can’t put stuff directly in my ear hole, they are literally just to small Bose are the best on the market that doesn’t bury themselves in my ears
I'd love for you guys to check out the One+ Buds Z2. I got some several months ago, and they seem to punch well above their $80 price tag (apparently only $50 for black friday when I just googled to double check I had the price right).
Thanks for sharing this❗👍🤙
the fact that you guys have experts who know the intricacies of human hearing and how it works, make you 1000% more able to measure audio devices and give real to world reviews.
The fact that I've NEVER EVER heard in the past 36 years... in ANY "respected" audio or hi-fi publication (magazines, and these days youtube) about the effects of fletcher munson curve has on your hearing is amazing, but you've taken that effect into account and understand that is exists... wonderful!
Human hearing is far away from flat line and it's sensitive to the volume of the material...
This is amazing stuff and I commend your team for it!
(I'm a professional audio technician btw...)
Waking up to some James…today was a good day.
Just a clarification, you can change the Apple decibel limit. The decibel limit is linked to your phone not the AirPods themselves. So the Apple wired headphones also adhere to the limit. You can change the limit in steps of 5db from 70db to 100db in Settings > Sounds & Haptics > Headphone Safety.
Personally I have mine set to 80db so that I can “blast” the audio at max volume. However due to the limit, the loud sounds are brought down while the soft sounds are left alone at a higher volume. Thus, it is great when listening to videos at 2x speed where speech can fluctuate in intensity.
I actually prefer the noise canceling to focus on the lows and highs rather than mids as it makes it is more likely to cancel the machinery, which is what my goal is 90% of the time. I also work on a dock with a lot of machinery though so that noise is all around me. I am also not sure how I feel about the inability to actually turn off the ANC.
Agreed it's nice to have the choice to have everything off for better battery life
You won't be disappointed by the Bose QC Earbuds 2 in that department for cancelling out machinery noise. In the graph you can see that it's exactly these frequency ranges on the left and right side that the Bose are better than the Airpods, while the Airpods are only better in the mids which is neither human voice nor machinery noise.