The time Gary Neville tried to convince Steven Gerrard to sign for Man Utd 👀
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Gary Neville and Jamie Carragher discuss some of the most controversial transfers of all-time including Carlos Tevez's switch to Man City and the fight for Steven Gerrard's signature.
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That’s why I find it hilarious when people say Gerrard was overrated. He had the whole of the England team wanting him to sign for their club
Warra PL title for Gerrard.
I've never heard gerrard of being overrated
@@saynomoredontask6077 literally, think everyone knows he was great, maybe hes talking about people who think hes worse than lampard or scholes
Who says Stevie was overrated?
Maybe Chelsea fans during the whole Lampard vs Gerrard fiasco, but they were not genuine critiques. To say he was immense for Liverpool would be an understatement...
I say this as a United fan who despises Liverpool. Nothing but respect for Gerrard.
Lots of people thought Gerrard wasn't a top player and you watched him week by week you'd kno' why
as a united fan... i can safely say. Gerrard was the scariest player in the league to play against (other than henry). he could do it all.... spray an 80 yard pass from his own corner flag. Dive into a 50-50 no dramas... shoot from literally anywhere. the guy was special....we need to stop this narrative that he wasn't up there with figo and zidane as one of the players EVERYONE and i mean everyone wished they had at their club.
The number of bangers Gerrard scored in every derby as well as other matches. Real BMT. The MVP of midfielders but the fact is Scholes has all the PL titles.
@@CA213FAN he didn't score in EVERY Derby
@@CA213FAN the difference. Scholes play smart. Gerard play Hard.
Gerrard was an overrated midfield player whose best position was as an attacking half.
We need to stop using the word narrative
When David Jones isn't there between them, they are much more civil with eachother lol
Oul davey Jones likes to stir the pot
Davey creates a debate atmosphere as a neutral mediator, when theyre on their own it's a conversation so hostilities of a debate aren't needed. All for ratings at the end of the day, I do like this format all the same
They'll end up married.
@@broken1394 they act like they've been married for 20 years
He’s there to play Devil’s advocate between Gary and Jamie.
The same with Simon Jordan, Jim Whyte and whomever is opposite Simon.
"not that Loyal when John Terry went around to his room" - thats been said before for sure
Hahaha, water under the "Bridge"
@@jamesmichaels4979
Haha.
Lol! That’s terry ble.
Pack it in lads 😂😂😂
Lol
This is so true.. when you think about Alan Shearer he’s remembered more for being a Newcastle legend than winning the premier leauge with Blackburn.
Haha only to Newcastle fans. For everyone else hes remembered for his unplayable Blackburn days.
@@moz7777 depends on your age I think, I’m only 20 years old and my memory of shearer is Newcastle
@@josephhoskinson6758 How? You were 4 when he retired 😂😂
@@choke9270 I didn’t say I watched him that’s just what comes to mind when I think of Shearer
Shearer I think is better than Henry
Neville: Think about it, okay?
Gerrard: Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee'course.
Legend says he is still Yeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeein --- coz he is yet to join ... lol ....
Anyone saying gerrard was overrated or that he wasn't world class doesn't know what they are talking about, and I'm not a Liverpool fan
both things can be true at the same time... you can be world class and overrated.
for example player A might be world class but some ppl clal him the greatest ever... that would make him both wc and overrated
Gerrard was a wc player but also a tier below xavi iniesta Scholes Zidane etc
@@vkdeen7570 Well either or, that's what I meant. Yeah but some people don't even put gerrard in the world class bracket, and that's wrong. He was
People talk about him being a loyal player he isn't though he went to la galaxy
@@Ajs_1988 I mean I'm a utd fan and I'm putting Gerrard firmly in the wc bracket.
@@vkdeen7570 nah scholes and Gerrard should be in same tier below the others u mentioned
Think Gerrard earned universal respect for his loyalty to Liverpool.
He's not a loyal player he went to LA galaxy
@@HarryKanee lol
He was out the door to Chelsea till Liverpool gangsters threatened him
La galaxy doesnt exist
Totti ~ “he would captain my dream world XI”
When Gerrard backed out of the Chelsea move and stayed back at Liverpool, I knew at that moment that he would never leave Liverpool, his heart would always be at Liverpool. Respect Gerrard for that, and that’s coming from a Chelsea fan
The scouse gangsters death threats to his family is the only thing that stopped that transfer.nothing to do with lfc
@@bartman01021988 you must be one of these people that are into conspiracy theories and belive that the earth is flat!.
He “backed out” because his family got death threats 🤣
He got scared of death threats from fans that's what changed his mind not his so called love for liverpool fact
@@michaelmyers4053 you call speculations and heresay as 'fact'? You need to go back and learn what fact is.
Gerrard stuck with Liverpool and dragged them through one of their most unsuccessful periods. If you don’t rate Gerrard then you don’t know football.
Could have won so much more at Chelsea fc (just saying)
Or are blinded by bias..
Gerrard being one of best players & staying at Liverpool whole career is something special, even more so today as it’s so rare. Integrity & Loyalty say so much about a person who shows both of them.
Agree, but he had that Chelsea fiasco in 2005 where there were serious rumours he was trying to leave. Hats off to him though, one of the best to ever do it!
Loool he was threatened to stay at liverpool by gangsters he had his bags packed to go Chelsea
@@MargotDobbie Exactly
@@williamfranzen8548 the whole fiasco happened cos Rafa/The club were delaying the contract talks. Gerrard mentioned in the book he wasn't sure what was happening
@@itisdarren19 I remember hearing on Carra's pod that Gerrard takes responsibility for his flirtations with Chelsea, but he did it in part because he wanted Liverpool to know what he had. Gerrard definitely played a role in that
Most complete midfielder ever stevie g. He had the skills but it’s the passion and will to die for the cause is what counts most.
His first touch at important moments could let him down a bit.
@@jrobs1133 He said he was MOST complete. Every player has something they need to work on
Never Scholes was miles better then
@@elfsborgsupporter274 scholes never carried united on his back that was Roy Keane.. there's a reason why Gerrard was picked over scholes for the centre and scholes couldn't tackle.. scholes was seriously talented but he was nowhere near a monster that Gerrard was who carried liverpool on his back for 10 years..scholes only truly was lauded when he left
@@elfsborgsupporter274 and earth is flat yeah.
The worst rival transfer was Luis Figo from Barcelona to Madrid . They literally threw a pigs head at him on the pitch 😂
@@anthonypantzillar8862 stewards probably hated luis figo just as much
Make a good stew lol
This is why Madrid will always own Barcelona. Taking a player who was candidate for winning Ballon D'or that year(he actually did win after that transfer) at the peak of his career from your most hated enemy, nobody could ever do. Perez 👏
Cell phones too when he visited the Barca stadium.
That reaction from thr barca faithful was next level stuff.
Michael Owen whether he admits it or not ruined his Liverpool legacy by moving up the road to the enemy. He didn't need to do that and knew the consequences. Hard to respect him after that.
I do agree but also Liverpool partially hampered his career as from 17 years old he got played far to much and after he left LFC he had an injury prone career.
Carragher actually did a podcast with Owen as a guest on there and spoke quite openly about this, it's fascinating the agendas behind certain moves, give it a listen if you ever get the chance.
@@james-yn4zz why don’t u just give us the gist of what he said ?
@@paulgal simply said he wouldve loved to have gone back to liverpool instead of man utd it just wasnt on the table and at that point no other offer was even close to playing for man utd. he didnt have the legs to play every game so being a super sub poacher for one of the biggest clubs in the world was absolutely the most amazing opportunity and right fit. he said if liverpool offered anything close to that he wouldve taken it.
I was mad at Owen at the time but years later I've got over it and more fondly remember his time at Liverpool when he was a Balon d'Or level player, he was nothing but a bit part player at United the whole episode was pretty forgettable.
Honestly, even as a die hard United fan how can anyone say Gerrard wasn't absolute class? its a damn shame that he never won a premier league winners medal, of all the players who deserved to win the league at least once, he's miles ahead
How many of the class of 92 do you think would of stuck around united in there prime at united now
He was so overrated Scholes 12 prem titles Gerrard 0
@@frankdoherty5687 I do think most of the class of 92 where loyal, Beckham would've got off but I think the rest would've stayed, but I get your point, he stuck to his guns, fair play to him
@@elfsborgsupporter274 Scholes should try winning the league when you have players like Dudek, Flanagan, Traore, Cisse in the first 11
CZcams highlights videos do not lie. Gerrard was the MVP boss in England But Scholes got all the trophies. fact.
Gerrard overrated? No way. He was the first player on the Liverpool team sheet for years, their talisman. You could argue that his game suffered at times by him trying to do too much.
You had United and Chelsea players desperate to get Gerrard to sign for their already successful clubs.. yet their fans will say Gerrard was overrated 😭
Liverpool were very bad then
@@elfsborgsupporter274 it's a shame he hasn't won the premier League
Yes good prem team what to sign players to join then 😂. We signed almost every good English baller like Ashley young. Is Ashley young good?
Overrated doesn't mean bad 🤦♂️
I don't know where you are going with that. Players can be overrated and still be required for a specific club as per their needs. So basically clubs can sign overrated players even if they are not world class to fulfill their clubs need.
He was one of those players. You just look at him at say, "Love to have him playing for us". Its why terry and neville were tapping him up a bit. He was a leader through and through. If you cant see it then football just aint for you
Sol Campbell got so much hate when he left Spurs also for the fact he left on a free transfer, he had joined Spurs' youth team and progressed to be there best player and captain, then leaves on a free transfer to their most hated rivals. But ultimately he did what Gary said here and wanted to win trophies and won the double in his first season.
*their
Stevie G is an absolute icon , unreal player !
Fergie said the only player that could replace Keane was Gerrard.
Indeed.
As a Liverpool fan that's how I feel about Michael Owen
Michael wasn't really prolific at United. He came from relegated Newcastle team and knew that he was there to keep the bench warm. Owen's best years were at Liverpool. I can't hate him for going to United when Liverpool wanted nothing to do with him at the time.
Language.
2:04 that one spurs fan ruining it by holding his sign upside down 😂😂
😂😂😂😂😂
It’s happened again🤣
Even the fans have embraced the Bottling mentality 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Says it all tbh
SAD UJ
Tevez has always stated he wouldn’t of left United but was let down by Fergie who quibbled about the valuation of him. Ultimately he felt undervalued and who would want to work with a manager who hadn’t tried his hardest to keep you? I think Tevez was one of Sir Alex’s biggest mistakes because his work rate alone showed his desire to be a winner!
We Man Utd fans don't hate him though. We simply didn't care. He was a good player at united and no one could take this away from him. He helped us win matches and trophies. Some people only hated him cause he said something bad about Fergie. People forgot that quickly and moved on with life.
True, that was Fergie’s fault. United fans seems to think Fergie was infallible.
I read something ages ago now that Tevez, sometime in 2007 or 8, said he intended to retire with 4 or 5 years. Allegedly Fergie didn't think paying £26m for a player looking to retire before long was worth it.
He was a great player for us, no doubt
@@charlesstilesmysterydinersfn Correct
* wouldn't have left United. What is it with people not being able to use words properly!?!
A Liverpool supporter from North East India because of Steven Gerrard 🤩
I said this during the summer, imagine Harry Kane in a time warp back to 1998-2004 in the England squad surrounded by all the united boys, the mandate from SAF would have been extremely clear:
‘Have lunch with him, socialise with him, I don’t even care if you have to share a bed with him - you line up that move to Old Trafford’
Love these two together . Who would have thought it many years ago.
Fergie had scholes and wanted gerrard, mourinho had lampard and wanted gerrard... Stevie was the best and most complete midfielder there has been, not even up for debate.
After Gary had listed all of Tevez's skills and attributes as a footballer, I was expecting Jamie to say "which of those skills do you think you had?" Then, as Gary answers, Jamie would say "Nah, ya didn't ..."
For me these 2 are the best sport presenters in the world of sports
Imagine if Beckham would have stayed at ManU throughout his career..
He wouldnt have been able to expand his brand but maybe be regarded as an even better football if he just stayed there
Tbf he left at 29. He's a United player, not a Madrid player.
Then we wouldn't have gotten CR7...
@@ryanmitchell1265 *28
But the point still stands, he didn’t leave as a 21 year old.
Say what you want about Gerrard. He was loyal to Liverpool. Liverpool could of been fighting relegation and Gerrard would of stayed no money or trophies would got him to move .he was a captain that would gone down with the ship not just drive it
He chose to remain a big fish in a little pond. We will never know how important Stevie G would have been in a league winning team. He was in a few liverpool teams good enough to win the league,but never did. Take away the olympiakos goal, the milan goal, and the west ham goal (but why would we, you might fairy ask) and hes not even in the gerrard/lampard/scholes debate. He was a fantastic ,well rounded player. No more. For a few seasons he was world class, lampard and scholes spent their whole careers being world class. Loyal to liverpool? I call it a damning lack of ambition. He was guaranteed game time at liverpool because of his cult of personality, he was too afraid to play for a team full of stars.
@@helenkennedy6493 and whats wrong staying with the same team all your career? Unfortunately in football these days you don't see loyalty. He was faithful for Liverpool, when your faithful to a club or anyone or anything you go through the ups and downs with them
@@joewhite2203 Yh all you see is Jack Grealish going for money and lying to Aston Villa that he wants to stay forever and others. I always liked loyalty and stayed within your club thin and thin but sometimes when you want to win trophy or anything you move to a bigger club not just for money but to win trophies abs make your career satisfying.
Take away those goals and what? You have goals against Top top clubs in important games. Really retarded narrative have against gerrard. Fact is it you ask fans all over the country they’d have gerrard in every big game. Lampard over the course of a full season and only united fans are mentioning scholes
Wow bang on there from Gary regarding legacy! That period between 35 - 75 of your life after football, what an insight! Wisdom.
I've always said it about Paul Ince. He's not welcome at West Ham for obvious reasons. He's not particularly liked at Man U because he fell out with Ferguson. Liverpool see him as Man U even though he played for them. So who does he go to watch now? Inter, Wolves or Middlesbrough
Well he's on the United stand now so I'm guessing he watches man united
We Man utd fans still love Paul Ince.
I can't believe you love Ince more than ferguson. Shocking
Once a Man United player always a Man United player. Same with the fans. Ince is regularly on the United Stand & Michael Owen is always at the United stadium/studio talking about Man U like the fan we all know he is 👏 listen to his pundit commentary
I IDOLISED ince as a child.
My most embarrassing memory is 8 year old me handing him my bobble hat outside the players exit, and him trying to sign it with a biro “I don’t want you to sign it Paul, just to touch it. I love you!”
I’m not sure he’s loved at United, I certainly don’t love him anymore.
Gerrard was a mentlity monster. Genuine match winner.
Every top club wanted him. Mourinho tried with every club, Fergies wanted him etc
When they're talking about making moves and Grealish's move this smacks big time. Yeah he might be a big success in years to come, but right now he must have big regrets
lol dont lie
Yeah sure he's gonna cry himself to sleep with his premier league winners medal
Liverpool fans rate Gerrard far higher than Suarez or Torres or Owen because he had the talent to play for a better club but stayed loyal to Liverpool and that kind of loyalty and sacrifice isn't forgotten.
Talk about the time you tried to convince fans especially Manchester United fans that Ole had a clue in what he was doing.
he had a clue
Cos things have turned around so well since ole was sacked? Hang on…
Legend Aston Villa are going on an adventure and I am looking forward to seeing where they go.
Even pirlo was scared of gerrard
so all you fans from Arsnal and Man U Chelsea who have said Gerrard was overrated and not beter than the players you had how do you feel ? now knowing your players were begging him to join them not good enough my ass
Stevie G and Francesco T are the emotion in football
Really good points, regarding your later career after you stop playing from Neville here. Footballers that do move from one major rival to another rival dont tend to have that 'legend' status among neutral fans once they stop playing.
Paul Scholes 11 league titles. Roy Keane 7 league titles. Fact is they dominate the league when they played. Carrick 5 league titles.
@@youhalgh Carrick was very good for United sit and hold. He would walk into the team now. My pick will all ways be Keane Scholes. All you have is name calling.
We’re at the same hospital together when we were born, Whiston Hospital. I lived in Liverpool til 88 then I moved to LA. Huyton... long time ago.
Michael Owen is a classic examolr of not thinking in the long term, dude burns bridges everywhere and is still booed at Anfield
First person who came to mind.
With regards to the Tevez comment… his dedication and loyalty are admirable; however he forgot something… professional sports is a big entertainment business. Players leave and clubs, without even blinking, transfer players. He was likely too young at that point.
Can't believe sky have stopped warning us about these heated debates. This was brutal!
This happened to me growing up when Alan Smith left for Manchester. As a young lad that broke my heart as he was my favourite player who i never thought would leave Leeds for our rivals.
Ashely Cole from Arsenal to Chelsea was up there with Sol Campbell going from Tottenham to Arsenal.
Such a legend Gary!
Wasn't Tevez's issue made more difficult with his third party rights? I think at that time Kia Joorabchian literally owns him and wanted more fees from Utd. He didn't get it, things got into a whirlwind and he engineered a move out to a club whose new rich lords could offer him the money: City.
that one guy with the upside ‘judas’ sign 🤣
Gerrard turned down Madrid, chelsea and inter and they where all miles better than Liverpool not a Liverpool fan but you have to clap him for that loyalty
Mourinho, Fergie, the all write negative stuff. But in reality the chekbook was ready for Gerrard.
Always tough with team loyalty because every single club will drop for get rid of a player if their form falls off. No matter who it is except the top 1%.
So if we’re just talking the greats I get it. But for 99% of “club loyalty” from the club is only loyalty until their form drops. Great points from both guys but it’s a business for players as much as the teams
Gary neville obvs didnt come from the background tevez did so fair play to tevez trying to get as much money as he could
I disagree heavily on this. Understand loyalty, but why do we expect with players to be loyal, when the clubs are shifting players and forceing them out at the first opportunity they let them down. Just look at Newcastle treatment to coloccini and Jonas gutierrez, or Arsenals treatment to Özil, or Casillas treatment at Madrid.
Let the player do what’s best for him. And if that is to leave, then Good for him.
PSG treatment on Cavani and thiago silva aswell, they didnt offer them a contract after 8 years being in the club, silva even said they didnt offer him and cavani even a single euro to stay at psg
I agree. Football is full of conditional loyalty. A player could be at a club from academy and barely get a shot. Many players get shifted without a bat of an eye whilst people expect players to be loyal.
It's all conditional. As long as a move makes sense then there shouldn't be a problem.
They didn’t say its right but its just the reality. Whether it was the right thing for the player to do or not basically becomes irrelevant because peoples perceptions are unfortunately more important in football than the actual reality
Gerrard - skill, intelligence, looks and humour. No wonder some people can’t resist having a dig
Used to hate nev as a player but seeing his actual personality, what a belter
What a player, one of the best, I would have still liked to have seen him at Real Madrid with some of the best Players in the World.
It’s just a career. We’re long past the dark ignorant days of being wedded to your job. It’s not your family, it’s not your life. It’s just your profession, and there is nothing wrong with making moves in your career to achieve success & see yourself to your potential, and deserved personal fulfilment.
Get with the times already guys, jeez.
you can't force foreign players to have that same mindset as gary does. he grew up knowing only manchester utd, foreign players don't see it that way, it's a business at the end of the day.
To say that money was a part of the Tevez deal is an understatement. Like all of the signings made by these state owned clubs, it was ALL about money. They are even queuing up to sign for Newcastle these days.
These two should make a movie
Would like to know Carra's opinion on Michael Owen going to United
Steveie will win PL as a manager am sure, maybe not with aston villa but i can see him being a superstar manager like zidane
How's that going? Lol
Well Gerrard won the Champion League with Liverpool which is much harder
Ashley Cole to Chelsea was quite bad to
People like to point out that Gerrard never won the Prem yet fail to realize he could have so easily gone to a club that would have. Yet he chose not to and that speaks volumes.
There could be loads of reasons for why he never left. It’s not just loyalty to Liverpool.
But he didn’t go and he never won league throughout his career.
People will forget loyalty in years to come. Only what you win will remain
@@seyibey8126 opposite
So true. he could havewon many trophies and been captain at any of his suitor clubs.
Gerrard didn’t win the league due to a lack of talent personally, so it’s always a slightly hollow taunt.
Who would have wanted carragher though?
Funny hearing John Terry and loyalty in the same sentence 😏
I think the idea is don't leave for a club that is a direct rival. Best is move to another country. Also, don't leave in bad terms(like Coutinho did, stop training etc)🙏 .
Ronaldo and Suarez both respectfully left United and Liverpool and also celebrated against them, but no fan from those side would ever hate these two.
Ronaldo is and always will be a legend at utd.
As for suarez. . .
Gerrard may have actually won a league title on Utd bench and making 10 season appearances. That happened to Michael Owen when he played for Utd.
"That loyalty pays you back further down the line"
"I agree"
Oh really, Jamie? The boyhood Everton fan 😂😂😂
So was Gerrard...
@@CallMobDuty why is this absolute myth still alive?
@@CallMobDuty watch "What I Wore" from BT Sport
So many clips of him wearing Everton shirts. Maybe he just doesn’t care as much as most people and it’s all an act?
I’m not sure I could bring myself to wear a Liverpool shirt or a City shirt, maybe if the kids lives depended on it, but I’d have a good think first.
@@tobilandsfried8083 have a look, loads of clips since he retired of him in an Everton shirt. Fair play if he doesn’t care, I know I do though.
I’m curious, if Gerrard had a terrible run of form at which his production dramatically dipped and it lasted for like, a season and a half, but his desire to prove himself to the club was still there….would Liverpool had kept him on indefinitely based on the fact that a year and a half ago he was incredible? Also adding into the mix, what if he was still viable in the transfer market at which they could stand to make a profit on his sale, would they sell him? I’m not sure 🤔
Look what people have said about De Gea at times, look what we did to Ole after only 3 months of being crap. At the start of the year we were going win the league, corners turned, back on track! 3 rubbish (really rubbish though) months, and he’s shown the door.
@@paulshuttleworth6261 Yup exactly my thought. I think some fans forget just how fickle and disrespectful they and the club can be to their (sometimes former) star players, yet it's wrong if a player decides to ply his trade for another club because they're supposed to be loyal, even if the club as a whole is significantly underperforming and not showing any real ambition for more. Don't get me wrong, Liverpool was able to reach back-to-back Champions League finals, one of which they won, that's no small feat, but to go 20 plus years without a domestic title is embarrassing for a club of that pedigree. It's great to have the desire to bring trophies to the team you supported as a kid, but for Steven to have to play his ass off year after year trying to drag Liverpool towards being a champion in the Prem, only to come up short time and time again, I'm sorry, but he had every right to seriously entertain other options.
People keep comparing him with SCHOLES and LAMPARD, but they forgotten that SHOLES and LAMPARD only play in 1 position while STEVIE played many position during his career. Ask yourself can SCHOLES and LAMPARD played other position like STEVIE?? If NO than STEVIE id better than 2 of them, Period.
Figo from Barcelona to Real Madrid that was toxic
There is some moves you just don't do, and switching from rivals is unforgivable IMO. There isn't many examples of when players have crossed clubs in the same City or rival cities and it working out. I just think you lose respect from both sets of fans. No way would United fans accept Gerrard into the club, I'm not disputing his ability but him playing for United would be all kinds of wrong!
You just know they're trying their hardest not to mention Michael Owen.
Steve G was wanted by the all club in Europe my beloved inter Milan pushed very very hard to get him I think he even wobble a little but he was like Totti was for Rome
Shame because I remember when I saw him the first time when he was 18 launching Mikel Owen with a 40 metres tops pin point perfect ball wearing adidas predator I just thought wow this kid is special !!!!!
Absolute best midfielder in the world in 2000 decade
Not everyone is gonna be a club legend your career and family are the real things...fans can turn on you in a second
“Carlos Tevez, like a kid in a playground” … fifa 15 commentary lol!
If I remember right, United didn't want to pay the 3rd party ownership, the fee for Tevez. Everyone knows that was a bad move and a mistake by the club! Look at all the goals he scored for city! United let his contract run down and refused to pay the fee! Their mistake! Sort your head out Gary!
Stevei G is this current market, god damn his price.
The complete box to box no.8, chipping in with 10 goals n 10 assists. Defending like a monster from the front. God damn
At the end of the day Gerrard playing for Liverpool back then would be the equivalent of say Kevin de Bruyne playing for Aston Villa. Of course all the clubs were after him because he was arguably the best center mid on the planet playing for the forth best team in the league and frankly for most of those years without him they wouldn't have even been a top six side. The reason Liverpool fans adore him so much is because on so many occasions its hard to count, when no one else on the pitch could be arsed, Gerrard would basically have to do everything on the pitch and grab a result from nothing. I've never seen a guy on so many occasions have to become a one man team and almost kill himself trying to get something out of a bad game.
Who would United drop for Gerrard - Scholes or Keane? Gerrard was a great player but like Tierry Henry said, I'd have Scholes before Gerrard or Lampard.
Gerrard got massively underrated after his retirement due to him not having won the league but during his playing days majority of players and managers picked him over Scholes and Lampard.
Young Gary Neville looked like Gareth keenan from the office
Imagine Phil Foden signing for Man United,.. would be absolutely sickening tbh 😂😂
That would be sickening 🤮
Wayne Rooney and Steven Gerrard is my favourite English player. Both of them were world class, and could play in any team strengthen the team.
These academy one-club guys can’t get into their minds, that someone that came from another country has not been fed the same stories of rivalries from childhood as these two English guys have, and just don’t care that much.
Do you think grealish will regret leaving villa, i know he will win medals and play at a high level in europe at city but if he stayed there his whole career i dont think there would be a club legend like it again in football from the same city at a boyhood club.
He'll go back one day. Not this summer one after
Yeah and the fans will take to him again i know it but it will never be the same.
maybe. but grealish moving to city gave aston villa a hundred million pounds. that is valuable too in a way. countinho leaving liverpool allowed them to get alison and vvd and that helped them win champions league and the premier league. lukaku leaving gave inter a 100 mill when they desperately needed it after lost revenue because of covid 19. grealish, if he had stayed his whole career would have been a club legend. at city he probably won't be because there are kdb, sterling, silva, foden, gundogan and mahrez that all do what grealish does. in my opinion his function at city is like a whetting stone. city bringing in top players helps prevent the current ones from becoming complacent. city is a top club and the mental strength and discipline required is different than being at a mid table club where the expectations are different. the high price tag hanging over grealish won't help either. but rodri took a season to bed in, maybe this will just take time. i hope he comes good, but we shall see.
Trent Alexander Arnold might hit that status? Maybe Rashford or Foden?
@@mitchaelhollingsworth1698 good point be intresting to see
I'm a united fan and I liked Tevez for going to city and winning the title there also
Well Michael Owen is classic example Liverpool youth team player and wonder kid going to rivals man utd later on. It tarnished his Liverpool career and many don’t consider him a Liverpool legend as a result
Imagine winning the Ballon d'Or at the age of 22. Imagine being a hero to so many kids who grew up watching you. Imagine scoring an insane goal in the World Cup at the age of only 18.
And today you are a legend in nowhere. No one chants your name, no one gives you a standing ovation everytime you appear in any stadium, be it in the stadium of your last club, your boyhood club, the best club you ever played for, or the club where you finally got the medal you wanted. That's Michael Owen for you.
I swear I honestly don't see how winning a medal beats loyalty in this one. 😅
Neville showing where he learnt them kane golf course tricks from.
If these 2 came through the youth ranks of Oldham they would not have been "loyal" they would have asked for a transfer and left.
Would rather gerrards career than owens any day of the week pretty sure owen would rather have stevies too now looking back
In a couple years this will definitely have 2 million views and will be on people's recommended pages.
A lot of these comments are very interesting varied though they may be. It is all very well talking about players who were loyal and players who were not. But what people should always remember is that to a club any player is a saleable commodity. And they always have been.
Listen, Man United might not thank me but get the contract out, put it on the table. Let him sign it, let him write whatever numbers he wants to put on there, given what he's done since he's come in. RANGNICK'S (Ole 3.0) at the wheel, man. He's doing it. He's doing his thing. MAN UNITED ARE BACK!!!
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So true about how loyalty plays a factor post career. I look at van Persie and it doesn't seem like he's idolised by any set of fans. That's why he tries so hard being a pundit and being the 'Arsenal voice' just so the fans like him but Arsenal hate him. He wasn't at United long enough to be a legend either.
He came to Old Trafford, with Fenerbahce and the Utd fans sang his name as he left the pitch , cheered when he scored his goal, so I think utd fans like him.
@@DeanoFrank nah ofc they like him bc he won the league for them. But he’s not a United legend and he’s not even top 10 strikers in United history.