The WORST And LEAST Cost Effective Bike Upgrades

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  • Upgrading your bike can improve your bike ride but are the marginal gains worth the cost? Manon and Alex cover 5 bike upgrades that don’t make your ride faster or more comfortable. You may not NEED colourful bearings and bike name stickers, but you still want them!
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    00:51 Super light bike bottle cage
    02:47 Bike custom paint
    05:09 Bike bolts
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  • @gcntech
    @gcntech  Před 5 měsíci +3

    What's the worst upgrade you've ever done? ⚙

    • @Mo.Jo.MTB_101
      @Mo.Jo.MTB_101 Před 5 měsíci +2

      Well first and foremost I stand by my "upgrade" as I love to work/change things on my bikes and I want them to look good... But putting custom decals on my (mtb) fork, or build a set of wheels my self (which is more expansive then buying a complete set) were maybe a bit pointless but those are nothing compared to replacing all the bolts on my XC Hardtail with Ti bolts which are not exactly cheap, don't weight much less and as I got them in silver don't look that much different (and the bike has a dropper and 4 piston brakes up front so the weight doesn't really make a difference) I guess that is my most stupid upgrade...🙈 When it comes to bottle cages I like to buy cheap ones and custom paint them, which is fun, not that expansive and looks nice... ;-)

    • @suzuki06g
      @suzuki06g Před 5 měsíci +1

      I'd like to think that every upgrade that I've done to my bike has value. But I am guilty of spending too much money on upgrades when it would be cheaper to buy a new bike with better components overall. That said, I have painted a frame (look good but was a total money pit) and once I replaced a rear derailer because it was severely scratched (but worked fine).

    • @BixbyConsequence
      @BixbyConsequence Před 5 měsíci

      Super-lightweight Rim Tape which was miserable. Returned quickly to my tried-and-true Velox tape but eventually tried the Schwalbe polymer rim liners, which are effective without the adhesive mess.

    • @abhimawa1
      @abhimawa1 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Last week I just got myself a mint condition preloved bike. It came with: stupid light carbon bottle cage & european made ceramic bb.
      Did you make this video deliberately after my purchase just to tease me? 😅
      Merry Christmas!

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 Před 4 měsíci

      Ceramicspeed aero cage that I'm putting on my Trek Emonda ALR build but technically it isn't an upgrade, basically the Trek Emonda ALR is going to be built with an unlimited budget so technically nothing on it be upgrades as it start it's first ride with most of the good stuff even sram red etap axs
      I looked my bike is getting all you have said but no bottle cages and so they technically not upgrades for me unless bike is already built

  • @edwardjednacz1641
    @edwardjednacz1641 Před 5 měsíci +71

    As a non-racer I want my bike to look nice. It’s not about weight it’s about coordinating the aesthetics.

  • @ericolima77
    @ericolima77 Před 5 měsíci +60

    Best useless upgrade was a bright stem cap written "ride it like you stole it". Reading that always gives me 10w more

    • @garysladek9110
      @garysladek9110 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Yes to the stem cap upgrade! Cheers.

    • @vecdran
      @vecdran Před 5 měsíci +1

      Mine is like a name badge sticker that says "Hello! I ride for beer."
      Just being honest. Also reminds me why I'm grinding up a hill.

    • @krystiannowosielecki6970
      @krystiannowosielecki6970 Před 5 měsíci +1

      White sugar skull on read cap - love it + red stem bolts

  • @carlstatham594
    @carlstatham594 Před 5 měsíci +15

    Cool. Didn't know about bolt upgrades. Ordering blue ones now.

  • @neilmdon
    @neilmdon Před 5 měsíci +37

    Manon’s facial expressions are the most worthwhile upgrade I could ever imagine; absolutely priceless.

  • @davidstihler9689
    @davidstihler9689 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Custom painting your bike is like getting a new bike. I’m gonna do mine this winter and am really excited about it

  • @graemejwsmith
    @graemejwsmith Před 5 měsíci +2

    Etched Top Cap - the one gifted by my nephew etched "Faster....Quicker....More....". Totally don't need it. But when I'm grinding it out and thinking of giving up - that top cap reminds me that the young whippersnapper is not going to get the old dog - yet. Keeps me going. Worth every penny of whatever he paid for it.

  • @matt_acton-varian
    @matt_acton-varian Před 5 měsíci +83

    Custom bike paint jobs are a massive aesthetic statement of the rider. Also makes handling the bike as a stolen item harder too as it is much easier to identify.

    • @leonbroekx
      @leonbroekx Před 5 měsíci +15

      And when you custom paint it you commit to the bike for longer. Which makes is less expensive.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 5 měsíci +1

      ​@@leonbroekx ha, the only bike I've owned for over 5yrs is an unpainted titanium bike. It's almost 20yrs old. I do have one custom painted bike a may keep indefinitely but I've sold the others I've had painted.

    • @leonbroekx
      @leonbroekx Před 5 měsíci

      @@veganpotterthevegan you are a special one

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 5 měsíci

      @leonbroekx not really. I've also sold plenty of custom painted bikes that customers didn't keep and I've bought bikes others didn't keep after getting custom paint.

    • @FML22
      @FML22 Před 5 měsíci +7

      Custom paint: I’m an IT tech and the son of an aerospace engineer, so of course I have a strong mindset that form should always follow function, and if there’s no functional benefit to an upgrade it’s useless. I suspect Alex, being a former bike mechanic, and who has a natural technical bent, has the same mindset. So yeah, custom paint may look cool, but does nothing to enhance the speed or physical ride characteristics of a bike, or make it more useful. But then my having swapped in an Ultegra GS r8000 rear mech instead of just swapping in a longer cage 105 mech just to save 22g when I’m 10kg overweight is even more ridiculous. 🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @guyd4067
    @guyd4067 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Manon is the best upgrade this channel has ever had. Priceless.

  • @mileslong9675
    @mileslong9675 Před 5 měsíci +11

    Regarding bottle cages, I bought a “right handed” bottle cage. I had to try not to laugh when the sales guy suggested it. But the price was reasonable so I bought it. Truth is, I love it. Glad I bought it. Great upgrade!

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 Před 4 měsíci

      Sounds like you bought a side-entry cage.

  • @Wheelsgump12
    @Wheelsgump12 Před 5 měsíci +18

    I enjoyed the back and forth with Alex and Manon, good way to start the morning with some laughter. I like the idea of name bike stickers. Although not an upgrade it is a way to help us remember each others names. I have several groups I ride with and don't see those same people for weeks or months so it is an easy way to jog the memory. I am good at remembering faces but names tend to allude my memory until I have seen them numerous times!

  • @russelvann8806
    @russelvann8806 Před 5 měsíci +7

    I have a titanium bike and have titanium bottle cages and have changed all the bolts to titanium. There was absolutely no need for this but provided I can still afford to eat, then why not if it makes me happier.

    • @janeblogs324
      @janeblogs324 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Weigh the bolts, 99% of the time their stainless but anodized

    • @kokonanana1
      @kokonanana1 Před 5 měsíci

      On my Ti bike, Ti seat post, Ti Quick release skewers

    • @Ronald-qj5nx
      @Ronald-qj5nx Před měsícem

      That is actually a good thing: accessories, bolts and frames all the same material so no galvanic corrosion from dissimilar materials

  • @declanfaughey8471
    @declanfaughey8471 Před 5 měsíci +97

    Having a pro cyclist sign your bike with a permanent marker, I have a famous pro cyclist's name signed on my top tube, and then I got it sealed so it would not wear off. It means so much to me.

    • @HighFell
      @HighFell Před 5 měsíci +2

      That’s a super cool upgrade 👍

    • @Timtimzi
      @Timtimzi Před 5 měsíci

      What did you seal it with

    • @thebelly925
      @thebelly925 Před 5 měsíci +3

      I have a signed bike, that the pro cyclist rode in the UCI World Championship Race…….

    • @warningaccountwashacked8606
      @warningaccountwashacked8606 Před 5 měsíci +3

      That’ll cost you 0.2 watts

    • @HighFell
      @HighFell Před 5 měsíci +1

      Let the air density drop 0.23% the aero gains will cover loss of the wattage

  • @davidanddeborahcohen5341
    @davidanddeborahcohen5341 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think name stickers are nice when you’re riding in a new group & getting to know people’s names.

  • @gerbryf
    @gerbryf Před 5 měsíci +3

    I get longer Ti bolts for crank arms so as to engage all of the threads, i feel the standard bolts are too short. As many have said, they don't rust either (but use anti seize/coppa slip with Ti).
    Name sticker has my blood group on it, which could help, and save time, if I needed medical attention, they also help to remember names in group rides!
    It might even help if your bike is stolen...
    Waxing chains should make them last ages, so why not get a good chain?
    No probs in custom painting, why not if it's time for a respray anyway? Bikes get tatty with use so a refresh is good. We used to get our steel frames repainted every few years. Oh, the fun trying to get fresh 753 stickers!
    All of these upgrades are pretty harmless anyway, if they help you enjoy your bike then go for it!

  • @nateandnaomiricher4443
    @nateandnaomiricher4443 Před 5 měsíci +3

    I get twice the wear out of a top tier chain than out of a mid tier chain. So I end up spending the same amount on chains over time by purchasing the top tier chain and having it last 2x as long. The advantage is less messing around changing chains.

    • @eagerbob
      @eagerbob Před 5 měsíci

      Plus it looks better. Something not to be overlooked. Who cares if it is faster or not, as long as it looks good and complements the look of your bike.

    • @nateandnaomiricher4443
      @nateandnaomiricher4443 Před 5 měsíci

      Agree 💯 %. And it really shines after cleaning.

  • @alexandermostowfi9884
    @alexandermostowfi9884 Před 5 měsíci +6

    Oh dear oh dear - I did the bike name sticker thing , Flandria do some really nice ones (felt less intimidating turning up to first duathlon too). Gold Titanium bolts too and carbon cages (Ali express) . I also have factory chameleon paint too (dk blue/purple - on my velobuild chinese frame you could choose any colour way) . i once tried a bling kmc gold chain, snapped it, so back to 105 again. Token ceramic crank bearing too (no idea if better but no squeaks/creaks). Di2 105 too which i dont “need” either. i still love my custom peoples groupset superbike though.

  • @stuartfreedman6854
    @stuartfreedman6854 Před 5 měsíci +4

    A few years ago, I added two $85, 16 gram bottle cages to my new TCR when I picked it up from the shop. I knew it was unnecessary and crazy. But I thought what the heck, I'm already into it for nearly $4000 anyway. The cages are the "cherry on top". Name stickers just give you a touch more pride of ownership. Better yet - give the bike it's own name. Mine is "Firewater". The one I regret is the $50 Knog bell. Looks great but it's half as loud as the $8 model. It's in my parts box now. All in all, "want" trumps "need" if you have the money. Bike money is fun money.

    • @David-qx8jm
      @David-qx8jm Před 5 měsíci

      So your blaming that on Trump ???

    • @stuartfreedman6854
      @stuartfreedman6854 Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@David-qx8jm LOL Trump is to blame for just about EVERYTHING!

    • @David-qx8jm
      @David-qx8jm Před 5 měsíci

      @@stuartfreedman6854 😆😅💥

  • @r_ramendump9681
    @r_ramendump9681 Před 2 měsíci +2

    Ngl good bolts on a cheaper bike is a good upgrade. Especially if you got some off brand bike, the low quality bolts on them tend to strip easily.

  • @TiberiusMoon
    @TiberiusMoon Před 5 měsíci +11

    What we know as road bikes are really just racing bikes, actual road bikes would be better suited to wider tyres, additional mounting points for extra storage and space for mudguards to be fitted.
    A high geared gravel bike is more of a road bike than a racing bike.

    • @bonbonflippers4298
      @bonbonflippers4298 Před 5 měsíci +1

      That's funny because you're describing my touring bike with mounts and bags all over it.

    • @BixbyConsequence
      @BixbyConsequence Před 5 měsíci

      @@bonbonflippers4298 A touring bike is the Swiss-Army-Knife of bicycles. If you don't have the inclination to maintain a stable of bespoke bicycle types, a touring bike gives you quite a big world of cycling opportunities.

  • @suhdud4646
    @suhdud4646 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My favorite go-to upgrade on all my bikes is a colour coordinated Ti 1mm pedal spacer between the pedal body and crank arm.
    I do enjoy a good pair of bar end plugs and stem cap if applicable.

  • @rogersimmons8788
    @rogersimmons8788 Před 5 měsíci +6

    I don't have a name sticker on my bike because when I go to my shed, it's the only one in there.

  • @sugashack74
    @sugashack74 Před 5 měsíci

    I did not know that name upgrade was a thing. Now i am totally obsessed looking for one next season. Thanks alot

  • @andyknapp212
    @andyknapp212 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Upgrading your bolts can be practical. Case in point, WB cage bolts. Many OE hex drive bolts are made from a soft Al alloy and don't have a deep head. They can be easily rounded by the hex drive tool, especially ones with a ball end. This situation is made worse when sugar/electrolytes in your water runs into the threads. Solution, use Ti bolts; even better, ones with Torx drive. In wet winter rides, road salt can also cause problems with bolts in other locations. Don't want to worry about drilling into a bolt and using an extractor on a CF frame! Once you decide this is a concern, color choice of replacements is a bonus.

  • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
    @MrLuigi-oi7gm Před 5 měsíci +2

    I think having a meaningful passage on your top tube is a lovely upgrade. I have a custom made sticker on my bike that says, "Full Effort is Full Victory." Can't tell you how many times I've looked down and read that during challenging moments on rides and had it get my head back on straight. 😊

    • @Captain_Ron618
      @Captain_Ron618 Před 4 měsíci

      I have a yellow sticker on my top tube that says "Cheat to win"

    • @MrLuigi-oi7gm
      @MrLuigi-oi7gm Před 4 měsíci

      @@Captain_Ron618 🤣🤣🤣

  • @mikeainsworth4504
    @mikeainsworth4504 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I bought my first roadie (since I was a teenager in the 1970s) in 2013. It is a second-hand Wilier Izoard and it sparked a way of life for me. 36,000km later and I am still riding it -albeit it is now a second/winter bike. It is now showing its age with quite a few chips in the paintwork, so I am looking to treat it to a new paint job next year. Will it make me go faster/further? Probably not, but it will make me happier.

    • @Florislaurens
      @Florislaurens Před 4 měsíci

      And when you're happier you'll probably go that little bit faster! 🤩 Enjoy!

  • @848evo4
    @848evo4 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I got a pair of real carbon fiber bottle cages off amazon for less than $20 shipped, no name brand, no name at all. they have been working great for the last year on my road bike.

  • @edromero7985
    @edromero7985 Před 5 měsíci

    Brandon RIGHT!!! I always think about upgrading bolts!!

  • @birdergirlrs
    @birdergirlrs Před 5 měsíci +2

    My city bike has a beautiful hand painted bell. Could I use a cheap one, yes. But I love looking down and seeing those tiny brush strokes.

  • @jonasvieth
    @jonasvieth Před 5 měsíci +2

    Guilty of changing bolts 😄 I know it’s a bit nerdy but hear me out. When you go for a short ride and a key effort like a KOM or TT you probably go without any bottlecages. So why stick with the cylinder head screws? I know it’s a very marginal gain but why not consider lighter and more aero rubber plugs? Don’t underestimate the psychological advantage of knowing you perfected just about everything in preparation. As a low budget solution just take some pan head screws with a shorter thread.

  • @kovie9162
    @kovie9162 Před 4 měsíci +1

    Upgrading a bolt not only makes sense but is necessary if the existing ones have snapped or are rusted and corroded or the heads have rounded, not to save weight or look cool. Although, if you're going to replace them then might as well get the lightest and nicest-looking ones you can afford, so long as they're also high quality. And the reason to get Ti fasteners is because they won't rust or corrode, not because they're super light or look cool (although they are light and do look cool). Just make sure to use the proper anti-seize especially if the parts they will be used on are themselves Ti.
    And, I'd think that the best bike upgrades are wheels, handlebars, stems, seat posts and saddles. Also replace your cables, housing, brake pads and chain when it's time. Common sense stuff.

  • @wcoin794
    @wcoin794 Před 5 měsíci

    I find a name sticker on the bike and the HELMET so helps people know each other when biking. It's a great way to help your bike friends actually know your name.

  • @user-ns4pz5ke6k
    @user-ns4pz5ke6k Před 5 měsíci +4

    I have name stickers on a couple of my bikes, but it is the bike's name...not mine. The bikes like it and think it's a good upgrade.

  • @238949
    @238949 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Love to see Manon and Alex "arguing" about these upgrades 🤗🤗 I personally think rather than your name stuck on your bike, a sticker with a In Case of Emergency (ICE) phone number is better, all our ladies in our Breeze group have one, Merry Christmas everyone xx

  • @gja2000
    @gja2000 Před 5 měsíci +8

    I'm on Team Manon for the custom paint. Had a mid 2000 road bike and during covid gave it a nice custom paint job. In some cases it can be expensive but its usually cheaper than getting a whole new bike just for a fresh look.

  • @markbooth6745
    @markbooth6745 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Custom paint job, probably the best for me. When you look down, and see what you riding. Its gives you a lift.😃👍🎄

  • @billkallas1762
    @billkallas1762 Před 5 měsíci +2

    I had my name painted (in cursive) on my top tube, under clear coat, when I had my race bike frame built. Least cost-effective option available.

  • @geoff5623
    @geoff5623 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I bought anodized stem spacers for my track bike to match my hubs. Still looking for a matching seat clamp. The wheelset was a functional upgrade, but matching other components to it is purely aesthetic. (The matching bottle cage was at least something I needed anyways, and cost hardly anything more than a basic cage).

  • @morlamweb
    @morlamweb Před 5 měsíci +1

    When I tried to adjust the front derailler on my bike after changing out the BB, I found that the adjustment screws had rusted out so severely that I couldn't turn them with any screwdriver. I rode over to the local hardware store to swap them out for stainless bolts. So changing bolts to stainless isn't a useless upgrade if you're swapping out carbon-steel bolts.

  • @chris1275cc
    @chris1275cc Před 5 měsíci +13

    Good quality Ti bolts (like the ones for MOTO racing) can be a great upgrade if used certain applications. I replace Shimano Crank pitch bolts with Ti Torx head bolts if they start to look rounded. If its corrosion resistance you want you will get more bang for your buck with 316 stainless steel. If its weight savings probably better to look elsewhere on the bike.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 5 měsíci

      Nylon bolts are even better and weigh significantly less than titanium. Just don't go above 1nm on your stem and seatpost.

    • @chris1275cc
      @chris1275cc Před 5 měsíci +1

      @@veganpotterthevegan LOL. Joking aside, I have used black plastic/nylon bolts to block up unused mounting points on my bikes. I'm not a weight weenie but if I can shave a gram or 3 it would be rude not to.

  • @MaxMustermann-nd4uy
    @MaxMustermann-nd4uy Před 5 měsíci +2

    Light bottle cages (I use elite vico carbon) and titanium/aluminium bolts are the cheapest ways to save weight (once you are in the Ultegra, carbon frame category).
    Custom paint does not give you performance but makes you like your bike more.
    Ceramic bearings have no advantage over steel bearings. Friction depends primarily on seals and the lubricant. Better seals = more friction, but muuuuch less friction if it keeps the bearings clean inside. Ceramic bearings are much less robust to shocks. Just use high quality 2rs bearings.

  • @DonutEndurance
    @DonutEndurance Před 5 měsíci

    I love upgrading bolts! Get that anodized blink for cheap and make you smile! Same with custom paint. Anything that makes you smile and want to ride YOUR bike is worth every penny. I have also had name stickers on my bike, but not in obvious locations. I do this so if someone tries to steal my bike at an event (which has happened), it is easy to lift up the bike, point to the sticker, and say "yeah, that's my bike." I guess the modern version is an AirTag or something, but this has work well enough.

  • @cruachan1191
    @cruachan1191 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I can see the point to name or custom stickers if they're also for frame protection (or to hide a little bit of paint damage from a stone chip etc) but it's not something I would personally do as an "upgrade".
    I do have alloy bottle cages on my bike, the only reason I'm thinking about changing them at some point is the paint rubbing off them and on to my bottles, although the bottles will probably end up mouldy before I replace the cages!

  • @jessegarcia8849
    @jessegarcia8849 Před 5 měsíci

    I did full kogel bearings on my bike and it was an awesome upgrade I didn’t go all out for that big over sized rear pulley. Saving watts makes a difference 👍👍👍👍

  • @lesliereissner4711
    @lesliereissner4711 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Although we saw them for a tantalizing second with the ceramic bearings section, over-sized pulley wheels are ridiculously expensive for the 2W you might save. On the other hand, custom paint is glorious as we live in a world where far too many bikes are matte black. I have two Italian steel bikes that were custom built and painted (and my name is actually painted on each one, no stickers) and riding them is looking rolling through the streets on a piece of art. Manon rules!

  • @BixbyConsequence
    @BixbyConsequence Před 5 měsíci +4

    I think a lot of people get hung up on the meaning of "upgrade". It can be for simple satisfaction. If/when I ever get around to repainting my frame (for fun), I'm going to also fit it with a black/gold chain. Just for bling. When that chain wears out I'll almost certainly return to the low-tier SRAM chains I customarily run.

    • @mlee6050
      @mlee6050 Před 4 měsíci

      I always stuck to bog standard sram red chain

  • @paulwickward6703
    @paulwickward6703 Před 5 měsíci +8

    hihgher end chains might actually be a good upgrade. For example supposedly XX1 chains typically last over than twice as long as a GX chain before wearing out so that helps offset the cost of the higher end chain. I have not actually tried an XX1 chain yet but I probably will once I wear out the current chain on my mtb.

    • @nateisright
      @nateisright Před 5 měsíci +1

      Truth. I have the same XX chain from 2019! Best chain I’ve ever had.

    • @___Bebo___
      @___Bebo___ Před 5 měsíci

      Speaking as someone who busts up chains 1-2x a year it's not a part you want forever on your bike. The side plates can snap randomly when aged and rusted, especially if you are doing something like waxing which only protects the rollers. Just replace your chain, they all shift and ride the same.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 5 měsíci

      @@___Bebo___ ah, more words of dumbdom

    • @___Bebo___
      @___Bebo___ Před 5 měsíci

      @@veganpotterthevegan if you had ever had the leg strength to break bike parts you would feel the same way. You may have had the lungs to be an unpaid amateur, but you never had the legs.

    • @___Bebo___
      @___Bebo___ Před 5 měsíci

      @@veganpotterthevegan Don't tell me you are one of those idiots that waxes his bike chain? You must ride like 20 miles a week if you do that, lul.

  • @douglasmarsh9482
    @douglasmarsh9482 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I still ride an 8 speed bike and had the older Non-internal gear cables and I bought new internal cable routing levers (Claris) because of the slight bit of aerodynamics.

  • @Gnomeology1
    @Gnomeology1 Před 5 měsíci

    I love name stickers, I put them on my helmets as well, LOVE IT!!! Oh and gold bottle cage bolts to match a gold headset spacer on all black bike.

  • @diehardbikes
    @diehardbikes Před 4 měsíci

    Bolts: i personally love Wolftooth Components as a company. I bought a red color kit for my bike. I think that this too, falls into "the way your bike looks" kind of thing with custom paint.

  • @jedisdad2265
    @jedisdad2265 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Not every bottle cage is created equal. Some do a horrible job at holding your bottle. This is especially true for Gravel riding.

  • @reiddryden9805
    @reiddryden9805 Před 5 měsíci

    Merry Christmas Jack and Man

  • @luukrutten1295
    @luukrutten1295 Před 5 měsíci +2

    Lightweight bottle cages are actually worse if you are racing. Especially in Dutch crits over bricked city streets and speedbumps, you want secure solid cages. The lighter cage is not going to win you the race anyway. But loosing the bottle might hurt your performance, or distract you from racing.

    • @HighFell
      @HighFell Před 5 měsíci

      Agree, weight of a full bottle on a flapping cage is no use at all and then bottle falls out! What a PITA 😂

  • @lifeat10mph7
    @lifeat10mph7 Před 5 měsíci

    I have a Black & Gold Salsa Marrakesh, I plan on upgrading to a complete Dana System gold anodized bolt kit.

  • @jameslee-pevenhull5087
    @jameslee-pevenhull5087 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Name stickers on frames. Include your blood group. "Jim Lee-Pevenhull B+".

  • @sugashack74
    @sugashack74 Před 5 měsíci

    I have upgraded all my bolts to Titanium oil slick bolts snd s few anodized blue bolts to match my Brooks C17 custom bolts. Cheap easy upgrade to make the bike look different.

  • @user-ou3cq1gk9m
    @user-ou3cq1gk9m Před 5 měsíci +1

    Upgrading bolts are a good idea if you like to service or adjust your bike, corroded crap bolt seize up rust can cause problems in a service.

  • @howardclegg7960
    @howardclegg7960 Před 5 měsíci

    Had my new bike custom painted and it looks mint. I've made sure the company that has done it doesn't repeat it on another

  • @carlyuen4360
    @carlyuen4360 Před 5 měsíci

    Useless Upgrades that I Want (for Christmas):
    1. Paintjob designed (and applied) by Manon. Not by Roger.
    2. Name Sticker saying "This is Mine"
    3. Carbon Bottlecage with matching bottle in LARGE (so i can carry more water and negate the weight saving)
    Joking aside, I completely agree with the uselessness of so-many so-called upgrades - I ride with the cheapest base model Time Xpresso 2 pedals, and they are already so light - I suspect all the higher tier models in the range offer little to no advantage, as the specifications for the X4, 8, 10 and 12 don't mention how much they weigh - only the Xpro 15 declares it is a few % lighter than mine, but cost a dozen times more!!!
    Merry Christmas to all at GCN, and I hope Santa delivers everything you think you need!!!

  • @magicknight8412
    @magicknight8412 Před 5 měsíci

    Lightweight bottle cages and frame name stickers here! I wanted my aero bike to get under 8kg hence the bottlecages and the name stickers look good to me!

  • @andreemurray7039
    @andreemurray7039 Před 5 měsíci

    I love my custom paint job the frame was old and tried so very happy

  • @johnsampson2544
    @johnsampson2544 Před 5 měsíci

    Custom paint on my year-old gravel bike is a "want" that is waiting on the list. I'm still buying the "need" items, like a garmin computer/radar set and cold weather gear (so that I can ride even more).

  • @smithpauld1501
    @smithpauld1501 Před 5 měsíci

    I replaced a sweat-rusted head cap bolt with titanium. Since I could barely get the Allen key into the old one for the rust, I felt much happier. I’ve never been exposed to the English winter, so there were times when only thing that got wet was that one bolt.

  • @two-eyedRoy
    @two-eyedRoy Před 5 měsíci

    I went with Ti bolts. Well some. In building up Phil Jr from bits of Phil Snr (and other bikes) the black coating on the steel cap heads had cracked up enough that the heads went full rusted inside of 3 months (Yay humid coastal livings!) so had a gander for a less corrodable option. I've some sorry experiences with stainless steel screws and aluminium threads (more so when unscrewing), so gave Ti a shot. A mob in QLD makes them for the Construction, Aeronautics, Automotive industries, (M5 & M6s) for

  • @GeirEivindMork
    @GeirEivindMork Před 3 měsíci +1

    My bike was misplaced once. I live in a low crime neighborhood so it was found and taken in, but since I had nothing to identify me as the owner on it they tired finding me by calling the distributor but since it was used they wouldn't have found me anyways. So name sticker would have saved me a lot of trouble.

  • @nickkambitis5340
    @nickkambitis5340 Před 5 měsíci

    If your bike’s Titanium then titanium bolts are a great upgrade. Along with Silica’s titanium bottle cages.

  • @RobinForder
    @RobinForder Před 4 měsíci

    Flandria name decals: thief deterrent and double locking resolver at work.
    If a bolt falls out (I am looking at my old bike shop) I have been known to replace it with a titanium bolt.

  • @fr0zenmilk
    @fr0zenmilk Před 5 měsíci

    Best bottle cages...Supacaz aluminum bottle cages. 18 grams, under US$30, look great, and they actually work.

  • @overcookit1433
    @overcookit1433 Před 3 měsíci

    A custom paint is a really great upgrade - provided you do a extraordinary magificient awesome job like Manon on her bike. My bike is a Giant Cadex CFR from the late 90’s converted to a throughout oldschool TT bike with a really low base bar and right extension, on the left side I got only the arm rest (I got the idea when watching the ITT Championships 2013 in Florence/Italy on CZcams, and the bike of Gustav Larsson had this setup with only one extension), the front deraillleur is used with a down tube shifter made from carbon. It already has got an awesome cherry red metallic, just the same colour as red anodized alloy. Therefore I put on every screw and bolt red anodized which is possible and reasonable - the rear derailleur fixing bolt, the chainring bolts, and also the bolts for the brake shoe holder and the brake cable on the brakes, the lens head screws which fix the brake arms on a Oval Concepts TT front wheel brake, and not to forget the pulley wheel srews, which are also hollow drilled to achieve the best possible weight saving, Titanium is far to much for this, and they are just a small fraction lighter than the original steel ones, especially as the oroginal bolts oft he Record 10speed rear derailleur are already hollow drilled. As I still use Campagnolo Carbon square taper cranks, I spent a lot of time to find a pair of those magnificient SRP crank bolts with hexagon head, anodized in red. I even have red anodized titanium bolts for the stem, which seem to be really rare. I got mine from EasyElox years ago, meanwhile they have a minimum order sum of 100 €, and they only offer B2B selling. It just looks great when almost every bolt has the same colour as your bike. About 18 years ago, I even had red anodized Tune Bigfoot square taper cranks, but they turned out tob e rather weak - when I switched to Campagnolo Record alloy cranks, it felt like someone had put a small motor on my bike.
    Concerning ceramic bearings, there was an interview with someone on GCN month ago, who said that as those ceramic bearings are often hybrid bearings (ceramic balls running on a steel surface), they wear out faster due to the much harder material of the balls.
    My favourite upgrades are fairings on my chainrings made as a full aero cover from 0.75mm thick plastic, which I paint semi gloss black with Tamiya spray colour (TS 29). I know it will enhance the aerodynamics by just a friction (if any), but together with the Profile Razor Carbon seatpost the bike looks already fast when standing still.
    For me, the most overrated „upgrade“ is such an Oversized pulley wheel system, I suppose even my chainring fairings offer a higher advantage than that, at least for me, as I tend to use really low cadences, just like Bert Grabsch did.
    As my bike is so far optimized, I use both: top tier chains (KMC X11 SL) AND top-segment tube-type tyres (now the Goodyear Eagle F1 SuperSport), the tyres in combination with the fastest inner tubes (Vredestein latex).

  • @zmuzzy101
    @zmuzzy101 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Go fidlock for bottle cages imho expensive but at least functional

  • @davidadamus177
    @davidadamus177 Před 5 měsíci

    Hmm so far I've upgraded to lighter bottle cages, and have considered upgrading my bolts to some cool looking light titanium ones.. 2 for 2! Guess I'm with you on this one Alex lol.

  • @mathewrose2951
    @mathewrose2951 Před 5 měsíci

    I went with a Celeste colored KMC DLC chain on my Bianchi at 120 pounds because of the color. Literally burned about 80 pounds over a basic Dura-Ace so that the chain could match the frame and the Celeste cork bar tape from Cinelli.

  • @Kimberlietriracer25
    @Kimberlietriracer25 Před 5 měsíci

    As someone who messes around with changing stuff on my bikes a lot, high-end bolts are key because of wear. Also, I have color changing paint sitting out in my garage waiting for the weather to warm up so I can strip the used frame I just bought to rebuild.
    A name on my Tribike is nessesary when I'm running down a row, still pumped from my swim that I didn't drown on, trying to find my bike out of bikes that looks like mine ...hense custom paint would be nice as well, I can go, " oh look! It has my name on it! Let'sgo do a century plus ride Ms. Huffle Puff! Let's do this!"

  • @pembrokeshiredan
    @pembrokeshiredan Před 5 měsíci +7

    I always stick with aluminium bottle cages. The weight penalty is negligible (who acres if they're 15g or 1000g? They hold at least 600g of water!) and they're the only type of cage that can be adjusted to grip the bottle just by giving them a little squeeze.

    • @veganpotterthevegan
      @veganpotterthevegan Před 5 měsíci +1

      Ti and stainless cages can be bent to size a lot more than aluminum which will definitely fatigue and fail

  • @KeithCollyer
    @KeithCollyer Před 5 měsíci

    I have a carbon bottle cage on my gravel bike simply because it looks really good. Road bike has a standard plastic cage.

  • @AnonymousAndy2
    @AnonymousAndy2 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I like name stickers. Cheap & I like having the union jack on my bike. Bling chains, more money than sense 😂.

  • @ThomasNing
    @ThomasNing Před 5 měsíci

    idk about the carbon super lightweight bottle cages. But I did get a cheap (

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 Před 5 měsíci +1

      Any bottle cage weighing less than 10 g is too light to be realistically durable, I've already seen a few cracked ones, one of which is an Alpitude. Sub-20 g bottle cages are still OK for the most part.

  • @walterbostwick4618
    @walterbostwick4618 Před 4 měsíci

    I've done a few rides with lots (hundreds) of riders, like the look and ID factor of name stickers.

  • @WhatTheFlipOfficial
    @WhatTheFlipOfficial Před 5 měsíci

    Ti bolts are actually one of the most cost effective ways of weight reduction.
    It goes saddle, kmc SL chain, bolts, leverless thru axles, direct mount hanger, tires, wheelset. (Ranking of tires depends on budget and existing quality of tires)
    Cheap carbon 18-20g bottle cages for ~$40 a pair fits somewhere in there as well if your bike came with heavy ones.
    I'm good with cheap forged china cassettes that weighs the same as dura-ace ones for $50, so that actually goes high on the list at about $50 for ~120g saved (over 105) or ~80g saved (over ultegra).
    Flipped and upgraded 100+ bikes in the past 2 years, so yeah.

  • @thexardas8395
    @thexardas8395 Před 4 měsíci

    Color bolts, custom paint fancy bottle cages . People do it to make bikes looks pretty. It is aesthetic upgrade not technical. I do change all my bottle cage bolts to match color of the frame or components. it cost $5 for 4 bolts. make me smile and to ride more. Totally worth it.

  • @mommamooney
    @mommamooney Před 5 měsíci +1

    I recently went through most of these debates, purchasing my first bike. I went for the best base (frame) the rest wasn’t as important

  • @davethedogdude
    @davethedogdude Před 5 měsíci

    In a hypothetical scenario (lol), Force chains last longer than Rival chains, as they are more durable as long as you maintain them equally. Bling Oilslick RED chains last as long as the Force ones and give extra incentive to spend time to wax and keep them pristine so you don't have to fork over the $$ to replace, which makes them last even longer, at least when compared to Force or Rival chains where you have less incentive to spend the time maintaining them as well. Ultimately, they all cost the same as you burn through 3 Rival chains or 2 Force chains vs. one Bling RED chain. But the bling RED chain looks pristine and awesome all the time where the Rival and Force chains just tend to look like dirty chains. The rest of the bike also magically stays cleaner as well, so it is possible that money is also saved elsewhere over time.

  • @paulcollingridge8387
    @paulcollingridge8387 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Nice, powerful lights every time for those dark, dark roads in the Dales..... cheap lights are like throwing money ahead and riding by braille

  • @jvogel431
    @jvogel431 Před 5 měsíci

    I love my “upgraded” Ti bolts-on all of my bikes. And the carbon bottle cages and the lovely carbon rail saddle. Custom paint is on the horizon. Ceramic bearings are silly.

  • @kryghyzho7868
    @kryghyzho7868 Před 5 měsíci +6

    You can also look at other things than just performance. Custom paint is something you can really enjoy, which is worth a lot too. Similarly, I saw a video of a pro mechanic who changed all relevant bolts to T25, which sound super convenient to me.

  • @rfons07
    @rfons07 Před 4 měsíci

    I needed bottle cage bolts for a titanium frame bicycle, so I got titanium bolts for a few dollars on eBay vs. the same amount at my local bike shop for steel bolts. My local shop does not carry titanium bolts.

  • @ThePeter123a
    @ThePeter123a Před 5 měsíci

    Lightweight bottle cages can be cheap, last year I ordered 2 16gr bottle cages for 29€ a pair. So far, I have had problems with even lighter bottle cages. I also have Ceramic bearings in used look titanium pedal for 130 €. I used to order aluminum bottle cage screws to get over the free limit when ordering a webshop. Screw tuning is all the more worthwhile the larger the diameter in the square of the screw and longer the screw is.

  • @arcboutant
    @arcboutant Před 5 měsíci

    He’s right about upgrading bolts etc. looking for lightness,strength and durability by not corroding .

  • @ryancraig2795
    @ryancraig2795 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I'm relatively new to the cycling world, but I've seen this play out with the motorcycling community. Bolt kits which will drop 250 grams from a 190 kg bike, same with other lightweight parts. Might (maybe) make a difference if you're a pro level rider, but otherwise it's just bling. And there's nothing wrong with bling for bling's sake, but let's not fool ourselves that it has anything to do with performance.

  • @cokebottles6919
    @cokebottles6919 Před 5 měsíci

    I hardly ever race, but I love having a beautiful bike. I have cheap carbon bottle cages (like $12 each) because they look good and work well, I have matching bottles, I also had a gold chain because it looked good and was only $5 more. I wouldn't spend hundreds for cosmetics, but a few bucks here and there can go a long way and make you more excited to ride. No one cares except for me and maybe a few other cyclists, but I like it and it looks like a decoration in my home when I'm not on it. Nothing wrong with taking pride in your hobbies.

  • @davlddemarest2626
    @davlddemarest2626 Před 5 měsíci

    First off, really enjoy your show..I feel personalization, makes your bike your own.....

  • @screwb1882
    @screwb1882 Před 5 měsíci +1

    I kind of want titanium bolts. Not for the weight reduction but for the corrosion resistance. I ride all winter and the rust on the inside of steel bolts annoys me.

  • @GregLanz
    @GregLanz Před 5 měsíci

    I have a number of Ali carbon bottle cages that cost less than a plastic cage and has never lost a bottle. They look great, work incredibly, are light, are cheap, and I've had several for over a decade and never had a failure. Completely worth while

  • @embraceuncertainty7127
    @embraceuncertainty7127 Před 5 měsíci +1

    My useless but cool bling bits include titanium headset spacers. Mixed shiny and matt finishes are boss

    • @yonglingng5640
      @yonglingng5640 Před 5 měsíci

      At least this is something different, I don't think I've seen one before.

  • @ScottyCycles
    @ScottyCycles Před 5 měsíci

    Name stickers are great on the bike and helmet. VeloInk does custom.

  • @midhc5072
    @midhc5072 Před 5 měsíci +1

    Custom paint worthwhile upgrade? It’s a no from me. My Reacto is still in the Lampre colours from the day I bought it which suits me, but not many others when it comes to sell.

  • @TheRamblingShepherd
    @TheRamblingShepherd Před měsícem

    The biggest appeal I see in upgraded bolts and ceramic bearings is maintenance. I hate rust on my bike, so I always swap my bolts for stainless steel.
    Ceramic bearings are a bit of a price bump from there. But one I wouldn't mind investing in where useful.

  • @apuldram
    @apuldram Před 5 měsíci +1

    Manon wants new shorts and tops, not wheels? How girlie 😂. Would agree on group sets and other mechanical things, but wheels are somewhat critical…

  • @dafuq2445
    @dafuq2445 Před 5 měsíci

    i really considering getting ti stem bolt set since mine kinda rusted already

  • @user-rg5fp7ok3t
    @user-rg5fp7ok3t Před 5 měsíci

    custom paint - check, name stickers - check, upgrade bolts - check, carbon bottle cages - check, ceramic bearings - already fitted in the top of the range parts so yep, check. Okay so i'm a bit of a weight weenie. So i've also spent out on carbon back plate for the RD, carbon top cap, daft 140g saddle, did you know changing steel rotor bolts for Ti saves 3g per wheel? This extends to my camping gear as well, i probably need treatment!