Virtual Pinball: How to install a gear motor!
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- čas přidán 5. 04. 2023
- Episode#32 Custom Virtual Pinball Cabinet Build
In this video I will show you how to install a realgear motor into your virtual pinball cabinet using a Sainsmart USB 8 channel relay board so you can get all of your VPX tables sounding great! As usual, this video will have a ton of tips and tricks to get your custom virtual pinball looking and working absolutely amazing! This stuff seems crazy hard but is actually pretty simple once you have a walkthrough like this. Fear not! I got you!
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Congrats on getting to 20K subscribers! Well done! 🥳🥳🥳
Thank you so much 😀. It's been a lot of work but well worth it. Cheers!
The rubbers being gone will really improve the sound. great idea thank you for another great video
Yeah with the motor mounted straight to the cabinet without the rubber mounts adds a lot of noise for sure. Thanks for the watch!
amazing, again - I've learned so much from your videos - know that you are highly valued and produce great content. thank you so much for your selfless contributions to this hobby space!!!
Thanks dude, I appreciate your kind words! I'm just happy to help! If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the watch and the support for the channel! Cheers!
Wow, everything is looking amazing!
Thanks! Yeah it just keeps getting better and better. Thanks for your support!
Dude your cab has more goodies in it than just about anything I’ve seen. Just a beautiful machine. Well done 👍🏻
Thanks! Yeah, lot's of goodies and lot's more to come too! Thanks for the watch!
Thanks Emil...I've been wondering how the wiper motors sound!
No worries! Yeah they sound awesome and feel really authentic. Thanks for the watch!
You do great work. Thank you for all of these videos!
Thanks Dan! They are a lot of work but I'm glad people are finding them and they're helping people out. Cheers!
Very cool gear setup. Thanks for explaining the diode as well. Might save someone from cooking circuits. Perhaps a future video on mods such as matrix shapes, color adjustments, sounds or music to VPX?
Thanks Scott! Yeah lots of cool things to still do for an in depth series on diy vpins. I have a bunch already made and some still to do. I just messed around with colorizing roms so that will be soon. Lots to do and not enough time ya know? Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench You have certainly picked some great topics so far. I have my table fully working now and it is such a blast. I do need to tweak everything though (undercab LEDS not working quite right, various tables in wrong orientation, sound level all over the place). Your videos help inspire us to jump in and tackle it. Thanks again.
Pinvol will solve all of your sound issues, I just set up mine and it now takes seconds to dial in your audio and ssf with a new table install. Editing this video as we speak. Cheers!
Love this video. I have a Sainsmart I got 2 years ago to add some solenoids and a gear motor or shaker motor but been afraid it was going to be too difficult for a newbie like me to do. This video really helps my friend. Keep em coming:)
Awesome Bill! Glad I could help you feel better about tackling this. It's pretty easy especially with this video at your disposal. Good luck!
Thanks again. Have you done a video on how to wire up solenoids or contactors? I'd love to see that type of video.
No not yet but it would be pretty much the same except with a solenoid. There are some things to add though like dealing with having solenoids on when flipper buttons are on so they don't overheat and a few other things. To be honest, my ssf is so good...I might not add solenoids.
Thats awesome. Nice install.
Thanks Chris! It was a fun and easy install! Cheers!
You sir, are a beast.
Thanks bud! I aims to please....cheers!
Great job
Thanks! I aims to please.
What a great resource this series is. Excellent work Emil!
Thanks dude! You thinking of building a vpin? Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Yeah I was researching pretty seriously, it is amazing what the community has come up with. Got distracted with other projects.
It's an amazing project to build and is right up your alley. One of these days, I need to see your 1/2 scale rc car!
@@wayofthewrench Any time!
Thank you for the video
You're welcome Daniel! Cheers!
So easy... Keep 'em comin' sir!
You got it! DIY shaker motor coming up next! Thanks for the watch!
Outra aula incrível!
Glad you liked the video, cheers!
Thats dope my man... dannnng...
Thanks dude!
I'm gearing up do a VP cab. I have a MAME machine I want to finish up first, but then it's go time! It's something I have been wanting to do and I have been inspired by your videos. I found a gutted Gottlieb, circa 60's, for $275. Unfortunately that means I have to fit the playfield into it instead of the other way around, however that saves me time and money on building it! I went overboard on the computer and playfield monitor though. Mainly I wanted to fill the space as best I could and felt that I needed a computer that could keep up. The Monitor is an INNOCN Ultrawide Monitor 40". The computer I built has an AMD Ryzen 7 sitting on a MSI B550-A PRO ProSeries Motherboard with 64 GB DDR4 ram and a PowerColor Red Dragon AMD Radeon™ RX 6800 XT Gaming Graphics Card. Again Overboard... I will have to get your email so I can send some photos once I start!
Wow! That's quite the pc.....my test build was just an i3....lol. Sounds like you got a good plan. I'm interested to see how your ultrawide goes cause the dimensions will be off a bit. Still will probably look great! Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench Yeah, I know it's way overboard, but I wanted to make sure I could hit the 144Khz refresh rate. Well that and I'm probably compensating for something... As far as the playfield monitor, I looked around but I couldn't really find anything sized right. The inside dimensions are about 20.5"W x 37"L. The Innocn just about fills the space lengthwise. However, it's 16.5" tall so there will be a gap on the sides. I'm thinking about doing an infinity mirror as a bezel using the RGB LEDs. I think it might fit the space theme I have planned for the side art. Unless you're talking about the video on the screen, Yeah, I worry about that too, If anything I can always swap the PC with my desktop and get a 32" to put in it. Thanks for doing videos on this stuff!
144Hz will be amazing at 4k! Your infinity mirror bezel would be cool!
@@wayofthewrench Well it's not 4k per se . 4k is 3840 x 2160p. Ultrawide Monitors have a resolution of 3440 x 1440p (at least the ones I'm familiar with), so the pixels per square inch isn't the same. I got to tell you though, making is the easy part it's getting the software working that I struggle with. Right now, I'm struggling with getting a stable 15KHz image on my CRT with GroovyMAME after a reboot.
Did ya finish your vpin and mame cabinet? I'd love to see some pics, DM me on my Instagram.
Another great video. Only thing I'd question is wrapping that snubber diode up in black tape like that. It is harder to get at and test if you suspect it is blown.
Thanks dude! Nah it's not buried, you can test the ends still and it would take literally a minute to take it off/test. Thanks for the watch.
Fantastic, are you thinking of adding solenoids in the future?
Not any time soon as I love my SSF set up but I will make a video on them in the future. Cheers!
Awesome! I’ve got some beacons that I’m gonna wire up soon. I assume the process is basically the same?
A few more questions:
How do you know when/if you need a diode?
Is it ok to just use 10A fuses for all the toys since the relays support 10A?
Thanks again for doing these - awesome videos!!!
Yeah pretty much the same, just hook up another relay from the sainsmart and change your config file. The diodes are for anything that will cause power spikes after it is shut off (motors, solenoids, knockers, etc). Depends on what you're trying to protect as you add a 1.5 times the amperage of the part you're adding usually. Thanks for the watch!
Thanks for the video, very instructive as always. But, why did you choose that horrible motor? I went for two small and light Black & Decker electric screwdriver motors wired electrically in serial mode and I can set up the "sound" of the gears by the Pinscape connecting them to a PWM output.
Thanks. I used it because it was free, used, and Toyota which means it will be noisier and last forever. The motor had two speeds which helped pick the better gear noise too. Also the windshield motors are geared down so lot's of gear noise. Yeah my kl25z board doesn't have pinscape as its a Virtuapin Controller on it...so no PWM but that is cool to have alter your gear motors how you like it. In the next video I add a PWM controller board to alter the shaker motor so that would also be an option too if someone didn't like their gear motor speed/noise. Thanks for the watch!
Thanks Emil for another great video! One question though. I have a few P1000A diodes on hand. Do you know if these are ok for the gear motor application? Thanks.
If they are not what I specified in the video for what I used, then you would have to look into the data sheets online to see. Most likely they will work but do your research to be safe or get the ones I used. Thanks for the watch!
Awesome. Great video as always! -- It seems like there is some modifications to DOF install (shortcuts in the right folders) when you go to 64bit. I haven't done DOF yet, but I think there was a mention of that in Marty's video from Game Club Central. Have you done the upgrade yet?
As far as I know dof should be all the same but I haven't done the 64 update yet.....too many people having issues still. I'll just wait for the next stable update. The update to 64 should be great for performance though and exciting to see more new tables that make use of it. Thanks for the watch.
I've been learning a lot from your videos. I just installed a Sainsmart board to activate four solinoids. Do you know what options I should select in ConfigTools for my four solenoids?
That's great, glad I was able to help you out! There should be options like flippers or pop bumpers, just try them and see what you like. Thanks for the watch!
You mentioned that you can use space connectors to connect a diode. I don’t have any soldering skills. How reliable will this technique be and do you recommend it? (Since i don’t think I’m ready to tackle soldering). Are there any specific spade connectors on Amazon that you think would be good alternatives? Thank you.
Yes you can use spade connectors but I would highly recommend learning how to solder. Just practice a bit on some scrap wires.
Hey man, I'm curious. When it comes to using inline fuses, is there such thing as using too big of a fuse? Such as, If I'm not sure what amp fuse to go with, could I just use 10 amp inline fuse for everything? Thanks
Yes, if you put too big a fuse than it will never pop if something is wrong.....it will literally let your wires melt/parts blow. I used 10 as it seems like most devices needed that. You usually take what the amperage is for the device and add a bit of a safety buffer like an 8 amp device would get a 10 amp fuse. Otherwise the fuse may pop when it first starts because the current spikes a bit on start up but then settles down. Thanks for the watch!
I downloaded everything to do with dof. I'm trying to get a gear motor working with the same table but do I still need a cabinet file? I really can't get it working with the gear motor with the same relay board
Did you follow my DOF videos exactly? I would start with some led lights to ensure DOF is working properly and then add toys. Off of the top of my head, I know you need a cabinet.xml file for the lights but not sure if you need it for just a gear motor. DOF is really picky with naming conventions and placement of folders/files so go through the video again step by step. Also if you have upgraded to newer vpx or 64bit, you may be missing the dof files in those folders. Good luck!
Tables: Many of my current tables are on my vpin because I saw them, on your vpin, during many of your videos. I have not been able find working vpx or FP versions. One example is the Masters of the Universe table. Currently I'm only running vpx and FP. Would it be possible for you to list your current tables and the download source or link? If not, can you give me the link for Masters of the Universe download? Thanks.
All of my tables are from vpforums or vpuniverse. However, I just looked for Masters of the Universe for you and I can't find it. Weird, maybe it got pulled for some reason. I think the Future Pinball Terry Red is there though. You could try some other sites like Pinball Nirvana too.
Hoping you can help. So I followed everything as far as where to connect the wires. I got to the testing phase and when I select Relay 1 where I have my gear motor plugged, it worked! Then I turned off, then it back on and it only worked for a second and then the gear motor stopped working. It wouldn’t turn back on so then I plugged the gear motor directly into the 12V, bypassing the Sainsboard, and the gear motor was working again so I’m good there. So then I go back to plug in the gear motor into the Sainsboard and it’s not working still. Any thoughts why it work the first time and not after? I tried moving the gear motor to other relays but it’s like the Sainsboard doesn’t recognize it anymore.
When I click on each relay, I do hear the clicks to indicate they are working but the gear motor still won’t respond.
Hrmmm maybe check connections for polarity and loose/bad connections. What is the input voltage to the sainsmart board? Try to operate the motor with the usb relay manager to test and not dof.
@@wayofthewrench Ok. Thanks. I’ll redo the wiring and see if it’s that. Voltage going to it is currently measured at 12.07. If all else fails, I can try another board since I know the motor is working. And I haven’t tried through DOF yet since the Sainsboard stopped responding to the motor.
I just thought of something. Check the direction of the diode.
reach out to me if you need custom cabinet artwork done bro. would love to see you mount up some of my art on your cab. in a later video
That would be cool. Do you have a website or some examples of your artwork I could see? I am thinking about building another once I upgrade the current build. Thanks for the watch.
Первый! 😂
LOL. Cool! Thanks for the watch!
never use a bigus mod, honestly 50% of the time, he breaks the tables he mods, and doesnt know it. and you will only find out when you play the table far enough and get to certain missions. You'll get an error and or a crash. very frustrating. and you never know which of his tables does and doesnt. unless you r a pro at all those tables. so be smart and avoid what we call bogus modes. lol
Hrmm, I haven't played enough of these tables to experience that but I'll keep my eyes open. Thanks for the tip. Cheers!