How to mount your virtual pinball playfield monitor.
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2022
- Episode#16 Custom Virtual Pinball Cabinet Build
In this video I will be teaching you how to install your playfield monitor so you can swing it up and out the way so you can work on it and if you need even more room, you can pull the entire monitor out as well. This can be a tricky part of the build so hopefully this can help a bunch of people out there. Sooo much pinball cabinet goodness for any inspiring cabinet builders out there.
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00:23 Figuring out the location/angle of the playfield monitor
01:49 The playfield monitor holder design
03:25 Checking the monitor for issues or things that need access
04:17 Correct orientation of the monitor in the cabinet
04:40 Checking the board/tv flatness and measuring the overall height
05:20 Laying out the position of monitor/holder in cabinet
07:27 Checking if buttons or plunger will hit monitor
08:50 Making cutouts for the playfield holder to not hit buttons/plunger
10:32 Making the stop blocks and pivot blocks
12:30 Installing front stop blocks
13:50 Positioning the back of the playfield monitor
14:12 Figuring out the pivot point for the monitor
15:34 Making the pivot bar
16:17 Making the rear cut outs for the rear pivot blocks
18:11 Making the pivot blocks
19:30 Installing the pivot bar accurately
22:50 Installing the rear pivot blocks
24:28 Making/installing tapered guide blocks to remove play in board
26:54 How to transfer the VESA hole locations to the board
29:32 Installing the monitor
31:33 Designing/making the stay to hold up the playfield monitor
35:13 The final result!
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Serious kudos to you for these very professionally made videos and the really clear way you present the topics. You deserve a much larger audience than you currently have.
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Thank you very much David, I really appreciate your kind words. I try very hard to make the best videos I can for my viewers but it is insanely hard to get noticed in a sea of CZcams videos out there. If there is a way to get my channel noticed by a ton of people that would be amazing. Until then, I'll just keep trying to make some seriously good content and hopefully it'll happen someday. Thanks for the watch and trying to motivate viewers to share out my channel on their social media! Cheers!
Your attention to detail is insane! You spend a ton of extra time on things that will never be seen, but you’ll know it’s not right.
Top craftsmanship!
Subscribing now. Thanks for the vpin video series.
Thanks Donald! I do try hard to make videos that actually teach people how to do this stuff in a very clear manner that's memorable so it's always nice to hear that from viewers. Thank you very much for the subscribe and if you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks Donald!
Where were you 2 years ago when i tried and failed to build a vpin cabinet. Awesome work btw.
Lol, sorry to hear that. Did you make another one that worked? It's too cool a hobby to not finish a good one. Cheers!
Congrats on hitting 10K subscribers!! Woot woot!! It's well-deserved recognition of your hard work and expertise!
Thanks Catherine! Now I just have to catch that wave you're on! We should put each other's channel on our youtube channels page on our home page to spread the word!
I've installed several monitors in cabinets I've built over the years. Every time it is the hardest part of the build. I absolutely love the way you did yours. I use that paper trick on other things I don't know why I never thought of that for mounting the tv. Thanks for the video I got a lot from it.
Yeah it's a bit tricky, especially when you want it perfect. There's a bunch of ways to mount the monitor but this seemed simple and sturdy. I should try another method next time. Cheers!
this is so well done, a masterclass on building a cabinet with precision and care. thanks for taking the time to video and edit all of this! much appreciated
Thank you for your kind words Keith! I try very hard to make the best content I can for you guys so it's always nice to hear back from you guys. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the support for the channel! Cheers!
I want to thank you for teaching me the word "skookum" (the BC in my handle is coincidental, I've never visited your lovely territory). Good description for this build all around.
Lol...I like using skookum, nobody uses it anymore. Where are you from? Yeah B.C., Canada is a beautiful place......don't tell anyone though or word will spread. Glad you liked the video, lot's more to watch on the vpin! Cheers!
This is a really stirdy yet simple sollution. Thank you for this, definitly gonna use it in my own build. Keep up the vids, looking forward to the final result.
Thanks Dirk! Yeah it's really solid and provides great access as well as complete removal if needed. Yeah I'm looking forward to playing on it too! Just ordered my vinyl today! Cheers!
These videos are great. I'm impressed with how much every step is thought through. I'll definitely be following your lead.
Thanks Bruh! Yeah I tend to overthink the process and make sure it will work but sometimes there are still issues you come across when you're doing custom work like this. I just like to share that process and teach people how I went through it and how they can do the same techniques on their custom builds. I feel that is my niche on CZcams. Thanks for the watch!
This series has come about at exactly the right time, been comtemplating and researching to make a VPin machine for over a decade after deciding against trying to design and build a real one for almost 15 years.
I am really hanging for the lockbar episode as that is one part that has stumped me for a bit. Designing the cabinet and everything else is fine but that last finishing part if you are going to buy a real one, the cabinet has to be built to that dimension and while I have a welder i'm not all that decent on it.
Also love the fact you are using all hand tools and "general joe" accessible parts for the build and so far, looking great. Has me excited to give this a crack with my kids
You might as well start your vpin cabinet because after you see my 3 videos on diy lockdown bars, you're gonna be....."I can totally do that!" For you because you're a welder I recommend you watch all 3 videos but your going to be doing video 1 and video 3 as you are going to be making the welded stainless steel version for sure. Super happy I could make a 15 year old dream of making a vpin a reality for ya Bruh! Your kids are gonna love it!
Awesome! Very clever your trick with the cardboard and the TV 😝
Yeah it worked really well! Got that one from mjrnet and it was pretty easy to do. Thanks for the watch!
Beautiful work man.
Thanks Bruh!
Fantastic and mega helpful videos. I am building our VPinball (43" + original wide body size, so i can just buy the lockdown bar) with you and always can't wait for you to release the next episode. Can you already reveal how you will do the finish for the wood? (stain? varnish? artwork foil?) Many greetings from Germany
Awesome, glad these videos are helping you with your build! Yes I will be painting it and putting on Tales of the Arabian Night vinyl. I just ordered it Yesterday. I will need to do a complete tear down to do this. Thanks for the watch!
Really enjoy your content.
So many good ideas that are well presented.
Thanks Joel! I can't take all of the credit as the vpin bible (mjrnet.org) is a huge resource for this hobby, I'm just trying to show my take on building one which will hopefully be easy for people to learn/follow along. You building one? Thanks for the watch Joel!
Thank you again. Love this series. Really want to take up woodworking lol.
No worries. DO IT! Just start slow and buy a tool or two and start Ray. You got this!
Thats awesome. Thanks a lot for sharing :)
No worries Patrick, glad you liked the video. Lots more where that came from. Cheers!
Great video! Plywood does not split though. Something to note. I used the baller installer you showed me...it changed my life....thank you! - Nate
Thanks Nate! Yeah it doesn't split per say but can still split or tear out on the top ply so you have to watch that. Yeah Baller Installer is game changing for making it easier for people. Enjoy the rest of the series!
Just can't wait for another episode.
"Pinball! Pinball! Pinball!" screams the crowd! LOL, glad your stoked to see the next video! Diy lockdown bar videos are coming up next! Thanks for your support!
Love watching this project come together. I am very much looking forward to seeing the electronics go in.
Thanks Rob! Yeah I'm getting closer. If you follow me on Instagram you can see my updates before the videos. Cheers!
Suburb video once again ! Only problem you are scaring me on the skill involved to get me to build one myself! When you next in Croydon UK?
Thanks Andy! Nah, I'm showing you in great detail what you need to do, you're golden! I won't be in the UK for a looong time, plus I usually just touchdown at the airport and then I'm off to Slovakia. I think there is a fairly large vpin community in the UK though as far as I know. You got this dude!
Great video Emil! I did a similar hinge using conduit and straps. appreciate your content!
Thanks Jamie! Yeah it's a great method to mount a hinged monitor for quick access. There are a bunch of ways to do it, maybe I'll try another way with my next build. Thanks for the watch Jamie!
Great video, lots of details, looking forward to seeing your LED matrix video.
Thanks Scott, yeah all of the good stuff is coming up...lock down bars, decasing pc, tempered glass, kl25z buttons/plunger, ssf, dof, led strips, paint, and vinyl. Sooo good! Thanks for the watch!
GREAT STUFF
Thanks Douglas! Lot's more to go too! Enjoy the series!
Another quality video pal.
Thanks Bruh!
I like watching you do the actual cuts and screws. It is very meticulous and precise. I learned something by watching. Also, I noticed you put your screws in manually. Do you not like using a power driver?
Thanks, glad you like my style. I like manually driving screws because you get the "feel" of how tight it is so you don't strip out the holes. I sometimes use power drivers but on projects not so finicky. Thanks for the watch!
Looking good
Thanks Bruh!
im following along, thanks for doing this ;) i love the "simple" aproach still doing it with "simple" tools we can all affort
You mean you don't want to see how I use a million dollars of cnc equipment and 3d printers? lol. Maybe in the future I'll be able to deck out a future Way of the Wrench workshop....that would be the dream. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench haha would be awesome, when your done with this, basic one :D try go all out and use the expensive stuff and see, does it really matter ;)
Ya know it really doesn't, it just makes things faster. As long as you take your time, you can get nice clean accurate parts.
Always a pleasure to watch and listen your patient and precise work! Im getting a damaged Williams Widebody Cabinet in a few weeks and then starting to transplant my Prototype-duct-tape-Setup ;-) Working well from start, thanks to your inspiration (otherwise would not now about how easy to start Visual Pinball) , videos and advice ;-) Thanks again for this time eating (soo many games and most everyday a new / improved one) and satisfying hobby bro! Greetings from Bremen
I'm super happy that you are enjoying the content and my teaching style Eric! Yeah isn't it a great hobby! I just wished I knew about it earlier. Yeah once you get the hang of installing tables and getting them setup, you'll be playing for months just on your monitors and building your cabinets with be delayed! Cool, what cabinet is your damaged one? Is it fixable or are you stripping the parts to put on a new one you make? You're in Bremen Germany? Cool, I'm in Vancouver Canada. Thanks for the watch Bruh!
Hi (dont figured out youre Name yet ;-) I get a lightly damaged Indiana Jones Widebody Cabinet that i will fix and hopefully (depending on time) tune up in a Bride of Pinbot Style (with decals for the Bride of Pinbot 2.0 from Dutch Pinball) my first real Pinball and all time favourite! About your plans for a bigger Playfield Monitor: i tested different setups including a 49" Sony UHD TV = way to big, looks weird! My actual Setup: 28" Backbox, 20" DMD, 7" Topper ("toything" , only for testing)and a Gigabyte Aorus 43" 144hz (got this cheap as a second choice because feets were missing *lol*) and running 4k with a rtx2080, most of the time 250 fps and more, man this is the thing!!! Stunning and worth every dime! Really exited to see your machine running. Will you also make videos about setting up the frontend? Keep up the excellent work!
Cool Bride of Pinbot! That's a good one, it's really hard to pick with so many good ones out there. Yes I will be showing all of the steps as I move forward, it just might take a while as these videos take forever. Cheers from Canada, Emil.
Nice work! Great content. Thanks!
Thanks Mike! Keep watching my videos, my kids need to eat....
@@wayofthewrench I watch every one that comes out! An added benefit is that now I know about brakes and welding. The first video I ever watched was how to install the software. I've been down the rabbit hole after that. My biggest challenge now is what kind of cabinet do I want to build. Wide body, Standard, or do it all myself. I'll probably do a flat pack of some sort just to make it easier. We will see. I can't wait to see the electronics part of your build. I find some of the tutorials for the electrical a little challenging.
Excellent...I gotcha hooked! Now I just need to clone you! Ya if ya keep watching, you're gonna be unstoppable in a shop! I have 3 videos coming up on diy lockdown bars that might make you wanna make your own custom cabinet so you can fit a larger monitor, ya might wanna wait to see them before you decide. Yeah the electronics getting installed is trickier but I'll try my best to make easy to understand videos. Cheers and thanks for the support Mike!
Should use shocks to hold the screen up. They should hold it up and make it so it can’t slam down.
Yeah there's a lot of different methods to hold that monitor up but tiny shocks would work too.
It is an interesting approach indeed. But I've done it differently.
In my case, I opted for the monitor to be parallel to the inclination of the cab. Why?
Because the point of view on the 3D playfield can be adjusted via software and, doing so, it does give me view on that vertical part of the playfield under the DMD.
But this is the beauty of project like these, you can customise them to your needs, without having to follow any rules, just suggestions and guidelines by passionate people like you.
Yeah it's personal preference but I hear ya. I did it so it looked right and so there was room for a led matrix. Thanks for the watch!
Yes, the addressable LEDs look amazing although in my version, I opted to omit them. Anyways, yours is a fantastic job! I wish you to enjoy it for a long time.
Your videos on this build have been really informative and well made. Thanks for uploading them!
Thanks! Yeah I get it that it is personal preference for aleds or not. You're very welcome, glad you are enjoying the content. Cheers!
I'm also liking the idea of having the screen lower than the glass for a better sense of depth. What will you do to hide the 'bezels' in this case? I read somewhere black acrylic is a good option.
In my case, I used a 10 year old tv that has pretty big bezels that couldn't be removed without damaging the structure of the tv. I am planning on putting my addressible led strips down the sides and an led matrix on the back. I also plan on painting the bezels black to help hide them. We'll see how that looks pretty soon. Thanks for the watch!
muchas gracias
De nada Joel!
Love the detail contained in your videos. Just a question though. What’s the reason for not installing the playfield flush with the top. I would suspect that it would make you believe there was more of a slope. It almost looks flat. Curious to hear the reasoning behind it. Thanks for the vid and great work.
So I had room for my matrix at the far end. It looks flat but it isn't flat at all. With it off it looks like a blank pinball table at the correct angle if it was real. Thanks for the watch!
Awesome video as usual....love all the details.......only thing is i find the monitor won't have much of an angle...seems to be lying fairly flat.....maybe it will look different once your playing it...maybe it's the angle of the camera...anyways again thanks for the very informative detailed video.....
Thanks! It's probably mostly the filming angle, it looks different when you're playing it. However, it would look brighter/better if the angle was higher but then you break the illusion of the dropped playfield. I may adjust the rear up a bit with the legs to help with this. Thanks for the watch!
Also nice to see that you install the playfield near the lockbar above the flipperbuttons. Seen so many builds with much useless empty space between lockbar and Playfield. As a former real pinball collector this looks ugly and not symetric to me, your decision is absolut right! ;-)
Thanks Sam! Yeah the huge gap at the front on some builds looks horrible and it's the real reason why I went away from the stock widebody dimensions and looked for a bigger sized monitor that had the length to make this happen. Turns out an old 46" tv works for this! In the future I'll upgrade to a newer thinner 48" 4k monitor with 120 hz. Thanks for the watch and the praise!
These are fantastic video tutorials. Possibly the best on YT for this. I have been obsessively researching these for about a month. Love your work however it's putting me off constructing one myself, haha.
I'll maybe try a basic build on an existing unused hifi cabinet first, it's at about the correct height I reckon & really heavy.
I have a question about your Playfield Table Angle... in the video where you're deciding on the PFT angle & also height/position of rear screens (using textbooks) the PlayField Table looks to be around 15 - 20 degrees from horizontal. In this video it looks more like the angle is about 5 deg. is that correct & if so, what is the reason for this?
I would be planning on using a 32" 1080 LED or IPS screen, would this make a difference to said angle as it's not as high a resolution as your 4K?
Thank you for your kind words! I'm glad you enjoyed my teaching style. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate it if you could share out my channel on your social media so I can help more people.
You should just build one but go slow and take your time...enjoy the process.
If you look at my vpin cabinet plans ( video description), just take the angle of the angled side and figure out what my monitor angle is. I have my monitor 1" lower at the front and 4" lower at the back. There is also the angle of the legs which pitches the back upwards a bit too. I would highly suggest taking your monitor and mocking up the angle you plan on using do it's exactly how you want it to look like.... it's your preference.
I'm actually not using 4k, I have a 10 year old 1080p tv in there. I plan on upgrading later once the budget build is completed.
Good luck on your build. Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
Thank you. These videos are extremely well done. I just finished getting my SW setup and now I'm watching to plan the cab build. Do you feel the PC needs vibration isolation?
Thanks Bruh! Glad you like the series! SW? Ya know that's a good question, usually pc parts don't like vibrations. I definitely would not mount your pc right next to an exciter. Mine is close so I decided to build a pull out shelf on slides and I'm going to probably mount it on some anti vibration mat. Thanks for the watch!
Great content! Im at the stage of leveling out the playfield screen with spacers (one reason is because the casing is angled and also because the back of the screen will hit the blocks holding the dowel when i fold it up. The vesa is 100x100mm using m4 screws so in my opinon a bit weak for being a 16kg screen, you think the screws can handle the pressure of using 15mm spacers?
Thanks! It should be ok but you'll need to make sure you have longer m4 bolts to ensure full strength in the threads or else it will strip out. If you're worried, you could always add some support blocks around the perimeter to take some weight. Good luck!
Very helpful video. Thank you. Forgive my ignorance but if ur playfield tv dimensions are 42.75" long x 24.75" and the inner cabinet dimension is 25" but your playfield tv mount is 30" long x 30.25" wide in accordance to your sketchup plans. It seems the plywood tv mount is wider than the cabinet also, the tv mount specs are much shorter than the tv, However, your video shows the plywood tv mount is longer than the tv itself. Please bare with me as I try to put all the pieces together you could provide would be greatly appreciated.
Glad you're loving the series. I believe the 30" x 30.25" is the blackbox mount. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Thank you very much for the quick response. What was the final dimension of your plywood tv mount? I realize you should build the cabinet around the tv. Thus, I am trying to figure out the size of the plywood tv mount for my tv that is 24.3" high and 42.20" wide, which is close to the tv you used. I appreciate what you do for the community.
The dimensions of the plans are exactly what I used. I only added holes in the playfield mount for air circulation. Good luck!
My apologies. You are absolutely right. I was looking at the wrong piece. Thank you for all the great videos and great advice.
You're welcome, cheers!
I think it is a mistake to not keep the monitor flush to the top of the cab all the way to the back of the cab. I know the current thinking is to angle it down to create a more realistic representation of the back of the cab but I think modern gpus change that. They are now strong enough to do ray tracing lighting, so a good display with HDR will be able to render the back of the playfield much better in 3d then trying to artificially create it by angling down the display. This will result in recreation tables look ultra realistic reflecting the actual back portion of their playfields.
I see what you're saying, especially with the new pov for vpx 10.8. there are other reasons to drop the monitor though like leaving space for a led matrix and making it look like a real pinball table. I really hate the screen right up to the glass, to me it looks like a video game. I'm pretty happy with how mine turned out but I'll have to see what it looks like in 10.8 pov. Thanks for the watch!
Seriously loving the series an am starting a build myself, if I missed something why not have the playfield monitor by the speaker end higher up to look like a regular pinball with the playfield closer to the player lower down or is this just preference?
But if it wasnt for this series i would be not building this as quickly keep up the good work
Thanks Robert! Glad you're liking the series and getting something out of it. The reason the monitor is down at the back is so it looks more like a real pinball cabinet. If the monitor is right up to the top, it looks like a tv screen. This is my opinion though as some people do make it the other way. It also depends on your viewing angle on your monitor. Good luck on your build!
@@wayofthewrench ok thats good info to know, Il keep that in mind on my build an test screen angles too, cant wait for the next video!
Good luck with your build Robert!
Great work! With the display installed, how do you feel about the angle/placement of the TV?
Thanks Eric! I feel pretty good about the monitor placement. I mean it could look at little bit brighter/better with the back a couple inches higher but then the illusion of the dropped playfield is gone. I can't go lower at the front unless it was 5 inches lower (to clear plunger/buttons) which would look dumb. If anything I might raise the back legs of the cabinet and drop the front legs a bit to tilt it a bit forward. Otherwise, I'm pretty happy and there is just enough room to add my led matrix to the back. I'm really happy with where the display meets the edge of the lockdown bar too ( video still to come). Thanks for the watch Eric!
@@wayofthewrench great stuff, thanks. What is the angle of the monitor? I am shooting for the realistic 6.5 degrees but realizing that may not be easy to achieve.
Exact angle....dunno. If you look at my plans to figure out that angle then add the playfield angle of touching the cabinet on the front on top and down 4 inches at the back....whatever that is. Keep in mind, if you dont use a led matrix, you can alter it to whatever you want.
Hello Sir! Is the TV playfield at 0 degrees or does it have a slight slope? Thanks for sharing
It has a slope, it kinda looks like there isn't due to the slope of the cabinet top edge though. Thanks for the watch!
Just curious, did you consider just resting a enclosed monitor on some screws instead. I did this and it seems to be fine. Basically four screws perpendicular to the sides of the machine, I put spacers that come with TV mounts to give it more cushion.
Not a bad idea but I love being able to tilt up my playfield to work inside. There is always a different way, it just depend on what you need. Thanks for the suggestion and the watch, cheers!
What kind of monitor did you use? I have a old gottlieb cabnet of waterworld that doesn't work and I was going to use the cabinet, but I can only fit a 40 tv.
I used a 10 year old Samsung 46" tv, the actual model number is in my monitor video in the playlist. Its a really nice tv but too big for your cabinet. Rtings is a good site to figure out specs and sizes for your build. Good luck and I'd love to see your build when you're done. Cheers!
I'm looking to limit the overall weight and improve modularity and transportability of my cab design. So i want a lighter playfield monitor mount and easy removal. i'm thinking of somehow adapting a wall mount bracket? Also i want to make the backbox easily removable and reattach (and easy wiring). How would you do all this?
Honestly, the plywood monitor mount I made was pretty light and if you drilled more holes, you could make it even lighter. As for the back box, if you didn't want the standard hinges, you could just have the stock back box bolts and latch, that's pretty easy to remove within a couple minutes. The wiring for the top is the 2 hdmi cables to monitors and their electrical plug ins and the back box speaker 3.5 mm wire. Not any real way to make those quicker or easier. These cabinets are stinking heavy even with your lightening efforts so you may wanna rethink the size if portability is your concern. Thanks for the watch!
Quick question. I've installed the monitor using your techniques. Should I go back and add wood glue to the blocks? Thanks.
Which blocks? The ones on the sides of the cabinet that hold the dowel? I didn't but you could before you paint.
Wouldn't you want your playfield screen slightly recessed to give it more of a 3d feel? Maybe I am missing that detail. I guess I will see when I get to that video. :)
Mine is recessed 1" at the front and 4" at the back to give that recessed look but some go flush with the glass. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench oh, excellent. Thats perfect. I thought for a moment it was going to be flush with the glass. Nice. Really enjoying your build. I am binging it at the moment.
Glad you're enjoying the channel! You making a vpin?
@@wayofthewrench I currently have a modded A1UP but am considering doing a full size build. Your videos are helping me assess the project.
DO IT! Make a full size custom vpin and sell your other one for the new vpin's parts. you won't regret it.
you guys (USA/Canada) really need to move to the metric system lol... 5" and 9 sixteenths... wow
Funny thing is we are Metric up here but there is still lots of things that still use Imperial. I guess we just can't quit you America! Lol.
Do your buttons have room next to tv
Yup sure do. Not a ton of room but there is room with standard buttons and leaf switches from Virtuapin. Thanks for the watch!
When is the next video already L&S
L&S? (liked & subscribed?) Next videos are scheduled to drop every Thursday for the next 3 weeks. DIY Lock down bars are the next stuff. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench I saw a guy use the bottom part of an oven door cut,sanded,bondo'ed ,repainted and it was a perfect fit. Yes already liked and subscribed..
P.S. play Black Knight
Yeah I saw that too, it turned out ok but he still needed to weld it. My design is pretty awesome in my opinion and the first version requires no welding. The second version requires welding but is legit 16 gauge stainless steel. Cool beans.
I love Black Knight and I played a real Sword of Rage the other day.....soooo good!