Virtual Pinball Parts: What do you need?
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- čas přidán 15. 12. 2021
- Episode#6 Custom Virtual Pinball Cabinet Build
In this video I will be talking about all of the parts you will need to make a virtual pinball cabinet as well as where I got them from, how much they were, and all of the little things you need to know about them. This cabinet will have SSF (Surround Sound Feedback) so information on all of the external sound card/exciters/base shakers/amps will be discussed. In future videos the LED addressable strips/dot matrix/DOF and mechanical upgrades will be shown. Remember you will need monitors and a computer to build this vpin cabinet and these have separate videos already out, check em out!
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02:35 legs from (PL) Pinball Life
04:05 Leg brackets and screws (PL)
04:52 Leg levelers (PL)
05:02 Silicone Leveler feet to protect floors (PL)
05:28 Cabinet protectors (PL)
06:00 Chrome leg bolts and nuts (PL)
06:14 Side rails for holding playfield glass (PL)
07:00 plastic channel for holding the back of the playfield glass (PL)
07:30 Coin door (PL)
09:14 Coin door carriage bolts and flange nuts (PL)
09:52 Lift channel from Absolute Pinball
10:50 Ultimate cabinet builder's button kit from Virtuapin (VP)
13:28 Plunger and Virtuapin plunger kit/KL25Z (VP)
15:37 Backbox hinges (VP)
17:06 Computer fan grills (VP)
17:36 Speaker mesh/speaker covers (VP)
18:40 Backbox latch and toggle clamp (VP)
19:10 Wing bolts for the backbox to cabinet (VP)
19:43 Speaker panel latch brackets (VP)
21:26 Backbox lock assembly (VP)
22:14 Stainless side rails/double sided tape/hardware (VP)
23:44 Plywood and lumber form local hardware store/building supplier
27:00 Aluminum C channel from hardware store/building supplier amzn.to/3DzkwkI
28:32 Wood glue amzn.to/3Dzml0T and screws from local building supplier
29:33 2.1 surround sound system for backbox amzn.to/3l0nfgD
31:03 Exciter pucks amzn.to/3XVclat
33:55 Bass shaker exciters amzn.to/3kTcEUF
34:51 2.1 surround sound amplifiers for the exciters amzn.to/3jnlZDQ
35:50 7.1 external sound card amzn.to/3WShz5I
37:22 3.5mm to 3.5mm stereo audio extensions amzn.to/3HRpdIY
37:56 Ground loop isolators amzn.to/3HMIZFF
38:40 Power supplies from thrift store/old computer/amazon amzn.to/3Jv7wjX
45:20 4 pin PWM computer fans amzn.to/3JzAnn9
46:30 PWM computer fan control board amzn.to/3kWsy0x
47:16 master slave power strip amzn.to/3wMiVEa
48:51 ICE320 power outlet amzn.to/3wPmycM
49:43 16 gauge wire amzn.to/3HrLITw and 22 gauge wire amzn.to/3HsAsX3
50:41 Dupont connector kit amzn.to/3joMJUp and crimpers amzn.to/3l4IttC
51:20 T molding and slitting router bit from tmolding.com
53:07 Tempered glass from local glass supplier
54:12 Beer spill foam tape amzn.to/40kevC9
55:05 Lockdown bar/receiver toggle clamps amzn.to/3HSaEoR
56:10 Optional parts- xbox 360 kinetic camera and game controller
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I have been so overwhelmed by just getting in to trying to learn what to do. This video is just in time (even 2 years later). Thank you for sharing.
Yup I get it. When I started it was all very overwhelming. Hope you enjoy the series! Good luck on your build!
Can't wait for the next part. This is a very informative series and has really helped me plan out my cabinet build. Thanks for all of the great info!
Glad you're liking the series Kyle! Happy to contribute to the vpin community; its such a cool project to build! Next video is out tomorrow and it's on my design tips and Sketchup tutorial for drawing your own custom vpin cab. Thanks for the watch bruh!
Just wanted to thank you for your channel! It helped me with my arcade cabinet, and you've now got me building a virtual pinball cabinet. Couldn't have done it without the detailed help!
That's awesome Cameron! Happy these videos helped you out and got you motivated to build your own! I'd love to see your arcade cabinet, send me a dm on Instagram!
If you deem me worthy, I would really appreciate it if you could share my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks in advance and thanks for the watch Cameron! Cheers!
The depth of info is awesome. Long video is great if loaded with amazing info Huge help thanks
Thanks Vic! Yeah I find it hard to not make these epic long videos but I would have to cut out the info or parts so long it is. Glad you enjoyed the video. You building a vpin?
This is by far one of the best series on building a virtual pinball.. so down to earth just focus on the basics and showing it. Big thumbs up from me, i have to be a subscriber ;) keep up the good work, really nice video.
Thanks Jan! I'm glad you liked the video and got something out of it. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate a share out on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks in advance. If you liked this one, you're going to love the one I'm working on now! Cheers!
I'm very thankful for this series. I've got it in my head to make one of these and having a series like this really helps clear up some questions and searching.
Glad to hear it! You should totally build one, you have my permission to start this! Lol. Enjoy your build!
This is awsome. So glad I found your videos and your local to me as well, I am in Maple Ridge BC! Fresh to the pinball scene and your videos are great for newbies like me 👍🏾
Thanks bruh! Yeah I'm relatively new to the hobby too but diving head in. I love this new hobby but it is quite complex, I remember first looking at all the information and was completely lost. So I'm doing this series to help out people in the community. Yeah you're pretty close to me, when you get your vpin built I'll come check it out! Good luck on your build!
what a pleasure to watch and listen to this tutorial.
thanks for the ground loop isolators. didn't know they exist.
23:26 these are hands of somebody who knows what he is talking about.
Man if you liked that video, you're gonna love the others! LOL, yeah those hands have seen some stuff.....Thanks for the watch!
My man this is exactly what I need. Tja ks for making pin dreams come true
Glad to help, just trying to contribute to the vpin community because it is seriously one of the coolest things to make and it is a pretty steep learning curve. I would not have been able to make mine without the countless members helping each other and authoring tables/programs. You building one of these vpin cabs? Thanks for the watch!
Duuuuuuuuuuuuuuude!!!! These vids are absolutely crucial for those wanting to build their own cabinet.
I have already built mine but man....it was quite a lot of trips back and forth getting all the stuff I thought i already had. This would have saved me a ton of time. :)
I went with an SSF setup to start with as well and I am just now adding a shaker moter, maybe a knocker, solenoids and addressable LED's and getting ready to start with DOF. That part I am slightly intimidated. Really looking forward to seeing how you go about tackling that one as there aren't any guides out there that are up to date on this process and it seems to confuse quite a few people.
Great videos......really good stuff. Thank you. :)
Thanks Joe! Yeah it looks like there are a lot of people looking for this info as this video especially is really popping. Sounds like you are heading where I am. I'm going to finish the cabinet with ssf and then add everything as separate videos, like led lighting, dof, ssf, bam/Kinect, shaker motor, knocker, etc. So stay tuned and I'll show ya how I end up doing it on my cab. Good luck on your build!
Amazing man, it's so incrible! congratulations!
Thanks Joel!
Love the build so far, makes me want to document my process. One note, the power switch you referenced on the coin door is actually a 'slam tilt' switch. It was placed there to prevent people from beating on the coindoor in a commercial setting. If that triggers due to a hard hit to the front of the cab (and it takes a lot), game over. No ball over like a traditional tilt, just loss of credit. We have one on our 1988 Williams Cyclone at work and it's actually convenient if you just want to reset your game due to an early drain (they didn't have ball saves in that era) in a free play home setting. Keep it coming!
Ya you're right. Funny enough I just made a bracket yesterday to hold the coin door switch for cutting power to high voltage. I'm going to use it for telling vpx that the coin door is open and later I'm going to add some lighting to turn on when you open the coin door so you can see inside. I don't think I'm going to use that slam switch but easy enough to do it later. Yeah the build is getting close to playing....hopefully it doesn't stall because I'm too busy playing it! Thanks for the watch!
ASU Sun Devils baby! I'm a fellow alum. Love your vids btw. Extremely helpful for my upcoming build.
Yeah GO Sun Devils! Glad you're enjoying the series and finding it useful! Cheers!
This is insane. Just getting to the point with my first virtual cab where I was looking at hours upon hours of research required to get the right things together, and here's this well made, engaging video that hits every point and links every item?! Instant subscriber here; amazing work!
Thanks Bruh! Yeah I did all those hours of research so I figured this could be my way of contributing to the vpin community. Glad it was helpful for ya and you enjoyed it. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate if you could share my channel on your social media so I can help more people. Thanks for the sub and the watch. Cheers HurstGutsy!
@@wayofthewrench Absolutely will--as I progress with the build I'm sure I'll be posting on Reddit and Facebook groups. I'll be sure to credit you whenever I use your info. EDIT: Also, really dig the professionalism in your delivery and onscreen presence. Not many folks mentioned that aspect but it makes for especially great content. Keep it up!
Thanks Bruh! I do try really hard to make quality videos that are entertaining and educational so it's really nice to hear back from viewers. A massive amount of time/energy goes into the filming/editing and this is besides my regular job as a teacher.....plus I'm trying to be a good father for my kids. There is literally not enough time in the day....Cheers!
Accidental ASMR. Excited to see an update to this project!
lol, I didn't plan it. It's coming along, Sketchup design video next. Thanks for the watch!
Great vid my man
Thanks bruh! Glad you liked the video!
I used the same DAEX58P exciters, however I used the Dayton BST-2 bass shakers. I used the BST-1s on my home theater chairs and they are insane complete overkill for a virtual pinball machine. I probably never even use more than half power on my BST-2s in my cabinet and there are a lot cheaper. SSF is incredible and a complete game changer when it comes to virtual pinball. You will enjoy it.
That's awesome to hear! In my mind, having to turn down audio components is perfect! How much are the BST2s? Yeah I'm soooo looking forward to this build. Thanks for the watch!
how big was your cabinet (full size)? good to hear about the smaller bass shakers. Would larger exciters be beneficial, or same to stay with the DAEX58P - I was considering 'DAEX32QMB-4'
You know I didn’t trust Charlie’s Uncle before this video but I guess he’s a pretty cool guy
Every Movember I am cursed by Uncle Charlie.... Thanks for the watch!
Nice! I'll refer back to it some day when I'm ready.
P.S. If you add 00:00 to your timestamps as e.g. Introduction, then the rest of your timestamps can be selected in the videos timeline to quickly jump to different sections.
Ahhhh ok cool, I didn't realize that was how they pop up in the video. I'll try that out and update my videos. Thanks for the tip! Cheers!
love it !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! subbed
Thanks for the sub bruh! Glad to hear this video was useful for ya. Just finishing up my Sketchup designs for my cabinet so look forward to that video coming out soon. Cheers!
Thank you for this instruction video. Maybe 1 tip: I bought a secondhand 4K TV (Samsung UE40MU6120) for the playfield. (Yes they are hard to find) and set it to 1920 x 1080 in Windows. That way I do'nt have to buy a very expensive graphics card and can wait until the prices have dropped.
The trick is that the TV itself makes a 4K picture, (it smoothes the edges a bit so it looks better than on a 1K TV). Thank you and keep up the good work.
That's actually a really smart way to build a cabinet....kinda like prebuilding for your eventual upgrade because the monitor is the biggest issue. The gpu is a simple swap later. Dang son....where was this tip at the beginning of my build!!! Thanks for the watch!
Sweet - Local North Van guy here just stumbled onto your video as I was heading down the rabbit hole on this stuff. Was looking to probably pick up an AtGames Legends Pinball to turn into my Vpin table with a PC etc etc. But idk maybe I just build one!
Cool! Nice to hear from a local! Don't do it, just make your own, you wont regret it. Thanks for the watch!
Amazing! Video..
Thanks Ronald! Glad you liked the video! You building a vpin cabinet?
@@wayofthewrench i am interested, I have built a mame cabinet with visual pinball and future pinball I drilled holes on the side of the cabinet and added buttons to make it feel like a pinball machine but it does not feel authentic my goal is to create one like yours thanks for responding your video is so awesome me and my son watched it together my son thinks you're a cool guy so do I
Thank you so much on all of the videos.. I’m preparing almost the same project. I would like to ask, if you have any video on how to install Mame vertical games on the cabinet.
You're very welcome! Not yet but I do plan on adding mame to my vpin and making a video for it. Stay tuned! Thanks for the watch!
Love this channel! Great info!
Thanks Tom, that means a lot! If ya wanna help me out, I could really use some help spreading the word. Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench Sure I will share your channel big time. I was wondering about the PC specs you are using. What processor, memory amount, and video card are you using? Currently I have a Ryzen 3 2200g, 16 GB of 3200 RAM and a GTX 1650 video card. Any info you can provide will help me a lot! Also, are you using Future Pinball or Visual Pinball X - or both? LOL sorry for all the questions. BTW I have decide to repurpose a nonworking Williams Pinball cabinet and use that as my cabinet. Thank you for your thorough videos and sharing such great content with us!!!!!!!!!!
Thanks Bruh! I am using an i5 roughly 3.1 ghz with 16g of ddr3 ram and a gtx 770 plus a 500g ssd. I saw your specs, you will have no problems with 1080p and maybe even 4k at 60 hz. Cool, a standard size Williams cabinet? I looked for one myself, but everyone wanted way too much for them. Decided to just make my own and I'm currently assembling the wood cabinet, if ya wanna see pics, check my instagram. Cheers!
I'm using Visual pinball 9 and 10 and future pinball. Fx3 will be later once Im all done.
@@wayofthewrench Thanks for the quick reply!! My brother gave me a Swords of Fury pinball by Williams and it is poor shape. I finally decided to gut it and make virtualpinball machine out of it. He really wanted me to "fix" it but the money involved in doing so were stupidly expensive. Thanks for your info it really helps a lot. I am a PC nerd by trade and have a lot of monitors an such laying around - but for the playing field I plan on buying a 4K 43 inch Best Buy Insignia model TV - they are like $260. I have the same model as my home TV and it rocks for the money! I hope to see your progres on your build!! Thanks again. BTW Future Pinball or Future Pinball? Or both for your build?
And many, many more !
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I don't think I've seen any build that uses a bass exciter with the 4 side exciters. Curious how that works out as I'm going full SSF as well. I think I'm going to add solenoids too, but maybe down the road and see if SSF is enough. Loving the detail and thoroughness. Makes me excited about getting mine going!
Yeah I'm excited to see/feel the 7.1 surround sound feedback system when its done. From my research, everybody seems really happy with their ssf setup so much like you, I'll start with these and see. I will most likely add stuff like real knocker, gear motor later too. Thanks for the watch!
thank you very much for your video and your help. I wanted to ask you if you consider the 2x Dayton Audio BST-1 Bass Shaker necessary?
I was thinking in order to reduce the cost, I used only 4 small Dayton Audio's DAEX58FP. or is it just one bass shaker instead of two?
Order two in my opinion. Cheers!
You don't need a separate PWM fan controller, you can just use the one built into your computer motherboard. Every motherboard has at least 3 and up to 6+ connectors for PWM fans that adjust based on the motherboard or CPU temperature sensors.
You're right but I like this PWM fan because they're quick to adjust and setup for 4 fans and it has a built in alarm for if you lose a fan and it speeds up the fans if temps get too high. Pretty cheap too. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench To each his own. You can also use software to set alarms on the PC for a failed fan or certain temperature limit as well though. I mean, why pay more when the functionality is already built into the computer? 🤷♂
Valid points dude! I just really liked these on my raspberry pi arcade build so I used them on this build too. Thanks for your advice!
The switch on the coin door is the slam switch, works like tilt so people didn't try to beat the door and get free games.
Say slam switch three times real fast...........lol. Yeah I didn't hook that up on my vpin but it's there. Thanks for the info and the watch! Cheers!
You didn't happen to create a Google doc or spreadsheet for all the parts used that you can share? Love your playlist btw. Going to use your videos as a guide for my build.
I did one better, all of the parts are in the video description along with links to where I i bought them. Thanks, it was a lot of work but I'm glad people are enjoying the series. Cheers!
Your videos have all been interesting and this one is the best. Great suggestions, the right level of detail and indexing to help get right to the recommendations when looking things up. Thank You. I do have a question regarding the smart power strip and concept. Most TVs or monitors do not power on when power is introduced so having the device receive power in itself will not power the monitor on (without remote control intervention). Is there a jumper or setting which can be enabled to have it power when the smart strip enables power to the monitor?
Thanks Scott! These virtual pinball cabinets are massively complex projects so I'm just trying to share my experience with people so it's not so daunting at first. If you deem me worthy, I'd really appreciate a share out on your social media so I can help more people. With the monitors, there are a bunch of tricks to get them to turn on automatically. First one is turn the monitor on and unplug it and then plug it back in. If it turns back on then you don't have to do anything. Some monitors need an hdmi signal to trigger it to turn on so try the same test with a pc on and sending the signal. Some tvs have a setting in their menu to allow it to turn on with hdmi signal. On my Raspberry Pi arcade cabinet, I had to put in a delay of a couple seconds because the tv would turn on a second or two after and the signal to connect was missed. Another trick you can do is try the original unplug method but manually hold the power on switch for the tv when you plug it back in. If that works then you have to either tape/glue down the power button or you can decase the tv and solder a jumper over the momentary button switch for the power button. The other option is to put in an IR remote switch/repeating switch that can turn on the tv like you would with a remote control. I still have to figure out what I will need for my 3 monitors once it is all setup with the smart power strip but I will share that info in a future build video. Thanks for the watch Scott!
@@wayofthewrench All good suggestions. While this is the video where I first discovered you, I have since watched many related (or somewhat related) videos and really appreciate your thoughtfulness and details. I will certainly share with others and many of my friends are interested in the progress of my build. I most certainly will have additional questions so thanks in advance.
Awesome! Thanks Scott! Yeah my niche is teaching people in the best way I know how by using my experience and enough detail so people really understand the content, all while trying to make it entertaining. Yeah fire away with any questions and I'll be here to help! Cheers!
Tempered is what turns into a bunch of small pieces. Laminated safety glass has a film that keeps it in one piece(ish)
Yup sounds right. The front wind shield of a vehicle is usually laminated but the sides are tempered. For pinball we just need it to not turn into shards and it makes the glass stronger too. Thanks for the watch!
Thanks for the video, very helpful one question... the plastic channel for the playfield holding the glass...what is the name of it and where do I buy it from, had a look in Pinball life
and cant find it there...
www.pinballlife.com/playfield-glass-side-rail-plastic-channel.html
Here ya go, it's pretty cheap too, only $8. Thanks for the watch!
One thing to possibly consider is to change the long spring on the plunger. For a VPin cabinet you don't need such a strong spring as originally fitted. And the springs are colour coded. White or brown springs are weaker but perfect for VPins. They still give the feel of a plunger without being stiff and clunky as they don't need much potential energy for a real ball. My mate got a plunger without swapping the spring and the difference is night and day.
Yeah I have heard about doing this change but I was going to see how it felt on my cabinet before I looked into the springs. Do you know where the softer springs can be bought? I'm assuming somewhere like pinball life? Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Any pinball place should be able to help. I'm in the UK and there are only about two or three small suppliers. But one guy I bought the entire plunger assembly from told me about this when I mentioned it was for a VPin. He advised to change the spring and sent me a white one already fitted and a spare brown one. Mine is only a 2/3 sized mini cab and it works great. Lovely and smooth to operate.
Cool, how do you like your mini cab? What size are your monitors? Did you go 4k on the playfield?
@28:42 - You always get Robertson head screws, because you live in Canada, and that is a very popular screw head in that country. Invented in Canada I believe. In the US they can be found but you have to look real hard to find them. Yes I agree, the Robertson head screws are superior for wood working because it does not slip off of the bit. My preferred screw head when wood working.
Yes you are right, Robertson is a Canadian design but in Canada you can buy any screw you want. You gotta love the Robertson design though. Thanks for tip and the watch!
@48:26 - I am not trying to nit-pick but for clarification the device you are holding is an IEC 320 Switched C14 Inlet Male Plug Power Socket. Not ICE 320 ....
@@wayofthewrench I am excided about watching this series. I have always wanted to build a Virtual Pinball and do a video on it. Now I can just watch yours. Thanks for sharing this build. I love the information you have presented so far.
LOL did I say ICE 320? Nice catch! You are right. Gotta keep me honest! Cheers!
Glad you are enjoying the series bruh! It's a fun project and I'm happy to share my experience so people can build their own. Just started cutting up the panels today....made big chunks of wood into little stacks of wood. Cheers!
I hope there is no noticeable latency in the external sound card since the signal has to travel through the USB bus for things like flipper sounds. There are a lot of resources on external USB sound card latency from musicians. I wonder if you could swap in with the music if you had to? Easy enough to test before installing I guess.
Me too! Well, I guess I get to be your guinea pig as I already bought it so we will see. Worst case scenario, I just buy a sound card...no biggie. I know that a lot of people use this set up though so it should be fine. I have heard though that you don't want the external sound card plugged into a powered usb hub, just straight to pc. You also want to download legit drivers from actual sound card website and not generic Windows ones.
SSF system is applied for zaccarias n pinball Fx (and pinball 3) or just for VPX? I want to add force feedback with that exciters and at the moment wasn’t playing that much VPX system, kind flip me out all those endless configurations.
You should be able to use SSF for any pinball program out there, it's just a matter of setting up the audio settings. If you have access to the surround sound audio settings on Zaccarias/FX then you can do it.
Hey, just curious how much were the shipping, duties and any other costs associated with ordering parts from pinball life. I'm ready to order parts but don't want a big surprise when they deliver. Also I really enjoyed the content for the pinball build awesome job.
You'll be surprised..... it's a lot. It's taxes, duty, and conversion from USD to CAD. It's frankly insane. Think 30% plus 10% plus 30% more..... it's crazy. Glad you enjoyed the series! Cheers!
Was your aluminum c-channel .5 x .5 external? The Amazon link you have has the internal (channel) dimension at .5 and the exterior at 5/8". My guess is you meant to say .5 x .5 internal dimensions but wanted to double-check. Thanks!
I think so, I don't have it in front of me but pretty sure it was that. Cheers!
Have you got the chance to try the kinect? Is it worth the experience? I ask because we get a cool experience from the videos on youtube but we have stereoscopic vision and the live experience is always different.
From my experience I have heard that the Kinect/BAM setup is underwhelming. I bought a used Kinect to try it out but haven't yet. I was going to design it into my vpin cabinet but after hearing the reviews I decided against it. I will definitely try it on my cab and do a video for it and I'll give you my review/verdict of it. Thanks for the question!
I've been searching amps and the one flaw with these TB21's is the Bluetooth addition itself. Without pass protection anyone can tap into pin audio and bt overrides pc connectivity. I've been trying to see if the bt chip can be disabled but no luck. Would be nice if these were available without the bt 5. Someone posted they had to cycle power on the amp to break the bt signal, but all the neighbor need to do is reconnect back to amp
I didn't even think these had BT but as long as your neighboor isn't a ding dong this shouldn't be a problem. If they are, invite them over for beer and pinball....problem solved. LOL. I actually want BT and bought a 2.1 Logitech for it. Good to know about the BT possibility though, I'll have to look into it. Thanks for the watch.
I plan to purchase one from Pinball King, shipping is insane but oh well... however, i worry about maintenance since idk jack about... jack lol. How often do things break down in these? I know it's way less than standard pins. But the one i want has solenoids and all that noise. Do those often require repairs? Should i just go with something basic without the motors and bells + whistles?
Honestly? I would recommend you make your own cabinet and learn all the stuff you don't know so that later you can work on it yourself. Plus the huge plus is you get save a ton of money by doing the cabinet yourself ( like thousands $$$). Then you get to buy all the bells and whistles.....literally...lol. As for things breaking, I would say things don't break a lot but you may have a wire detach or a monitor fail or a pc part fail. All of these will be waaay easier to fix if you built the cabinet. Thanks for the watch, cheers!
Remember, there is a crap windows system running up, it fails itself a lot, other than that, it’s really solid product afterwards.
Great video, thanks for all the good advice. Couple of quick questions. As a fellow Canadian, what was it like getting the VirtuaPin order across the border? Did you have to pay crazy duty, if so, how much? Also, i am interested in the KL25Z board, but not the plunger. Do you know where that can be purchased separately? Please keep up the great videos.
Good day eh....where ya from Dave? Glad your enjoying the series. It was still cheaper to go through the States. For all of the items in the video, I had $167 CAD in duty. Why are you not interested in the plunger? It's the best part no? I know right now the kl25Z board is very hard to get. Not sure if this is a good link but it was on my virtual pinball facebook group today. Good luck!
www.nxp.com/part/FRDM-KL25Z#/
@@wayofthewrench Ottawa, home of the occupation. Not sure I will have the space for the plunger, but I like the accelerometer. Not making a standard cab. Thanks for the response.
Yikes, enjoy the honking. If you're not making a standard cab, then you can put a plunger where ever you want. Yeah that kl25z board will work for the accelerometer and your buttons. Good luck with your build!
Hi,what buttons did you use with the kl25z board?,thanking you in advance.
I used the button kit from Virtuapin and some from my arcade build which are chromed. All of this should be in the video description. Thanks for the watch!
SOMEWHERE.. i commented that i was thinking of using black form ply, but i have since learned that not much sticks to it, so glue won't work well.... though i guess i could sand the black layer off where needed for glue first..?? Or should i just go with normal ply? Thoughts?
Hrmm....personally I would go with cabinet grade plywood so the glue will have way stronger joints for the long term. The laminated black ply is nice because if you don't want to paint, then it's pretty much done though. Honestly, I'm treating my vpin cab like my baby and I am doing everything the way I would suggest someone else do it. It's just my take though, technically there is no wrong way to do these projects. Cheers!
@Way of the Wrench guess i need to learn to paint 😆
That's the spirit!
Oh man shouldnt have seen the kinect...now i need to do this too. But how will it manage tracking if you lock down on the tablet. Is there already some tablet on youtube with this?
Well there is a bit of an issue with the kinect as it sounds amazing but people complain about issues like if there is 2 people in front it doesn't work and it's not true 3d unless you have glasses on and things like that. I am going to set it up on my finished cab to try it out but I don't want to get too excited about it yet. Stay tuned for how well or not well it works in a future video. As for tablets, I'm not sure. As long as you can install the required programs, I would say it would work. Thanks for the watch!
I tear pinball machines apart all the time. If they are junk and not worth saving. My Xenon had a nice cabinet but the table was literally black and the bottom was "burned" like it had been in a fire. Or old Atari pinball machines that were gosh awful anyway. I saved the playfields for artwork. It does take a long while to build these and get them working with motors and gears and knockers but in the end you will have hundreds of machines in one instead of one machine that will require maintenance and fixing and board troubleshooting and switch fixing and waxing and cleaning and modding. I just want to play a game and go back to my day.
Is this your hobby or do you do this for work? I haven't messed with pinball cabinets yet but I did try to find a fixer upper for this vpin cab.....just couldn't find any cheap and they were all fully working so I couldn't do it. Yeah I hear ya about just wanting to play, I've been putting a bunch of time into fx3 on my ps4....easy to play while I build the real thing. Thanks for the watch!
Can you point me to the link/s you are referencing for the xbox kinect? I've found BAM and his videos with links to SW. Looking for a good instructional write up or video. I see he has added visual pinball also. I've been focusing on vpx so I'm happy to see this. Thanks.
I haven't installed the kinect yet so I don't have any videos out yet for that but I will eventually. Yes I am focused on vpx right now but will be adding videos for future pinball and fx3 later....personally I think the vpx tables are better. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Thanks. My build has turned into a wide body. Initially I was going to Fab a MDF lockdown bar as I was primarily using a 42", 32", 15.5 laptop screen and a pc components I already had. But the more I learn the more I want to add. So now, with all of the toys I've added, I decided to get the wide body tempered glass and lock down bar and latch. I have nearly every part now with two over-priced sheets of 3/4" Ply in the garage. I have it all set up in what I am calling my Dev-Station. I followed TerryRed's mega FP guide, last night, and added about 8 FP tables. None of them have feedback. Only the one included with ballerinstaller has dof. Seems you have to choose tables with dof.? For now I really just want to use it to setup the vpx 3d pov. Keep the awesome videos coming. Thanks.
Fantastic video, but supports my decision to buy a pre-made virtual pinball. I am not wired in a DIY way. Cheers from Australia.
I hear ya Tom, I'm very much a diy guy....been that way my whole life. I'm also cheap and have no money so buying an $8000 vpin cab is something I would never do. I think people can become diyers, you just have to start slow and have some success with smaller projects first. Thanks for the watch!
Just my hobby from a day job data analyst. I started with a $1200 Simpsons machine that had been through a flood. That same machine would probably be double now. The old cabinets I had and tossed out on the curb to get them out of the way were GONE within minutes. Xenon cabinet, Future Spa cabinet, even plywood hand made crappily cabinets were snatched up. What is going on! My worst machine now will fetch about $3k. Best vertical MAME games... Donkey Kong's - Gyruss
Yeah it seems like pinball is getting popular again. If I had more room, Id probably start collecting them too. Gotta love Donkey Kong!
why i can't change coin credit key in Taito tables in VPX? (this is always key 3)...sorry by my bad english.
As far as I know, VPX doesn't care what type of brand table it is and you can select in preferences whatever keyboard button or button you want. It is usually 4 or 5 though if you didn't change it. Thanks for the watch!
These videos have inspired me to make my own pinball cabinet, and the detail and info is top notch!
If I’m someone that has a fear of electrical issues trying use my own terminal blocks and stuff…. Can I use the appropriate d/c adapters for things like the amps and lights with an extension cord in the cabinet?
Or do I need to do the advanced electrical stuff here?
Thank you again!!!
Awesome! Glad you're enjoying the series and I have been able to get you into it. Honestly, just start with the screens, a PC, and baller installer. Have fun installing/playing tables and then figure out a cabinet. You could just stop there if you wanted. However, all the extra toys and ssf is the cool stuff. It may seem daunting but with this series and you taking your time, you'll learn lots and have a blast building it all. You got this! Thanks for the watch and welcome to the channel!
I am searching for the same 2.1 amp. I am finding similar with TPA3116D2 chips. Are these performance equivalent or is the "D2" inferior? Thanks.
Im not sure exactly but I would look at the amount of good reviews and make sure the output/input specs are the same. These are pretty cheap amps so at least there is not a ton of money lost if they arent great. Vpforums.com is a good site to see what everyone is using these days.
Hi,what type of blade (size,teeth count etc)did you use for the circular saw?,thanking you in advance.
Off the top of my head no idea but any general purpose circular saw blade will work. I think mine had a kerf of 1/8". Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Thanks for the swift reply;and once again that cab is exceptional..... And all handmade.......bespoke if you like!
No worries, thanks for your kind words. It sure turned out nice, fun to play too. Cheers!
would love to know how much a build like this costs/compares to something pre built premium ones that range from 7-10k. Not afraid of the work, but trying to make sure you can find everything you need seems daunting.
Now that I'm done with mine, I can tell you that my $1500 CAN vpin build is just as good as any of those big budget builds.....you just have to build it. A lot of the money is the labour. You should build one! Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench yeah if I could do it for under $3k I would do it, but I just dont see how you manage to do that. the screen and video card would be like half that budget, the only part I really dont want to deal with is building the case and legs. I'm perfectly happy to do all the wiring, painting, sticking, etc. But would really want 4k 120 and to have proper tilt and solenoid bumpers and surround etc, and finding out everything you need to make all of that work just is a big hill to climb. Congrats on working through all of that! This was a nice series to watch!
If you watch my series through from the start I explain how I did it but yes it will be much harder to do it for 4k and 120 hz. There is a big jump to that; however, I am loving my 1080p at 60hz vpin and will enjoy it while I save up to upgrade it to 4k 120hz. The trick is to use your social network and see if you can get free/cheap monitors/pcs/gpus that they have laying around the house from their recent upgrades. you'd be surprised what people have laying around. Good luck!
Is it OK to use 22 awg wire for the 12v stuff (LEDs,beacons,motors eyc)?
I would say no. You can use 22 gauge for signal wires like button press inputs but anything running power should be at least 18 gauge maybe even 16 gauge. Hope that helps. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Thanks for the reply,and I will use awg 18 for all things power related.
You're welcome!
Do you have any of the small square buttons to replace the ones on the front of an AtGames Legends Pinball cabinet?
I don't have any square buttons on mine and I'm not sure where you would get them, maybe a google search will find them. I used one of the rectangle buttons from the plunger kit but I used the round buttons on the front. I actually liked the chrome bezel on my other buttons so I swapped them in. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench Thanks! I have round ones on my AtGames Legends Ultimate but square ones on the front of my AtGames Legends Pinball machine.
You're welcome...Cheers!
41:24 This is bad advice. Dunno if I'm understanding correctly. But you should ONLY use the cables that came with the PSU. Do NOT use other modular cables that you "have lying about the house". The thing is the motherboard/GPU/drive end of the lead is standardised. So the wires in the block that plugs into your hardware will always be in the same positions no matter what PSU it comes from. But that's NOT always true at the PSU end. The different wires can be in different positions in the plug from one PSU to another. So you might send 12V to a 5V USB device if you pull a lead "from somewhere about the house".
Yeah I should have been more clear on this. I have a bunch of PSU wire harnesses that I would plug into the PSU and the figure out what wire was what voltage with a multimeter. Once I found the voltage I want, I would trim/cap all other positive voltage wires. There should be a couple wires that will most likely need to be wired together to cause the PSU to switch on as well (green and black I think). One thing I'm not 100% sure about is what wire needs to be connected to be a common reference ground with other power supplies. You happen to know which for sure? I think I remember seeing something about V-.
@@wayofthewrench Well I've only ever put 2x PSUs together like that twice before. But the way I understand it is that all the earth/ground wires connect together inside the PSU case anyway. So it shouldn't matter which ground wires you take. As for the modular leads, a decent modular PSU should come with plenty of leads and you know for sure they'll be OK. Don't think I've ever come across a modular supply with no leads... unless someone were to pick up a freebie or used unit.
Yeah the PSU always have tons of extra harnesses and you never use all of them. Those are the ones that I was originally referring to. If I had to buy a PSU for this project, I would just buy the other type mentioned in the video as they are more compact and way cheaper. Cheers from across the pond!
Did you use Michael Robert's designs??
Nope, it's a slight variation of the Williams widebody plans....which are on mjrnet. Mines a custom ultra wide to fit my tv. Should fit a 48" lg OLED c2.
@@wayofthewrench got it. You resized.
So now that it's done....leave it the same size or go the 48"?
Depends on your budget. big budget....go with a 48" LG OLED C3. No budget....redesign to fit what you have hanging out around the house.
The stop lights make bird chirping noises when its your turn to cross the street.
....it would be cooler if it was V8 engine reving while you waited for the green light to drop.
Is there a budget mini pc that’s capable of running 3 screens and vpx?
Yes but you will pay through the nose for a mini PC that is really lower end, especially in the GPU department. Way better to buy a better PC and decase it to fit. Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench its tough right now for me to buy a good computer funds are tight. Gutted out an arcade 1up because it died on me so trying to get it going as cheap as possible. As long as I can get 3 screens for now I can live without all the toys that go along with it.. lol… I’ll look on Facebook marketplace.
Hey do what I did and look for a free or cheap PC and ask friends for any used GPUs or PCs. My PC cost me $50 and runs 3 screens easily.
I want to live in Vancouver.
Yeah it's pretty awesome here....its getting crazy busy here though. Where do you live? Thanks for the watch!
@@wayofthewrench I am in central Wisconsin. Really nice here as well. I was actually long distance dating a girl living in Vancouver, so in 2018 and 2019 I think I visited 6 times. I was actually there enough that I knew my way around downtown pretty well. Any time I see Vancouver on TV I recognize places I have been to. Thanks for the cool pinball build videos. I hope to have a virtual pinball machine and a sweet arcade in the mancave soon. I have woodworking tools, metal working tools, CNC router and mill. Just no time.
Nice, closest I've been to you would be Muskegon. Yeah I hear ya about having no time, it's either no time or no money. Sometimes it's both...lol. Good luck on your mancave arcade!
I watched this entire video to see your buttons, plunger and interface choices and there was nothing included about them at all. Is that going to be a separate video?
This video is part of a series on how to build a virtual pinball cabinet. This video was the parts I am using and a little bit of info of why and where I got them/how much they are. There will be more videos explaining everything you need to know about installing and setting up the cabinet. The button kit and plunger kit is from Virtuapin. The plunger kit is a Williams original plunger with a kl25z board and sensor tube to detect analog movement and convert to digital movement in the game. The board also allows nudge to be set up in the game. Did you have some specific questions you had about the parts?
The baby face has returned! Bring back the beard! Lol
That's Mr Baby Face to you.....lol. Yeah I'm happy that we raised $3700 for Movember this year but I'm always glad when it is Decembeard.
What the?? Widebody kit, plus Williams coin door, plus button kit costs $650(US) as well as $600(US) to ship it here (aus), all up $1880AU !!!
Yup the parts start to add up plus shipping and taxes and duty. That's why I didn't buy the lockdown bar and receiver, those items alone were like $500 CAN so I made them. Either way, don't let the cost of part stop ya, you can always buy slowly over time so the $1500 doesn't seem like much. Remember, you are trying to build an $8,000 vpin cabinet so you're saving a lot of money overall. Good luck on your build!
@@wayofthewrench yeah.. but I don't have the skills to make a lockdown bar 😕
ahhhhh....but you could learn those skills. Wink wink....lol. I had a lot of fun learning how to make that lockdown bar, I'm sure you would enjoy the process too. I think I saw that you already bought one though right? Cheers!
OK im on the 45 minute mark and Im like.... duuuuude! that's a shit ton of parts. are you ever gonna add all the part prices. to give people an idea of a price for all this all together. or gonna make us rewatch and add it manually ourselves? lol . Im lazy.
lol....its a lot of info for a lot of parts but I didn't want just a price of parts, its also what they are and why they are needed. The grand total is about $1,500 for everything including monitors and pc.
What's up man I don't know if you'll see this but this video is a little old We talk a little bit back on one of your other videos I was able to pick me up a old gottlieb Cabinet a few weeks ago for 250 But it didn't come with a coindoor or a lockdown bar So I would really like to see your video on making a lock down bar
And I wasn't quite done with your video but watching the very end of it I'm also gonna build a arcade podium that wraps around own the pinball machine but it's on wheels so can be moved so when you wanna play arcade games you can and when you don't you just move it out of the way
Cool dude! What Gottlieb cabinet is it? Yeah I'm still a ways away from making mine but there will be a video soonish. I just ordered my 16 gauge brushed stainless steel sheet and I will wait until the cabinet is assembled and standing on legs, that way I have my exact dimension to go off of.
That sounds cool, I am just going to use a wireless game controller with the dongle plugged in underneath the cab in a usb pass through socket. That way the cab will look clean and no extra buttons/joysticks. Interested to see your idea though. Cheers!
@@wayofthewrench The cabinet is Bananza 1964 gottlieb table And do you have anything else anything else I can follow you On so that way I can send you pictures
Hit me up on Instagram, link is in the video description on every video. Cheers!
im a 1:26 in and you're talking about a 1500$ budget but NOT doing ANY feedback? arg ,
Finish watching the video....the total for all of the parts is $1,500 and yes I am doing SSF with exciters. I just finished installing them and they are amazing. If you're wanting contactors or solenoids, it would only be a hundred or 2 more. Everything else is needed for a budget 1080p build.
It seems as though you speak purposefully soft and in low volume as if to not to disturb Someone else that is also in the shop at the same time you were filming....
Ya know, I'm a pretty complex guy despite my rough exterior....lol. Ya sometimes I have other people or I have to film when and how I can because of how the shop is and my stoopid hectic schedule. I hope you can still hear me as I spend a metric ton of time filming/editing to ensure my videos are as good as I can get for you guys. I think sometimes I play with my voice levels a little because I do that a lot as a teacher too. Thanks for the watch!
At 18:13 video get creepy
No love for my Movember moustache? I raised $3500 this year for cancer research and had tons of conversations about cancer awareness. To be honest though I'm not a fan of the look either...lol.
@@wayofthewrench right on bro!
Great info so far and enjoyed your other videos. Do you need a KL25Z to control everything?
Thanks bruh! You need something to convert the button presses into something the pc can recognize. You could use a ipac usb controller for this too but the kl25z also does nudging and plunger control. There are other boards too if you want to have other ( more) outputs like rgb buttons, solenoids, flashers, shaker motors etc. I'm planning on doing as much as I can with the kl25z board and go from there. Thanks for the watch!
Yawn
Yeah it's hard to keep a parts video engaging but hopefully all the info is there for people who need it. Thanks for your watch and I think you'll enjoy the rest of the videos better. Cheers!