We SOLVED Why The Infinity Stones OBEYED Thanos and Not Others
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Thanos: Stark
Tony: You know me?
Thanos: I do, you're not the only one cursed with knowledge
I feel like the soul stone was the one that told him about Tony Stark, given that Redskull knew about Thanos and Gamora in advance due to having also been "cursed with knowledge"
@@taelim6599 yup
Cursed soul?
Seeing Thanos weilding them all at once was so awesome and badass.
Yeah stones did warn each other like in infinity war mind stone warned vision 2 times and stones like space,soul and mind seem to be sentient even in comics each stone was either a aspect of a being named nemesis or was given a form after infinity war comic storyline ,also there was a graphic novel about thanos and how he got mind stone in the first place.
Agreed. In the IS comic, Nebula gets the gauntlet, and despite not knowing how to use it, she still is able to effectively hold off and even imprisson the cosmic powers. Thanos explains that this is because the stones/gems themselves were protecting her, regardless of her ability to use them.
In the MCU, the stones activate on their own, as it was with Red Skull, and influence others without being called to do so, such as the Mind Stone in Avengers. And they definitely want to be together, as is hinted at at the end of Age of Ultron.
The stones/gems are definitely more than just cosmic power sources, and the MCU did hint at their having a will of their own, without explicitly coming out and saying it.
Hearing such a great speaker say “Omni-Science” made me bust a gut
What a shit ? Science is a Shit ..
When I first read this comment I thought it said nut and I was confused lmao
@@aidenvarney614 You just gave me an idea...
Thanos planned the entire MCU from the start using the mind stone to formulate a strategy, that's why he willingly gave away the mind stone. He knew he would get it back when he obtained the other stones and it was the last stone he put in the gauntlet.
the mind stone would have shown him the "truth" to the stones which is why he understood them on a fundamental level. fun vid
He already had the other 5 before getting the mind stone so I doubt that's what happened lol
Well he also had Hymdall
@@TheTideKing004 he had the mind stone before any others did you watch the movies or the video? he gave the mind stone to loki
@@TheTideKing004 he gave the mind stone to Loki in the form of the scepter. So he initially had the mind stone already and could have learned much from it.
Would be awesome to see Iron man new suits and Black Panters suit powered by the Power Stone too
Yea
@@jeffinantony6152 Would would not will
heads up omniscience is not pronounced omni-science but phonetically as “ohm-nish-entz”, but I love your videos man, subscriber to both this one and the stupendous wave, it could also be something that was common knowledge for the eternals since they play with the power cosmic and well… Thanos went to eternal elementary school.
All six Infinity Stones" equals omniscience.🌈🤓
omniscience= having all science everywhere lmao
Omniscience" means: All Knowing.🌈🤓
All the science
Sadly, many CZcamsrs seem to have lost the ability to pronounce words properly.
Oh damn even I had forgotten that Thanos was the one that had the mind Stone first... And then just stupidly gave it to Loki
Guess that's why he said he was cursed with knowledge
Exactly what came to mind watching this
It’s absolutely correct that Thanos has the mind stone *before* Loki, before Avengers 1.
His plan was to have Loki conquer earth (for him) - knowing that this would give him ultimately control of space, mind and time stones.
But Thanos could not come out in the open with Odin and the Asgardian ready to stop him.
(The Avengers weren’t even a concern at the time, and Captain Marvel is no Match for entire empire of conquered worlds - only some of which have ever seen even today)
Also Thanos didn’t know where the soul stone was. No one knew Thanos plans other than Gamora and Nebula and planned his attack after Loki caused the Ragnorok - removing Odin.
So when you see Loki give Thanos the space stone at the beginning of Infinity War - and then Thanos make a blitz for the other stones that’s the end result of a brilliant scheme.
*That’s why Thanos won.*
Name another SuperVillain in Cinema who actually pulls off such an ingenious plan.
His timing after hela and odens death and most of the asguardians weaknesses was perfect
Wow! That has just got to be the most imaginatively and cleverly deduced theory that I've ever heard regarding the mysterious origins behind the nature of the Infinity Stones!
Quite an amazing concept for further explaining Thanos' seemingly innate abilities to successfully find and assemble all six of the Infinity Stones, while also enabling him to harness and utilize each one of the stones' powers, both individually and fully combined, during his ultimate conquest of the universe!
I always saw this as thanks made the sacrifice for the soul stone, therefore showing he was aware of the prices the stones pay, as Hawkeye is the one to make the sacrifice for the soul stone, iron man and hulk were rejected by the soul stone causing stark to lose his life as an alternate sacrifice and hulk was severely wounded but as he wasnt trying to take life away his was spared by the soul stone
This is a good theory, idk Thanos is super smart. One thing I really liked on Endgame is when he’s going through Nebula’s memory, he simply responds “Avengers”. So he knows about his possible threat on earth. He studied the avengers to see what kind of edge he could have. I think for as long as Thanos has been alive he has been studying the stones for decades. Dr. Strange was able to use the Time stone pretty well by studying that one book lol I forgot the name of it. Even Loki seems to have the knowledge of the Tesseract and the Mind Scepter coming from the other theory of Odin possibly having the stones in the past to conquer the nine realms. I think out of everyone in the MCU, Thanos is just too obsessed with the stones and learned every bit of information he could until finally obtaining them. But the Mind stone theory does sound pretty cool as well.
He had already met the avengers before in ‘The avengers’
Yeah that’s what I’m saying, he knows who he’s up against. Kinda like he had no problem fighting iron man, Thor and captain America because he pretty much studied these guys and their capabilities. Until Cap wields Mjolnir it actually gave them an edge because of Thanos being unaware of Cap being able to wield it. What I’m trying to get at is that if he’s willing to study his enemies hard why not the stones he desperately wants and how to utilize them to their full potential.
@@hectorquiroz1483 he didn't study..he already fought them in NYC in 2012.
@@patrickberry7197 not personally.
You guys ever think about how the mind stone could of told Thanos about previous beings that used it? like "yea that Odin guy who used me before was way stronger then you, maybe wait until
the Asgardians are in ruin and low in numbers then move your big ass ship above them and take what stones they have left" lol
And remember he gave Loki the mind stone even though he just met him in the end of Thor, Why would the most feared villain of space give away an infinity stone to some random guy who just joined his side? The mind stone definitely told or gave Thanos enlightenment to his cause and probably told him who Loki is, what he is and how sending him to destroy one of the realms could stir up the Asgardians and leave them defenseless(if loki succeeded he would of been a dictator of earth, Odin and Thor would have came to earth to deal with him and thanos could of destroyed asgard or taken the space stone, the avengers foiled his plans) I know thanos is a master tactician but collecting all the stones and snapping his fingers in 21 hours time without some kind of guidance from the stones is just unlikely, also weird how the mind stone which he had first ended up being the last stone he went for, Almost like he knew how powerful its mind influence was and needed 5 other stones before getting close to it again....
I think thanos touch the mind stone first, then its give him the vision(nightmare) like what did to tony stark in avenger2. that is what it began.
Both thanos and tony have the same issue, cursed by knowledge
@@yettamon956 the nightmares came from Wanda that time, not the stone, the stone however, provided the algorithms that overtook Tony's Ultron protocols
4:01 Lol, what? When? When have we ever seen the stones communicating and protecting each other in the MCU?
Well since the stones are somewhat self aware it’s possible they could be protecting each other.
The mind stone in vision's head warned him about thanos' arrival, isn't much of a stretch it did so because he had stones on him already
@@glockwraith Actually it warned him of Corvus Glaive. Thanos was on Nowhere at the time, which is nowhere near Earth.
I'm surprised that someone uploaded this recently instead of figuring that out sooner. He was aware of Odin's power in some shape or form and the mind stone explained it best.
Your breaking the mold bro good job 👏 👍
Imagine giving Hulk the Power Stone 😱
He could destroy an entire planet lol
@@liphrium9858 yep
@@liphrium9858 he already could. Think galaxy.
And brings the question where did he get the idea to harness the stone in a gauntlet
Not to make fun of you but "Omni-Science" cracked me up pretty good.
Great content mate!
I read this comment seconds before he said it. Top tier kek.
It’s possible but remember in Endgame when Gamora told Nebula “father has found an infinity stone” and Nebula responds with “father’s plan is finally in motion” hinting that Thanos had never had and infinity stone and had no idea Loki’s scepter housed one. This dialogue took place on 2014 and Loki’s invasion took place on 2012.
Avengers (2012) says otherwise, Thanos gave Loki the mind stone
they might have just not been told about the sceptre
In the Tony-Thanos 1v1 in infinity war, Thanos addresses tony directly by name, saying he has been cursed with knowledge.
You’re not the only one cursed with knowledge!
100% obvious the stones are aware and judge character. Hulks arm almost melted off before snapping just thinking about bringing nat back...Stones probably like "damn we finally get the chance to all be together for once since the beginning of the time in the universe. lets take this opportunity even tho everyone's dying and shit" lmao
How he did Gamora & quill with the reality stone is my favorite. Cold blooded
The reality stone and space stone could've masked the power surge of the stone destruction? What if the massive energy coming form Thanos farm was the stone signal? Or am I way off, fun thought though.
What did you mean by tapping people around space & using the space stone as an illusion? I thought that was the reality stone with the red aura around the illusion and he only used the space stone to travel through space
3:51 - 3:58 Vision resents that comment.
Isn’t that what the gauntlet is for? To harness and control them?
Thanos is inevitable. He can wield them because he was always meant to.
The bad guys never have to go through a learning curve
I recall that one of the Russow brothers had mentioned in interview that the mad titan was learning to use the stones for the first time. It makes sense that he had already known how to use the mind stone and that may be a hint to why it is missing in the TVA. The time stone didn't obey without the gauntlet and Loki is the first one to hold it on screen. Maybe there have been multiple space stones all along for the trailer-verse, one for the main verse and now one for the what if universe. We saw multiple time stones in the TVA that got pruned too. Maybe there is only one mind stone that was what stabbed agent coulson. There was a reason his death was made to look more convincing in Disney plus by adding edge of the scepter. Maybe Loki, like Deadpool is a 4th wall breaking character who only shows the audience instead, and still can't return to his timeline. I still think he has a bunch of stones but realizes he needs to be stronger without them. I think the only stone he might be able to use is the power stone and is going to look for someone to help build the tesseract again.
I thought he was destined to get the stones. He wanted to gather the stones as much as the stones wanted to be together.
The mind stone trying to convince Thanos that the power of the stones are too much for any one being to wield. Thanos listening carefully but disregarding the purpose of the knowledge.
Or because they were wielded by. The celestials
That created the Eternals . Which is what thanos is . Probably a DNA thing
The mind stone maybe told him knowledge but they don’t answer to his call only to who holds the 7th stone aka the ego stone or Nemesis.
Fully makes sense.. He also told Tony "you're not the only one cursed with knowledge".. Maybe that's why he took it easy cause he knew he'd win, which he did.. It was his past self that lost and with all his knowledge he still wasn't able to predict Dr. Strange using the time stone to view multiple futures to find a way to victory..
Makes sense.
My only issue with the whole mind stone theory is that in end game the scene nebula and gamora, nebula says “his plan is in motion and gamora says 1 of 6 doesn’t mean anything” so if the power stone was one of six how did he have the mind stone all that time
I'll just leave this here for you.
"Soul holds a special place among the Infinity Stones. You might say, it has a certain wisdom."
The Soul Stone is seemingly the only one to canonically have sentience. As per the "Stonekeeper".
always wondered if Thanos would be part of the Green Lanterns if he were DC because of his indomitable will
I think it is more an effect granted to him by the infinity gauntlet. The gauntlet is a device capable of harnessing the power of the stones, according to Eitri the dwarf smith that made it. All Thanos would have to do is decide what he wanted and the gauntlet channeled the stones to make it happen. This is much like how mjolnir allowed Thor to project lightning and other effects when he didn't really know how to use his powers. Mjolnir channeled Thor's power to produce the effect he wanted but Thor didn't actually know how to summon lightning without using mjolnir until Ragnarok. Maybe this is a peculiar effect of the metal Uru or it is an ability bestowed by the smithing skills of the dwarves as so far it's only been dwarf-forged weapons/devices that seem to function this way. Mjolnir, Stormbreaker, the infinity gauntlet, and gugnir being the ones that come to mind.
The cosmic awareness he needs is that which comes from his titan born, eternal dna...
I know it’s not in the MCU but in the savanna bedtime book I wonder if the mind stone helped him with the chitauri
What about the split time-line? The sorcerer Supreme was worried about splitting the time line by taking something, in her case an infinity stone, from the past into the future. Banner solved her worries by saying they would return them back to the exact moment they were taken once they were done. But Thanos came from the past and died in the future so the time-line was altered. Infinity war never happened in endgame thanos's time-line. Also loki altered the time-line again by escaping instead of being arrested.
Could Loki use ALL of the Infinity Stones ?
I have a theory that I'm pretty sure many people have overlooked. We all know that Hulk tried to bring Black Widow but did he also try to bring back Loki and Heimdall. He was there when they both died and knew how important they were to Thor. He also knows how useful they would be to fight Thanos but of course he wouldn't have known that they would have to fight him again. Even though we see New Asgard and Hulk never mentions Loki is it a possibility he could have brought them back without even knowing it. And if he did would they have died again in space or what???
I thought only the Mind Stone has wisdom! But this video stated that all Infinity Stones have certain degrees of intelligence within each of them. I somehow found this to be confusingly interesting and fitting. After all, how he will know who Tony Stark is?
Is that how he was able to know that Gamora knew where the soul stone was?
This whole video sounds like you didn't have enough words on an essay
I think that the mind stone wouldn't give the other stone locations because then he wouldn't be worthy of having then lol
You know, the stones also work in single or multiple applications. Using the mind stone with the power stone creates psychic backlashes, etc.
The gauntlet was made of URU . It's that simple.
In the comics (some tellings) the Celestials created them.
So a theory could be, the MCU origins mimic this and they respond better to someone with a similar DNA to the Celestials, since, in the comics they are/were notorious for using them, so it stands to reason that they are immune to the after effects.
Thanos is half Eternal, a race created by the Celestials (comics anyway) so if they are created by the Celestials then it is possible the Eternals share the same DNA with their creator (to some degree).
So MCU Thanos, via his DNA, was able to understand the abilities of all the stones and use them the way he did without any consequences, apart from the gauntlet melting and fusing to his arm from using them all at once to snap.
This theory links the Eternals to the Celestials, the creators of the infinity stones eons ago.
Thanos might be named the mad titan but he is anything but insane. He is wildly said a genius and no one has a mind like he does. He is strong willed enough to fight strongest psychics...But Thanos didn't make the stones to "obey" him. The problem is that so many people has no idea about the comic side stories which would explain A LOT / EVERYTHING.
4:19 But the Infinity Gems WANT to be together
7:27 oh shit. In this scene, is this the time stone resurrecting the mind stone?
If Thanos was in possession of the Mind Stone prior to the events of the Avengers then it's possible that he gained more knowledge than we've realized up to this point.
I think the mind stone knew he would destroy them to prevent them from being used again.
This does makes sense. 🧐🧐🧐
❤️🍀♾🙏I agree - it happened over time - using each stone to fight the environment he found himself in - he had a higher power he could tap into using the elements of time, space, energy, alchemy, esoteric knowledge, balance, strength, science, and intuition which can be clouded by judgment of others and being judged as well - it’s about balance and strategy - maybe his intentions have yet to be revealed - there are infinite possibilities 💋
TLDW: the mind stone taught him
he could've just gotten one of his minions to kill someone that they love
30 yrs later, why infinity stones found thanos, not the other way around?
Why is No one talking about the 7th infinity stone ( The Ego stone). We need a origins video explanation of this mystery stone..
He talked about it back in March
Oh wow. I missed that video. Gotta see if I can find it
Pretty sure Kang has exploited the power of infinity stones and conquered multiverse.
Maybe its because he's a celestial that was explained many times over
Ah yes: *O m n i - s c i e n c e*
Because Kang allowed it?
If the Mind stone judged it necessary to keep the location of the stones a secret from Thanos.... Then why would it teach him how to weild them..??
What if Thanos sucked on the infinity stones like cough drops?
I feel like that's exactly what he did then he had to lie to the Avengers saying he destroyed them scared of being judged
Just one question why mind stone doesn’t teach thanos about the TVA and Kangs variant he who remains? or HWR wiped all timelines where thanos came to know about TVA?
Because the infinity stones are, pardon the pun, the cornerstone of the universe. Kang and the TVA are survivors of the MULTIversal wars that happen over and over. UNI=\= MULTI
they exist outside of what the stones know as 'reality', so they cant teach him about them
Where is the Mind Stone now after Vision Death?
If the eternals were the first to use the stones... Wouldn't they only work with someone with eternal DNA? Isn't Thanos also part eternal with a deviant gene? When I clicked this video I figured that was the route you were going with
Cool
Who are the "others" the Stones did not obey? The Mind Stone also obeyed Vision and Wanda and the Space Stone also obeyed Loki in Avengers 1.
Thanos hasnt has the mind stone for very long because 2014 Thanos did not have it.
So like if the stones disobeyed thanos does the TVA intervine?!?
Did anyone else see that Thanos looks alot like Stane(Jeff Daniels)?
Why would the mind stone tell him about the other infinity stones and how to use them but not where they are? If the stone does have a mind and knew that Thanos would kill billions, then why would it tell him how to use the other stones?
Isn't the simplest answer that Kang controlled everything?
Something tells me Thanos didn't learn how to wield the stones just by using the mind stone. He would definitely have knowledge but he wouldn't have a lot of experience with the stones. Similar to how just because I've learned the best ways and tactics to play chess in an hour, doesn't mean I've become the greatest chess player who will ever live because I lack experience.
You don't have the mindstone to download the info into your mind like Thanos did
are the infinety stons abel to kombine to a "living" objekt of nature by kombinig al the minds and povers?
Yeah,
What if he use the time stone to learn how to use the rest of the stones
Thanos DID use the stones before. Odin is the one that defeated him and kept him at bay. Once odin was weakening we got Thanos. I mean odin had a gauntlet.
Odin had a fake gauntlet per Hela. She one of the few people who was there for Odin's quest for the stones.
It was a fake gauntlet but it was an indication that Odin knew about the stones. Probably got some of it. He was the one who put the space stone or tesseract on Tonsberg (Earth). He knew where his father hid the reality stone.
Need more stories about the stones in Eternals. I think it would be better if Odin's father had a connection with Eternals. Also, how the time stone got on earth. Need flashback about Agamotto as Sorcerer Supreme in next Doctor Strange film like C'hton as one of the powerful sorcerer was ambitiously want the title not for Agamotto. However, he had no match to defeat Agamotto because of the time stone. C'hton drew dark power from Shuma Gorath but the stone was still powerful to took them down. He used his blood creating Darkhold where the Scarlet Witch would be his weapon (vessel) to defeat the Sorcerer Supreme.
Wanda who transformed to Scarlet Witch and touched the Darkhold was signalling the freedom of C'hton wherever he was imprisoned by Agamotto. Meanwhile, Doctor Strange who was after Mordo to stop his former ally's crazy thing, accidentally unleashed something evil (probably Shuma Gorath). It would be awesome to see Shuma Gorath and C'hton in the Multiverse of Madness as villains. Strange vs Scarlet Witch (fight scene is a must). However, Wanda as a good person would be freed from C'hton power, teaming up with Strange who had no time stone to defeat the villains.
@@JerSwift odin is the all father and watcher of the 9 realms. Hymdall DEFINITELY knew of the eternals. He saw ALL. He is enchanted by a stone and magic. Odin knows of the greek gods and of most threats. And Hela could have said it was "fake" because the STONES in it were. Obviously Etri had a mold for the gauntlet and knew that it was powerful enough to hold to the stones. MAYBE when Odin was on his warpath he thought of collecting the stones but then decided otherwise along the way! Hmm make sense?
@@JerSwift i hear you on that. The MCU screwed up many things i believe. I LOVED the films but so much wrong. Like Hulk, in the comics anytime gamma radiation hits him he gets stronger yet they said the stones had strong gamma signature and it crushed him. Smh Also how does someone who gets powers from a stone then become stronger than the stone. Again great storyline and planning but a lot of angles missed
@@JerSwift i also wish they included Adam warlock since he was a HUGE PART OF THE ORIGINAL and included the 7 stone. Which i am hoping these series lead to
The stone didn't give him much since if he was strategic enough he would have cleared the whole avengers team with just the power stone.
What individual was unable to ever use a stone ?
Omni science
But didn’t he get the mind stone last? He was barely able to use it
I mean if you actually ever read a comic book you would know why Thanos knew so much about them infinity gauntlet is a great read
Your theory of the mind stone withholding info from Thanos is skewed, I'd say that it's because the stones seem to be in constant motion. Whether they're in someone's possession or that there being used for different purposes i.e ( the tesseract [ space stone], the ether [reality stone], the staff [mind stone] etc) they could have been shielded from the mind stone by the object they were contained in. The only exception being the soul stone and that thing was literally in a different dimension and could only be accessed by sacrifice. So I'd say they were all pretty well concealed.
This is bit of a stretch with a couple contradictions. IF the stones protect each other then wouldn't they have not let the Mind stone be destroyed by Wanda. It was just luck that the time stone was there close by to reverse it! It's safe to say Thanos studied the stones for years before and while he quested for them!
So if the infinity stones are intelligent and sentient did they decide that thanos would be defeated
Vision is made of vibranium did thanos literally crush the vibranium in visions head with his bare hands
Omniscience
As an Eternals maybe Have knowledge about it
Then why did space stone didnt kick out loki if it kicked red skulls butt ?