Hong Kong protests: what's at stake for China?
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- čas přidán 22. 05. 2024
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This protester calls himself “Bruce”. We’ve hidden his face and obscured his voice to protect his identity. He’s one of the millions of Hong Kongers taking to the streets.
What started as a protest against an extradition bill has become the most serious challenge to the Communist Party’s authority since the Tiananmen Square protest three decades ago. As the demonstrations enter a third month neither the government nor the protesters is willing to back down.
But it’s not enough to deter the demonstrators. So what happens now?
Hong Kong is one of the most important financial centres in the world. And it has a unique status. It’s a city in China but it’s not entirely Chinese. It has its own currency, its own passport… its own legal system. There’s even a boundary between Hong Kong and the rest of China and you need a permit to cross it. This is all down to its history.
In 1842 Hong Kong was ceded by the Chinese to the British after the first Opium War. But in 1997 Britain gave it back to China. With one important condition - for 50 years Hong Kong was to be governed under what is known as “one country, two systems”. The chief executive who runs Hong Kong would be appointed by a pro-Chinese committee. But the city was guaranteed a high degree of autonomy with its own government, legal system and economic independence until 2047. Over the past decade those rights have been eroded.
Fuller democracy, promised as part of the handover agreement has yet to be granted by China.
China’s grip has got ever tighter. In 2012 the government tried to install a patriotic pro-Chinese education system. Then five Hong Kong booksellers who sold material banned in mainland China disappeared. In 2016 pro-democracy opposition leaders were thrown out of Hong Kong’s parliament for insulting China when swearing their oaths. And then in February this year the government introduced a bill which would have allowed extradition to the mainland.
All this is fuelling the protesters’ anger.
As the protests get larger and more violent the chance of China intervening increases. Beijing has made thinly veiled threats to send in its military forces - the People’s Liberation Army.
In 1989 a student demonstration in Beijing ended in massacre. Hundreds, maybe thousands, were shot dead. For the Chinese government the Hong Kong demonstrators are defying the authority of a Communist leadership that cannot tolerate defiance. Another fear is some protesters’ demand for full independence. But military intervention would be a very risky strategy for Beijing
In 1993 Hong Kong’s GDP accounted for more than a quarter of mainland China’s. Today China’s remarkable rise means that Hong Kong’s economic output makes up less than 3% of the mainland’s. But Hong Kong remains important for China. Multinationals use it as a launch pad to the mainland and it gives Chinese companies access to the rest of the world.
So how the turmoil is resolved matters to more than just the people of Hong Kong.
This all comes at a time when China and America are waging a trade and technology war. Bloodshed on Hong Kong’s streets would make relations deteriorate even further. Beijing is now blaming outsiders for the trouble.
For China the situation has become much more than a dispute over a law. It’s become an existential threat. Bruce and the other protesters are holding their breath.
China’s Communist rulers must choose between two mortal dangers - the collapse of economic stability and prosperity, or the acceptance that protests can limit the Party’s absolute power.
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Interesting thing here is that most ppl here on youtube don't understand the difference between Central government and Local Government of China. Even both of them want stable, the reason and next steps are different.
Local gov for sure wish HK can be "special" as usual so they can still enjoy economical and financial benefits like tax free, low cost water and electricity, etc. Also they can sit still on their seats. That's why they quickly responded to protestors on 9/July, stoped the unwelcoming bill.
But the protestors are not stop when they see good. Now the election system they want is pointing to the center gov. The central gov is different, they want one China stable. If they see any possible situation affect stableness, they will stop it no matter if it will hurt the HK economy. Of course the scene of 30 years ago will not be once more, the central gov are smart, fool them once? ... What they already started is a quiet "letting go", check out the new policy towards Shenzhen and what happened to Shenzhen stock market today.
Maybe these young protestors will eventually get what they want now(a election system even the most democratic US doesn't have), but if things lead to that way, Hongkong will for sure lose their future, economically.
@@geminus0620 hongkong okay democratic
Excellent video.
Fucking Julie Eadeh(a CIA) was behing hong kong protester
It's like an economic proxy war between China and the West.
If you really believe what you say, UK, please grant citizenship to those rebels.
Johnny Wong silly rabbits.
UK should have granted everyone the choice to be chinese or english in 1997 to prove they are really democratic.
Hell they can still do it. Too much blah blah blah. If they really cared they should do it and grant all those protesters a UK passport.
This way China will get rid of the protesters. Protesters will get democracy like they wanted
And UK will have proven they are not just talk and no balls .
A H Chinese HK ppl have no rights to vote when it belong to UK and today HKers can vote this is why only young ppl protest because they do not remember how ‘free and democratic’ was HK before.
British whites racists they dont want them lol
@@bazle64 I would welcome them.
0:20 just realized that its possible to drink with a face mask
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they are such a coward and serious misled without any common sense
loooool you are funny.
Lol
The missing book sellers... that is disgusting.. and if true... they do have something worth fighting for... what the heck happened there?
ybet1000 one of them actually resurfaced on Chinese state TV reading an apology to the Chinese govt out loud saying he would accept any punishment but it’s obvious they’re being forced to do so. The Chinese govt is completely fucked up
@chly coh How is criticism meddling with domestic issues?
@chly coh HAHAHAH - that's such a gross thing to say. People are supposed to think for themselves but... oh wait... that's not what you people do right?
How much do they pay you? Probably a lot.
@@hackerman4582 U can think for yourself really? Have u wonder why for 100 years, the election is US is between 2 parties controlled by big business and banking only. How is this democracy and freedom? U have to choose between trump or hilary.. seriously?? this is the best democracy has yielded?
@@Redtide Well the US isn't a democracy, it has LOTS of issues, but at least you have some sort of free speech.
Not a big fan of the US, but I would way rather live in the US than in China.
As somebody living through the protests in Hong Kong I think the presentation is factually correct and presented quite impartially which I like
Oneday HK if you’d tried to know more about this, you would know how ridiculous and cruel this riot is
@@jonahans8337 US/UK/Europe/CIA/Mi6 home made "Region Change" Against China. When China set the CCR, the CIA and
all the foreign powers run out of HongKong like rats.
British has never give Hong Kong people to choose their leader.
British 'made friends' with HK people in the olden days by giving them opium. The evil agenda was of course to weaken the chinese, infiltrate and dominate the HK society. Ironically, the ones who harmed HK are also the ones who seemed to have 'helped' HK in certain way.
@Paffln yes, hundreds of years ago, but now ShenZhen, ShangHai etc has taken over HK without Britain.
Ask everyone that actually lived during British-ruled Hong Kong and see if they want them back
There is a reason why older people prefer Chinese rule over the British rule
@@ronnygastock9454 actually No. it because most of the elder have oversea citizenship without thinking HK is their home. However, elder who believe HK is their home prefer the Brit
So if I understand correctly, Hong Kong doesn’t want extradition law being passed?
luv_nane28 yeah i wish western media would explain what situation this protest lies on
That's what originally started the protests. Now the protests have become more than just the withdrawal of the extradition law. They're generally pro-democracy protests and the protesters have 5 demands which are the complete withdrawal of the extradition bill, the withdrawal of state media usage of the word 'riot' to describe the protests, the release of detained protesters and their charges be dropped, an inquiry into the police behaviour and how they've dealt with the situations, and genuine elections where China doesn't choose the leadership candidates (who are all pro-Beijing) before the HK people can vote.
Thomas Lam So are you come from HongKong ?
NOAH FANG no I'm from the UK, but I have family in Hong Kong and visit often
Watch vox's video on the Hong Kong protests, very comprehensive on the very issue you want to learn about.
“The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants.” -Thomas Jefferson
very true
p4olom you know the proverbial shit has hit the fan, when people begin to use the words of tyrannical, genocidal white supremacist maniacal dogs as inspiration for “freedom and justice”.
The reason why Hong Kong becomes this situation, due to the promise China made to UK, Tebet and XinJiang are take control by China Govement and out of provety, but Hong Kong ruled by Captism and the people who take control of Hong Kong just care about the profit themselves. Hong Kong hasn't been ruled by China's Govement. It's controled by Hong Kong people and becomes today's bad. By the way , Hong Kong was ceded because of UK, UK doesn't have any rights about Hong Kong. Consideing the power between UK with China, it's China's mercy to forgive UK. CCP never owe UK an agreement. It's promised by China's Govement and the promise made to the world. UK shouldn't perform like a father of Hong Kong. Actually, what UK done in Hong Kong are really fucking things.
@@j0hn468 And you know America is in deep shit when you see it has it's own Nazi Party and The Proud Boys proudly representing Fascism.
slave owner Thomas Jefferson lmfao.
"Hong Kong people are to run Hong Kong" See now will these colonizers have the honor to say that about Africa?...
"The party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command." - George Orwell, “1984”
"We only care about the truth, not the facts". - Joe Biden
@@Yiran Read the book.
@@Yiran the party is basically the government that controls all information in the society
HK treats its elders and poor like shit though. If they actually cared about "The People Of HK" they need to increase wages 5 fold and make the affluent pay some real taxes because now they just spit on working class people.
@@dillonblair6491 - Death to neoliberalism!
Chinese citizens kind of "trade" their political rights and liberty for a better life, and they definitely get it. There are NO other countries that can improve the life quality of its people so fast in the world.
Still, Chinese citizens desire and fight for their political rights and liberty. However, they will NEVER NEVER give up their life quality for it.
So you see, before the HK riots, Chinese people complained to their government about the great firewall, financial scam, food safety and so on. But after the HK riots, they
put down the complaint and unit under the banner of CCP.
PRC will collapse. Like all comunist countries do.
Before you say it, I know 🇨🇳 is different, bla,bla,blah.
Actually the only thing those riots can do is to sacrifice themselves by ruining their own city, to unite amost all Chinese people from all over the world. CCP is very constrained and they did nothing wrong at all in this incident. The extradition law is not only righteous but also neccessary. It's nothing about human rights nor has it anything to do with ordinary people. It's just for felonies, murderers etc. Political and religious offenders are not inluded. All those claims of "oppression" and "violence" of the protesters are just from their suspisions and illusions. The fact is that they never happpened! They are just worried it is going to happen, without any evidence or facts! So they break into police office and congress hall, accuse the government for something they haven't done at all using violence, and beat police to a pulp. And they claim that Hong Kong is a city ruled by law, they don't want Chinese goverment to "interfere" their own law system. Excuse me?
@ You can continue having your day dream !
I mean china literally has a lower quality of life than in the US XD
@@littleknownperfection694Indeed, in some aspects, for now, the US is better. However, first, I said, "improve". China just has reformed and opened for 30 years. Check its economic growth, tech development and go see how its people living with your own eye. Because in some aspects, life in China is kind of unprecedented and unimaginable.
First is about public transit. It is so convenient that the car seems useless. high-speed railways take 1 hour from NY to Washington, D.C and cost about 10$. And try search any Chinese City name+subway map on google. The subway system in china is much more advanced, about 2 generations better than in the NY and boston. (Without a strong government those huge projects are impossible)
Second is about logistics. Demographic dividend greatly boosts the logistics industry, you can get things you buy from the internet in half a day (as long as you live in a big city) and ask delivery from a restaurant or supermarket in 30 minutes, and the delivery is usually FREE. (Without a huge population those Conveniences are impossible)
Internet industry grows fast samely because of the demographic dividend and a market protected by the government (Though I hate Google been banned in China) In cities like Beijing, Shanghai and Shenzhen many convenient shops stop receiving cash because they just need to scan your face. They start using 5G which could be faster than wifi. (Without an open mind about privacy and technology, the development of those techs are impossible)
Those things are what you could NEVER get in America.
we overthrew the commie gov here in Romania 30 years ago , it took effort from the whole country millions on the streets , nobody going to work , or using state companies, fighting agains our own military (then they joined in) but it the end it paid off , so i think hong kong can donit as well , it just takes perseverance!
@Jim Battersbee That's because our freedoms have never been threatened, you dumbass. In Romania 30 years ago you'd be killed and your family would magically disappear if you said something like that.
@Jim Battersbee Elect a Hillary and see what happens.
@Jim Battersbee Has their freedom been threatened though? They can express themselves as much as they want, they can borderline assault police officers without being shot, they can have firearms to defend themselves, they can believe in what they want to believe in. What universe are you living in?
No comparison. In Romania, the whole population, more or less, rose up against the government. Here, we are talking about one tiny portion of a massive country. The protesters need to compromise, but so does Beijing.
@@angryswede5050 Jim battersbee is in his own arse world.
Hey dear don't forget this was almost 2 months ago
No shit? This was uploaded in August....
Tony Lam no shit, mr obvious
your comment is 5 months ago
@@GlitchedBlox and yours is 2 months ago, don't be timist
When you see the 50cents criticizing what Hong Kong people do, I know we are on the right track.
I don't support hk mob killing each other. Please be on right track.
When the gov has to pay for support... HK should be made a city state and free from Chinese corruption
the other issue i think most companies and banks will leave HK as well people will take years to recover not to mention that current state of US and China relationship it will not improve
China will take over HK,soon! I don't see any other way out, they really want to indirectly hit the USA, i don't blame them on that point though. And I am 100% sure someone is funding these protests
@@retipserjayzoom you earned RMB 0.5 for your comment, you may leave now
Peterzog11 i
Economically, China doesn't need Hongkong at all, as Hongkong has an independent economy and doesn't pay taxes to China. But it is embarrassing China. But basically, Hong Kong citizens are ruining their own country in the short term.
@@dotmerah6713 You are a Chinese govt bot.
Its so commendable how the protesters despite having to face such pain are still not backing down!!!
Democracy is worth it....and so are the freedoms that come with it!
twenlil, u must b Chinese. I thought yall cannot watch CZcams. U need freedom to watch it. Or u go to Jail. Wait. R U VPNing? Even worse. They r gonna get u. Lol. No freedom in China what so ever
You really have no idea what this is all about. Why didn't anyone hear the voices of 7.3 million others? Because the media is manipulated
Don't get complacent, get to know China and its laws first. If you want to know China through western media, you will never know what China really looks like
AIRBORNE U.S. ARMY Idiot
+Anjali Singh
Or rather, the alternative is too horrible. It sounds as though Chinese totalitarianism has refined its methods since Mao, but it remains absolutely committed to evil. The 'communists' have no fear of God, and it says in the Bible that 'fear of the Lord is the beginning of wisdom.' Also the person who does not fear God will have a hard time loving other human beings made 'in God's image'. He will only be able to 'love' others in condition of total agreement with his agenda. Obviously human freedom is not possible under those terms.
Hong Kong never had "democracy", the English ruled it as a territory no voting for the Governor then, the Governor appointed key judiciary and government posts. The problem now is the people of Honk Kong are competing with the rest of China and they are losing the competition.
One of few comments points out the truth.
British time, HK also no right to vote for their governor and law makers, at least China rule time, law makers are voted by HK. Governor by HK, not foreigner.
So, China rule better or UK colonize better?
fuck u commie bot
@@okaysure915 unlucky you got colonised bitch
the truth
Free North Ireland, free Scotland, free wales
Speaking of which, why is Australia, a vast resourceful Continent in Asia-Pacific, only a few hundred miles away from South-East Asia had no Asian-Pacific Islanders in that vast land originally, historically inhabiting when Anglo British, some 10,000 miles away England, sailed half the world away, and looted in late 18th century? This doesn't make sense, since Asian-Pacific Islanders originally and historically inhabiting and residing in Pacific such as Guam, Tonga, New Zealand, Tahiti, Fiji and Hawaii? Speaking of New Zealand, why did these same Anglo British, sailed half way around the world and looted in late 18th century? Why didn't they occupy beautiful fertile Iceland, right above them just a short distant away, with hardly any people there? Google 'ASIANS, PIRATES AND BEARS/China Daily' for God's honest truth. blog.chinadaily.com.cn/forum.php?mod=viewthread&tid=711807
lol, maybe we should roll the tanks up to Carlisle and Bristol.
@@LCDH-jw5hi
Nahhh..u lost.
Face it n shove it in yr brain.
@@LCDH-jw5hi time for you Slavic migrants to go back to Russia from where you came to Europe.
That's ain't the same tho! It only counts when the media says so.
So the Brits left a mess for India and Hong Kong and can’t even handle their own shit with Brexit. Way to go Brits...SMH
A MESS you say, I say We left India within grasp of being a superpower which they did ! and Hong Kong a finacial power house, It is not a countries fault its human nature ! Power and Greed
@@stevegable2707 LOL, India a superpower??? hahahahha... a superpower who shits on the streets.... Hong Kong is nothing without China, all those financial stuff you are talking about? It is mainland China's money, not UK's.
@@XJLCA well said comrade....
@@XJLCA lol India can crush your country in a day you have not seen their army and missiles
XJLCA Hong Kong isn't anything without China? Ha, that's funny. Come here and take a look your self.
“你们把城市搞乱旅游业萧条，经济不行怎么办”
“你们转型？”
“凭什么转？”
“你有地吗？”
“你有产业吗？”
“你们连淡水都是深圳送的。”
这是那位在德国的小姐姐说的名句啊哈哈
@@xichenzhai5020 对!
CZcams上有这视频不，我想去看看评论
那不要送水給香港啊。?送的? 我們給天價 被迫要的
@@TheCheukhin 笑了，以为我们大陆的人想给你们送？中国的吸血虫，得了便宜还在这儿跟我赛脸呢？赶紧滚去你美国爸爸那里参加暴乱吧
Great video! Really well done!!
In the Hongkong topic, if a media mentions "autonomy", that means this media is probably trying to tell the truth from a mutual and sane standpoint, but if it says "democracy" and/or "freedom", then this media is most likely trying to use the simplest (so that everybody even the stupid ones can be well-received) yet emotionally cheerful ideology to justify things they politically support.
English is clearly not your first language. Chinese communist troll?
@@teekoh 对，应该用中文，这样美分就不会兴奋了
No idea what you wrote. What is the post quota for a Chinese Communist Troll anyway? Do you get coffee breaks or are you whipped if you try and take a piss?
teekoh Yes, obviously. Hongkong polulist?
NOMOREFISH you want to say polulist or populist? 🤷🏻♀️
1. Everyone has the right to express themselves, but who gives those thugs the right to occupy airports, hospitals, legislative yuan and disturb the quiet life of ordinary people? 2. Western media reporters only focus their cameras on the police. You can see the police chasing the thugs, but you can't see dozens of thugs beating up a lone Hong Kong police officer. 3. Independence is a crime in every country's basic law! What part of the country would like to be independent?
1. Thanks for understanding basic human rights, no one "gives" these people the right to do anything, they are free to do it. And they have to find the most effective ways to get their message across. Hey that girl that you've been crushing over for all this time, are you just going to sit at home and scream about it, or are you going to go to her and let her know? Same idea, hope you can relate to that analogy.
2. The cameras are on the police because they're the ones with guns and smoke bombs? Any damage inflicting aggression have been and will be initiated by them. I agree some protesters are angry and violent, but the majority of the clashes are police brutality.
3. Of course claiming independence is against the law in any country, it's called self interest and self preservation. Please name one Chinese dynasty that wasn't classified as outlaws by the previous dynasty that they took over. Mao and his group of villagers were all considered criminals in the 40s by the Republic of China, but now that the CCP controls China, they are not criminals anymore. It's just history repeating itself, don't be alarm.
--I love explaining things on the internet!
@@hosackies 1. you are free to let the girl know you like her but if you start harassing her or attempt to rape her, she is free to shoot you in the face. Hope you understand the analogy. 2. Too many HKs have already complained about the RIOTS, about businesses destroyed, their loved ones beaten up by THUGS IN MASKS, not the police. Journalism should be objective, and show violence on BOTH sides, instead of spinning the narrative. 3. I don't see the Economist supporting Ireland or Whales or Scotland and their quest for independence, even though british conquest was just as bloody and terrible as "chinese brutality". Wonder why.
better dead than red
but Red is color of good fortune, according to Chinese culture. Everything should be red.
so sacrifice to democracy
Morg8685.. Are u even a Hongkie? Or are u just a school kid, or a grown man living in ur mom's basement? 🙄
*THE LAST DOMINO, FALLS HERE.*
"But after 1997, Britain gave it back to China."Isn't that amazing, manipulate viewers with such a gentle touch?
OK Mr Beijing
@@juliuskingsley4434 Mr. FBI you are very corrupt. Please jail Hillary for bleaching the servers.
China mainland don't need to send any troop to crack down these riots. Something behind this will be disclosed in the end of the day.
@Feng989 are you chilled to face the coming truth? aha
Support HK like Yemen, Syria, Afghanistan, Libya and Egypt and they will all get prosperous!
hahahahahahahhaha
you are listing all the least prosperous countries
You must be brain washed by this video - czcams.com/video/eQJmTqiEAsk/video.html
Ah yes, the shining light of democracy and freedom, Yemen!
Do you know any history or research about events in any of those countries in comparison to HK, or are you simply comparing things at random?
By your standard of comparison, we should say that the camps in Xinjiang by your government is like the camps of Hitler. We should start a new war to deal with that then.
And no, I don't buy the nonsense excuse that these are 're-education' camps. There is plenty of evidence to the contrary, as there has always been for whichever 're-education' camp that pops up in Communist countries. If you object that they're all forged, consider the Soviet-era camps, which are documented by Soviet-era documents, recognized by Russians and written on by Russian scholars.
You seem to like saying things with no evidence. Is that what you did in school too - write random nonsense on an essay or exam? Where is this evidence that the US is funding the HK protests? Do you realize the events in Yemen, Syria, and Egypt involve millions more than the entire population of HK and of a much larger scale? If you believe what you're saying, which I doubt as it seems you're simply spewing nonsense, you should really say the US/UK should support HK more so they get more of the 'funding' that you claim to go elsewhere...
Oh, and if you say all my evidence is 'forged' or fake, then I can do the same thing and say whatever 'evidence' you have and walk away logically justified...
I stand with the ppl of Hong Kong
love black know your facts
@@joyjoyoo I do ,I said what I said
Then go buy some riot gear, don a black mask, and attack cops. Good news is you can probably get rock bottom hotel and plane tickets.
Lip service is like an asshole; it's full of shit.
@@DD-df5mi the people are just fighting back from the government trying to steal their rights and silence them. Are you Chinese?? Are you even Asian to judge these people??
Steve Fl Pubg I was born in Hong Kong and am half Chinese and half Vietnamese, though am an American. I know what democracy is, and the hypocrisy of it. What they’re fighting for is not democracy, it’s for separatism from China, Hong Kong’s parent. It would be like California or Texas trying to split from the United States. Doesn’t sound that appealing, does it?
Hong Kong is getting worse day by day.
@Dela Flowers "peaceful"...
That is separatist move and it's very violent.
@Dela Flowers they attacking police as well.
And why Russian letters? You see my picture?
@Dela Flowers also literally all Slavic countries except western Slavs.
Dela Flowers they beat up other peaceful civilians who simply disagree with their views?
Dela Flowers democracy? They beat up people who disagree with their view, is that democracy? If this is the democracy they want, they should go back to school.
The only thing i can say is HK is not the windows of mainland anymore, in current situation.
that old girl is living in the past.
XZGQ Liu girl？omit
@@xzgqcool4397 HK is a prostitute
@@xzgqcool4397 US,UK,JP all of them fucked her
Window or no window it doesn't matter. The hongkongers want the autonomy to run their lives
This is how you raid AREA 51....
Yiran D yeah but you gotta work on your grammar first
@@tamiltv7589 What is area 51?
@@QueenElsaVeganfromEurope It's like area 50 but more North
DO IT!!!! BYE BYE TO YOUR DUMB ASSES
That silly raid's motto of "They can't stop all of us" is very fitting for these protests.
I know this maybe awkward to say but may someone help me get the name of the music at 1:23 please ❤️
Thank you for this !!!!
Remember, Once you send the army. You are also basically saying to the world this is what you really are and you will never win the hearts and minds of the people in Taiwan
No need, there are military force of China in Hong Kong since 1997. But they are not policemen, so they don't show up now
its ok to deal with Taiwan without winning their minds
Oh thanks, Hanlin Liu... You have shown the people how HK n Taiwan don't wanna be under China... I see what U did there haha
Beck W you may falsely believe that the Chinese world is the entire world, but I suggest you walk out of your bubble and open your eyes to see how many people defy you
Beck W and why would I want to support the CCP anyways regardless of whether they deploy military troops? They are a dictatorship. A totalitarian government. I will never support communist party. I hope you understand we are not against the Chinese people, we are standing up against the CCP.
OK, good reporting, let’s take a look at the stories of Northern Ireland, Scotland and Catalonia.
I think they did. BTW, can the Communist party give hong kong people an independent referendum?
@@fatbinbin who did?
then why had a bloody civil war in American history, the southern part of united states should be independent.
@@jackytang3683 well, back then most Chinese still believe the world is flat. So, are you inferring that China didn't progress in the past 200 years?
@@fatbinbin so u can ask UK what they have done there
All they care about is money and not the people
@RKA That's the problem as us citizens are actually quite content and i am from London and voted Brexit but do you think the powers above will allow that as it will affect their interests and money. Everywhere around the World it is aabout Fvck the people and lets do whats best for the rich and the big business! There don't care what they do to society and how they rip social groups up
@tieuquy linthinh No.
@tieuquy linthinh You should visit China before making that comment. They are all about people. I used to live in mainland China for 2 years.
And the war mongering yanks are different ? I think not. Wake up Hong Kong you are part of China.
Errol Neptune yuck a brexiteer
Although they've lost their jobs, shops, roads, metro stations, universities, and tourists, THEY'VE GOT FREEDOM.
anything you used to ownand now has gone,where to live?Mars or Moon?
Freedom for Scotland !!!
God bless Scotland and Northern Ireland for independence
Freedom for California !
Wish Scotland get independence----from China😀
Stfu! You scots all bitch lmao leave if you want 😅
WE WANT INDEPENDENCE REFERENDUM FOR CATALONIA NOW
The thing is, HongKong is not like Taiwan that's separate from the communist country
but it's still bound to the 1 country 2 system agreement... the agreement beijing is now trying to rip.
@@gendoruwo6322 two systems until 2047. End of the day, HK will still become a communist state even if the HK government gives in today. Ultimately, these massive protests and disruptions are pointless.
@Oliver : the HK-ers have this to say "We know 2047 is coming. But we don't want 2047 'right now'. " .
Just because HK is destined to return to communist China anyway, does not mean there's no need to honor the 1-country-2-system agreement. In fact, honoring that agreement would go a very long way to showing the world the integrity and faithfulness of China as a great nation deserving to one day lead the world.
That's the problem with China's leadership isn't it? It seem to think any and all problems could be solved with guns and politics. Never any consideration for honor and trust. It never seem to be able to win hearts and minds, nor prove the fairness of its cause.
All they have to do is honor their promise, that's it.
But nope, they can't even do that.
This is why there's resentment and resistance towards China. Good luck trying to beat USA thus...
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I feel for the Hk ppl. China is a communist country and can change their mind whenever it wants to. This makes them completely unreliable.
If HK had a way to get out of 2047,these protests would be so much more meaningful.
But since this is inevitable, come 2047, the world will look back and wonder what difference did all these protest make. :(
@Oliver : the HK protesters said something like this too: "If we (HK) burns, you (China) will burn with us."
Perhaps they're indeed that pissed off they're willing to risk another Tiananmen.
can't help but imagine a human tragedy looming on the horizon...
if Hong Kong loses legal autonomy , then the lose of financial should fallow. no more leveraging the Chinese currency off Hong Kong. wonder what the truth behind that is????
Nothing will happen . the Hong Kong dollar can only be used in Hong Kong, so it will not have any impact on anything outside Hong Kong.
Imagen what will hapen if we have any kind of crises that will cause people to take to the streets.
China will crush islam eventually. Don't act like your Chinese if your not or lecture others about current events you know nothing about.
@@themogul5846 I did not say that Im Chinese or talk about China in any way. Also, I dont think what China is doing to Chinese Muslims is something to be proud about!
Before I went abroad, I didn't like the biased news in China. But now I realise that the media in western countries is doing the same thing. Glad that I can speak Mandarin, Cantonese, English and German, so that I can read news from different perspectives. News are overwhelming nowadays. Please don't be easily manipulated by one piece of news, just because it is consistent with what you have been told/learnt and what you have believed before.
Western media all one-sided and very biased. They want to spike on China.
So smart😍Thanks👏
What do they mean come back democracy? They never have democracy during british law. So what they meant by come back democracy ? Not like Britain gave you democracy anyway
@Michael Li Fake news. And what's your mother's surname?
@@battleforever8709 she don't have any ....
True,and as an Indian I recognise Hong Kong an integral part of China.
@Michael Li yes I get you .firstly, anyone can go back and say they considered or they" wanted to " but the end result is the same , they did not given to them . I mean china can say that the whole world is threatening them to give chinese people democracy . Also even if that is the case, they should say that they want democracy now and not "bring back democracy ". This is implying that because china rule . China taken what they had previously which is not true . Stop waving the colony flag and praise the british . They never do them better. If they want democracy , fight for something new.
@Michael Li Nice New York times link. No bias at all 😂
British need to send the navy in what on earth is happening!
China has broke the treaty in hand over we need to support them
I wish the west had the backbone to defend Hong Kong...
No one is strong enough to have a backbone except USA, which isn't interested in Hong Kong.
British need stay right where they are and stay away from foreign lands , you did enough already
@@averagecitizen863 Yeah, they need to focus on their own affairs, but they did make an example of HK and what western values can be compared to CCP.
@@MomsRavioli feels like they stripped the chineesness ( if that's even a word lmao ) out of HK in my opinion , but hey to each their own i guess
They're making Hong Kong Great Again. This is one thing I've seen American voters who are liberal and conservative agree on. #FreeHongKong
We're watching the situation in Hong Kong with great anticipation...
HOPE AND LIBERTY FOR ALL!
#FromTexas
What do you anticipate happening? I anticipate a lot of damage to Hong Kong's economy as investors move elsewhere.
@@Withnail1969 who cares?china is commie trash
If only they had guns to overthrow such a tyrannical government to begin with!
Britain should reconsider accepting refugees from Hong Kong.
Yes please accept all these rioter refugees and HK will be peaceful and prosperous again
@Kim Mcilwain But just like the US you've been the other Boogeyman that ruin nation's.
Nope, full up.
They’re your responsibility. Everyone looks to the US for leadership here but Britain is chiefly responsible for their welfare as their former colonial masters.
As such there's a border between China and Hong Kong. Deng saw this coming and spoke about it in private. China will leave this as it is and solve the problem in 25yrs.
1:44 "There's even a boundary between Hong kong and China..." British occupied Hongkong island and rented Kowloon, New Territories and Lantau islands from China.. Hong Kong consists of Hong kong , Kowloon, New Terrritories and Lantau, islands. (Wikipedia)
panchito fadera No, UK occupied Hong Kong Island and Kowloon while they only rented New Territories and other numerous islands. China is a part of Hong Kong, but at the same time, what makes both so different is the ‘One Country, Two Systems’ law signed for 50 years 22 years ago.
@@ch3ry11 "what makes both so different is the ‘One Country, Two Systems’ law signed for 50 years 22 years ago.
" The system will end in 2047 in accordance with Sino-Uk treaty in the light of the legal international concept of state territory and sovereignty.
Who the hell want to jump from democracy to dictatorship?
The Chinese government. People have no say in the Chinese communist party. Only the powerful political leaders decide. And for them to keep their wealthy, prominent, and powerful state, they give themselves more power, and give others less
mainland Chinese are genetically submissive. Mao did good selection job.
Democrats.
@何James An advanced and elaborate dictatorship...is still a dictatorship.
have a look at the HK‘ democracy，u like that？
Hong Kong people run Hong Kong.
yes,Hongkong People run Hongkong,But Hongkong is a part of China.Hongkong People must know.
Isn’t that a fact since 1997?
@@CFCsabah better than living under social credit system of ccp
shubham swaraj you know nothing about social credit system that China try to introducing...... you may want to go to China and live there for sometime then you would understand how safe China is
You only show what the police did. Not what “peaceful” protester did
That's ture. The "peace"protestors is brutal , but they don't say anything.
They are like that because China gave them that as their only option.
She was talking about"the rule of law".... it's a joke
It's a joke some people prefer live their life through the rule by law. I think you have never lived in a democracy before.
@@notahongkie Hmm, so in a decomcracy you don't have to live the rule of law. Hmm, interesting.
What about the Juliam Assange case???
@@notahongkie Its not only a joke but also shameful when someone say that they want the rules of law but do something totally opposite.
@@joyxing9340 You are wrong again. Pls go ahead arrest and charge those who broke the laws. Most people welcome this. But likewise pls arrest and charge those at the other side who broke the laws too. Cannot arrest and charge one side only. Do you understand this?
Actually Beijing has one more option, that is to let HK down sooner, and they've decided to do it yet. Hong Kong's economic boost in 20th century actually based on the separation between China and the rest of the world, so as a western city in the Eastern culture it quickly took advantage of factory resetting and a entry for foreign companies into mainland. But after one century of development, too much upper-classes running HK as their own city, the city now belongs to local rich. After the industry upgrading, now serve as a tourism and financial city, HK's economy relies too much on China just like every small country and region in East Asia, it's unique but not irreplaceable. Beijing may need to pay a lot in economy and politics and even authorities to replace Hongkong with Shenzhen or Shanghai, but sure it can. And that's a bigger crisis HongKong people will need to face in 5 to 10 yrs, much sooner than 2047.
Very well said. I frankly hope they do. They should let Hong Kong rot after this. These "protesters" are animals. Setting old men on fire and firing arrows at the Police officers. They are even practicing throwing firebombs in the university! Disgusting. It's terrorism.
When China decides on something, they will do it and nothing can stop them . Hong Kong thinks it is indispensable. You just wait and see. Beijing is already laying out plans. The writing is on the wall. Today they are protesting, tomorrow we will make them beggars on the streets.
@@Snakebloke Actually HK doesn’t have to be rotten, just the protestors needs to be arrested
It's amusing how this video focused more on the old establishment instead of the localists Doministos who are actually leading the fromtlines
freedom is not the reason to destroy Others' home
Despite that it's for the bigger picture as sad as it is
50 cents actually learn how to speak English, brilliant
@@yvesserpere lets see how ukraine became. a real tragedy after the "justice" "liberal" revolution.
@@yvesserpere theres no bigger future
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Bruce Lee, Jackie Chan is from Hong Kong
China n Hong Kong are Two different in mindset & cultural county .
China mainland run things through Military tyranny . Like North Korea . No culture . Just bombs and human torture .
Hong kong is colorful, modern & open .
Even in malaysia for example, you cant say people from the states of Kelantan has the same mindset of people in Kuala Lumpur .
We may live in one country, but we run our lives differently . One is super malay islamic & another is liberal & Progressive (cos in KL has more chinese & indian races thus, lesser racism cos we dont see colors anymore - New generation)
Hence, what really bothers me is that how human beings are trying to impose their “beliefs” and prosecuting each other is mental . We only have one planet which we cant run from. Can we make peace?
And funny how there is only few main snake heads who rule & is calling up the shots ~ that determines the lives of millions .
We Kill our own kind.
This video is obviously very ideological, rather than economic. Jost count how many times it used the word, "communist".
this is very Britain
I will never believe any information about CN from western country
very colonial mindset.
Because China IS a communist country.
@@TheAcadianGuy shhhh dont wake them,they need their 50cent.
People of Hong Kong: *protesting on the streets against communism and government oppresion*
Baizuo in the comments: *Ackchyually*
1N73RC3P7OR wow it took me a while to get this.
And here we have the proof.
@@dillonblair6491 we stop at 400 millions dislikes and 800 millions views.
But 'Baizuo' refers to Western liberals, the kind of people that would support the Hong Kong protests. The Western far left would maybe take the side of the Communist Party but they are in sync with Chinese nationalists and would not be derisively refered to as baizou by the nationalists.
@@NewLeftFun White left are communists and authoritarian just like the communist mainland.
Free Hongkong Free Korea
Hong Kong, Kashmir, Burma? One word 'Britishers'
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Israel and iraq as well as the middle east too
Aspero_YT When you introduce an invasive species into a brand new environment, chaos ensues. Mother Nature loves segregation. Humans are no exception.
Yellow ribbon means come back, come back to democracy? British Hong Kong was never a democracy.
Agreed. But I imagine Hong Kongers now looking back at the situation would say that there was a net benefit under British rule vs Chinese rule at the time.
@@devonrusinek5807 Then the window of Mainland China to the outside world would be Macau. Hong Kong wouldn't be the international city it is today, at least not reaching today's height.
Tianhao Liu Did the modern British, execute Chinese dissidents? Did the modern British harvest the organs of thousands of Chinese prisoners of conscience? You should think before you start pecking at your keyboard .
Tianhao you are a fucking idiot cheena is evil
@@devonrusinek5807 can you specify the net benefit?
where was Hongkong's democracy under British rule? the chief executive was always appointed by the queen. They hardly had any human rights. And when british ruled most of the land belonged to the british royal family.
Better some freedom in an autocratic government then living in a totalitarian system.
@@jonas8221 sorry, but the Hongkongers enjoy all sorts of freedom. Even without Universal Suffrage, Hong Kong people have a lot more freedoms than Singaporean people. The fact that the opposition members insulted China during their swearing in, and the fact that people so actively want to (literally) taint the Chinese flag, it just screams rebellious teenager to me. Where I'm from, all these people would have been arrested, tried and prosecuted by now. I have friends from the Mainland and from HK, and the Mainlanders think HKers are spoiled brats, and HKers are somewhat racist towards mainlanders thinking of them as second class citizens. It's just no good.
@@paulozhan respect for flag comes out of heart which you need to win that ccp certainly can't all they know is how to crush students with tanks like they did in teinnamen square
what are you talking about, hong kong under the UK had free markets, a free media, and people could freely voice their opinions without getting shot, it was nothing like china.
@@shubhamswaraj1557 there's protest against great Britain in Hong Kong and it was much worse than Tiananmen square since every protesters were killed and everything was forgotten
Hongkong has no freedom is the bigeast joke I have heard this year.
Excellent coverage.
Only report what police doing. Check it out what they doing for reporter and tourist. What the shame to Hong Kong
In addition, from all the videos and some news channels, even the blind can tell that the protesters (Rioters now) have SO MUCH FREEDOM as they can be seen setting fire on properties (ARSON), damaged the traffic lights, used dangerous laser to shine on the police, pulled off the very nice fencing in the cities, disturbed and intimidate the passengers, beat up journalist, etc........and which country will allowed all these to happen without taking extreme action. Think again!
Jessy Liew both the same. I can find the perfect one.
I STAND WITH THE PEOPLE OF HONGKONG
Pray that the struggle will bear the intended fruits ✌🏻
screw you ass
@@bowenthrob482 That's hawt.
so beside supporting, what can u do for honkong
Bowen Throb all I meant was that I support the activists who are fighting for their freedom
Shanshan Wang PRAY that what they are FIGHTING FOR bears fruit because if this is the way China handles its business then African Nations like Kenya 🇰🇪 we are doomed because we have a financial arm strong Loan of over $23.4Million dollars
So who made the border in the begining? Answer: British.
Did wanna say it but they're causing this problem and Brexit. Damaging Europe, Asia and international relations worldwide in the process
@@yuzhang6737 In 1842 it was ceded which means to give up part of China's then territory. So you think you should blame the US British when it was given to us? And you still hate any nation that has colonised another country even tho most of Europe and all the countries in it it if you go back far enough have at some point invaded/colonised other countries? So no, it is the Hong Kong government and communism that is the problem and I hope the protesters win
@@yuzhang6737 nope chinise fault final answer
@@yuzhang6737 Im sorry they created the most free economy for them
People shouldn't be afraid of the government; the government should be afraid of the people.
US POLICE: EAT MY FREEDOM BULLET.
What did Hong Kong do when it returned to China in 1997? Most schools are educating students to hate China, and there is no patriotic education in Hong Kong. Only Qiuguo Education. In contrast, Macao, returning to China in 1999, the same one country, two systems, Macao people have a high degree of governance and own laws, their own police, Macao passed the fugitive offenders regulations in 2009 and safeguarded Article 23 of the National Security Law, why Macao has no problem now, No one is engaged in illegal activities and sent to China?
What is Article 23 of the National Security Law? The Special Administrative Region should enact legislation to prohibit any treason, secession, sedition, subversion of the Central People’s Government and theft of state secrets. It prohibits foreign political organizations or groups from conducting political activities in the Special Administrative Region. It is forbidden to establish political organizations or groups of special administrative regions to establish contacts with foreign political organizations or groups. 》
Does your country not prohibit other countries from splitting your country!
However, the Hong Kong opposition has been opposed to this bill in 2003-2016. Why does the opposition object to this bill?
It has not been passed until now. It is obvious that Hong Kong is a place where there is no law prohibiting foreign forces from engaging in or helping to split the country.
They have the freedom to march, yes. However, most of the media you have seen are anti-China. Does the freedom of parade include beating the police, beating the public, destroying the public's vehicles, attacking the police's defense line, and preventing people's freedom of movement (Hong Kong airport incident) from being beaten by people with inconsistent political views? A Chinese tourist said that Mandarin was beaten for 4 hours and was dizzy. A reporter said that support for the police was beaten into a concussion
You can also see the demonstrators throwing bows, incendiary bombs, smoke bombs, baseball bats and other debris into the police. The Hong Kong police I have seen so far have been quite restrained.
No. The western government officials contacts foreign government officials freely and they are even encouraged to do so. That is the difference between democracy and dictatorship.
If it is true, please give the people of Hong Kong their identity.
It has already given! Chinese
Why only Hong Kong why not the whole China?
@Abhi Raj Because we can only give you thugs.
@Abhi Raj One day we will turn your country into communism
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Britain created hong kong democracy , so Britain should be negotiating for the best solution with china . britain has an obligation
Sadly, what I heard is there was no democracy in british Hong Kong. It was proposed in the 80s and 90s, but never implemented. And note that there was a leftist protest in 1967, where 51 were killed under british rule. I wouldn't say the brits did well in HK, but I'm not being pro-chinese either. After all, HK is a pitiful place.
brian beveridge British give Hongkong democracy? Go back to high school and take a history class u fucking moron
Sadly to see the movement going into such tragic end in November
The Opium war where HK was originally seceded to UK was fought because China was trying to stop UK from selling opium in China. This literal war on drugs was lost humiliatingly and you can bet that China never forgot it. HK was colonized under such unjust circumstances that there is not going to be any sympathy now for calls of independence or show of fondness for British rule.
I never understood why these HK protestors expect universal suffrage when they didn't even have that as a British colony. It's not something that they had and then lost. They didn't have it in the more freedom-friendly British rule, so needless to say they are not going to have it under Chinese rule.
The city has been facing many economic and social problems, including housing shortage and losing its financial center status, but this is where the leaderless protests fail, because they just know they're unhappy but can't articulate their real demands.
Also they have no sense of history, no sense of identity as Chinese.
They now welcome their foreign British oppressors for 15O years as their modern day liberators in the 2020s. And seeking the US help when the whole world knows how the US has invaded, enslaved and killed and exploited the countries in Asia, Far East, Europe, Middle East, South America, Philippines, Hawaii, Korea, Japan, China, Vietnam, Cambodia, Thailand, China, Carribean countries, etc. for decades and decades.
Yet, the uninformed HK protesters turn to the US as the saviour for democracy. Have these protesters gone mad? Can't they see beyond the slogans and face the real facts staring them in the face.
Sooooo because Britain sold Opium the Hong Kongers don't deserve basic human rights of representation? 50 cent army logic much?
They just forgot they speak Chinese, eat chinese, look chinese. Ahhahah.
So because they never had freedom, nor democracy gives them NO right to fight for it at all? What’s your point LOL!
Ed Hoosen They only represent US due to its democracy and freedom. The US would never get involved so I dont know what your point is neither.
I've been thinking that if the same thing with this magnitude happened on American soil, lethal forces might have been already deployed at a much earlier stage. After all numerous innocent people get killed every year by American police simply because one or two body movements look like they are reaching for a weapon that does not actually even exist, or because they're colored and thus 'naturally' more prone to be dangerous, etc etc. Whereas in Hong Kong, even with the protests elevated to such a degree that the public safety and normal order of the city have been greatly jeopardized, the kind of violent intervention of Chinese armed forces that everyone talked about has never materialized. Try this in America and see how it goes.
That's exactly what most of us silent majority believe in. These people are just hypocrites and glorified villains of the state.
It is universally acknowledged that many American Whites have double standards and hypocrisy.
Is democratic repression called repression?
RONG
THEY CALL ME BRUCE HAHAHA
I know this would not happen but if Hong Kong 🇭🇰 switched from Cantonese to English, it would separate Hong Kong from China even more.
Most Hong Kongers speak Cantonese and English, but it’s becoming harder because Mandarin is promoted more than the others
our government tries to kill Cantonese, they force a change in education to Mandarin to favour CCP
Cantonese is a dialect gosh
You do know cantonese is actually spoken by mainlanders too right? You do know it’s the native dialect of 10 million mainlanders in a province called Guangzhou, right?
Please tell me you’re not this stupid and ignorant. Please. 🤨
@@funniest_shit_ever So when someone is Chinese its okay to be racist? When someone is chinese they are instantly a fake account? You know, I support the protests but I guess since I'm chinese I'm brainwashed now?
1989 wasn't just students and it wasn't just in beijing
The reason for the failure in 1989 was the protestors not having the same voice. The Government was willing to talk and negotiate, but several groups were asking different things. The most important thing was that the students took extreme acts in the end which has never been reported in the western media.
Y F Chinese media didn’t even admit to the massacre and if they were right why didn’t they talk about it ?
@LagiNaLangAko23 no. color revolution. hear more voices. not only from its enemy
color revolution , Oscar BEST DIRECTOR AWARDS to US and the WESTERN .see what happened in USSR
@@yf3907 any source to back this claim please. I prefer to fact check myself like most of the rest of the netizens. Not just from what proChina claim and what antiChina claim. Facts like written article by a trustworthy source, verified video, confessions from Tiannanmen's surviving protestors AND serving military at the time. Just random claims are cheap and disgusting from either side.
Well i believe it's wrong to say there are no good choices. China can finally modernize itself and act like a true super power, caring and finding the best solution for all the people, everywhere. If they want to take leadership, they have to act accordingly. Maybe allowing Hong Kong to be what it wants to be would be the first step for China to become a true super power.
Florin Daniel Grăițaru does any superpower in this world allow one of its most important cities to be independent?
Did you learn history before ? Have you even seen a small city can stand away and keep alone from such big super power ? Please name one.
Has US ever allowed you to become what you want to be?
AKDGsonic
I mean the obvious difference is that the central government in America is much weaker than the central government in China.
Florin Daniel Grăițaru
Lol at thinking the CCP will modernize and possibly even democratize their state just because it’s the right thing to do.
Who is that guy with the glasses, the British one? Please help me!
@R868 that's why frontiers of some 100 millions has to rise and fight their government. 100 million citizens could technically topple any government.
Why do you have a cut in audio at 0:35?
China could build Shenzhen within 30 years to almost same as Hong Kong, so they can rebuild Hong Kong after it was tear down.
Shenzhen has already surpass Hongkong in many ways
Why bother build a city with nothing buy ungrateful terrorists? They’re killing them selves, I say we let them finish their job and build some other cities with actual human beings, not those violent animals.
@@xuanminglu1507 lol, i dont see any terrorist, just protester get beaten up by bullies with riot gears
China can build whatever they can , however, it wouldn't build the "trust" from global viewers.
Why can not you seen it?
Reginald Suryohusodo because you have only watched news from CNN or Fox News, and fed only one sided narratives which is the narrative of the countries that want to screw China like the USA, how objective can you possibly expect?
You can’t win with violence. You can only win when you maintain your dignity
wrong, revolution should be fought in blood not with flowers, especially with authoritarian regime!!!..And I know what I am talking about, france had made the revolution 200 years ago -1789- against the king and many many people died on the guillotine -lucky it happened so, we can live free tdy-; against tyrant, absolute power, dictator, revolution is bloody.
They don’t talk about hk manifestation in europ media or very less
And the peoples liberation army will be liberating whom? Deffinately not the people.
The majority of HK people. This anrchy has to stop. The extradition bill is already withdrawn. They should not keep asking for more by putting up this anarchy show.
@@hankyu4107 why? Did Mao march in to the palaces of imperial China and peacefully negotiate with them to create communist China? Why should the Hong Kong people not fight for what they believe in? Sad truth is, if you want to break from tyranny it never comes without a fight or struggle.
@@hashtag_thisguy No one want a war, OK? People have been living in peace for too long and forget what war is like. It will be horrible, many would die. And I can tell you for sure, these anarchists have no chance to win the war at all.
Just face the fact, HK is a SAR of China. That's all. If you people don't like it, just leave China. That is a much easier way.
@@hankyu4107 "if you don't like it, just leave" I bet you're privileged and don't understand the plight of the poor. Many struggle to afford housing in Hong Kong and you think it is easy to just up root and find a new country to live and build a new life? If it were a viable option I think many would leave, ironically I think most of the privileged people who don't like the direction HK is going are leaving, the ones privileged enough that they can turn up in a new country and buy houses or those who already send their children abroad for education, those people are leaving... But what of those that can't afford that, what do the poor do? They stay and fight, they don't abandon the place they call home.
@@hashtag_thisguy I totally agree with you with the housing issue. This is the real problem in HK but it is not in the so called 5 demands. I think people should focus on these practical issues.
In fact, many HK government have try to lower the housing price by building more, and what they get is riot. This riot happens right after Carry Lam decided to do land fill and build on them. Obviously, these riots are planed by greedy business guys, but this one has gone out of control. HK people should wake up and see they are fighting for their true enemy.
In my opinion, building houses are not enough, HK government should really stop immegration. I am from Macau, our immegration policy is really strict. It is just not reasonable to fit so many people in such a small city. Singapore has strengthen their immegration policy too.
As a citizen of a city also ruled by mainland China, I can tell you that it is not China who make HK people's life miserable, it is those greedy business man in HK. Stop being used by them anymore. This riot will make your life even worse. HK is losing jobs already. Focus on the real problem. Sincerely hope HK people will enjoy their life like Macau people do someday.
AS pointed out HK was more important in the past and in this demand for universal suffrage, the actors are seriously miscalculating their chances with bad consequences. The pro dem leaders can just leave with their foreign passports but the masses will be stuck in HK.
As if. Everyone’s being targeted and of course China will go for the leaders of the protests which is why 4 of them have been arrested just today, including wong who was attempting to go to Japan. Either they’ll turn up five months later on cctv at 7pm ‘apologising’ for theor actions or you’ll never see them again. Everyone will suffer rich or poor famous or unknown.
The woman politician wears a branded shirt while never join the riots haha.. 1million of 7 million is about 1 of hongkong wow.. That means every road will be full. Western media bullshit
The masses will stuck in hk? What we hv is money and money! We can go where ever we want!
@@chenghotung REally? Then what's the problem with HK? Why is everyone so unhappy?
Why you didn't mention what "protesters" have done to normal citizens and why US and UK support them?
It's good that you have VPN to justify CCP, right?
@@timurermolenko2013 1. Sorry I am in EU now and I didn't use VPN . 2. So what's wrong even if I use VPN? 3. What's wrong I am justifying Chinese issue as a Chinese ? So what about you ?
@@xuwang6612 obviously you wouldn't even be able to access CZcams without VPN in PRC. The thing is that this is a Hong Kong's issue, and PRC isn't keeping up with the agreement upon which they were given Hong Kong.
Timur Ermolenko that shouldn’t be the reason of violence, and the whole issue has already turned to terrorism attack, so many innocent citizens get hurt and even foreign visitors cannot go home because protesters block the airport
@@timurermolenko2013 Thank you for sharing you opinions peacefully. Every country has there issues, I accept your opinion. But please understand China has 1.4 billion people and 56 ethnic groups. To block different voices with bias and political motives, It's unfair to "freedom", but you have to admit that it good for China's development. I just wanna the social media do not be bias. Hongkong bring lots of benefit to China mainland but without China, HongKong can't be the most richest place in the world as well if you know the history start of First Opium War (Britain's invasion of China, 1840-1842). I just don't wanna people think attacking normal citizens and polices,abusing mainland journalists and make troubles to innocent people should be supported.
Wish you have a nice day.
FIGHT DEMOCRACY GET EVISCERATED BY THE PEOPLE
fight for freedom, stand with Catalunya, Scotland
@@borisliz9399 ...I'd love to see those places live without their main governments.
@@borisliz9399 加泰罗尼亚交超量的税，香港不交税，还辱骂排斥大陆中国人
Democracy means rule by the majority. This is only useful when free thinking people are able to be themselves.
People may ask, why we keep doing this.
We're fighting for our future, our democracy.
We can't be afraid now. If one comes out to speak, Hong Kong is basically done.
One giant shared rock floating through space.. ughh
Our rock is not all that big. In fact, it is pretty small. So small in fact that it cannot contain such competing ideologies as freedom v. totalitarianism.
just got to watch out for those gravity spikes from jupiter
Taiwan needs to open its eyes wide
Chine will just rip them out and the world will do nothing... all the world's rich love the Communist party. so much power to the elite... the western rich are jealous of the Chinese party... they wish they would just run over western protesters with tanks as well.
Taiwan is different due to the Taiwan. Relations Act with the US, and the US' allies in NATO and the EU, Japan, South Korea, Australia and India. The US has also been strengthening ties with China's biggest allies in Russia and North Korea.
So if China invades Taiwan, the US may also consider it an attack on the United States. Trump has affirmed his support of Taiwan, and affirmed his support of the Taiwan Relations Act.
But yes, if Xi is stupid enough to potentially start World War 3 by invading Taiwan, then Taiwan better open its eyes.
If I’m understanding this correctly, HK wants to maintain its own political system until 2046 and SUDDENLY, adopt the Chinese political system and becomes exactly like a Chinese city?!?!?!?! Is that even possible?
Scott Whatever But that would be against the treaty sign by China and Britain wouldn’t it? So HK wants to be independent like the confederate states of America?
@@michael1111111100 thats what I've been wondering. people are saying that the CCP is infringing on HK's rights but if the treaty is to be respected then it's supposed to happen anyway??
Plantoid Exactly. The one country two system policy is NOT a PERMANENT policy but a TEMPORARY one until 2047. After that HK will be just the same as any other cities in China (but with better and more advanced economic development). This is what the TREATY clearly said.
Where's Sam Fisher when you need him?
Bullying people who hold different political agenda is not what democracy. Hong Kong does not have democracy right now and it is not because of the system.
How is it not because of the system. Are you saying that it's not ok for HK people to protest for freedom and independence from china? That it's ok for China to attack/kill people that are fighting for freedom and independence? Guess you support the Tiananmen square massacre.
@@DjuraValtr Hypocrites lied to people in HK. Jimmy Lai and his media empire are abetting people to be radical anti-government rioters,and vilifying CCP as evil and dark. But on the contrary,in recent years,they have more and more democratic rights.They are not fighting for democracy and freedom,they just want to destroy people's trusts in police and bully people who have different political views just like the IRA did in northern Ireland,and their purpose is to build an independent state.
Fake freedom? Explain Tiananmen square then. Or did nothing happen there. I hope this becomes Tiananmen square 2.0 just to prove how shitty the Chinese government is to it's people.
Don't kid yourself lady. China can use Shenzen, Guangzhou, and Shanghai to trade internationally. And those cities economic output are already larger than Hong Kong.
If any of those cities could replace Hong Kong, China would’ve done so already! Obviously it’s not easily replaceable
@@dianacheung6915 Actually they have but not to the full extent, look at the volume of goods ship through Shanghai, and Shenzen, it exceeds Hong Kong. Also look at domestic and international investment through Shanghai, it greatly exceeds Hong Kong. And if Hong Kong continues to act this way, China will just refuse flow of capital and goods through Hong Kong, crippling their economy. Hong Kong makes nothing, and with this madness even Tourism is at risk.
What is the situation in Taiwan ??
If hong kong people think they r not china ... Stop doing all things under chinease banner. Be free ... Keep own free soul existence
That lady: HK is a window for China?? Say what ?? Maybe 20year ago. Anyway, You can march or protest or fasting anything you want but don’t be violent , don’t hurt the innocents. What Most people want is stable and secure and you are breaking it for them.
It's weird to me that they are OK with the 2047 prospect, but are so intent on maintaining democracy for the interim. I can't imagine the next generation of Hong Kongers being OK with the hand-over.
U need not worry as China is doing so very well in every areas. Its not for anyone to judge.
@@jessyjames9242 Any government that abuse human rights & their supporters should be judged.
Z Z i think its also the realization that 2047 is going to happen anyway. But Ive seen other videos that this one didnt touch up on. Since within the recent decade the pressure from China was growing, fighting now can not only hopefully slow it down... but hope to completely break 2047 for not happening at all. They know it’s coming but it’s fight now, so it will never happen in 2047.
Which you know... China won’t care and will make it happen anyway 😅
I don't find it weird, they had a deal, and they are not ok with 2047, but until then they should have the rights promised. It's like an apartment lease, why get kicked out early when you singed for a year and did nothing wrong.
@@razwankhan2196 are you judging the u.S with their trigger happy cops who have a license to kill?
“Democracy is a con game. It’s a word invented to placate people to make them accept a given institution. All institutions sing, ‘We are free.’ The minute you hear ‘freedom’ and ‘democracy’, watch out… because in a truly free nation, no one has to tell you you’re free.“
Jacques Fresco, born 1916~died 2017.
"The reason why democracy constantly touts about it's freedoms is because everyone who who has searched for freedom knows it is not a right that is given but taken from those who would rather have the monopoly on it. Freedom requires an unbending attitude and sacrifice in order to be maintained, and those who would vilify it are either in the business of undermining it or have completely forgotten what was lost in order to attain it." Me, 10/15/19.