Are Hong Kongers British Citizens?

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  • @PolyMatter
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    • @matias7152
      @matias7152 Před 4 lety +22

      ok

    • @flashnimator5025
      @flashnimator5025 Před 4 lety +16

      ok

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      @al_caponeh6185 Před 4 lety +4

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      @tazimrahbar7882 Před 4 lety +4

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  • @TheBunnyYT
    @TheBunnyYT Před 4 lety +2230

    Any border dispute in the world-
    Britain: uhhh... so yeah... bye!

    • @thestoic4629
      @thestoic4629 Před 4 lety +11

      fActs lol

    • @vtron9832
      @vtron9832 Před 4 lety +186

      Britain is to its colonies the way a douche boyfriend is to his girlfriend: swoop in, get benefits, leave.

    • @iumasz6088
      @iumasz6088 Před 4 lety +87

      Thats 20th and 21th century Britain.
      19th and 18th century Britain would be like
      "whats that my good chap, a border dispute with the indigenous population?"
      *Colonisation* *intensifies*

    • @edwardvictorau
      @edwardvictorau Před 4 lety +1

      I agree.

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian Před 4 lety +35

      @@vtron9832 And British colonies are largely better than the colonies of other countries.

  • @napoleonibonaparte7198
    @napoleonibonaparte7198 Před 4 lety +1894

    Person to HKer: Are you a British citizen?
    HKer: Yes but no.

    • @alcabone1126
      @alcabone1126 Před 4 lety +59

      They are not citizens(allowed to live in the uk permanently) but nationals i think

    • @Rakinjo2
      @Rakinjo2 Před 4 lety +16

      @@alcabone1126 They are by definition not citizens if they cannot vote.

    • @priyanshu1074
      @priyanshu1074 Před 4 lety +34

      Yesn't

    • @israellai
      @israellai Před 4 lety +59

      It's a clear no. We're nationals, not citizens. We can, however, vote in the UK, as commonwealth citizens. Not even EU citizens can do that (before Brexit).

    • @markonikolic7957
      @markonikolic7957 Před 4 lety +37

      @@israellai why would you even write that last sentence lol. Ofcourse someone from Germany couldn't vote in UK, even before Brexit. EU is just a trade and economic union, nothing like a country.

  • @duoslinger4325
    @duoslinger4325 Před 4 lety +363

    13:19 Hongkongers didn't make Cantonese the language of Chinatowns in San Fransisco, and most older Chinatowns. The original immigrants to other countries like the US were all from Canton. San Fransisco's had Cantonese immigrants since the 1850s. The Hongkongers just moved from one Cantonese speaking place to another.

    • @pascallaw5909
      @pascallaw5909 Před 4 lety +36

      HK was basically a fishing village back then when the California Gold Rush started... And Canton used to be the only one Chinese port that was open to the outside world in Qing Dynasty, so most of the immigrants to California were Cantonese-speaking Cantonese (or from nearby counties) back then.

    • @DaneGilCabrales
      @DaneGilCabrales Před 4 lety +17

      Manila Chinatown, the oldest Chinatown in the world is mostly not speaking Cantonese but Fookienese
      Source: Me, a person living near the oldest Chinatown in the world

    • @kitwan9364
      @kitwan9364 Před 4 lety +7

      @@pascallaw5909 fookien is a made up word, made by CCP, using mandarin pingyin. The real word is hokkien or hokkienese

    • @dddddd2872
      @dddddd2872 Před 4 lety +22

      kit wan I’m from Taiwan and I speak Hokkien, but Fookien is not pinyin nor made up by the CCP

    • @JKMT
      @JKMT Před 4 lety +19

      @@dddddd2872 Fookien is Cantonese pronunciation of Hokkien

  • @edwardvictorau
    @edwardvictorau Před 4 lety +1086

    Very good timing for this clip, when Hongkongers are worried about their passports and identity.

    • @SW-8228
      @SW-8228 Před 4 lety +12

      Ed I’m worried because UK and HK are quite in not so good relationships and what am I? Well the previous 2 places I just named.

    • @SW-8228
      @SW-8228 Před 4 lety +11

      UK Politics And His Opinion 3 million is an over statement. The UK has a housing crisis.

    • @alfredthegreat194
      @alfredthegreat194 Před 4 lety +2

      UK Politics And His Opinion we are already a full country. Our ecology is dying. Building housing and more infrastructure would be a disaster.

    • @0utd0wns0uth
      @0utd0wns0uth Před 4 lety +31

      The City of Hong Kong deserves independence; watching this city-state slowly die from Chinese invasion is heartbreaking as a British citizen

    • @danieljohnson4994
      @danieljohnson4994 Před 4 lety +7

      @@SW-8228 I don't think you understand the housing crisis it not because there isn't enough houses there is it's the facts that theres not enough social/affordable houses for low income workers

  • @on99kfc
    @on99kfc Před 4 lety +150

    As a HongKoinger, and one of the 50000 families who got the British Citizenship, I love the last line of the video.
    We love our city and our way of life, and want to stay here as long as possible, yet Hong Kong is a place on borrowed time.

    • @harry12
      @harry12 Před 4 lety +2

      do u still have HK SAR passport?

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 Před 3 lety +10

      It always was, wasn't it? Even if Hong Kong stays static, the world around it is constantly changing. The "get rich quick" 1980s was just a fluke in history--China doesn't need HK to export its goods anymore.
      The good thing is, if we work hard and do good things (rioting is not a "good thing"), we can give Hong Kong a breath of new life. The past is gone, and the future is what we make of it.

    • @lrt_unimog8316
      @lrt_unimog8316 Před 2 lety

      Another BC👋

    • @nmslese
      @nmslese Před 11 měsíci +2

      @@canto_v12 "rioting", ha~

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 Před 11 měsíci +1

      That borrowed time is up.😔

  • @AverytheCubanAmerican
    @AverytheCubanAmerican Před 4 lety +633

    China: How much content do you want
    PolyMatter: Yes
    Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall

    • @williamzhu7845
      @williamzhu7845 Před 4 lety +59

      @@labadaba5088 wrong date, try May 35th

    • @alancheung4977
      @alancheung4977 Před 4 lety +4

      Kim Jong-un will not like this ...

    • @KinkyLettuce
      @KinkyLettuce Před 4 lety +21

      @@labadaba5088 tiananmen is June 4th

    • @gsacelm7753
      @gsacelm7753 Před 4 lety +8

      Why do I find you everywhere

    • @brennencox516
      @brennencox516 Před 4 lety +11

      "Also, that’s Tiananmen on the passport, not the Great Wall"
      Tianmen Tower, to be precise.

  • @kwanlinus6999
    @kwanlinus6999 Před 3 lety +98

    13:37 This is the case with the Hong Kong Chief Executive currently, Carrie Lam. She works as the CE, but her husband and two sons reside in the UK and hold full UK citizenship and passports.

  • @f1sh98
    @f1sh98 Před 4 lety +486

    Small correction, at 7:40 you say they mention the same Great Wall, I believe the Chinese emblem is the Tiananmen, the large gates entering the forbidden city

    • @chucklebutt4470
      @chucklebutt4470 Před 4 lety +22

      Yup, the "Gate of Heavenly Peace". I wish there was more liberty in modern China. I'd love to actually visit there.

    • @krioni86sa
      @krioni86sa Před 4 lety

      How many people live there?

    • @NicholasMarkovich
      @NicholasMarkovich Před 4 lety +4

      He says the same national emblem *and* illustration of the Great Wall, which is *inside* both passports.

    • @dan339dan
      @dan339dan Před 4 lety

      The great wall is the background illustration on each page of the passport.

    • @martiddy
      @martiddy Před 4 lety +1

      @@chucklebutt4470 Quite ironic name since it's located in front of the Tiananmen Square.

  • @eustache_dauger
    @eustache_dauger Před 4 lety +396

    3:10 transfer of sovereignty to an existing country, instead of full independence also happened to the Crown Colonies of North Borneo, Sarawak and Singapore in 1963 when the three territories were given away to the main British ally in Southeast Asia, the Federation of Malaya. Whereas a referendum was conducted in Singapore in 1962, no such referendum was conducted in both Borneo colonies.

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 Před 4 lety +8

      Sarawak became independent on the 22nd of July 1963 then joined the Federation on the 16th of September of the same year.

    • @eustache_dauger
      @eustache_dauger Před 4 lety +49

      @@eugeneng7064 22nd July marks the date of attaining self-governance, not independence. There are differences between "self-governance" and "independence." Singapore attained self-governance in 1959, but they're still not independent until 1965. The Federation of Malaya attained self-governance in 1955 (when the Alliance won the 1955 election) but only achieved independence in 1957. Independence confers sovereignty, which is best demonstrated through control of security & defense, as well as capacity to conduct diplomacy with other sovereign foreign states and international organizations. Sarawak has neither of the two since 1946.
      If possible, you may refer to the telegram dated 1st September 1963 from Lord Selkirk to the Colonial Office, which states among other thing
      a. The grant of independence to a territory under British sovereignty requires an act of Parliament at Westminster.
      b. That the British Malaysia Act provides for the transfer of British sovereignty over Singapore, Sabah and Sarawak to the new Federation of Malaysia *but does not provide for the separate independence of these territories.*
      In 1966, Singapore retroactively received its Singapore Act 1966 from the Parliament of the United Kingdom, therefore fulfilling item "a" as mentioned above.

    • @eugeneng7064
      @eugeneng7064 Před 4 lety +6

      @@eustache_dauger hmm. Good to know. Thank you

    • @risannd
      @risannd Před 4 lety +8

      Not much later, Indonesia was outraged and set an invasion, which they lost.

    • @sardosam_
      @sardosam_ Před 4 lety +7

      @@user-op8fg3ny3j brunei was always and still is a Sultanate, isn't it?

  • @eugeneng7064
    @eugeneng7064 Před 4 lety +691

    Pretty sure the image at 7:40 is the Gate of Heavenly Peace, aka Tiananmen, not the great wall.

    • @stanislaviliev6305
      @stanislaviliev6305 Před 4 lety +46

      Probably cause it was less bloody

    • @alexlee7168
      @alexlee7168 Před 4 lety +5

      @@stanislaviliev6305 damn just like that, true tho

    • @raymondlaw5258
      @raymondlaw5258 Před 4 lety +12

      The same Tiananmen where the protest for freedom were supported by Hong Kongers, and were masscared by China

    • @campkira
      @campkira Před 4 lety

      hence why they gave NGO passport so people had a choice and ability to get out of the country in case worse thing happen is the foolish kid who think... this is my home i will stay...and fight the biggest goverment in the world whoese record is know to do evil shit to people who go against them...

    • @PolyMatter
      @PolyMatter  Před 4 lety +157

      The Great Wall illustrations are *inside* the passports, but both passports have a national emblem.

  • @hgos7211
    @hgos7211 Před 4 lety +380

    12:24 Wow, never thought I'll be able to see my housing estate in a CZcams video.

    • @ckc985
      @ckc985 Před 4 lety +3

      Where's that?

    • @davidscutar1403
      @davidscutar1403 Před 4 lety +24

      @Hgo S stay safe

    • @alancheung4977
      @alancheung4977 Před 4 lety +4

      Same in that exact clip i saw my home

    • @hgos7211
      @hgos7211 Před 4 lety +22

      @@ckc985 Search "Tseung Kwan O". You'll be able to recognize the canal on Google maps.

    • @hgos7211
      @hgos7211 Před 4 lety +31

      @@davidscutar1403 It's generally a pretty safe city. I'm not a part of the protests.

  • @doubledeckyomom
    @doubledeckyomom Před 4 lety +186

    "British plan to move Hong Kong to Northern Ireland"
    The cheek 😂

    • @user-nf9xc7ww7m
      @user-nf9xc7ww7m Před 4 lety +22

      That actually has been done before by various countries to dilute a province's native population, particularly when the natives despise the "foreign" govt.

    • @lorili6885
      @lorili6885 Před 4 lety +2

      Ur not welcomed, get back to China!

    • @mikeoxsmal8022
      @mikeoxsmal8022 Před 4 lety +30

      @@lorili6885 the brits already did that to northern Ireland before, that is the reason ni is even still brittish

    • @oakoakoak2219
      @oakoakoak2219 Před 4 lety +1

      @@mikeoxsmal8022 Yeah, the protestant population was there to maintain the union

    • @liuzeyuan
      @liuzeyuan Před 3 lety +1

      Moving Asians I mean not whites to Ireland? Lol effing bs

  • @saggalousmmwamow9069
    @saggalousmmwamow9069 Před 4 lety +43

    As a native Hong Konger, I'd say this video is a very well made one with very thorough understanding of the situation. Thank you for the useful and informative video.

  • @mpch3743
    @mpch3743 Před 4 lety +117

    10:04 Fun fact: they tore up an expired BNO passport

    • @tristanlau1213
      @tristanlau1213 Před 4 lety +59

      And the corner was cut, that means they renewed the BNO passport as well lol

    • @hkbazinga1283
      @hkbazinga1283 Před 4 lety +53

      How do I show my loyalty to China but play it safe at the same time?
      Tearing up expired and corner-cut BNOs.

    • @owencheng523
      @owencheng523 Před 4 lety +5

      To also persuade others to tear up tears,in order to reduce the number of rivalry for him.BTW for 大波Man as we no he is definitely a police(got knee knocked lol) but judging by his attitude, and his fame and popularity within this incident he is more likely focused on his own personal insurance of safety for him and his future or family perhaps.Yet as we can see judging by the fact as a police he can’t receive any bribe from any,suggesting he won’t benefit except infamy from the incident.So it’s better for him to play safe is he really committed to the cause as it benefits himself,or is he actually hiding behind this camouflage and what he really care is his own survival.well anyway ladies and gentle man wat have been shown is a weakness,and yet how many individuals that have a BNO is only a handful compared to the majority of population today.They either are the ruling classes that benefits from the regime,or either they are going to play it safe judging by their minimal age.Finally to those lucky individuals(judging by ur own point of view) we all may have different cards own our hands as individual,but wat I can only say by now is play your cards wisely it’s better to take a shoot when u got a clear view of the situation.

    • @p8p877
      @p8p877 Před měsícem

      Expired BNO passports are still eligible for re-application

  • @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un
    @SupremeLeaderKimJong-un Před 4 lety +242

    13:03 What happened to my peninsula

  • @xxyanlixx
    @xxyanlixx Před 4 lety +35

    I'm from Hong Kong, I'm learning so much about our SAR. Thank you Evan :)

    • @Rey-lg8sx
      @Rey-lg8sx Před 2 lety

      You have national identity different in mainland China.

  • @mchmchminecraft1637
    @mchmchminecraft1637 Před 4 lety +77

    Those who torn their BNO in front of the British Embassy had their passport already cut in corner in 09:59

    • @ddnn974
      @ddnn974 Před 2 lety +3

      Those just clowns

    • @berniethekiwidragon4382
      @berniethekiwidragon4382 Před 11 měsíci

      They don't pledge loyalty to China or the broader Chinse People. They are just sycophants to the perpetually insecure control-freak rotting undead corpses who are sitting in Zhongnanhai in Beijing.

  • @parcoli1311
    @parcoli1311 Před 4 lety +381

    As a Hongkonger, the closing remark choked me up.

    • @shawnli9284
      @shawnli9284 Před 4 lety +1

      Parco Li why you chose overseas

    • @Sinaeb
      @Sinaeb Před 4 lety +46

      @@shawnli9284 Can't choose where you are born

    • @parcoli1311
      @parcoli1311 Před 4 lety +35

      Shawn Li Sorry, I cannot comprehend your question.

    • @Edoardo396channel
      @Edoardo396channel Před 4 lety +29

      Good luck with your freedom 💪

    • @infinitecanadian
      @infinitecanadian Před 4 lety +32

      I sympathize with Hong Kong.

  • @Clozi6
    @Clozi6 Před 4 lety +8

    Thank you for covering Hong Kong! This was much needed.

  • @recnemorcen
    @recnemorcen Před 4 lety +79

    13:45 "Such is the predicament of Hong Kongers. They love their city, their language, and their way of life. They want, above all else, and as long as possible, to stay. And yet, they also know these things are temporary."
    As a Hong Konger, these words cut so deep that they actually brought tears to my eyes...

    • @HT-jy7dv
      @HT-jy7dv Před 3 lety

      I mean Hong Kong hasn't changed... But sure whatever.

    • @Perririri
      @Perririri Před 3 lety

      It will all be over in 2047

    • @martinmendl1399
      @martinmendl1399 Před 3 lety +4

      @@Perririri Its already over now. Hongkong has become a dictatorship last year. China broke the agreement.

    • @Brybao
      @Brybao Před 3 lety

      Hong Kong will still have culture after China takes it...? Cantonese culture itself isn’t even native to Hong Kong lol so I wonder how Hakka felt before this. People seem to think Hong Kong is the only Cantonese place in China and forget Guangdong exists lol

    • @crodsbye
      @crodsbye Před 3 lety +5

      ​@@Brybao Cantonese spoken in Guangdong is slightly different to that of Hong Kong. Guangdong Cantonese consists of more mandarin-derived vocabulary and noticeable differences in vowel placement, many youths in Guangdong also have a stronger mandarin accent due to education there being entirely in mandarin. Hong Kong Cantonese has more English loan words and we generally sound angrier. It's similar to the differences between Austrian and Standard German.

  • @thisshouldbecensored4504
    @thisshouldbecensored4504 Před 4 lety +189

    I would just like to say thank you for that ending, as a Hong Konger, it really did hit me hard :')

    • @nicholaslau3194
      @nicholaslau3194 Před 4 lety +29

      Same here. Stand with HK

    • @andison627
      @andison627 Před 4 lety +8

      Same here bro.

    • @VisibilityFoggy
      @VisibilityFoggy Před 4 lety +14

      What are you planning to do? How can one plan his life in Hong Kong - a mortgage, starting a business, speaking freely - knowing that an evil dictatorship could come in at any second? I'd be trying everything I could to escape.

    • @isaacwong1465
      @isaacwong1465 Před 4 lety +7

      me too as a HongKonger

    • @canto_v12
      @canto_v12 Před 3 lety +4

      @@VisibilityFoggy Sorry, the "evil dictatorship" came in in 1997. You're 23 years late. Meanwhile, what you *can* do is make the best of what you have, and once China is convinced you've settled down, they actually give HK a LOT of leeway.

  • @KeKNine
    @KeKNine Před 4 lety +165

    11:06 this dude has some big ass shoes

    • @rosssyr
      @rosssyr Před 4 lety +7

      Fill them with gravy

    • @groundsalt2199
      @groundsalt2199 Před 4 lety +8

      I read this as ass holes lmao

    • @yuetchuen
      @yuetchuen Před 4 lety +1

      @@groundsalt2199
      I read this as big ass holes shoes lmao

    • @liam-man7265
      @liam-man7265 Před 3 lety +1

      He must be the real Bigfoot.

  • @xxyanlixx
    @xxyanlixx Před 4 lety +180

    There are so many sentimental resonance that connect with me on this video:
    1. My mother is one of those who obtained British citizenship under the 50 thousand citizenship grant scheme.
    2. My uncle, who was a BNO holder, feared the CCP, sold his two apartments in Pok Fu Lam (upper-class neighborhood) and fled to Vancouver to obtain a Canadian citizenship. Granted, he came back to Hong Kong but the housing price rose so much he now cannot afford to buy a home here.
    3. My father, who's a US citizen, in contrast, did not see CCP as a threat and stayed in Hong Kong to continue with his business, invested more in the property market and has seen his net worth rose year by year. He is constantly considering to surrender his US citizenship to obtain the Hong Kong SAR passport.
    Going forward, the BNO situation doesn't affect me at all. But through the grapevine, it's been said the parents of the post-97 born protesters would settle in UK first to gain full British citizenship, then bring their children over afterwards, creating another type of "astronauts". However, this major decision varies between families.
    I love that you cover Hong Kong and China so much. Would be happy to donate a sizable amount if you have a patreon account.

    • @laod7192
      @laod7192 Před 4 lety +1

      Thanks for sharing!

    • @xxyanlixx
      @xxyanlixx Před 4 lety +1

      Chenxing Li $50/video :)

    • @chunchoi4434
      @chunchoi4434 Před 4 lety +3

      You might want to tell your father that you can't have both a Hong Kong passport and a u.s. passport. No surrender necessary.

    • @harry12
      @harry12 Před 4 lety

      so how many passports do u have? US? UK? and HK SAR?

    • @holycow343
      @holycow343 Před 4 lety +16

      Some people just value political freedom more over economic stability and vice versa. HK People who are fearful of losing political freedom should just leave HK why cause trouble for the ones who don't mind sacrificing a little bit of political freedom for economic stability. To those people who think China will give up land so that HKers can be independent are extremely naiive.

  • @samarthrao3793
    @samarthrao3793 Před 4 lety +1

    it’s so cool watching these videos after watching your skill share course

  • @s070076100
    @s070076100 Před 4 lety +38

    Really appreciate your effort into introducing Hong Kong to the English speaking world !

    • @shrewdguy4916
      @shrewdguy4916 Před 2 lety +3

      I would say most British people know the situation in Hong kong

  • @16Gym
    @16Gym Před 4 lety +193

    Those BNO changes are not confirmed yet.
    Also, the majority of young protestors will be left out, which doesn't help the situation at all.

    • @04nbod
      @04nbod Před 4 lety +27

      We really should re-open applications for it. If the children of the people in 1997 could access it, it would raise that percentage considerably. But a mass exodus won't help Hong Kong. It will just remove opposition. Our actions need to be focused on getting China to back off

    • @rei_cirith
      @rei_cirith Před 4 lety +19

      Depends what they do about family of BNO holders. Hopefully they'll figure something out. Honestly, after BEXIT, the UK could use professionals from Hong Kong.

    • @ZeBanded
      @ZeBanded Před 4 lety +2

      that said, its still in an early stage. things could change

    • @tylerliu2632
      @tylerliu2632 Před 4 lety +13

      all those countries and people who say that they care about the hker's freedom, have done little to nothing other than just sayin stuff. when it comes to actually doing things they are useless

    • @garmenlin5990
      @garmenlin5990 Před 4 lety +1

      The only thing it helps is lowering the housing prices

  • @kevinlau7780
    @kevinlau7780 Před 4 lety

    Thank you for spreading information about this issue. Great video👍🏻

  • @MrE03
    @MrE03 Před 3 lety +1

    Thank you for making videos on such important topics. Subscribed!

  • @mrtek8095
    @mrtek8095 Před 4 lety +9

    Finally, a new Polymatter vid! Pls upload more, your vids are great!

  • @ultearmilkojohn1145
    @ultearmilkojohn1145 Před 4 lety +39

    7:30 the national emblem features an illustration of Tiananmen Gate, the entrance to the Forbidden City, not the Great Wall as stated

    • @FrozenBusChannel
      @FrozenBusChannel Před 4 lety +3

      I think he's mentioning the Great Wall graphic on the inner page?

  • @10230691ust
    @10230691ust Před 3 lety +1

    very insightful video clip, useful and thought provoking , particularly for those ppl in hk who are uncertain about their future

  • @yiliang9085
    @yiliang9085 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for covering the issue!

  • @user-fp1go9fl7n
    @user-fp1go9fl7n Před 3 lety +7

    Thanks for the video. I've lived in Hong Kong for wonderful 4 years and loved every moment of it. The way its amazing mix of people and freedom back then was unlike anything I've seen. I hope they find their freedom soon.

  • @NicholasLeung_nktleung
    @NicholasLeung_nktleung Před 4 lety +12

    Thank you for such a detailed analysis. As a Hong Konger who has 3 passports, 2 homes and one of the weirdest identity in the world, I was touched.

  • @horchan1216
    @horchan1216 Před 4 lety +1

    Great research done for this video, and great timing as well!

  • @mdgun
    @mdgun Před 4 lety +1

    Good job, this is very well researched and up to date

  • @thomastang6272
    @thomastang6272 Před 4 lety +116

    I was born a British Citizen in HK but now i am US Citizen. We left in 1980's and never returned. My mom has BNO and never applied for me due to that I was a minor. We became US Citizen long prior to 1997 handover anyway.

    • @garrettzucker2894
      @garrettzucker2894 Před 4 lety +39

      You sir are very lucky right now

    • @ckc985
      @ckc985 Před 4 lety +24

      weird flex but ok

    • @aaryt
      @aaryt Před 4 lety +37

      He lives in the country owned by corporations/lobbyist, plagued with racism, obesity epidemic, expensive healthcare, has a comedian leader named Trump, who's infrastucture is disintegrating, shrinking middle class, has more than a trillion debt to China, funds wars every decade or so. I wouldn't call that lucky.

    • @lennartherix6872
      @lennartherix6872 Před 4 lety +54

      @@aaryt Still better than fearing about your freedom

    • @gebys4559
      @gebys4559 Před 4 lety +4

      My friend didn't get it as his parents couldn't be bothered to apply for him. He studied in UK and with BNO could have likely extended it to full citizenship, but had only HKSAR so had no such option despite living there for several years.

  • @tomlam8684
    @tomlam8684 Před 3 lety +42

    The fact that the youth in Hong Kong fought so hard in 2019 only gave a chance for older generation to get their UK citizenship. Most of them even supported HK gov for their anti democracy move.
    That make me sad.

  • @jimyu9147
    @jimyu9147 Před 4 lety +1

    Wow, this is a really well researched video. Amazing channel.

  • @dylreesYT
    @dylreesYT Před 4 lety +1

    Amazing video, well done and thank you

  • @zeqi
    @zeqi Před 4 lety +7

    We learn more about the world and useful information from a single 15 minute video by Polymatter than a whole day in school

  • @brycem1207
    @brycem1207 Před 4 lety +17

    Probably one of the best channels in terms of content on and about China 👍🏽

    • @kingpak1325
      @kingpak1325 Před 4 lety +6

      Bryce Franco Zholshybekov We aren’t Chinese, they are colonising us HongKongers.

    • @kenzhang312
      @kenzhang312 Před 4 lety +5

      @@kingpak1325 How pathetic

    • @deeeenisttv
      @deeeenisttv Před 4 lety

      @@kingpak1325 yes, but it's still a video which is related to China

    • @de132
      @de132 Před 4 lety +4

      @@kenzhang312 I don't think it's pathetic, I do think it's a stark opinion.

    • @kenzhang312
      @kenzhang312 Před 4 lety +6

      @@de132 even the second/third generation immigrants from China still call themselves Chinese in overseas. They would not deny they are Chinese, some of these young people in HK have betrayed their roots, lost their spines. That is truly sad and really really pathetic. how come the young people in Macau doesn't say something like that? Also the irony is that most of the people who miss the British ruled time are the ones who have never experienced it.

  • @makemoneynow5061
    @makemoneynow5061 Před 3 lety +1

    Keep posting interesting contents like this!

  • @AshlandInsuranceOregon

    How interesting! Thank you, PolyMatter.

  • @adrianktng
    @adrianktng Před 4 lety +9

    As a Hong Konger, Thank you so much to make a video about us

  • @sohopedeco
    @sohopedeco Před 4 lety +8

    I was in Macau during the 2014 Brazilian presidential elections and I read a news report about the ballot on the Brazilian consulate of Hong Kong was the one where the opposing candidate Aécio Neves had won by the largest margin in the world. Then they explained that most "Brazilian" voters in Hong Kong were actually Hong Kongers who had lived for sometime in Brazil, naturalized, and then went back. Most didn't really care and only wanted to make sure not lose the Brazilian citizenship.

  • @t.godemiche7087
    @t.godemiche7087 Před 3 lety +1

    A brilliant analysis, thank you!

  • @Peahnuts
    @Peahnuts Před 4 lety +1

    Not sure if it means anything, but I hadn't been receiving your videos for about 5 months. I had thought you completely stopped until I stumbled upon this one by accident!

  • @jakob5643
    @jakob5643 Před 4 lety +110

    Hmm sounds like a new microphone right? so good quality on the commentary

  • @KarlDMarx
    @KarlDMarx Před 3 lety +45

    I remember one Hong Konger stating: "We are not British subjects - we are British objects!" The question of nationality and residence status is just a game for the elites.

  • @CSCharlesIV
    @CSCharlesIV Před 3 lety

    love it how you sneak in the ad at the least expected moment lol. kudos on the videos :)

  • @azuru.7903
    @azuru.7903 Před 4 lety +2

    Damn your videos are genuinely awesome

  • @quahntasy
    @quahntasy Před 4 lety +43

    *border dispute occurs*
    Britain - uh okay bye

  • @p9848o
    @p9848o Před rokem +8

    I was born in 1998 and I will immigratie to the UK through BNO visa in the coming year (One of my parents is BNO holder who was born in HONG KONG before 1997). I just want to say I think I am a British who is loyally to THE KING .

    • @darth.severu5
      @darth.severu5 Před rokem

      1st, BNOs are not British citizens. 2nd BNO visa does not guarantee citizenship.

    • @ehislqwezad316
      @ehislqwezad316 Před 9 měsíci +4

      Bno holders have right to vote.

    • @ehislqwezad316
      @ehislqwezad316 Před 6 měsíci +1

      @@darth.severu5 you chinese are always china citizenship 🤣

    • @yggvv7570
      @yggvv7570 Před 6 měsíci

      I agree. So why China is not happy about this? @@darth.severu5

  • @petrichor111
    @petrichor111 Před 4 lety

    Great Video, as always! I especially love your art style!

  • @ESC_jackqulen
    @ESC_jackqulen Před 4 lety +2

    Great video!
    I really like several points pointed out in this video that were often overlooked by the news.
    -some saw HK returning to China as a good thing back then, because we're not ever considered as British citizens.
    -my family is the prime example of "astronaut" thing mentioned in the video. My mum stayed in HK while the rest of my family immigrated to USA. My dad has returned to HK after getting US citizenship.
    The foreign passport as security is so true. Because of having US citizenship and me not moving back to HK (lol), my parents now started to make plans to permanently moving to USA also...

    • @ESC_jackqulen
      @ESC_jackqulen Před 3 lety +1

      ​@Erwin Lii Hi, I'll answer them with my own bias on the issue...
      -In my personal opinion, reclaiming HK is not about winning the cold war against USA/India, but simply a matter of national pride and ending colonialism on what used to be China's land.
      -I wouldn't say the UK "left their colonial mess behind" this time around. UK wished to remain control on HK but China does not want any foreign involvement in HK, so the UK was forced to leave.
      -The China-Taiwan issue is far another complicated situation. Technically, both claim to be the legitimate 'China'. What started this divide is the different political parties. You can say it's a civil war that never ended. There is no right or wrong in political systems. Just because we grew up with democratic ideologies doesn't equal communism has to be wrong. (of course, as an individual I would prefer one that gives me more personal and political freedom)
      -The HK protests... It started with the extradition law which is saying that the HK government can send fugitives to mainland China to be put under China's judicial laws. The law was opposed because people in HK afraid that China will abuse this law. The first demonstrations against the law were peaceful, it's 1 million people went on the streets saying they don't want this bill to be passed. HK government decided to ignore and continue to green-light the bill, then a week later 2 million people went on the streets to say no. It gets violent after that because there is a lack of response from the HK government that satisfies the will of HK people.

  • @oliversissonphone6143
    @oliversissonphone6143 Před 4 lety +28

    Factually incorrect. Australians haven’t been able to move to the UK without a visa for a long time. (1950s?)

    • @megaangelic
      @megaangelic Před 4 lety +7

      Still can if their parents or grandparents were British. At that moment in time that was a very very large portion of Australians and Canadians. Today much less so.

    • @MuppetsSh0w
      @MuppetsSh0w Před 4 lety +5

      Gotta mention white people bad you know

    • @Sparx632
      @Sparx632 Před 4 lety

      It does have 90 day visa free access though I think.

    • @williamevans4894
      @williamevans4894 Před rokem +1

      Australia and Canada should be allowed to move to the UK without visas

  • @awtizme
    @awtizme Před 4 lety +70

    13:03 RIP Korea

    • @Useless0305
      @Useless0305 Před 4 lety +3

      98 2 cheeky bit of racism 😬🥴

    • @La1930CosaNostra
      @La1930CosaNostra Před 4 lety +3

      Wow!!! Attention to detail I must say... You picked that out in a 5 second clip of the world map... 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻

    • @capncake8837
      @capncake8837 Před 3 lety

      @B J You can actually see a little of NZ.

  • @maciejkamil
    @maciejkamil Před 3 lety

    Interesting, as always. I never known, that the handover was so complicated!

  • @caitlynchui4887
    @caitlynchui4887 Před 3 lety

    thank you for making this video

  • @magicsmurfy
    @magicsmurfy Před 3 lety +3

    Very accurate. I wish everyone can be that honest about the facts.

  • @Official_dj
    @Official_dj Před 4 lety +6

    Hey my guy just a quick thing that the graphic map of the UK Ur using misses out all the the islands, I know Shetland and Orkney are far and harder to get in but the inner and outer Hebrides are right off the coast , Scotland looks weird without them ,
    Great vid tho just that one thing , 👍

  • @renaissancebeing
    @renaissancebeing Před 4 lety +1

    Kudos for the great video, much gratitude for bringing the issue of BNO to the light of the world. Cheers!

  • @Goodman-4525
    @Goodman-4525 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you for the continued coverage on our situation!

  • @tmfan3888
    @tmfan3888 Před 4 lety +3

    0:19 that railway map is so updated

  • @ycohui
    @ycohui Před 4 lety +27

    HK Protests
    PolyMatter: Meh
    UK Home Office & Foreign Minister Mails
    PolyMatter: BNO is becoming better, Yap. But the majority protesters isn’t really eligible for BN(O)
    Protesters: Cries. We love Hong Kong, as we could kept just like the 80s and 90s.
    Yeah, Hong Kong is always as a second-class citizens under whose control.
    Yet, They are Hong Kongers but not Chinese. They still got their language as the vid stated (Cantonese). The independent currency and a slightly weird judiciary system. Maybe the controlling by brits were bad before, but the double-deckers buses, freedoms and the lovely society was brought from UK.
    God save the queen as just Her Majesty’s “formal” birthday had just passed, and Hope the freedom would be with Hong Kong and their citizens

    • @hko2006
      @hko2006 Před 4 lety

      Not sure you do you mean by "a slightly weird judiciary system", HK follows the common law system from the UK.

    • @ycohui
      @ycohui Před 4 lety +4

      As the Judge of Final Court is appointed by Chief Executive of HKSAR, at the current state, Carrie Lam whom isn’t selected directly by the citizens but appointed by PRC Government. What would you think about the judge?
      Currently Geoffrey Ma is still having a high credibility. But he is going to retire and there is a new one coming. Who knows what will be going on.
      HM Government just not as the same as PRC Government

    • @rei_cirith
      @rei_cirith Před 4 lety +2

      We won't have our language for long if China has anything to say about it. A Hong Kong teacher was recently fired because a mainland parent complained that they refused to teach in Mandarin. Mandarin is also slowly taking over Chinatowns overseas.

    • @lilitong8067
      @lilitong8067 Před 4 lety +2

      Freedom when ruled by the uk? But the problem is that the hk people were regarded as second class citizens and never had the right to elect their government

    • @hko2006
      @hko2006 Před 4 lety +1

      @@ycohui Ah, thank you for reminding me this "appointed by CE" bit, forgot it myself.

  • @joel3536
    @joel3536 Před 4 lety

    This is quality content right here

  • @xena8_8
    @xena8_8 Před 4 lety

    great video as always

  • @drlau8898
    @drlau8898 Před 4 lety +7

    Well done. A very well-round explanation on Hong Kong issue. Absolutely right about that we, the British National Overseas in Hong Kong love our city and hope to reside here. However, it is also true that we need protection from the Britain at the moment as we are now oppressed by the tyranny. The Sino-British joint declaration, an international treaty between the UK and China is breached and therefore the UK has right and duty to extend the rights of BNOs and save them. For short term, there might be minor influx of people in the UK, but it is sure that they will leave once HK is liberated from the tyranny. For the time BNOs are staying in the UK, there will also be contributing and not welfare consuming, just like how they live in Hong Kong. It would be grateful if the world could understand the issue and continue to stand with Hong Kong.

  • @dhv2852
    @dhv2852 Před 4 lety +31

    All my love and support to everyone in Hong Kong, keep fighting, the world is watching you.

  • @snoopyyyy
    @snoopyyyy Před 4 lety

    i gotta say i really like your videos they teach me more than school

  • @pikminlord343
    @pikminlord343 Před 3 lety

    another great video

  • @angus1087
    @angus1087 Před 4 lety +6

    You missed several crucial point on why Hong Kongers currently view BNO is superior to HK passports.
    1. You could obtain an emergency passport to continue your trip if you loss your BNO, while you cant do so if you hold an HKSAR passport. The chinese embassy have no authority to make an HK emergecy passport as the granting of a HK emergency passport could only be done by the Immigration Office in Hong Kong, not by the Chinese embassy. As a result, the Chinese embassy could only give an A4 paper for you to fly back to Hong Kong.
    2. Some countries in EU/EEA treats BNO as BC holders and offer them EEA tuition fees and benefits as same as BC holders. It is way easier to open a foreign bank account if you present a BNO compared to HK passports.
    3. The citizenship displays as British for BNO holders while it shows Chinese in HK passports. In some countries it would be easier and quicker for us to deal with immigration officers or using some other services. Discrimination to chinese nationals do exists.
    4. The UK embassy provides the same quality of assistance to BNO holders as that of BC. While the chinese embassy offers no help to HK passport holders as they technically do not have the information of the HK passport holders, and ironically they treated HK passport holders as second tier chinese citizens in handling their cases. This was evident when the UK evacuated BNO holders from overseas back to Hong Kong much quicker and lower cost compared to HK passport holders.
    Currently there is a large surge in BNO applications in Hong Kong. The number of renewal applications per year is rising exponentially due to the political unrest and the COVID-19 response to HK citizens overseas.

  • @clementkong8133
    @clementkong8133 Před 4 lety +5

    @9:41 if u notice the top right corner of the passport was cut, so those people ripping their BNO passports were actually just ripping their expired BNO passport.

  • @nofanfelani6924
    @nofanfelani6924 Před 4 lety

    The ads transition at the end was perfect.

  • @Rockthezeppelin
    @Rockthezeppelin Před 4 lety +2

    Great video as usual! Small correction, at 7:35 you say the passprt has an illustration of the great wall, but I believe that's China's national emblem, which is an illustration of Tiananmen.

  • @silverstar501
    @silverstar501 Před 4 lety +59

    9:47 Supporting the china by tearing off Photocopies and overdue BNO passport while sending their children to study in UK.... such a powerful support to the great china!
    (slowly clapping my hands.....)

    • @FlylHigh
      @FlylHigh Před 4 lety +3

      It's about competition and status. Why complete against millions of other students while there's far less competition oversea. International students have to pay far more than their domestic counterpart, so it shows the family got money as well. That being said, there's international student going to China as well.

    • @achernarchang883
      @achernarchang883 Před 4 lety +20

      It's a widespread phenomenon not only in HK, but in China at large. Many Chinese "patriots" publicly boast their love for China while, in private, send their offsprings to study abroad and even get foreign citizenships.

    • @SimonLeeds
      @SimonLeeds Před 4 lety +3

      That’s like saying all Americans are all racist. And all Russians just drink vodka all day. (Slowly clapping my hands at you...)

    • @leung618
      @leung618 Před 4 lety +9

      That dude who teared photocopy passport doesn't have a right for holding a BNO passport, he borned after 1997. And the another man teared his cancelled passport lol

    • @achernarchang883
      @achernarchang883 Před 4 lety +2

      @@SimonLeeds Dunno what made you come to your analogy. Last time I checked, "many" and "all" didn't mean the same.

  • @paciic
    @paciic Před 4 lety +10

    12:00 Actually their Parent(s) can get citizenship, then as a Spouse/Child of the Citizen can gain citizenship in the UK

  • @hoikwanwong299
    @hoikwanwong299 Před 4 lety

    Thank you so much 🙏🏻🙏🏻

  • @minhazulislam4682
    @minhazulislam4682 Před 4 lety +2

    waited for your content for quite sometime. I really admire your work, you and one other youtuber(oversimplified) inspired me to start working on my own project. I even wrote a few scripts. Thanks for your content. Make more of these.

  • @kothemagica
    @kothemagica Před 4 lety +8

    As a HKer I got to say I learnt a lot from this video

  • @onnybody
    @onnybody Před 4 lety +5

    The statement about Australian, Canadian and New Zealand citizens having the right of abode in the UK in the 1990s at about 4.55 is incorrect. Commonwealth citizens lost that automatic right in 1962.

  • @namesell9388
    @namesell9388 Před 4 lety +1

    Well said!

  • @ladaffodilion
    @ladaffodilion Před 3 lety

    Hi, Polymatter, your voice is so beautiful.

  • @xeroxsaw1303
    @xeroxsaw1303 Před 4 lety +143

    Chinese related topics: Exists
    PollyMatter: *I can milk you*

  • @milkypants7778
    @milkypants7778 Před 4 lety +144

    I don’t know why, but describing the issue of immigration as Britain not wanting “non white immigrants” kinda hits different. It’s a level of honesty that I didn’t expect and that often isn’t discussed openly. Thank you for a great video man!

    • @milkypants7778
      @milkypants7778 Před 4 lety

      Poppy Cock What?

    • @iumasz6088
      @iumasz6088 Před 4 lety +29

      you know why, because he his making to into a race issue when it isn't.
      any nation that spontaneously receives an extra 3 million overnight will have problems housing and providing for them.
      and the fact that brought up the right for Australians and new Zealanders come Britain whenever they want is irrelevant as half their population won't emigrate to the UK in a short period of time

    • @kendalljohnson9172
      @kendalljohnson9172 Před 4 lety +17

      Iumasz wow you’re like so brilliant too bad you’re wrong bc half of hk wouldn’t emigrate to britain either...bc economics. Good try though I guess.

    • @de132
      @de132 Před 4 lety +22

      @@iumasz6088 To say it has no basis on race is simply for your comfort, which is fine, but has seemingly no basis in reality.

    • @teelgrass
      @teelgrass Před 4 lety +11

      britain is an old world country. new world countries are founded and united by ideals. old world countries are united by ethnicity. britain has no obligation to allow the equivalent of 5% of their population in HK-ers to immigrate to their country overnight.

  • @tonyreyes1076
    @tonyreyes1076 Před 4 lety +1

    Great content as always, If I may, can i make a request. Can you please do a video on the business of drug cartels? It would be extremely interesting on how that economy functions, and I cannot think of any other CZcamsr better for this job, thanks. 🙏

  • @itsshopboy
    @itsshopboy Před 4 lety

    Where have you been Evan? I thought about Polymatter yesterday.

  • @Wolfangs88
    @Wolfangs88 Před 4 lety +220

    Britain: HK people are second class citizens
    HK: people waiving the British colonial flag and singing God Save the Queen

    • @edgelord8337
      @edgelord8337 Před 4 lety +42

      The irony.

    • @johnneymc
      @johnneymc Před 4 lety +91

      u beat a dog too often and too hard the dog starts to think that beating means love

    • @anthonyleung835
      @anthonyleung835 Před 4 lety +129

      Better be second class British citizens than second class Chinese ‘citizens’

    • @proboxpepper6752
      @proboxpepper6752 Před 4 lety +38

      @@anthonyleung835 I thought Hong Kongers feel more superior among all the Chinese.

    • @ppaaccoojrf
      @ppaaccoojrf Před 4 lety +76

      @@proboxpepper6752 Exactly. Better to be second class citizen of Britain than a citizen of China of any kind.

  • @leung618
    @leung618 Před 4 lety +11

    10:05 BN(O) has 185 places visa-free(42 visa on arrivals and 6 electronic visas),
    and HKSAR has 170(35 visa on arrivals and 2 electronic visas) at the moment according to Henley Passport Index.

    • @eloy618
      @eloy618 Před 3 lety +4

      Henley Passport Index does not rank BNO so your source is wrong. A proper UK passport has 185, while BNO has much fewer.

  • @Otawee
    @Otawee Před 4 lety +1

    I noticed new moc right away

  • @lexffe_lol
    @lexffe_lol Před 4 lety +2

    1. AFAIK the SAR passport does not gain any expedition when approaching the UK Border Control. (imo passing the border is as fast as BNO holders)
    Sidenote: sometimes BNO holders are even considered as British citizens. (border controls of some countries sometimes fail to distinguish between BC and BNO.)
    2. Both passport holders need to fill in landing cards IIRC. (However, the landing card system has been removed about a year ago?)
    3. I have also read stories about BNO holders gaining consular access (not in China, but anywhere else in the world basically)

  • @aviationnine-tailedfox2216

    Thank you PolyMatter for making a video about Hong Kong.

  • @obamaprism9702
    @obamaprism9702 Před 4 lety +62

    As a Brit I feel like the ultimate power move here would be to take the entire population of Hong Kong to England and just leave a ghost town

    • @Paintstation1
      @Paintstation1 Před 4 lety +42

      You miss the point. We don't wanna leave. Some might want to do so but most are incapable to live in the UK. We know the economy of the UK isn't that big enough to embrace us. And some of us, like me, wanna die fighting the evil CCP. The thing is if the Uk government grants us the full citizenship, it does help us a lot, not for leaving, but facing the CCP. Hong kong is a beautiful place that we Hongkongese don't wanna give it away to an totalitarian regime.

    • @dickiesdocos
      @dickiesdocos Před 3 lety +4

      @@Paintstation1 Don't worry if all Hongkongers leave China has plenty of people to replace them.

    • @user-ri3wj6bf3f
      @user-ri3wj6bf3f Před 3 lety +1

      @@Paintstation1 数典忘祖的垃圾

    • @user-ri3wj6bf3f
      @user-ri3wj6bf3f Před 3 lety

      @@Paintstation1 起这么个垃圾名字,不会说人话就不要说话。
      自己祖宗脸全让你丢尽了

    • @user-ri3wj6bf3f
      @user-ri3wj6bf3f Před 3 lety

      @@Paintstation1 没脸没皮的垃圾

  • @starboy5615
    @starboy5615 Před 4 lety +1

    Long time no see

  • @RuthBaderGainsburg
    @RuthBaderGainsburg Před 4 lety

    Great video - minor detail but FYI it’s not true that BNO fill out landing cards when they arrive at the UK border. All landing cards were removed in mid2019, they’re not used by passport holders from anywhere now. Any mention of them online is outdated.

  • @adamsfusion
    @adamsfusion Před 4 lety +18

    Stateless HK: So Britain, can you give us a home?
    Britain: I would but, y'know, _you're brown_ .

    • @isaacwong1465
      @isaacwong1465 Před 4 lety +1

      no we're yellow

    • @armour7
      @armour7 Před 4 lety

      Tbh, I don’t think there is a problem with people who are British getting British passports. There were changes that were bad, but I think that it is only fair that someone who was born in the uk (or someone in their immediate family) should be allowed back to the UK in the place to someone that wasn’t.

    • @skfok8472
      @skfok8472 Před 4 lety

      @@isaacwong1465 yea we're yellow

    • @skfok8472
      @skfok8472 Před 4 lety

      Which is kinda white

    • @Subscriberschallenge-hh6tu
      @Subscriberschallenge-hh6tu Před 4 lety

      racism

  • @PHCuber
    @PHCuber Před 4 lety +53

    Hong Kong: rallies
    Polymatter: what’s that? I’m talking about your *passport* .

    • @karl-oppa5261
      @karl-oppa5261 Před 4 lety +4

      PHCuber
      pinas lang ang gumagamit ng “rally” when describing protests
      “protest” is the right word

    • @nytrex_yt7417
      @nytrex_yt7417 Před 4 lety +1

      @Karl -oppa You can say rallies as well sometimes and you can’t correct someone if your not an expert at it

    • @chunchoi4434
      @chunchoi4434 Před 4 lety

      64 memorial gathering is a rally
      What is going on most of the time in Hong Kong is protest.

    • @PHCuber
      @PHCuber Před 4 lety +1

      Rallies are protests, period. I’m also from PH btw

  • @andrewlin5119
    @andrewlin5119 Před 4 lety +1

    OMG, I went on the cruise ship in the video like 15 years ago! It was about only 20USD to stay for a night!