Hong Kong: Is the one ‘country, two systems’ principle officially over? - BBC Newsnight
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- Veteran Hong Kong pro-democracy campaigners are jailed as Beijing extends its crackdown on dissent. Is China’s promise of ‘one country, two systems’ officially over? Please subscribe HERE bit.ly/1rbfUog
The verdicts came as mainland China is increasingly cracking down on Hong Kong's rights and freedoms.
Among those in court was Hong Kong pro-democracy media tycoon Jimmy Lai who was sentenced to 14 months in prison after being found guilty of unauthorised assembly.
Several other activists were sentenced on Friday for participating in two demonstrations, on 18 August and 31 August 2019.
They include veteran campaigner Martin Lee, 82, and lawyer Margaret Ng, 73, whose sentences were suspended.
The sentencing is part of a series of trials all relating to the large-scale pro-democracy protests in 2019.
The protests culminated in the most tense wave of demonstrations in years, often ending in widespread violence between police and activists.
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lol, love the saying from that expert: Please allow Nathan do what he did in HK in UK, he will be prosecuted, jailed in UK?
I guess not, UK police probably would beat the shxt out of him in the event.
Oh wait, when he is encouraging other folks protesting on the streets, he is studying in Yale
Nathan has spoken out the truth. Thank you！ A completely peaceful protest in 18/8, but still HK citizens are put into jail.
peaceful protest？what a joke. it is not hard to access the internet and find videos that slap you face hard. BBC audience are this type ? lol wow
@@user-hr6tb9fh8k you are the joke man. I cannot help if you cannot read court verdict; oh wait! There ain’t such thing in the mainland China 😀 no wonder!
Why focus on 818 case with Gao in the first place? This is the misleading part. Gao is from Beijing. He only can understand the whole thing as general and explain to you their general direction for these case. Law concluded that the protest is peaceful, and the host keep nodding, what else can he say? It's either a poor arrangement or just a set up trap.
@@user-hr6tb9fh8k Another Chinese fifty cents is lying
@@leemingliangsji7105 what trap ? When does it become acceptable that a person can tell blatant lies, mislead the public, and just say that it’s bcuz he does not know the facts????
Why was the host kept on interrupting Mr Gao whenever he heard something he didn’t like or disagree with, very unprofessional and pathetic. Also I would like to see what will happen if Nathan Law carries out some unlawful protests in UK, no doubt the UK police will arrest him like they did to the ‘Kill the Bill’ protestors in UK.
UK should take all the BNO passport owners as well as those unhappy with the Beijing's government.
Looking forward to Britain taking away all of its BNO craps
looking forward to Chi Na got beat by 8 countries like history~
@@achimpancute2126 what I see now is the fallen of the Great Britan.
@@jianyang6281 please ask China officials family not coming to fallen places 😂
Don’t be jealous. You can stay in your beloved communist utopia forever to enjoy poisonous milk and vaccines 😛
Thank you, Nathan , for telling the world what really is happening here in hk
Thou shall not lie
@@taytk8005 You sd not try to smear Wumao!
@@user-pg4co8gd7c
Not a smear. Truth must be public knowledge.
@@taytk8005 Dont even try , truth must be public knowledge? Why China has to established this firewall to stop its people to know what is happening in the free world!!
@@user-pg4co8gd7c
Oh we are supposed to be suckered into believing that truth is only from Western Governments, Agencies and Western Media Narratives like
1)IRAQ has Chemical Of Mass Destructions
2)N Vietnam must be stopped as they want to invade and rule Cambodia, Laos, Thailand, Malaya, Singapore under the Vietnam's Dominos theory of communism
3) Cuba, Grenada, Panama, Columbia, Venezuela, Argentina, Equaduor
4)Rawanda, Somali, kenya Syria, Afghanistan, ETC
You did a very good job, stayed calm and just made your points one by one, and let the old man embarrass himself
go back to HK and
fugitive ...
nathan you lied ..lied and kept telling lies in order to.mske a living..in order to stay in UK..
#FreeNorthernIceland #FreeScotland #FreeLondon
You really don’t understand the history of the leaders of these criminal organizations
1. He was born in mainland China, and his family sold his hometown to live in Hong Kong. However, due to the rise of Shenzhen, the house in their hometown has appreciated, valued at 110 million yuan, and they directly regretted it and wanted to get the house back (the end of course is that they can’t get it back, so Luo hates the government extremely)
2. He and others organized most of the violence in Hong Kong and abandoned his accomplices.
Do you really like this person who likes money and is perfidious? ? ? Then let him stay in the UK forever
I'm not sure why people think those protests were peaceful whilst shops were looted, civilians were attacked and HK police were battered.
I like this Chinese man if the British see its fine they shud allow Nathan to protest in UK
@Yuen Chan We signed a treaty in which China must respect the one country, two systems arrangement. Britain rightfully has an interest in Hong Kong.
@Yuen Chan Poor ignorant, if the British had not been in Hong Kong before 1997, Hong Kong would not have the wealth and democracy it had before Beijing no longer honored its commitments.
What is the definition of Chinese? By race or nationality?
@@Xavier-Denis I will give the poor ignorant back to you. you really need to learn the history, man. if the British army didn't fight for the drug dealers in the 1840, how could they open the the Chinese market to get the tremendous amount of silver they lost in the trade with the Qing government.the British government didn't build Hong kong for charity, they were colonizers, the suffering they gave to the hong kong people might forget by the young generation，but still kept in the old generations' mind. and the other countries who were colonized by the British will not thank you for the occupation.by the way ,the British didn't give hong kong democracy, the wealth they got from hong kong is much more they gave.that is the colonization, don't be hypocritical.no one will thank you for that.China can build a city like Shenzhen in 30 years.
@Yuen Chan How do you define Han race?
very rude guest and very rude host, they never let Victor Gao finished his view point, what's the point of this show anyway if it's so biased
This is BBC doing things! If I am Mr.Gao I will yells or just quit!
If you're in Hong Kong, get out and come to the Britain. Escape while you can.
"If you don't like it here, you can leave" ~ Donald Trump
@@michaeljiang960 there goes democracy😅
Yes, please take all of them
We can't take that many pls.
and get racially abused by the racist english brexit voting white people lmao
Where is the news of Japan dumping nuclear water to ocean form BBC
UK is not worried of the nuclear waste water. They calculated it will take 10 years to get to the British shores and by that time the current government will not be held responsible.
The protests have been completely peaceful???? You liar Nathan! Freedom of speech doesn't mean to Tell lies shamelessly!
Peaceful protests? I saw killing and burning. Plz tell me my understanding of the term peaceful has changed
Yes, killing by HK brutal police force.
@@forum1029384756 very much like to see a hard evidence. I’m shocked by how easy these nonsense accusations come out from liars
The Law system in HK favours the rioters, tell me which one incident of death during the riot was not caused by the rioters? Remember the one eye girl? There were lawyers all over the internet willing to buy that story and fight for the freedom fighter, the judges were pro- rioters, and set so many of them free. Even with that bias, she didn’t event make a claim against the police, how framed and bag of liers can you be if you don’t see the truth?
What you see?where you see? Go to the scence. I see bully of police . I see 300 milion people on the street.
@@circlemicky I watched hours of unedited footages of the HK demonstration, majority starts peacefully, no police brutality, then a small mob starts to do crazy stuff. The police were being attacked，not the other way around. HK police are one of the most restraint and professional forces in the world, the only one that shows you a banner to tell rioters to go away before firing tear gases. So what the rioters did in USA you get a taste of real billets not rubber ones.
Gao has the exact point. Let Lai demonstrate in the UK. Do the same thing, fight the police, block the traffic, paralysed the subway. Maybe the UK government then will take you seriously. come on! let's do it in the UK!!!!
I am sorry, but it seems that you don’t know what really happened. Jimmy Lai was charged as the authority accused him of attending an unauthorized assembly (different from unlawful assembly, which is another legal term), which even the prosecutors agreed that it was completely peaceful. More than 1 million people attended the rally, even the notoriously biased police announced a 6-figure number.
The long sentence shows that the establishment not only crushes street violence, but also doesn’t tolerate the most peaceful way of street demonstrations, which is, and should be protected under the Basic Law.
It's happening, at Belfast, let see how BBC responds to it
@@howluk2901 BBC has already made several news reports and analysis about the Belfast unrest, and you can check. The violence in Belfast is in a totally different context, and the motives and historic background behind are as complicated as the Hong Kong issue.
If you are a mainlander, please try to understand why Hongkongers rebel and detest Chinese rule, but not just following the official tone, blaming the so-called foreign intervention, and acting like trolls without independent thinking.
UK would definitely send in gangs to beat up people like back on 19th July, 2019. In Yuen Long district of Hong Kong. Let's see that in UK!
The moderator, who was clearly supportive of the young man's position, interrupted the ambassador seceral times during the conversation and tried to silence him while the two spoke toghter.
However, the moderator kept slient and listened carefully when that young man spoke. This was not a fair debate worth having.
Hey bot, no one buys your bs lol 😆
@@keepitsteel1993 You are a bot because you type so short lol
@@keepitsteel1993 Did I say sth
wrong?
@@keepitsteel1993 Don't call the questioner "bot". It dosen't make you seem more resonable. If my point is unresonable, you can point it out.
@@spike7601 No I shouldn't really I should just be clear by "Bot" I mean 15-20 CCP officials sat in one room on a LAN network, commenting and liking each others youtube posts..I just..words can't describe how sad it is, and the best part is, your all really bad at it lol
lmao, can bbc at least let the other's finish their sentence first? The bbc hosts are worse than trump!
BBC behaves like that way, interruption of guest's talks when they hearing the messages they dislikes! Promoting the messages they likes in convenience!
Dude, the guy that he was interrupting, was a literal member of the CCP speaking propaganda about Hong Kongers, it's not fair to make that comparison.
@@shmibbybibby7668 Dude, in a democratic world, even criminals on trail got to finish their words. if you don't like this, then free world is not for you.
@@justalaugher The free world is not for the CCP, so what I said was that it was fair enough that they were interrupting that man, more so than it's justified when Trump interrupts reporters.
So is it legal for protesters to enter unauthorized areas in UK? Can I enter UK parliament to protest racial injustice without authorization??
Yes you can in your dream.
no violence, are you serious? are you blind?
yeah the police weren't doing their job if there was no violence right?
@培 Ted who did the violence? who made the violence? Are you blind? Is your mind blind?
@@cw-nh6kj fugitive, jail is ahead of you
@@cw-nh6kj czcams.com/video/3OTukaLZNQo/video.html Tell me what this is?
He can say whatever he wants, all the fake news possible, BBC will never break the narrative...
Nathan could organize a 'peaceful' protest and 'peacefully' invade Westminster because the UK parliament didn't act strongly against China for HK democracy. And I am sure he is not going to be arrested and prosecuted.
The BBC program host biased against Mr. Gao. He interrupted Mr. Gao's conversation. I want to listen to Mr. Gao's perception of the riot in Hong Kong. If the program host did not want Mr. Gao to speak, he should not invite Mr. Gao to the interview program. I witnessed the unprofessional and disrespectful behaviors of the BBC program host.
how can you call the protest in hong kong a peaceful protest lmao
anyone who has seen the violence on the streets of HK and still call it a pro democracy movement, is not only losing your mind, but losing your consciousness and heart of compassion
Obviously I would say it has died. HK is totally monitored by CCP. That is also why a lot of HK people have decided to immigrate to Canada or the UK to seek for a better life.
The 'better' life to HongKongers is just normal life in civilized world.
Where are those”lots of” funny about your dream talk. Good joke
Well good for them if they can't adapt.. Seek life elsewhere rather than been a nuisance to the public.
Simple. Please let Luo do the same thing in the UK.
@@DAVID-ih1xi Well go ahead.. as long as England allows.. let him organize one and we can see what methods the English will use.
Forgive Nathan Law, he was born to be a traitor. Now he is. You feel sorry for a rat, because it is a rat. You love a cat, because it is a cat. Wie man wird, was man ist.
Freeeeeedom scotland !!! Freeeeeedom Ireland !!!
HK city was almost destroyed by the PEACEFUL demonstrators!!
i blv what Nanthan did during those vandalism, setting fire on innocents, insulting police, etc. will be charged as internal terrorism just in any country.
Democratic activist or separatist? Look at what happened to those democratic elected separatists in Catalonia. They were jailed ten years, ten times more than those in Hong Kong.
Who else wants to be part of commie China? Only the stupid one.
@H L Yea, that's the name. By it's an autocratic authoritative, totalitarian regime run by factions and cabals. You little 50 cent dimwit dumb dumb.
@H L Genuine proof and evidence instead of empty talk please. Can't come up with any country on this planet earth that has highest number of population emigrating to overseas if they were really happy. As well as there is the highest number of political dissidents left or try to leave such country let alone the bright and smart ones.
@H L Yea right, communist con man. Send me link and show me proof. Glad that you bought up India and Mexico. Communist china is just on par with those third world countries. Letting a third world/ fifth world to run a first world world class territory? That's the consequences and that's your thing. Can't help anyone who likes to be a lackey to Peking commie thugs but without backbone dignity and integrity to become a traitor and state enemy of Hong Kong. Dissidents? Yes, they are the very brave freedom fighters and patriots to fight for what Hong Kong should have deserved and to topple and annihilate your tyrannical Iranian style terrorist state. Let's see how things evolve and wonder how long your crippled regime can survive.
@H L Right, no wonder communist china and the con man like you are doomed to fail. The system of yours is so broken and hardly sustainable. If your system was good would the people go out protest? I think they have got better things to do than you. While you bring up international ranking this and that, of course, you have got to show it instead of asking me showing it to you in which I did. Your tyranny and you little lackey would be annihilated. Let's wait and see down the road in the course of history. Glad I make you laugh as you should be laughed and be ashamed to kowtow to those Peking commies using states own military and para military forces to kill, kidnap, frame, charge, indict, the unarmed civilians in order to silence them in the name of restoring peace and order - what a blatant lie, but a bunch of cowards running the show.
Can you accept peaceful demonstration, Hong Kong style to be done in UK? Indian is not British slave any more. Don’t you know that.?
BBC is racist, she never reports Britian's social problems accurately but magnificent problems from Asia countries! Just Disgusting!
@@edsonzhoi1764 yes and that kind of terrorisim shouldn't be allowed anywhere,shame the china gov knocked those terrorisits down too slow
If I heard "peaceful" again about HK riot, I puke
peaceful, peaceful, peaceful, 3 times
Jimmy Lai broke the law for unlawful assembly and was convicted and jailed, there is nothing political about it. The organizers didn't receive approval for their assembly and went ahead anyway, that is why they are sentenced. It doesn't matter whether the assembly turned out peaceful or not, that is how the law works in Hong Kong. It is very surprising that BBC just spin this story the other way round.
Looks like 2047 is coming way too soon enough.
Bro this is the apocalypse.
CCP WILL NOT HESITATE TO GIVE THE UYGHUR TREATMENT FOR THOSE WHO DEFY THEM. FOR THE REST, IT'S THE CHINA VIRUS!
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Thank you for your email
2047 is not that far it’s just 27 years more to go...
It was a peaceful protest; there was no violence. What a liar. A fugitive and a liar.
stop lying! Your act of setting fire to passing old people is called "peaceful"? Do you call the act of burning subway stations and shops "peaceful"? Do you call the killing of a barricade clearance worker by throwing bricks at him "peaceful"? All of these crimes are documented on video. Is this what you call a peaceful protest?
Why are we still trading with China?
Because Money first for capitalism
Greedy and capitalism, said Bojo
Reality is, China has a stranglehold on the supply chains and infrastructure needed for global production of goods. Also, the west don't like working in factories for minimum wage any more
Same question on the US about 120 years ago. Amazing that someone still ask it nowadays.
@@sheppo time to slowly break from it
Nathan we feel so proud of you and you have all the supports from Hong Kongers!!
@@ysw8291 ccp bot, yikes
#FreeNorthernIceland #FreeScotland #FreeLondon
@@ysw8291 Indeed it is very very sad that The word Chinese have been misused by the CCP to confuse the Chinese people and the world
Do not confuse one identity with nationality.
So who is the embarrassment now? Erh?
what a dumbass
It is funny that a country which has not human right to criticize a country which has human right.
It is funny there are human beings who would still call themselves 'subjects' of another human being (Elizabeth and her family) in the modern world. A republic which China is, taking lessons on equality and freedom from a monarchy? Lol give us a break.
@@coninseres4541 subject? Yea continue to twist and play with your new speak, who is living in a democratic country and who is not, it’s plain simple and obvious
@@karmankm2156 lol e
By British Law every British citizen is a subject of the monarch Elizabeth Windsor with sworn personal loyalty. Are you being deliberately stupid or what?
looking forward to see thousands of nathon laws in northern Ireland to support the independency of the great Ireland
and Scotland
@@kmwong1786 and Genosha
You have the right to protest in Hong Kong within a a set of rules and laws set up by the British government. They are charged, sentenced and jailed in accordance with the still-in-effect laws inherited from the Brtis.
For the 18 August Protest ，the protestors stopped the moving vehicles and blocked the roads，traffic of the whole HK Island was affected for 8 hours，the Protest had been objected by Police few days before it started .
For the 31 August Protest, riots soon took place after the so called peaceful protest by the democrats. It happened many times before. The so called peaceful protesters often appeared at the scene in order to cover the rioters. Nathan Law forgot to mention the above in the interview.
HongKong is a city of China! Not your colony anymore! Take your hands off it!
If you say you support HongKong's freedom, China should support Scotland's freedom!
Other country's management is not your business!
Open the history, what have you done to the colonies! You still do the same thing in same way now!
i don't get it, what's wrong with just admitting hong kong now is one country one system? if china's system is so good, and hong kong is a internal affair, just become one country one system....
If China is so good why don't HKers not want it?
dllm on9
It's one country two systems where the former takes precedent.
Get a brain,will you???
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Hong Kong is China's VM, an isolated entity that also serve the intrest of China, an isolated entity to conduct high risk high gain activities. Read the basic law, the NPC granted HK to run another system, the root user is always NPC ever since 1997. Not like HK is somehow a separated entitiy.
Why didn't they mute this Chinese guy on the screen?? He was shouting over Nathan Law! Disgusting!
Shut up u idiot.what u know about Hong-Kong.u weed stoner
John, be courteous.
@@johnhenry2238 Chinese troll, wumao
@@annetteenzoulis4870 And you're white, Mind your own sht in your own country. Chinese has the right to say what they want in their own land not some kind of random hypocrisy say I feel sorry for them and start interfere other people sht
@@justdogood7413 to someone inciting and supporting rioters, there isn't grounds of courtesy. U don't be a sentimental fool for a few rioters in incontemp the majorities' safety and welfare.
Thank you Nathan,stand with hongkong !
Nathan Law only stands with HK rioters, oh wait! He did a runner and fled to UK as FUGITIVE and left his fellow criminals behind to face justice.
Stand with you outlaws
So glad you request the pull out of British judges, lol.
Yes should not agree and continue to support the so call rule of law in hk, the international community should recognise that
The pull out will greatly damage the position of Hong Kong as a fair international judicial and financial center, fyr.
@BGGFW CHK yes international community including the 5eyes, if you have a closer look at how many countries had condemned the breach on human rights in hk since fall of 2019, you would understand
And how many countries have suspended their extradition arrangement with hk
One would know the scale and the signals sent out by the international community in response and reaction to CCP aggression in damaging the democratic processes promised to Hong Kong ppl
@BGGFW CHK yes please let’s close the door and continue to damage the international reputation built over the years, and treat hk the same as any part of China seems like a good idea 💡
@BGGFW CHK there are 27 countries ve already voiced against the implementation of the arbitrary national security law,
9 out of the 19 countries pull out the extradition arrangement dated back in fall 2020,
And there are many more organisations in support of the democratic movement in hk
So yes the international community
If u want to know more about it you can always search on google I suppose
This journalist is very rude, never let the aged guy finish his talk.
Lmao, your so obvious it hurts 🤣
@@keepitsteel1993 Not at all, my dear. It's a pity that the reporter of BBC lost his dignity.
@@keepitsteel1993 Did my comment hurt you?
@@Julia-il8dy lol, you even get likes from bots
He had been atk him and the host in personal and just like other chinese, never confront the question directly. He should be stopped even more early
Innocent people got burned, cop got throat cut, on Hongkong street, and yet these liers talking about peaceful movement. You have to be insane to believe that.
bot
proof and link?
@@SS-tr6ei please tell me in what sense can anyone say these are peaceful protesters? These inhumane riots, liers, got your support?
@@Siegfriedcn hardly can be peaceful when police forces are striking and storming protesters, hitting them and confiscating them. The protests got accumulated and sparked riots within some groups because of the strong opposition and crackdown on human rights. There's still however majority of protests which were held peacefully.
@@valervan then stop calling them peaceful protesters and send all riots into jail which is what China is doing afterwards
A terrorist is a terrorist doesn't matter they are 78 or 18. Stop being double standard.
Fight for justice, truth, freedom
But let justice roll down like waters,
and righteousness like an ever-flowing stream.
Amos 5:24
Many thanks to the host to stop Gao turning the discussion into his own comedy show lol
@@ysw8291 ccp bot, yikes
#FreeNorthernIceland #FreeScotland #FreeLondon
The Chinese professor made an explicit point: If The British government is still sanctioning China for what has happened in Hong Kong, may I please ask Mr. Nathan Laws to do the same in UK as protesters did in HK. I'm sure he will be prosecuted.
Obviously you don’t live in UK.
@@05350 Did you know Jimmy Lai was a businessman in Hong Kong and seditiously asked the teenagers to incite violence in HK. He funded and supported those suspected to leave illegally. Open your eyes and look at the facts. Those who don't live in UK have the rights to express their thoughts. That's called "freedom of speech", which you "eagerly" demand for.
Wumao
@@vincentlui1456 In Hong Kong every single opposition candidate was arrested, imagine if boris did that ?
The 1931 constitution of the Chinese Communist Party accepted secession as legal with article 14 stating “The Soviet government of China recognizes the right of self-determination of the national minorities in China, their right to complete separation from China, and to the formation of an independent state for each national minority.” However, the CCP's change from a revolutionary group to the dominant state power in 1949 led to this language being left out of later constitutions and any legal chance for secession disappeared from Chinese law. Try again!
Free Ireland
Huh? Southern or Northern? From who?
@@TG-ts3xn America is a stolen continent
Free America
Make America native again
@@xellos5110 Huh?
Chinese in YT are funny, they try to relate the scummy things they do and lie about in 2022 with 300 year old history.
It’s like they haven’t evolved.
@@TG-ts3xn 300 years history? HK riots employed IRA tactics of violent attacks, but I'm sure IRA is ancient history to you too haha. HongKong "democracy warriors" used petrol bombs, flaming arrows, and bricks to attack all who opposed them, even civilian counter protesters. They killed a 70, 80 years old janitor with a flying brick. They burnt a 70 year old man badly who dared criticize them. The videos are on CZcams for you to see.
Moral integrity is nom-existent with the likes of Nathan. If the BBC host was not biased as he is, this interview would have gone the same way like Joey Siu's total embarrassment on DW.
@@TG-ts3xnYou western "free world" citizens funnier. Criticizing China by fake news won't justify scummy things done by western nations.
1 country 2 system is dead...
Rule of law is dead...
CCP controls and destroy everything we love.
We support, and It is totally correct that Nathan left HK as most of us want to get rid of CCP ‘s suppression. There are No more freedom of speech n protests in our beloved country:(
The UK should set up a small area of the UK where hongkongers can rebuild their city over hear.
They've been offered citizenship so they could do that if they want I guess, they could turn the isle of Sheppy into the new Hong Kong.
Yes, I believe Boris can always shed Crocodile tears for villains.
Many years ago a UK politician suggested to send the Hkers to one of the islands in one of the Hebrides islands in the North Sea to help transform it to another HK.
@@dimsumden5745 it's a wacky but very cool idea and probably even doable
Yeah, We, Chinese, really support you!!! Give them you Great British civil rights, give them citizenship, Please!!!
Nathan pls continue to do what you did in HK in Britain to improve the racists society you are in now.
When there is profit, CCP calls blood thicker than blood. If there is nothing, they treat Hong Kong people worse than dogs!
Free Hong Kong! What we need is freedom of speech and democracy! The gov and ccp totally suppressed ppl here, saying a word that they don’t like can leads u to sit in jail
Have you ever any democracy during colonisation age? Poor guy... and now all of a sudden you are trying to pretend to have democracy in the past?
What about Julian Assange!
Received, thank you.
That person doesn't exist.
@Chu Chou There are videos regarding Julian Assange, by the BBC.
This is a video regarding Honk Kong, so instead of playing a silly little game of whataboutism, why don't you try to make a point about the topic at hand?
BBC doesn't want to talk about him.
@@comanchio1976 what do you mean? The measly 2 min that they covered about him?
hahaha I cracked up when he says “on this reputable show”.... bbc is now more of a entertainment for me than a news outlet. But when it comes to the argument Gao aced it. Inciting violence is not a go anywhere in the world.
might as well just let Nathan law the fugitive runs his own show with his lies
Hong Kong is the most free and democratic place in the world. No rioters shot by police to death during the riots in the past two years! but USA ?
Nathan: What was the purpose of your meeting with the lady who called the HK riots "it's a beautiful sight to behold"
"the beautiful sight to behold" move to US. Nancy Pelosi move NED funding from Hong Kong back to her own country, the great America 👏👏👏
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Nathon Law every word you uttered is based on LIES & Narratives provided to you
Remember, The British Government will not take instructions from you.NATHAN
YOU are supposed to take instructions from them
The former British Colonial Secretary once said "Hong Kong will achieve better under foreign rule."
I feel bad for this young man. He will be living in exile for the rest of his life. He will never be able to go back to his homeland, like the fate of 1989 Beijing demonstrators!
Well, no actual footage of the slaughter of the Beijing Demonstrators were found, this story was told by many cult activists (FaLunGong) so I am just gonna leave that one out.
The promise of one ‘country, two systems’ principle has never been overturned and it will not be overturned in the future. And there is no reason to attack the "real patriots governing Hong Kong" policy. The guy named Nathan is an escaped criminal. He ran away and left those who rioted (sorry, "peacefully protested") in the lurch.
Hong Kong is free. It's not North Korea. And without their Pro Democracy riots, it's finally peaceful. Have a great life in UK, Nathan. That's your punishment.
This is so funny, the Chinese guy exactly looks like a stereotypical Chinese official.
They got no personality, you know
They all look the same!
Because you are an idiot!
Hope the UK will pay him well and give him a luxurious council flat to live in. We UK taxpayers will ultimately foot the bill, including the £43m to help those HK BNO passport holders settle in the UK.
BNO holders naturally become UK taxpayers. lol
hahahah.its very funny that you two just keep interrupted mr. gao, why are u so afraid the truth mr. gao is about to say?
The 50 cents army flooding CZcams.
They are #CCP affiliated internet army which targets for propanda. While they surf freely on the internet, the majority of the people in China aren't entitled to do so.
those '50 cents' are being talked about but they actually never get a penny from CHina, however, CIA and 5 eyes paid quite a lot on their side.
@@user-hr6tb9fh8k I guess you are one of those since you seem to know how the inside job works. If not, then don't spread disinformation.
@@dawnnadir If you think 50 cents is enough to buy you so many people fluent in English and argue based on logic and facts, you are really delusional. They are just English-educated Chinese (sometimes even non-Chinese) people fed up with the disinformation campaign being spread around.
@@dawnnadir you say I got paid, aren't you spreading misinformation right now? You kind of people never responsible what you say,, and you accuse others?? What a joke.
Northern Ireland, Scotland, for your freedom and democracy.
I support your departure from Britain. Ha ha ha
The BBC should also support the protests in Britain. It should support the independence of Northern Ireland and Scotland
Lau, you are the one to interrupt others when others are talking. Is this the way you said about “allowing other to talk”?
It was actually the host who was interrupting others
Lol first it is "Law", second let's not forget it is the old man who is taking all of the interview time for himself first.
Victor Ho oh I don’t give a shit about what exactly his family name is. Plus, he also talked a lot, and at the same time Gao didn’t interrupt him while Lau was presenting.
@@user-sd4qo8hq4c yeah is fine addressing the wrong person lol. But at least pay attention on how long the old man had been taking his own sweet time.
@@Mustang-ll9ud in this video, LAU talked for 3mins and 20s, while GAO talked for 4mins and 30s. I don't see a big difference here, especially when the host has asked GAO more questions. BTW, LAU interrupt twice while GAO is talking, and GAO did zero.
The British government need to step in. We should treat them like our own and defend them.
You guys can have Nathan Law forever! And Jimmy Lai can be dumped in U.K. after stripped off his bloody news enterprise! Rubbish disposal !
One country two system is runing good until the dirty hands put into HK from some Western countries.
Oops, let's see who is talking now. Aren't u British army just flee away after Russians throw several bombs as warnings. Brave Britain. Lol.
British Navy, specifically
@@official-hb4mr I'm not sure if you're a native English speaker but we should still help them. Old empires have a duty to their former colonies
Peaceful assembly? I didn't see that... I see only chaos and rioting.
I am proud to see Nathan with his graceful response! Stand with Hong Kong!
Lol u mean the bitter smirk when he is accused as a fugitive. Very graceful then
@@michaelz5497 War is Peace ,Freedom is Slavery , Ignorance is Strength
Twisting the truth wouldn’t get you anywhere, dear supporter of CCP, keep trying tho at the end of the day common sense will prevail
British Bias Channel, you like such protests, just hope to see such "beautiful peaceful protests" all over our country
Pull British judge out of Hongkong . Lol
When I saw the comments here, I am sure that China will be the first power of the world soon. Most people think in ideology rather than in reason.
Those people talking about "one country two systems" policy is dead, only ever wanted "two systems" and threw "one country" into the bin. They say protests were peaceful while avoiding talking about the violence reported in non-western media. They claim the new laws were wrong, while ignoring the fact that the similar law exists in UK US to protect national security. My relatives in Hongkong only want peaceful ordinary life, and people like Nathan Law just don't care about stability of society. They are willing to do things that bring harms to others in pursuit of own belief, which is what we call "selfish".
The 1931 constitution of the Chinese Communist Party accepted secession as legal with article 14 stating “The Soviet government of China recognizes the right of self-determination of the national minorities in China, their right to complete separation from China, and to the formation of an independent state for each national minority.” However, the CCP's change from a revolutionary group to the dominant state power in 1949 led to this language being left out of later constitutions and any legal chance for secession disappeared from Chinese law.
You should either win a war or get support from the majority of Chinese people instead of western countries. Otherwise you're just talking nonsense.
@Roy Taylor
Chinese killed by own government: post 1949 > pre 1949
@caring sharing: You need to see a good psychiatrist as soon as possible.
Hongkong is Han ethinc which means hongkong could not use this as a justification for independence and we are not using this consituion
Meanwhile a group of white asked the original American for help, then in honor of these kind people they created Thanksgiving day and prepared the genocide
in return.
I'm from Hong Kong and have lived here for more than half a century. I'd say no one knows Hong Kong better than the people living here. This Nathan Law is from Mainland China and lived here for just about two decades after Hong Kong was handed over from the U.K. Government to the Chinese Government. He knows nothing about how we lived when Hong Kong was a colony of the U.K. We have now far more rights than before 1997. Nathan Law has tunnel vision and pounces on every opportunity to play the martyr. Don't exaggerate the figure that thousands of people from Hong Kong are fleeing. We're living very well in Hong Kong and won't move to the U.K.
Do you know that at least 3000+ people are applying for visas to the UK every week from HK? 😂
@@Jonosan Did you know that over 600,
000 Canadian passport holders reside in HK currently? The largest concentration of "Canadians" abroad. They mostly got Canadian passports shortly after 1997 but returned to HK to live and make money, then park their cash in Vancouver's housing market. If you think this time will be different, and these HKers will "put roots down" and "integrate" with their host country then you are sorely mistsken.
Canada and UK relaxing their immigration policies to HKers will get what they wished for. Capital Outflow. Piggy banks real estate.
One thing I'm concerned about when China says that something needs to be done lawfully is that in the wrong hands, the law can be used as a weapon.
As an arbitrary example, if I had full power over a government and decided that Chinese people could no longer say anything they think, but people of other nationalities could, then, under rule of law, I could persecute any Chinese person that said that was unfair. But that's not right because you're targeting a specific group based on their nationality. What matters is the morals behind the law. Is the law moral? So, if a law exists that basically says, "Agree with me 100% or fear for your life," and someone says, "I don't agree 100%," under rule of law they can be persecuted, but enacting such a law is morally reprehensible.
Its Law of the Jungle, widely practised by the USA. In fact it's the Pentagon that decides what military action to pursue, and it acts separately from government.
Eisenhowers warnings of the MIC have gone unheeded.
Don't invade Iraq but you have washing powder WMD...OK proceed.
@@pikachus5m166 Correct !!!
That's communist china unfortunately.
The United kingdom should set up an area and let Hongkongers move to there, then build there are own city, the name of the city can be Hongkongers Fugitive City.
Hong Kong doesn’t exist nowadays anyway.
Are you jealous uk government allow Hongkongers migrate to UK? Uk will not like CCP to put people into re-education camp.
Was that the kid asking others to leave classes for protest before he went to Yale?
This Nathan looking to move to America first and cause riots in Hongkong. He had nothing to lose.
Free HongKong!
Cool
It's too late. The world is too chicken to stand up to the evil CCP regime funded by our greed for cheap crap
Free HK from idiot rioters. Thank you China!
Free USA , BLM!!!
Too late........this has long been coming but we have finally woken up from naivete
Nathan should be in jail in US U K for what he has done
Britain is one country, two classes.
Why does the host always interrupt Mr.Gao?
Because Gao spouts a constant stream of Chinese propaganda - it's barely possible to get a word in edgeways. Both guests should have had equal opportunity to talk (and veiled threats shouldn't have been allowed).
BBC just behaves like that way! Interruption to stop others talking!
@@Naptosis Isn't Nantha another constant stream of western propaganda against China? I only know those "peaceful protestors" who invaded American's congress were defined as riots. BTW those riots also claimed that "they are pursuing a justice for the voting and acting under freedom of speech as well as protesting".
That's the BBC way of "freedom of speech"
Why Gao took this as his personal comedy?
under the British colonial rule for 156 years there was NO democracy in Hong Kong so why UK is suddenly concerned about democracy which was absent when Hong Kong was a British colony ?Height of hypocrisy.
Pls read more book, from 1988, democracy is gradually provided from UK gov. If it is not given HK to China. I think it is much better than current situation. We can see a freedom and democracy HK
This is no doubt that Hong Kong police brutality is the thing to blame
I don't know if there is anyone with Nathan's role in Chinese history ever had a good ending.
I believe there is karma
He will have and he shouldn.
bbc should keep an eye on Irish democracy and independence
Nathan should move to Belfast, he will sure going to fly with his anti government skills
Um, Ireland is already an independent country and is not part of the UK, unless you're talking about Northern Ireland.
@@nelic2111 OMG You don't know Belfast is in Northern Ireland, which is a part of the UK.
In india we see this every day drama like this putting to opposite people against each other and let them rant each other bbc is going down hill.
Because they can control India if they want. China? No way.
@@secretgardenofpeter490 Hong Kong has 'most freedom now than the past'?! Jesus Christ, are you still smoking opium?
Keep ranting each other, India! Not a bad thing!
@@jagdpanther2224 more what-about-isms. No one can criticise precious China unless they are perfect themselves! The Chinese government is so fragile.
Is Nathan Law now a British citizen? If so, why is he still interfering in Hong Kong affairs? He should just move on with his life? He has already lost the battle otherwise he would not has fled Hong Kong?
He is in exile but that doesn't matter, his political knowledge is shallow, his brain is a pond of water! He has no political or debating talent at all! He likes disguising himself as a political victim of China, nobody cares this stupid boy: Nathan Law at all!
Funny fact: Jimmy Lai is a UK citizen. U dont see any mentioning in western news piece.
Hi Wumau. He could become a British Subject, as he has a British Passport that was promised to every person that lived in Hong Kong in 1997. Joshua doesn’t want to leave HK. He wants Hong Kong to be free, accountable and democratic.
He also owns several mansions in London and the Home counties, where most of his family are domiciled. Treasonous pos can now live out his fantasy of sacrificing himself for the greater good lmao.
@@GaryGans hahaha first of all its spelt wumao. Also, he holds British passport, not a BNO passport. Get your fact right before u spew ignorance here
@@GaryGans If he really wants whats best for Hongkong, start keep his and his familys citizenship in HK first. Thats how you know he wants whats best for HK, not whats best for himself.
Exile him to UK then.
Nathan Law will be caught and punished
Well said, Nathan! Good debate!
Mr Gao just keep the Chinese way of argument, with no evidence grounded, ignoring the fact , just keep blaming violent, protest~
Perhaps he does not understand what is rule of law and principle of common law, every judgement has to be determine case by case, every case is single incident to judge.
The title is: Hong Kong: Is the one ‘country, two systems’ principle officially over?
Is he invited to discuss for specific 818 case? He do in charge for 818 case?
Well sure there is no evidence from Victor GAO. I have been posting links here to show how the peaceful pro-democracy protesters beat ordinary citizens for not agreeing with them get’s deleted immediately.
Links or video of peaceful pro-democracy protesters ambushing police officer going off duty with axes, knives and hammers were also deleted immediately.
I would like to hear Mr. Gao's full comments without interruption. Host interrupted Mr. Gao at least twice during the 14-minutes interview.
Because the host's main job is to let Nathan Law to speak to the UK audience, while blocking the Chinese guest as much as possible.
@@qfiver1547 Two interruptions in 14 minutes are barely anything at all. Gao spoke for a long time and used some of it to throw veiled threats at the other guest. Gao was privileged to speak as much and as aggressively as he did.
@@Naptosis Link?
@@Naptosis Has the host interrupted Nathan?
@@Naptosis Audience wants to hear from the guest, not the host.
People have a hard time correlate "words" with "reality". When someone said FREEDOM or DEMOCRACY, somehow people associate those words with good deeds. Yet the reality is totally different. People can commit serious violence in the name of FREEDOM or DEMOCRACY. So it is onto you and me to actually WATCH THE FOOTAGE of ACTIONS to understand the DIFFERENCE between words and reality.
EXACTLY, words and reality is different, you really need to search where you moral value stand. BUT, there is universal consensus and values one may up hold, and FREEDOM and DEMOCRACY are important values for many. we can see the track records with footage and actions of these political figures to understand where their value and motivation stands and most importantly are they BEING HONEST and TRUE to the heart? do they have PUBLIC MANDATE to support them?
I can say with confidence that Nathan has both, he is a former elected legislator, and speak about the truth of the on going situation in hong kong, he has been a respectable democratic activist since very young age. its truly inspirational to see this young generation step up and confront the CCP on the international stage.
they are using an indian host, and a fugitive to talk about HongKong riot， what happened to the no negotiate with terrorism
Gao is trying so hard to cover how ugly and shameless the Chinese government is breaking the promise of one country two systems. Thank you Nathan for speaking the truth to the world.
14months? Should be at least 14 years
Hey, all you bots in the comments section. Name ONE thing you don't like about your dictator-for-life. Go ahead. Meanwhile, I can write or say whatever I want about Boris Johnson. See how that works?