Tracksaw chop saw
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- čas přidán 18. 05. 2017
- Hi everyone. I was using one of my little jigs this week and decided that it had seen better days - actually, more that I wasn't really using it the way I thought I would, and to be honest, I could make something better. So here it is; a cheap little jig that turns your tracksaw into a small chop saw - and you don't even need a guiderail. Enjoy!
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This is a hidden gem among many great videos. So glad I found it. You should consider making a newer one just to move it up the list. Can't believe how simple it is, can't believe I've never seen anything like it before. Definitely will be making one for myself. Thanks!!!
Thanks! I probably should! 👍
The Charles Dowding of the woodshop. Nice Idea!
Simple, but someone still has to have the seed of the idea.
Love your ingenuity.
I love that you said it's "simplicity itself". Because it really is. But I never would have thought of it. I have really been enjoying your channel. So much so.... last night I pulled the trigger and ordered the TSC 55. I'm super excited. It's supposed to be here on Monday. Thank you for sharing all your tips and tricks. I would have put it off till I had the money to get it.... the MFT3 and more. But your videos have sort of empowered me to feel like I can do so much more with just getting started with the saw. Again... thanks for sharing.
Thanks! TSC 55 is a great saw - if I was starting out that’s where I’d be putting my money, too. 👍👍
A really useful jig, which will now be my project for next week amongst other things.
Peter doesn't do carpentry jobs any more. He just owns shares in a double sided tape factory.
Well, somebody has to. 🤷♂️😂👍
Hi Peter, you've highlighted a common problem for quite a few of us, even the DIYer's amongst us. I do use a table saw in the workshop with a sled which really does transform the saw itself. The minute I go into one of my chiders houses I'm snookered. I bought a Jet mitre saw but it was big heavy, took up a lot of space and has become less accurate over time. as well as spraying dust every where! I have the Makita track saw and they don't do the shorter length of track and I'm not keen on cutting them down (as I need them for large panel work). So this little gem is just the job. Simple, accurate and it works. Thank you. Regards Mike.
Even if you do have a short rail a little jig like this is very handy, and I'm always amazed by how much better the dust collection is. Thanks!
Mike S the makita runs on festool rails I have the makita saw but festool rails as I used the makita rails for my big circular saw.
Brillant. I will definitely make one of these for my track saw. Thanks.
Thanks for designing this. I didn't want to take my really heavy miter saw to the site to make up some door jambs. I made one of these and used it instead. Worked a treat!!!
Glad to hear it! Thanks for letting me know. 👍👍
The more I watch your videos the more I am excited. Brilliant ideas. I am just waiting for new Bosch GTK 55 - and seems to me it will be a fantastic tool from big to small cuts. Thanks Peter.
Thanks! Great saws, so versatile! 👍
Great idea for a very portable crosscut jig. Nice job.
BronkBuilt Thanks!
I have a small workshop and have been brainstorming how to make my track saw the core sawing tool. Your video really helped show me some more possibilities. Thanks for sharing!
Thanks! 👍👍
Thank you for showing and the idea. I will definitely make up my mind. Really good! Best greetings from Bremen, Germany
+Rudi Ruesay Thanks Rudi! All best from London 👍
Brilliant, thanks for the knowledge and your time.
+Rouben Lambri Thanks!
Excellent jigs Peter so helpful.👍
This is a really good jig, so simple but absolutely excellent.
Thanks! Used mine today, so easy!
Awesome. Just received am TS 55 today and this jig will be one of the first things I gonna build
Thanks! They’re a really handy little jig! 👍👍
Really enjoying your videos Peter, and particularly your small jigs. Great stuff, please keep it up.
Thanks! Will do my best 😄
Simply simply brilliant thank you once again for taking the time to make this and show us all really enjoying your videos and your tutoring thank you if anything I would like to see longer videos of yourself making these marvelous projects thanks again
Thanks Dan! 👍
Just rewatched this video as I will be picking up a track saw in the very near future. Think I will add this little piece of kit to the mix. I used to use a similar guide for my skill saw years ago and this will be a step up from that. ( and that old guide worked great btw) Thank Peter
Thanks! 👍👍
great video Peter , thanks for making it
Youve just made my budget track saw a whole lot more usable (as well as that 'must' keep pile of scraps!!!). Might try both versions or a slight mod on the second one as think the 45 cut idea was great for the saw rail. Thanks!!
👍 Let me know how you get on!
Brilliant, thank you very much for sharing. Greetings from Colombia
You’re welcome - thanks for watching! 👍
Looks great for laminate flooring too!
Benjamin Stephens You bet! 👍
I just like to add that i have two say what a great little invitation....
Great idea, Peter
cute and helpful little jig. thank you for sharing.
of course I wonder how it does with angled, bevel cuts at 22.5 and 45 degrees.I would like to see that.
Hi Peter. I love this. I made a smaller version for my Japanese hand saw. No dust collection but cuts are so small it's not an issue. I also changed my TS55 for the TS75. Great for the work I do but probably a bit big for cutting small trim. Your comment about half a mill cuts is spot on though.
+Anthony James Brown Thanks! 👍
Hi Peter - I think your videos (not just this one) are fantastic. I'm keen hobbyist looking to build my skills up over the next few years to have a nice retirement industry. I've been looking at a track saw (a Titon one) so your comparison videos and this jig vid has helped me make my decision. My long term weekend project is going to be re-making my kitchen cabinets and doors. Keep up the good work - its great to see a well skilled wood working / presenting / video editing UK-based CZcamsr
+orbepa Thanks! Good to hear the videos help 👍
I'll do it with the 50 Bosch plank. Fixing the arm for choosing degrees
I was going to buy a smaller guide rail, but there's no need making something like this. Great idea
+Michael Bailey Thanks! Glad it helped 👍
Wish I had that yesterday😞😞 Fantastic
I have a large manual mitre saw and electric mitre saw and both are big and bulky. This is a great idea so will add this to my to do list.
That list’s growing, is t it?? 😆👍👍
Certainly is!
Brilliant! absolute genius, thank you
Thanks! 👍
Great video, you are becoming my new hero, and yes clamp video please
Thank you. This is video number 049, video number 563 is coming out tomorrow; clamps vid was done a while back 👍 - czcams.com/video/kfWIsh-X8HQ/video.html
Try an adjustable mitre square and a Japanese pull saw, works perfectly
I will be making one old school good tip.
Excellent Peter
It’s probably been mentioned already but I’ll be building one to also do mitres, save lugging the DW 780around 👌
Thanks! 👍👍
Magnificent !!!!
A brilliant solution!
+JoshL Thanks! 👍
I love it that your MFT tops look used. So many shops you see are kept pretty for pictures and no real work is done on them, or so it seems. While I try not to destroy things those tops are tools also and they should be used. And eventually they will need to be replaced. I have a shop not a museum.
Haha - Oh, mine is definitely used, lol! 👍👍
Hi Peter, wished I had found your videos before I purchased a table saw for my very small 1/2 garage workshop. Your track-saw system would have been great for me... oh well. Keep up the good work, very enjoyable and informative projects and tips...cheers
Paul
+paultay23 Haha, Thanks! TBH there’s nothing wrong with a table saw, they just need lots of space around them, which isn’t great in a small workspace. 👍
Thanks a lot for the tutorial!
Thanks! 👍
Thanks for this. I'm going to be cutting mitres for skirting corners and don't want to have to spend on a chop saw.
I've been think how to make of of these up. Great video thanks. I think I'll add a measure and stop and add it onto a kreg work horse 👍
Thanks! Sounds good! 👍👍
Brilliant!
I made something similar years ago when on site and I didn't fancy carrying my chopsaw up several flights of stairs everyday. I used my normal circular saw up until I got the ts55 10 years ago.
Hey Chris. Yeah, me too - had a little cordless Bosch when I first started out, did all kinds of jobs with that 👍
Handy little jig. Thanks
Todd Bailey Always worth having one around 👍
Very clever, thanks for the idea
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Brilliant! Thank you!
Great video. I envy your ability to 'whip' through the task at hand. Your experience shows and I learnt many great tips about workbench and workshop set up from this video alone. You've just earnt yourself another subscriber! Cheers.
Thanks, and welcome! Be sure to check out the back catalogue 👍
great jig Peter thanks for sharing.
Pleasure 👍
Very nice. I also have an 80's Makita chop saw, big and heavy, Freud 90 tooth blade, good for long job/crown moulding/empty condo. Finally bought an HKC cordless good price, (used once!) last week to fix an engineered hardwood floor. The FSK250 track stop adjusters stick down too far to use on a flat surface, so I've been adding clearance height with scrap. I'll take your idea, square two pieces with the trim gap underneath, and use the FSK250 track which I thought too short to be useful, instead of making track guides. Double sided tape, yes. I might make it from some scrap aluminum/aluminium to be posh. Not too likely. Thanks very much. (Then I'll get a patent and get you and the Parf guy to market it and retire rich beyond my dreams. Also no too likely)
Great jig. Would love to see a video on your router table set up.
Steve Bignell Planning on including it in an upcoming 'shop tour, thanks! 👍
Fantastic vid Peter. Wish I'd watched your tracksaw vids a year ago before buying my table saw.😒
Haha, thanks! 👍👍
Awesome jig, loving you content
+na 3578284 Thanks! 👍
Great little jig!!! I love your videos because you only are interested in making your professional life as a custom cabinet maker better, more efficient, or in some way enhances what you do. You don't care about any one brand necessarily, just what works. How refreshing. I am somewhat surprised that Festool hasn't come out with something like this given their obvious goal of getting rid of table saws anywhere on the planet.
Thank you!👍
Good solution! Thumbs up.
Thanks Hans 👍
you're just showing off now Peter!
Peter,
Great jig, so simple intend to make one to go along with my 8ft "board ripper"
I've also invested in a 1400 mm makita track rail , I think then I would have every eventuality covered,
But if you do have any more "eureka moments" regarding solving a problem with the aid of a plunge saw and some birch ply, and double sided tape..!!
(Always keen to veiw your problem-solving at first hand,)
I really like the idea that the plunge saw has the ability to multi task , I've got a decent chop saw, and bench saw but it is such a chore to dig them out of the garden shed every time you want to get a half decent cut on something..!!😤
Anyway, keep up the good work it doesn't go unnoticed by the people in the know ...!!👌👌👍
Thanks Gerry! 👍👍
Peter, this is brilliant
It might be nice if the upper piece was on a hinge so you don't have to slide your piece in. An adjustable mitre angle with positive stops would be amazing. Not sure how to rig that though.
Hiya Peter very enjoyable upload love watching you build different jigs.
Was wondering what the double sided tape you use is? It looks like it might be 3M but wonder exactly which type and where you get it.
Thanks.
Thanks! Usually 3M, Tesa or Mammoth for double-sides, either bought locally or through Amazon. 👍👍
hey nice
what about adding a batten under to make it like a benchhook so you can use it on any table ?
+lola a Thanks! I like to keep 'em totally flat so I can use them on the floor if I need to, but sure, a bench-hook style batten would work 👍
Ingenious!
Thanks! 👍👍
"A few pennies" one can tell this is an old video, this is about £20 worth of timber by todays prices! Lol. Great idea Peter, cheers!
Great share!
That's gonna be my very next project, Peter. *cool*
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Oh yeah!
Thanks for sharing. Lots of food for thought there. Isn't it remarkable how many uses are springing up for the track saw?
Jeff Harmed Tracksaw's a fantastic tool - way more practical than a tablesaw in a small workshop IMHO👍
Hello Peter. Love your vids! Quick question on this jig though. Why cut the right side of the base completely off? I think I would like to have 2-3 inches still there for some support. Plus having the forward fence on both sides of the cut would help prevent tear out. (Like a radial arm saw)
+eidolonnoir Yep, can do. I had that on my original jig and it just made it more compact to cut it down short; there's no hard & fast rule here, whatever works for you is good 👍
Your are brilliant sir
Haha, thank you, 👍👍
Lovin' the quick jig Peter,
nearly had kittens at 9mins24secs when I thought you were gonna cut straight through your bench dog - thank goodness you didn't / good editing -
Great thought processes BY THE WAY - looking fwd to next Friday -
kindest Rgds
Gaz
Gary Coulson HaHa, I'll confess, there's (at least) one of my dogs that has a scar or two, lol 😂 And thanks! 👍
Great video. Can I ask where you got the tracks that are mounted to the edges of your bench?
Thank you! The bench is a Festool Multi-Function Table, or MFT - the hing d rail comes as part of the setup. I did a couple of vids about it recently, videos #182 &183 👍
Very clever.
Thanks!
Hell yes!
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Very cool Peter, you have a new subscriber. Tony from Doncaster.
Tony Mcloughlin Hi Tony, & welcome - be sure to work your way through my back-catalogue 😄👍
Great work Peter! .. I have a sliding mitre saw, but I'm always really annoyed by how much slop there is in the mechanism for it, and I'm never confident it's going to give an absolute square cut, should I happen to put slightly to much weight into the cut. I've fettled with the works on it and tightened the mechanisms up as much as I can without it becoming too stiff, but it's still not good for fine joinery (not that I'm any good yet). I like this idea because my tracksaw has no play, and as you're building this jig yourself, you can correct for any squareness issues.
Simply genius! I made a cross cut jig for but circ saw but it was rubbish compared to this. Definitely need to have another go!
Thanks! 👍
Now your gonna have to make the deluxe model ,that can be turned to a cut 45%,i usually make them as i need them on the job ,with something that can double as a shooting board to tighten the cut up if need be ,but they use a lot of MDF trim here on the lower priced homes ,so little glue and painters chalking does the trick
Now you're giving away the plot of the next video, lol 😂
Hi Peter great vid! can you tell me which model of Ryobi nail gun you are using with staples? I thought they were only for use with nails.
Hi Graham. It’s a Ryobi air strike stapler - they don’t make a mailer/stapler, unfortunately.
G'day Peter, it's an ongoing challenge mate for the advertisers of tools to get us to make that purchase, I suppose we need to be thorough in reviewing or make something ourselves, anyhow nicely presented video mate, cheers Sumo 👍👍👍
Thanks! 👍
How brilliant is this 😁
Haha, thanks, 👍👍
That is brilliant! Could one be done for using on the 45 for mitres??
Absolutely - my first version had two positions for 90/45,m. What I found though was that changing between the two caused rapid wear and made it inaccurate quite quickly - moreso on the 45 than the 90. Maybe a fixed 45 would be a good idea 👍👍
I wondered if it could be done with the saw tilted over at 45 rather than moving the track to a 45?? I might have to have an experiment with my friends saw!! :)
Oh, I see. Sure, could be done. You get a different cut-line on the base, of course, which may wear prematurely. But yes, why not 👍
It's always good to read the comments to a video. I just wanted to ask the same.
How useful could it be if it had a stop to prevent sliding forward, and it was just the plunge action for the cut?
Yes, you could do that. I prefer a slider, myself 🤷♂️👍
Good idea
SP Bygga Thanks! 👍
Superb. Mine will be deeper to take 3x2.
+Graham Orm Sounds good👍
Hi, I have only just started watching and find your tips very useful. The videos I have watched have always involved the clamps on your MFT. what are these as they seem so simple to use?
Thanks Brian
Thanks! Not sure which clamps you mean, but they're probably either the Festool Guiderail clamps, or the Festool surface/fixed (MFT) clamps. Festool 488030 Surface clamps or fixed clamps- amzn.to/2O1OLXv or Festool lever clamp - amzn.to/2pOohLD HTH P
@@10MinuteWorkshop it was the second one. Not cheap though are they! Thanks
Hi Peter, I’ve just found your channel whilst looking for track saw reviews. Very informative and some great advise. Love the jig you made to. Just wanted to know what extraction unit you use when working in homes? As I run my own handyman business. I know festool do the midi and the compact systern one. And collecting dust is always a concern. Thanks in advance. Andy 👍
Hi Andy and welcome! I used a Midi for years, then went with the CTL SYS when it came out - love it! Be sure to check out the back catalogue, I did a fairly recent 'Two years with my CTL SYS' video that may be of interest - czcams.com/video/uqizB4w3Tps/video.html. BTW I started out doing handyman stuff, hard graft but you can grow it into an area you're most interested in 👍
Peter Millard - Thanks for the advise Peter. I'll check out the video. Keep up the great channel. 👍🛠
Great vid, liked and subscribed.
+Mr2at Thanks!
Hi did you do a vid on your track saw how you fit it to your bench ???
+joseph woodhouse No - it’s an off-the-shelf Festool MFT, the hinged rail comes as part of the package. Keep an eye out for an upcoming bench build though - trying to incorporate the hinged rail idea into that 👍
Another excellent video Peter. No doubt you are the king of track saw techniques. Can you confirm the size of the small piece you used to insert into the groove on the bottom of your Festool track saw? I believe you said it was 16mm x 16mm?
Haha, thanks! It’s 16x6mm👍
Do you see any reason not to make one of these for cross cutting 2x4 lumber? The dust collection on a track saw beats any miter or circular saw out there including Festool. I am not cutting long pieces. Thanks, great video.
Thanks! No, no reason other than these saws can only cut 50mm on the rail, so a/ you’ll be working right at the limit of it’s capacity, and b/ obviously you’ll only be able to cut a 4x2 one way. But it’ll work, yes. 👍👍
keep it wide and make a bit where you can put a stopblock on for repetitive cuts
Hi Peter which brand double sided tape do you use ? Thanks
+stukyu Mostly Tesa tape 👍
Peter, I have had a Makita compound chop saw for around 5yrs, I have toyed with moving it on a few times but It has become sentimental. It has saved me loads of time when I refurbished properties on 1st &2nd fix work. It chops joists like butter and can still deliver 100% accuracy on mitres and square cuts and is easy to transport around. I have had it serviced 3 times at £75 a pop. Now even with a track saw I cannot bring myself to part with it. As for the Nobex, That was my first cordless chop saw for fitting kitchens. It's great on laminates when doing pelmets, kick rails and light rails etc.(picture frames also it you are into that) I sold mine when the Makita came on the scene. As for the jigs you make I think they are wonderful tools to have in the box. I wish I knew you a few years back we could have made a few bob! Thanks for the vid it made an otherwise a dull day much brighter.
Thanks Michael! 👍
It would be a great idea to make another fence just under that one at a 45 degree angle to cut miters.
+Nesley Heiney Thanks! I did have that on my original jig but tbh I found I rarely used it, so I left it off this one. Absolutely nothing to stop you putting one in if you feel the need though 👍
🤣🤣🤣 That’s brilliant! 👍👍
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Total beginner here.. I love the ingenuity! Would the Festool HK 55 on its FSK guide rail render this unnecessary or would this have other applications?
Thanks :)
I think the HK/FSK combo is great for short cuts in, say, floorboards, where the rail is supported by the timber, but this little jig excels at small-section mouldings, e.g. architrave and trim, where the rail isn’t supported by the stock. 👍
Ahh I can see that now... I'd love to build one as a wee starter project
Thank you so much for the quick reply. All the best