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  • Here's the second episode of the VS series where we compare two big burly beefy boys representing one of the oldest rivalries of all time: Garen VS Darius! Time to find out which juggernaut is officially the better one!
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Komentáře • 759

  • @El_Bellota
    @El_Bellota Před 2 lety +1199

    Shurima.

  • @RichardMartinMusic
    @RichardMartinMusic Před 2 lety +871

    Garen’s Lore: “I hate magic”
    **Invokes big magic sword from the sky.

    • @stormdragon2529
      @stormdragon2529 Před 2 lety +57

      his ult is not canon. in lore he cant use magic , he's just a really strong solider with really big armor.

    • @Jo-Heike
      @Jo-Heike Před 2 lety +92

      The ability is called Demacian Justice, and the description says he calls on the Might of Demacia. Also, all his abilties are like that, Percerverence, Desicive Strike, Courage, and Jugment. They're all virtues (or action virtues), of Demacia.

    • @AEVAN00B
      @AEVAN00B Před 2 lety +136

      "Ignorant of the very magic you carry into battle. How Demacian."

    • @ABB-zh9gm
      @ABB-zh9gm Před 2 lety +80

      @@stormdragon2529 its kayle sword btw necrit explention

    • @dunkelheit8594
      @dunkelheit8594 Před 2 lety +29

      It's kayle's sword

  • @egggbone5800
    @egggbone5800 Před 2 lety +707

    Sylas' lore actually allowed us to figure out that petricite doesn't block magic it absorbs it allowing sylas to absorb magic and push it out. If it just inhibited it galio wouldn't exist

    • @smontherun1430
      @smontherun1430 Před 2 lety +17

      for short, it's a battery

    • @cloroxholic
      @cloroxholic Před 2 lety +52

      @@smontherun1430 more of a sponge

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Před 2 lety +7

      @@cloroxholic or a solar 🔋

    • @paztah2194
      @paztah2194 Před 2 lety +22

      Until it’s not *cough* ruined king event *cough* . I hate that viego can just stroll around in demacia without being reduced to a dried corpse

    • @smontherun1430
      @smontherun1430 Před 2 lety +1

      @@TheReZisTLust Bruh, that's a battery but downgraded. Petricite can react to almost all types of magic, solar batteries can only take in certain type of energy and it's heat. The marks don't work that way (as far as we know)

  • @VechsDavion
    @VechsDavion Před 2 lety +123

    Garen is the best champion to be playing when you start to wonder: "Is this game winnable?" :)

  • @wedwastaken2362
    @wedwastaken2362 Před 2 lety +1056

    Garen 1000 true dmg nuke has a easier requirement than darius 1000 true dmg nuke

    • @HamsterPants522
      @HamsterPants522 Před 2 lety +86

      True, but I think Darius R has a higher HP threshold for the execute than Garen R. At least, that's what it's seemed like.

    • @michaelharis9962
      @michaelharis9962 Před 2 lety +190

      But Darius ult can reset

    • @patrickliu2001
      @patrickliu2001 Před 2 lety +57

      The reset is not to be taken lightly with in a team fight

    • @maddog_majima9553
      @maddog_majima9553 Před 2 lety +11

      Darius ult can help him get his passive stacks instantly or something for a team fight right? I am new so I don't know since I don't him play much but doesn't it become a major damage powerup?

    • @icewrack9152
      @icewrack9152 Před 2 lety +18

      @@maddog_majima9553 Basically, yes- it's because it resets that makes it powerful over a long drawn out fight- but Garen has more upfront damage so it depends on who is playing the champion and how it is being played.

  • @t-1156
    @t-1156 Před 2 lety +535

    I personally just love how their kits mirror each other almost perfectly :
    Garen passives: Bonus regen and bonus resistances
    Darius Passives: A bleed and bonus AD
    Garen actives: An AA reset that speeds him up, a spin over time that reduces enemy durability, a shield, a single target execute
    Darius actives: An AA reset that slows enemies, an instantaneous spin that increases his own survivablity, armor penetration, a single target execute.

  • @kulovicz3152
    @kulovicz3152 Před 2 lety +281

    Honestly, it might be other way around. Noxus was built around Darius design-wise, and so was to certain extent Demacia. This is why are they so great in representation of their kingdoms, for they are founding stones for their culture.

    • @nebeskisrb7765
      @nebeskisrb7765 Před 2 lety +51

      Modern Noxus, yeah. But originally Noxus was way more evil and while they talked about strength their champions tended to be more of cunning, assassin sorts (Katarina and Talon came out before Darius). Even Darius was originally more of a ambitious soldier rising through the ranks through murdering his higher-ups.
      Garen, on the other hand, was perfect representation of Demacia from day 1. Demacia was originally more good, it didn't have the whole hate for mages thing.

    • @DeadDystroyer
      @DeadDystroyer Před 2 lety +9

      @@nebeskisrb7765 I honestly like the fact that Riot made Demacia and Noxus more nuanced, in a sense I think it is because of the different way our society views good and evil in entertainment nowadays compared to the past.

    • @amosdeguzman9980
      @amosdeguzman9980 Před 2 lety +5

      @@DeadDystroyer Nuanced? They turned Demacia into a hatesink, and Noxus fans think their country is perfect. Nevermind all the atrocities, that was under Boram Darkwill, they don't count apparently.

    • @nebeskisrb7765
      @nebeskisrb7765 Před 2 lety +8

      @@DeadDystroyer I don't. Ruination event showed that the corporate greed will take precedent over any lore consistency, so I'd rather have a wacky setting filled with tropes and character archetypes so I don't mind when Rito does something silly for the sake of money because it wasn't a serious setting to begin with.

  • @victor-oh
    @victor-oh Před 2 lety +173

    Darius wants to extend the fight, he revels in it, while Garen wants to end it or take out a high priority target

  • @MrL1193
    @MrL1193 Před 2 lety +97

    Something else you neglected to mention when talking about endurance: Darius's ability usage is limited by mana. Garen's isn't.

    • @koibiscuitspog336
      @koibiscuitspog336 Před 2 lety +7

      Garen can theoretically stay in lane indefinitely as long as he can dodge a few skillshots.

    • @Chaotic-warp
      @Chaotic-warp Před rokem +6

      @@koibiscuitspog336 even if a few shots hit him (nobody can perfectly dodge), he can just camp under the tower to heal.

  • @JPX7NGD
    @JPX7NGD Před 2 lety +282

    In wild rift, garen and darius are similar except: darius is annoying in low rank but useless in high rank, whereas garen shreds even in challenger.

    • @171xlr
      @171xlr Před 2 lety +83

      Not having potions makes Garen passive way more valueble. Its so funny to trade with rivens, lose the trade but than just wait for some seconds so your passive do the job and Riven has less and less HP

    • @simplyded1055
      @simplyded1055 Před 2 lety +24

      Couldn't agree with you more, I Maines Darius and have soo many games on him, but as I got into better lobbies and as he got nerfed, just switched to garen and having a good time, sure this boring, but winning I guess

    • @listener8228
      @listener8228 Před 2 lety +5

      Garen will demolish Darius most of the time in wild rift.

    • @peekInsideThisHellOfMine
      @peekInsideThisHellOfMine Před 2 lety +5

      Yeah, garen crushes darius in lane. And garen is also too damn tanky and has hardly any bad match up. While almost anyone could bear darius in lane nowadays

    • @vildan1080
      @vildan1080 Před 2 lety

      yeah let's just forget that Darius literally carried Team Queso

  • @True_Damage69
    @True_Damage69 Před 2 lety +114

    Virgin imprison and torture people because they are a mage VS Chad equality and fairness for everyone

    • @wendigopain7600
      @wendigopain7600 Před 2 lety +13

      Except for that if ur born weak , you straight up dont deserve too live (im a darius 1 trick)

    • @avalosp
      @avalosp Před 2 lety +18

      @@wendigopain7600 Noxus doesn't care if ur born weak lol

    • @HamsterPants522
      @HamsterPants522 Před 2 lety +35

      @@wendigopain7600 Everyone's born weak. Noxians don't care about how you're born, only how you grow.

    • @nintendope2976
      @nintendope2976 Před 2 lety +1

      Don’t forget imperialism

    • @HamsterPants522
      @HamsterPants522 Před 2 lety +13

      @@nintendope2976 An empire can in some respects be closer to fairness than a kingdom.

  • @isislikesyou8605
    @isislikesyou8605 Před 2 lety +28

    A racist towards those who wield magic
    VS
    A axe wielding freedom loving uniting people

    • @JPX7NGD
      @JPX7NGD Před 2 lety +3

      you mean a psychopath for the second.

    • @thebudking5354
      @thebudking5354 Před 2 lety

      how tf can you be RACIST against magic LMAO

    • @alessandrocoatti5186
      @alessandrocoatti5186 Před 2 lety +5

      ah yes, noxus, definitely the most freedom loving nation. they definitely don't torture and kill those who do not submit to them, totally.

    • @hello-gx6oi
      @hello-gx6oi Před 2 lety

      @@thebudking5354 if magic is real
      People that don't have magic will feel a disadvantage
      And if you read the lore kn the game
      Magic had ruined a lot of peoples lives

    • @donny7841
      @donny7841 Před 2 lety

      @@thebudking5354 Magicist

  • @ryyfromsteam2404
    @ryyfromsteam2404 Před 2 lety +52

    Hi im rank 39 Garen na and I just wanna let you know that you did an amazing job with this video. Darius is my second main, sett is my third, I am mostly a juggernaut player, I think most of what u said is entirely correct I could tell you knew your stuff but theres only one thing I want to correct/cover. Regarding the mobility part, thanks to I am Sunlight (a garen main that recently hit challenger in NA), higher elo garen mains started taking ghost over ignite as this is what sunlight has been doing, and obv it provides better scaling. Because of this, Garen beats darius in terms of speed even harder but about the black cleaver thing, unfortunately black cleaver's movement speed got nerfed when stride got hit aswell, and we don't allways build cleaver (its probs more common in lower elos tbh i wouldnt be surprised), in fact I would say I find myself building cleaver only 1/5 of my games so it's very situational (im sure you know this). Other than that, very educated video thanks had a great time enjoying my food :D

    • @maomekat2369
      @maomekat2369 Před 2 lety +1

      What is your high rank garden, Darius & set builds. Which boot which mythic which 2nd/3rd item? (Any tank items?)

  • @JPX7NGD
    @JPX7NGD Před 2 lety +113

    Also, garen is considered a full tank in wild rift. One of three in the game.

    • @hello-gx6oi
      @hello-gx6oi Před 2 lety +16

      I build him ad
      And it's fun
      I can just nuke em

    • @syakizz0484
      @syakizz0484 Před 2 lety +2

      Bro that was hard nerfed like 4-5 patches ago.

    • @muff1nb0y46
      @muff1nb0y46 Před 2 lety +6

      Still does a lot of damage even by building full tank lmao

    • @KURENANI
      @KURENANI Před 2 lety +1

      @@hello-gx6oi i build him with full speed items, its so fun seeing your enemies unable to escape and kill you when low

    • @maguc5906
      @maguc5906 Před 2 lety +4

      Garden going full tank is one of the best counter for ranged tops on WF in my opinion. He still does a lot of damage going full tank and he survives so much

  • @kenneil_skt926
    @kenneil_skt926 Před 2 lety +54

    Great video, so who's next:
    Rengar and Kha'zik
    Nasus and Renekton
    Zed and Shen (idk if I should put them as rivals in game though since they don't share the same lane)

    • @d.ml.g9902
      @d.ml.g9902 Před 2 lety +8

      Can be Zed vs Akali.
      Other vs can be, Fiora vs Jax
      Lilia vs Hecarim
      Rhaast vs Aatrox

    • @xi9ro903
      @xi9ro903 Před 2 lety +6

      @@d.ml.g9902 pantheon vs Aatrox

    • @jader8799
      @jader8799 Před 2 lety +3

      @@xi9ro903 TRYND VS AATROX

    • @xi9ro903
      @xi9ro903 Před 2 lety +3

      @@jader8799 lore wise its pantheon vs aatrox aatrox is litrally in pathen splash art bg

    • @jaishkhan7442
      @jaishkhan7442 Před 2 lety +1

      senna vs lux (not rivals but they're the same champ basically)

  • @jeluenhayo2410
    @jeluenhayo2410 Před 2 lety +18

    I'd say it's one of your best videos, Vars - both in montage quality and narrative department. Keep up the good work!

  • @guus3665
    @guus3665 Před 2 lety +34

    Suggestion for a next vid: rengar vs kha zix the battle of the assasin junglers

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 Před 2 lety +1

      Rengar is a little forgotten these times, unlike Kha'Zix

    • @dasaniwater1618
      @dasaniwater1618 Před 2 lety +1

      @@indrickboreale7381 I’m a Kha’zix player but it’s still sad to see your rival so down low. Also we don’t get to do any nemesis duels.

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Před 2 lety

      @@dasaniwater1618 ranger kinda been fuckled since his rework

  • @lolosh99
    @lolosh99 Před 2 lety +15

    Wow this series improved so much in just one episode. Keep up the good work.

  • @hyperN1337
    @hyperN1337 Před 2 lety +6

    The one extra factor I've noticed in why Darius is more popular too, is because Darius's all in ability makes snowballing easier. A fed Darius is a lot scarier than a fed Garen, but on the flip side of things; a Darius that falls behind is useless, but a Garen that falls behind is still good at chonkiness and ult prio blow ups.

  • @theodorluminshield4367
    @theodorluminshield4367 Před 2 lety +68

    As a Garen and Darius main, I absolutely loved this video. I'm really exited for the next champion VS!

    • @Siinful448
      @Siinful448 Před 2 lety +3

      I would kill for a god king Mordekaiser skin

  • @MichaelZesty
    @MichaelZesty Před 2 lety +1

    Hey Vars, loved the video!
    I just wanted to mention, you completely neglected to address the differences between the way both champs apply their armor shredding, with Garen's judgement shredding the targets armor directly after enough spins, potentially allowing his team to more effectively deal with a heavily armored frontline and Darius's penetration being purely a boost to his own damage through his apprehend passive, I know that this is indeed a small detail but I think covering all the little, lesser known factors/mechanics is also what makes these kinds of videos fun and interesting and is what always brings me back to your vids ^^
    Keep up the great work, I'd personally love to see a comparison between two of my favorite characters, Aatrox and Rhaast!

  • @Kingdramana
    @Kingdramana Před 2 lety +3

    I really liked this version. Much more fun to watch! Good job!

  • @williamsmith6364
    @williamsmith6364 Před 2 lety +64

    I just want to point out that darius ult imo is one of the best designed ults in the game. And yes while it is just a ton of dmg with resets the his kit fits perfectly with it. Your chasing the enemy irelia eventually she gets hit 5 times and then you split her in 2 while your moving at 500 ms hunting for your next victim. Its so good that his ult even has its own lore and some champions don't.

    • @williamsmith6364
      @williamsmith6364 Před 2 lety +24

      Also not only your enemies but your own minions become terrified as they watch someone being brutally ripped apart.

    • @ruth0919
      @ruth0919 Před 2 lety

      True.
      One of the best parts in his gameplay

    • @TheElectriczil
      @TheElectriczil Před 2 lety +1

      What is the lore

    • @andrej7840
      @andrej7840 Před 2 lety +1

      Darius is objectively the best designed champion in the game. No, i won't argue why.

    • @ruth0919
      @ruth0919 Před 2 lety +1

      @@andrej7840 I agree

  • @indifference6004
    @indifference6004 Před 2 lety +9

    I like how even their passives are opposites. Garen heals over time while Darius deals damage over time.

  • @mal9369
    @mal9369 Před 2 lety +15

    I think that the format of this video was superior to the other one. Looking forward to the next one in this series!

  • @eliasalnaimi3490
    @eliasalnaimi3490 Před 2 lety

    I just found your channel since your yordel video came on my recommended page, i really like the music and how you are chill when you talk. I really needed this in a league youtuber, i think you are different compared to most other LOL youtubers, and I love it already. Keep up the good work

  • @tomatrowlite
    @tomatrowlite Před 2 lety

    This seemed minor & I didn't see anyone talking about this, but THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR GIVING YOUR VIDEO CAPTIONS!!! (or subtitles or whatever those are)
    I truly love you & thank you for that, please keep adding them in the future, because it helps SOOOO MUCH in trying to understand your interesting materials in each video!!!!

  • @Archi07_
    @Archi07_ Před 2 lety

    I really liked the edit and it's style in this video. Especially the lightning effect on the words. Pretty cool.

  • @SetupCarrier
    @SetupCarrier Před 2 lety

    This was a great video! Been trying to explain this to my friends for a while

  • @Rukir
    @Rukir Před 2 lety

    Oh nice, full subtitles! Thanks for that

  • @QuentinB20
    @QuentinB20 Před 2 lety

    Great video as always !

  • @collinharris4848
    @collinharris4848 Před 2 lety

    I like these analysis videos that don't really focus on an argument. Your content fits it well

  • @Za_Phantom
    @Za_Phantom Před 2 lety

    this one was much cleaner than the last. good job.

  • @elrodab3554
    @elrodab3554 Před 2 lety +1

    Wow this is actually a very good content! good job!!!

  • @couragethekowardlydog5291

    Great video. Love the series and hoping for a mage comparison soon.

  • @King_atk_darK
    @King_atk_darK Před 2 lety

    This video is way better hope you make more!

  • @GbrlDown
    @GbrlDown Před 2 lety

    This one was much better. Good job!

  • @Joshuakartawinata
    @Joshuakartawinata Před 2 lety

    Love the long form educational content

  • @Wotvr
    @Wotvr Před 2 lety +3

    Honestly a great comparison here and I think it was pretty fair. The only thing I think worth mentioning in the teamfighting section on Garen is that if he can get 6 spins on a target (which is almost guaranteed because of how his spins scale) he reduces that target's armor by 25% for 6 seconds. It isn't going to sway the topic in his favor, but it's certainly a small amount of utility he brings to the table worth covering. Darius has a similar armor penetration on his E, but that only works for himself.

    • @DKClaude3D
      @DKClaude3D Před 2 lety

      I agree
      Alongside Black Cleaver, he can shred about 45% of the enemy armor, which helps a LOT when you have a heavy AD focused team, or when the enemy has several tanks.

    • @jeremytewari3346
      @jeremytewari3346 Před 2 lety

      Darius reliably builds cleaver which has comparable armor shred while Garen builds more tank

  • @lordsnia2152
    @lordsnia2152 Před 2 lety

    .............comment section is a battle field already😂😂🍻
    very good comparison. loving the format of this series. keep them coming. i wonder who will be next duo. Nasus and Renekton? Brand and Zyra? Janna and Nami? or other enchanters?
    thanks for such good quality content. wish you well.

  • @theflamingassassin2426
    @theflamingassassin2426 Před 2 lety +1

    Just an appreciation comment for the Fire Emblem music Vars uses in the background of pretty much every video

  • @MusicKnowsAll
    @MusicKnowsAll Před 2 lety

    LOVE this series!!

  • @ahriplays9436
    @ahriplays9436 Před 2 lety

    I really like that you include the lore!

  • @ioiwut4874
    @ioiwut4874 Před 2 lety +12

    i feel like garen's w, if timed properly can ALMOST be considered mobility. i know its just cc mitigation, but yeah

  • @General__Grievous
    @General__Grievous Před 2 lety +2

    9:46 wow that pull hit box lmao

  • @1XXL1
    @1XXL1 Před 2 lety +34

    *Darius is the best.*
    He looks cool, his skills are cool and he says cool quotes :D
    Also, I'm a Darius main if you haven't guessed yet :p

    • @rageixi1422
      @rageixi1422 Před 2 lety

      Garen and Darius are very equal.
      They feel almost the same when I play them,only difference is that garen can pull of things a Darius could only dream off in terms of constant bullshit

    • @God-KingDarius
      @God-KingDarius Před 2 lety

      @@rageixi1422 and what would that be? I don't see garen two-shotting the enemy adc building tank.

    • @rageixi1422
      @rageixi1422 Před 2 lety +1

      @@God-KingDarius neither does darius,because all of his damage comes from his passive,which needs to be procced.
      Full tank darius is hilariously slow and gets bursted by adcs,to get up 5 stacks you would need years.
      Furthermore your ULT SCALES OF ATTACK DAMAGE,so it does next to no damage if you dont have any bruiser items.
      Garen on the other hand builds full tank speed items and literally just shreds armor until he can R.
      Darius is simply inferior because of the effort put in,you will int a whole lot more and die than a garen.
      They take different levels and kinds of skill,garen is simply logically better than darius due to the lack of high counterplay.

    • @lilpp4791
      @lilpp4791 Před 2 lety +1

      Garen is so boring tho idk how anyone can main him

    • @smartt.v.4110
      @smartt.v.4110 Před 2 lety +1

      @@rageixi1422 a good darius will destroy a good garen. and i build only triforce as bruiser item on darius and i 2 shot all adcs with a w r no ulti no 5 stacks. besides, he excels against engage supports, who just feed him the 5 stacks needed to 1v5. give darius ghost and hes a garen with 500 ad at 5 stacks and the hp of a tahm kench and a 45% hp heal on q if u hit multiple targets. garen is just q e w r, no outplay potential. a good darius can and will 1v5

  • @Sigmauer
    @Sigmauer Před 2 lety

    if its not too much of a pain i would recommend making different trophies for each category just so its easier to see what round they won. But this was way better put together than the last one. cant wait for the next one

  • @brianlampugnani1911
    @brianlampugnani1911 Před 2 lety +1

    Something that was not mentioned is thet Garen doesn´t use mana! considering the lore, that´s cool. Continue doing this kind of videos, I really enjoy them!

  • @santiagolopezrubio211
    @santiagolopezrubio211 Před 2 lety

    I loved it!!! Keep going

  • @lorieslori8051
    @lorieslori8051 Před 2 lety +4

    Corny evil empire aesthetic with hidden depth >>>>> lame knights and kings aesthetic with racism in package

  • @michaelharis9962
    @michaelharis9962 Před 2 lety +12

    GLORY TO THE NOXIAN EMPIRE

    • @JPX7NGD
      @JPX7NGD Před 2 lety +1

      the people who live there hate it.

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 Před 2 lety +3

      @@JPX7NGD Would you rather serve fearful nobles in fancy armors or mighty empire?

    • @God-KingDarius
      @God-KingDarius Před 2 lety

      @@JPX7NGD not everyone hates it

  • @Colorless_Reaper
    @Colorless_Reaper Před 2 lety

    Petricite is actually petrified wood with magical channeling properties it is mostly used to stop magic flow but it can be used to channel magic like Galio(making him awake and be "alive") and Sylas(making him able to steal others magic and use as it's own)

  • @bjarneclaesen1801
    @bjarneclaesen1801 Před 2 lety +3

    I personally enjoy Garen more since his kit is more reliable (no missable skills no reliance hitting Q or getting stacks) plus the spin feels like a very iconic ability in any video game. On top of that garen has a lot of extra's in his kit like the slow cleanse on Q, the resist stacks on W and the armor shred, isolation dmge on E. His W is also very skill expressive and feels like using a fiora parry correctly to block cc, which is always really satisfying. I guess I like him more because I like tanks in general more but still. Also I like blue more than I do red and peace over war and the whole lore stuff. I just wish he was better in higher elo so I could see more streamers play him.

  • @narraator118
    @narraator118 Před 2 lety

    This was pretty nice. I felt like this was done better than the last one.
    Aurelion Sol vs Zoe would be nice to see. (though I know it's a bit more out there)

  • @thatotherguy8138
    @thatotherguy8138 Před 2 lety +3

    Something that would be useful would be a more explicit analysis as to how their kits influence their playstyles. Garen favours slow, patient and targeted actions. Darius favours all-out attack, pretty much at all times. One style resonates far more with the player base than the other, which is why Darius wins.
    Personally, I like playing Garen more than Darius. But I like playing Tanks, and Garen is very close to being a Tank.

  • @12sett70
    @12sett70 Před 2 lety +5

    "Short Ranged and pretty slow character"
    Garen: press Q

  • @supportmain8509
    @supportmain8509 Před 2 lety +1

    PLS do more of this

  • @eddiethepanda4205
    @eddiethepanda4205 Před 2 lety

    That thresh at 2:26 is honestly the best support I have seen

  • @alexkirov9300
    @alexkirov9300 Před 2 lety

    Hey Vars i really like this series for the next episode can you do Morgana VS Kayle?

  • @galaxygod9962
    @galaxygod9962 Před 2 lety

    Vars really loves the expression former and the latter

  • @jbvc243
    @jbvc243 Před 2 lety

    I think you should redo the Yasuo vs Yone video in the future, when you feel that the way you structure this series is concrete and you're sure how to compare the champions (liking the new way so far, and I'm curious how the wind brothers stack against one another).

  • @kokodera8323
    @kokodera8323 Před 2 lety

    I like this pairing series. Please do more.
    Kha'zix vs. Rengar, Sona vs. Seraphine, Camille vs. Jarvan 4 (I am pushing here but their ultimate are made closed arena. Or maybe for discussing champs that isolated opponent),, or Zed vs. Akali

  • @wendigopain7600
    @wendigopain7600 Před 2 lety +18

    Thats the fught between racism and giga chads rule,there is only 1 answer
    NOXUS MIGHT!

    • @JPX7NGD
      @JPX7NGD Před 2 lety +1

      No.

    • @indrickboreale7381
      @indrickboreale7381 Před 2 lety +2

      You don't need to fear magic when you are strong enough

    • @walkelftexasranger
      @walkelftexasranger Před 2 lety +1

      @Arita Akimichi Do you even know what ''rape'' is ? Noxus didn't rape anybody ,they were slaughtering Ionians ,because Boran Darkwill and Black Rose ordered it.
      Also there is differemce between old Noxus and current Noxus. It's like comparing WW2 Italy with Modern Italy - Just complete nonsense.

    • @alessandrocoatti5186
      @alessandrocoatti5186 Před 2 lety

      @@walkelftexasranger isn't modern noxus at war against ionia and destroying their land?

    • @hello-gx6oi
      @hello-gx6oi Před 2 lety

      Noxus has done a lot of war crimes
      And ohh invade ionia
      Kill their own soldiers like in Zhao
      Use gas to kill master his whole village
      Use children for war like kayn

  • @yarn7733
    @yarn7733 Před 2 lety +1

    Ryze vs brand seems interesting also loving the series

  • @chrismeakins4480
    @chrismeakins4480 Před 2 lety

    Hey man, new subscriber here. Really like your content, really like the pace and the flow of it :) .
    As someone who's not good at league as I find a lot of the information out there about it rather confusing and almost gate keeping as the content creates expect you to know every in and out of league before watching the video, I love your content as it is very friendly to people who haven't been playing this game for forever and know every bit of information.
    BTW your voice is perfect for CZcams as its calming, yet you compose yourself as knowledgeable but not pretentious. Good work mate, sincerely , a trash bronze MF :)

  • @LucasLima-sb6cp
    @LucasLima-sb6cp Před 2 lety +23

    I have an odd suggestion that doesn't exactly fot into the lore department: Zyra x Brand, the two most famous mage supports.

  • @clorcestv
    @clorcestv Před 2 lety +1

    I don't quite get what's ironic in Sylas using petricite to cast magic.
    It's like saying "Buckets are designed to hold water in them. Ironic how gardeners use them to pour it out." Petricite was made to hold the magic within, not to nullify or suck it in forever as a black hole, Sylas knows how to release it.

    • @floraflowergarden
      @floraflowergarden Před 2 lety

      It's ironic because Demacian's use it to protect/block against magic but Sylas uses it to "cast" magic.

  • @joopsie95
    @joopsie95 Před 2 lety

    Ornn vs Voli coming?? Great vid btw

  • @jamesoverbuild9496
    @jamesoverbuild9496 Před 2 lety

    Something some dude mentioned on a video long time ago (I really don't remeber who) One characteristic Garen has, is that from the beginning, whether you are playing as or against him, you'll know who'll win the trade since the beginning, so you can avoid fighting if you know you'll get the short end of the stick.
    On the other side, Darius has more skill expression and also a bit more counterplay only by the way his Q works, you can avoid so much damage and avoid him healing just by trying to stick to him as much as you can. I know that right now and since the Ghost-Nimbus Cloak Darius, with Trinity, his current playstyle is quite degenerate, but his overall kit design is pretty decent and I find it more enjoyable to both fight as or against than Garen's one.

  • @alexandermiles483
    @alexandermiles483 Před 2 lety

    Some other ideas for Champion versus?
    Kha'Zix and Rengar?
    Nasus and Renekton?

  • @edeggleton3635
    @edeggleton3635 Před 2 lety

    I know that they never play against each other but I would love a Kayle vs Morgana video

  • @KeplerX
    @KeplerX Před 2 lety +56

    Garen is for under 18, 5'3" beta males. Darius is for 6'4" Xylophone males who do taxes and the laundry and other adult shit that I can't think of right now on the spot.

    • @JPX7NGD
      @JPX7NGD Před 2 lety +8

      you have that backwards.

    • @DronesOverTheMoon
      @DronesOverTheMoon Před 2 lety +3

      Darius mains are the chads that let their jungle take their farm

    • @crookedsun533
      @crookedsun533 Před 2 lety

      @@DronesOverTheMoon you are clearly wrong. Should really see my No Smite Garen jungle, it works like a charm.

    • @bevvvy1374
      @bevvvy1374 Před 2 lety

      You say that but at least Garen can be useful in a team fight even when behind while Darius is literally free gold lol

    • @justanothercommenterwithan9089
      @justanothercommenterwithan9089 Před 2 lety

      @@bevvvy1374 this is way too true

  • @Prefix1998
    @Prefix1998 Před 2 lety +2

    Garen is anti mage because he was indoctrinated, though now he is conflicted but he still has to uphold what demacia expects of him whilst darius is determined on strength to assist noxus no matter what people think of him, as of now he has doubts in noxus due to the betrayal and loss of his lover and child because of noxus.
    I like how they both mirror each other and although darius is the only one trying to change noxus (by weeding out corruption) I think garen will also follow suite by trying to change demacia as well.

    • @lorieslori8051
      @lorieslori8051 Před 2 lety +1

      Garen do something heroic other than shielding the corrupt kingdom please

  • @victorlee7561
    @victorlee7561 Před 2 lety +7

    "At least in a one on one, Darius does beat Garen."
    Me who plays Garen mid: I have no such weakness

    • @willzombieking8100
      @willzombieking8100 Před 2 lety +1

      *He's too powerful to be kept alive*

    • @TheReZisTLust
      @TheReZisTLust Před 2 lety +1

      Me who plays ilaoi mid: What about 4 farm per 3 waves?

    • @Ultraking909
      @Ultraking909 Před 2 lety

      Me who plays garen as adc: are you challenging me?

    • @paladinoateista9173
      @paladinoateista9173 Před 2 lety

      @@Ultraking909 Me who plays Garen jungle with predador: So you guys have chosen death

    • @Ultraking909
      @Ultraking909 Před 2 lety

      @@paladinoateista9173 me who plays garen support. . .
      With Lucian adc and both demacia vice: you have no power here

  • @bellrains
    @bellrains Před 2 lety +6

    isnt a finisher an execute and the “execute” vars is talking about called a “True execute”

    • @stormdragon2529
      @stormdragon2529 Před 2 lety +2

      urgot and pyke have the only true executes in the game. the other ults are basically ( if you have lower hp then the ability's dmg, you die and they get an effect)

    • @linkfan2015
      @linkfan2015 Před 2 lety

      @@stormdragon2529 and cho'gath

    • @fanficologist6621
      @fanficologist6621 Před 2 lety

      @@linkfan2015 Chogath R damage can be blocked by shields. It's not a true execute.

    • @stormdragon2529
      @stormdragon2529 Před 2 lety

      @@linkfan2015 chogath ult just deals dmg, and if you die it gives you health, but it dosent execute you

    • @themuffinprincesa21
      @themuffinprincesa21 Před 2 lety

      Finisher is better as a "use after combo for best effectiveness" were as an execute will literally kill anyone if the execute condition is met no matter what else is going on

  • @blobpoop457
    @blobpoop457 Před 2 lety +3

    Playing darius feels like playing an actual heavy juggernaut. You pull the ennemies toward you and slay them with your big axe. Garen is sooo linear; Just running at someone and spining on him. Having literaly no dash or crowd control feels weird.

  • @fukelvin6569
    @fukelvin6569 Před 2 lety

    Champion comparison ideas :))
    syndra vs orianna
    katarina vs leblanc
    irelia vs akali
    lux vs zoe
    yasuo vs yone
    talon vs zed
    leona vs naut
    kennen vs teemo
    quinn vs vayne

  • @braindeadgenius2143
    @braindeadgenius2143 Před 2 lety

    Now we're asking the real questions.

  • @jaelonmckenzie8298
    @jaelonmckenzie8298 Před 2 lety

    Are you going to choose characters for this series because there characters are similar, or there kits are similar? Like would a video be "Nasus vs Renekton" because they're top lane brothers? Or "Nasus vs Kayle" because there top lane scalers?

  • @NebulonRanger
    @NebulonRanger Před 2 lety

    Galeforce is also sneaky good on Garen, especially if you're going attack speed for the bonus E damage after the 6th tick.

  • @dedalkonstruktor3778
    @dedalkonstruktor3778 Před 2 lety +1

    next you can do Miss Fortune vs Gankplank or Twisted fate vs Graves.

  • @revrun9756
    @revrun9756 Před 2 lety

    Here from the subreddit, nice!

  • @ren-ys6ur
    @ren-ys6ur Před 2 lety

    Some ideas for the other eps of this series
    1.Kha Zix vs Rengar
    2.Lux vs Morgana
    3.Naut vs Leo
    4.Kat vs Yi
    5.Irelia vs Akali

  • @hoangnguyen0721
    @hoangnguyen0721 Před 2 lety +2

    Lux vs Morgana,both of them litteraly have the same kit
    A realy long root
    A shield
    A area dmg that hurt alot
    The only diffrent is their ult and way of dmg,lux is bursty and morgana is death by a thousand cut litteraly

  • @danraz9435
    @danraz9435 Před 2 lety

    I'd prefer the point ranking system because I like to look at numbers.

  • @MusicKnowsAll
    @MusicKnowsAll Před 2 lety +1

    Personally I’ve always preferred Garen’s front-loaded burst play style. While it is certainly not as devastating as a max stack Darius, the setup is usually too frustrating for me versus the immediate burst from Garen’s kit. I know I am a noob for having this opinion but it is my own!

  • @rogue1996
    @rogue1996 Před 2 lety

    Hi Vars co you do a Fiora vs Riven comparison because these two champs are lot of times being compared to each other by the community since Fiora's rework in 2015. Thank you!!!

  • @unboostyme
    @unboostyme Před 2 lety +1

    Team synergy: doesnt garen e lower armor for everyone? and the q silence is kinda synergie so carries cant flash or dash blink etc away

    • @Jo-Heike
      @Jo-Heike Před 2 lety

      Darius also has CC, which is what Garen Q is, just Darius' is hard CC, effects multiple targets, and as he pointed out, gathers them for AoE abilties (how, and his E also stops dashes). Garen's E lowers armor, but that is very situational, and most people wil either be dead, or have a lot of armour and not care if Garen gets to spin on them five times (dosen't happen that often in team fights).
      Garen is the jugernaut version of a duelist, he has limited usefulness in team fight which is why he usually takes ignite in top lane. Darius on the other hand takes Ghost, which is great in team fights.

  • @iceman-gt3gv
    @iceman-gt3gv Před 2 lety

    Very interesting. But who is better?

  • @pegasusrichards
    @pegasusrichards Před 2 lety

    the only youtuber to correctly pronounce xin zhao

  • @rsfakqj10rsf-33
    @rsfakqj10rsf-33 Před 2 lety +4

    Another proof that garen and darius is very similar is how two-sided the comment section is

  • @tommytymesaame6624
    @tommytymesaame6624 Před 2 lety +1

    Petracite does not nullify magic it absorbs magic that's why sylas can use the chains he absorbs magic then releases it later and why Galion can move as he is made of petracite he normally can't move unless in the presence of strong magics which he absorbs and uses as a life force of sort

  • @mononm2429
    @mononm2429 Před 2 lety +1

    They are just two rivals for the ending story of the lore, anime protagonists

  • @manolgeorgiev9664
    @manolgeorgiev9664 Před 2 lety +1

    In a different universe these two would be best buddies.

  • @magmaslug9305
    @magmaslug9305 Před 2 lety

    Garen got mobility as a pity price, so idk how accurate calling them equal is, but I appreciate the effort. Also, when it comes to burst, Garen's spin takes a while to complete, during which Darius can probably get 3 stacks of his passive so when they both ult it will be done with max hemorrhage stacks.

  • @machtus
    @machtus Před 2 lety +1

    Personally I think "fun factor" should be at least a bonus category for tie breakers like this situation, as how fun a champion is definitely influences how well designed they are imo, and I don't think its a hot take to say that Darius is more fun than garen

  • @juliocesardas-5558
    @juliocesardas-5558 Před 2 lety

    The Winner and loser scoring is definatly better when putting two champions up against each other

  • @mentolbig1333
    @mentolbig1333 Před 2 lety +1

    As a darius main, I have some points to put out.
    - In the first argument of burst damage, darius still has burst namely from tri force. A tri force W on an adc easily takes off a fourth of their health. That with one auto and a Q puts them in R execute range if you're a bit fed. And for me, I run hail of blades darius which effectively makes me an assassin against the first person I target plus like the quickest possible noxian might (passive) proc.
    Not to mention with noxian might proc, one q and r is all it takes to kill a squishy. Enemy jhin gone in 0.73 seconds.
    -In terms of mobility, garen really wins. Against an enemy team with even a fraction of a brain and crowd control, playing without ghost is often times unplayable. Thats why wind soul is such a massive buff on darius. I usually do not build FoN or dead mans on darius, only in situational games. (usual build path tri force/boots first and second, steraks 3rd, visage 4th, deaths dance 5th, gargoyle 6th, usually take red pot but sometimes iron. Other items are situational).
    I wouldn't objectively say darius is better than garen, but i can confidently say that darius is much more of a 1v9 type champion, and as I mentioned earlier, my build (steraks visage death's dance gargoyle's with like a 1.5k shield or so) doesn't lack durability either. Give mobility, some tenacity from runes and possibly boots, pretty insane durability, noxian might's insane AD bonus, and about 1.3k of ult true damage to EACH enemy champion, I'd say you have a pretty powerful champion with not all too many weaknesses. Of course when ghost is down I may feel about as effective as a hull breaker cannon minion, but that's besides the point.

    • @ironboy3245
      @ironboy3245 Před 2 lety

      Oh, you build gargoyles? Damn I haven't had a chance to build a 6th item the entirety of season 11, the games end too fast

    • @mentolbig1333
      @mentolbig1333 Před 2 lety

      @@ironboy3245 sometimes you can even go gargoyles 3rd or 4th if you really want to and get bursted down too quickly. Not something I really do though.

  • @mr.mystery9338
    @mr.mystery9338 Před 2 lety

    If you want another lore rivalry of sorts do urgot vs camille

  • @LePudding.
    @LePudding. Před 2 lety

    Would you ne interested in doimg a a video on Morgana vs Lux maybe?