'I Personally Watched Justice Victoria Gauri’s Videos And I Was Terribly Shocked': Justice AP Shah
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- 'I Personally Watched Justice Victoria Gauri’s Videos And I Was Terribly Shocked': Justice AP Shah
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He has represented the common people who have none in the top judiciary to protect their interest legally. Thank you Sir
We are all shocked at statements / orders passed by judiciary these days.
they think they are allowed to dictate instead of judge as per law
You mean they are upholding the constitution and protecting it from Dictator Modi?
@@yj9032 I'm sure your papa george soros is holy saint . LOL
He is a good and responsible Judge & great human being.
He is believed to be sincere ( Mother India must be proud to have him )with a person of character.
Transperncy is the main criteria while appointing judges.
The Constitution when originally drafted was befeft of the 'Secular'. The reason for inserting 'Secular' in Constitution was to favour miniorities by appeasing them Why Common Civil Code is still not mandated?
Justice AP Shah spoke very openly without any fear. Great admiration! I hope we have more Judges like him.
Beautifully explained the dangers of excutive appointing the judges , people should be vigilant and not let this happen. Infact judiciary should stike it down if someone tries to tinker with it.
And what about nepotism in judiciary? Why don’t judges are not declaring their wealth and all that? What about unwanted comment they always use do which are not in verdict?
@@hatmc8507 They are learned persons they say what is fact but they are not corrupt or bias because it is the strong pillar of the country.
@@kanishkadas9290 just yesterday CBI caught 1 judge with 2 or 4 carore
@@hatmc8507 where it happened.
@@hatmc8507 what is nepotism? They declared their assets as per procedure.
Wonderful Justice Shah, as always all your points were highly thought out, futuristic and considerate to the marginalised. I would like to get your views on Judges accountability too. Thanks.
It is very strange that while Justice A P Shah addressing and giving his views about judiciary pf Indian supreme court, people in audience busy and playing with their mobiles! Is our educated audience do care and is worth of listening this honourable judge?
Live Law you do a great job of spreading awareness. Keep it up.
Justice A P Shaw was one of the best CJs in Chennai High court. Great judge. Unfortunately he was not appointed to supreme court due to political reasons. Great man with great mind.
And imagine if Government wants to get involved in Appointing procedure.. or have Finla say
Only God knows
He was a good at appeasement
Citizens main desire is that independence of the Judiciary should be maintained.
He talked from his heart and put forth very very valid suggestions to improve the present system of judiciary appointments. Like wise, one more convention can be arranged wherein how to improve the functioning of Govt servants not giving scope for service deficiencies, how a corruption free society to be created can be discussed in it and put forth valid suggestion to Govt to implement it enacting new laws if necessary.
I am with you in your valid request.
Justice A. P. Shah was an exceptional and upright judge as I had observed him in the Bombay High Court. His every word speaks of justice.
Can he speak on the corruption and 2am bail in supreme Court. Bet he will not open his mouth
What a speech! Great Judge. Admire him.
Selfish people under the grab of justice.
But I'm sure the gentlemen wasn't shocked by comments of SC judges in the Nupur Sharma case. The last bastion of left ecosystem is about to be teared down. Enjoy the show.
Yes, left eco system heavily infiltrated judiciary and education....need to break this hold...and Bharath go back to its roots of Dharma.. 🙏
Pranaam bhratashri, you are absolutely correct,
Very interesting and engaging. Thanks to Justice Shah.
Very consoling! The soul of our nation is still alive because of the judges like him and our CJI of the SC.
I am a Christian and I am ashamed of my religion. I hope the courts help me in stopping and reverting the conversions.
The masses enslaved by aggression and deceit will be free.
Father, what was the inquisition.
Was the soul of Jesus alive then.
Or, Papal bull 1492. The soul of the natives of America, Africa, Australia and Asia.
We Christians are, the blind led by the blind into a pit.
Jesus taught hatred against our country or betrayal against our country.
What a shame.
Father, can you please give some advice about SALVATION or about the original sin or about baptism.
We, the christian masses, have been MISLED, brainwashed, converted, controlled, deracinated, indoctrinated and enslaved for world domination.
Pray for wisdom.
How many has the church managed to infiltrate in the judiciary.
@@solelysoul8543 you don't have a name. You want to hide your identity and sit on the throne of judgement. I am not part of your 'we'. You are a RSSBJP IT cell coolie or a bot. Hope and pray you get a better employment.
@titus.sj.pune. Father, Jesus called the learned pharasies as hypocrites.
If Jesus comes again, he will call us hypocrites.
We have a great big wonderful God, is the hymn we would sing.
We have a great, anti bjp , politically inclined priest, we shall sing now.
Pray for yourself and all those who have been hurt and MISLED by the church.
Long ago, I knew a salesian brother Titus. Or was it at St Pius, Goregaon.
Well articulated. Right from 1950s to 1971, then upto 1993 and so on.... he covered the transformation of Executive & Judiciary appointments, with each one's pros & cons. The defects of Colleagium and the need to make it transparent is justified. Jayaho, Justice Shah.
Thanks to IndiraGandhi for having started the domino effect in Judiciary.
Independence of Judiciary does not mean dictatorship of Judiciary.
I think Justice Shah wanted to convey phases in Indian Judiciary:
1947-1970 Independent Judiciary
1971-1981 Committed judiciary with Punitive actions
1982-1992 Executive deciding what judiciary should do (worst phase of Judiciary)
1992-2014 Partially Independent with little give and take with government
2014- PRESENT Ideological Committed Judiciary with Safronization
Is not saffronization better than christianization And Islamization
@@sriranga1000 religion and state should be indipendent. Our religion is the constitution. Problem with hindutva gang is match or adapt the bad practices of muslim countries surrounding india.
@@sriranga1000 Tri color is better than only saffron
@@devdevan9091 Bad muslim practices Need to be identified and then bad hindu practices should be compared.Dont make all religions equal without having knowledge
@@Spoonfeede what I ment was hindutva gang is adopting the bad practices of muslims. Bajrang dal and VHP are organisations that promotes voilance like the jihadi organisations and Rss too.
AP Shah has been accused of favouritism and corruption.
@lansinngkahmei2417 By a former chief justice of the Supreme Court.
Thanks, Justice Shah. It is an insightful discourse.
Retired Judges must not be made arbitrators and head commissions. However they may take up teaching, research and fight for weak citizens.
Now everything has flaw because they dont like certain appointment and he is not getting anything from government. Now suddenly after 12 years of retirement he realized that system has flaw.. fraud..
Independence of ALL THREE pillars is the NEED.
Instead of finding which system is fair for enrollment of judges in court it is important to fix accountability for judicial fraternity both lawyers and judges are law breakers and muscles of conscience ethics rusted. No reform will improve without fixing accountability. Rules the same judgment varies on appreciation of evidence and time lapse prompts to think judges are maha chors of 1st order
We continued the Colonial ( Moslem and later, East India Co. and British Crown) tradition of complete immunity from any sort of public accountability of the bureaucracy, police and Judicial Officials. Since after Mrs I.G's Emergency and starting with the Janta Regime the Civil and Judicial class have, step by step, completed an ironclad shield around themselves, protecting themselves from any consequential srutiny, answerability or Punishment.. The hardware is corrupt. Worse, the software of process procedure and record has been corrupted right up to our minds and our culture. Ramaswami, I couldn't agree with you more.
👍👍👍 100% true
Justice AP Shah speach is too good, his ideas could be implemented
Have a search committee comprising of renowned people who will scrutinise all candidates and then recommend the names to the collegium.
There is already a research team at the supreme court which recommends names to the collegium
@@rajat3180 The search committee should comprise of "renowned people" not people on the payroll of SC. The committee should act independently without any influence from the judiciary, executive or legislature.
@@vs9324 I agree with u. Recent judgement of SC which ordered that minimum one third judges of HC should be from district judiciary, the diversity which SC ensures in terms of diversity in gender, caste, religion, high courts is all set to ensure that nepotism won't prevail in the future judges. So system has already corrected itself and I think even without such an independent committee, SC will be able to attract the best talent which will be free from nepotism
Really live law is going to dominate in the future.
In a democracy everyone must be accountable to the parliament. It is the Parliament alone which is sovereign in democracy. Now the 'collegium' assumes itself to be the sovereign which is ludicrous.
What about the corrupt judges appointed by the Collegium? Does the common man get to know who in the Collegium recommended him? Sir, the Collegium has outlived its utility. Better to discard it and save face. The executive is responsible to the electorate that doesn't spare it.
One thing is clear that Hon'ble Judges tend to favour their relatives in Judiciary.
Why collegium pannel.... not introducing cooling period of 5 yrs for supreme court retired judges for accepting govt nominated position,....
Why not SC put sumo motto case against such appointments.... review & appoint committee.... put the matter under 5 judges committee..??
Why SC is silent??.... why Prashant Bhushan is silent?? Opposition is silent for their own reasons....
Justice AP Shah has unmasked the collegium by explaining its bias in selecting judges .
I Hope High Court collegium ,give importance to sub ordinate Judicial service officers .. for Elevations to HC .. after holding least 10 years of office 🙏...Sir , that would be really Appreciable .. Otherwise most of Good Intellectual Judges retire at District level ..
True. In Karnataka there is strong lingayat lobby.
Agree. But they should go through tests, interviews etc.
@@sushilkumarsaraf4399what are you talking about ?? Do you know how sub ordinate Judiciary Judges are appointed ???.. what test ?..
You people clearly dnt understand the difference between Judicial service and civil services .. dnt you ???😂😂
Higher judiciary is den of nepotism.
I also think atleast 50% Judges should be from Judicial Services. Their experience can be used in HCs, maybe some can even reach SC (if selected at very young age)
First sentence itself is INCÒRRECT. Ambedkar DID NOT say that selection of judges should be with executive or Legislature.
How did His Lordship feel when two SC judges, who virtually torpedoed Ms. Nupur Sharma with harshest words, seeking clubbing of the cases filed against her in various places?
We were shocked by Judges created law to appoint themselves..
❤
the current chief justice is also the son of a chief justice.
Well spoken
One get to baffle at how consultation transform in to consent. The most irrational bias of the Judges in their own favour. Absolutely irrational and therefore arbitrary. Collegial should go.
Great speach. But shocked by distinguished gathering being oblivious to the same and meddling with Mobile
Every Collegium is a mirror of predecessor. Atleast the Executives did change every five year! And it avoids nepotism.
I politely disagree with some point like secularism, poverty favouritism. I think that judge must not have biased approach while giving verdict. It is lawyer's work to favour it's client.
Excellent sir
Justice Shah is one of the best judges India has had, and he's paid a price for his forthrightness and adherence to the truth.
@David Ridgewell Why don't you concentrate on your own shithole where you live. I'm sure it has lots of problems, even though the English rule over you.
@David Ridgewell Partners my ass. You are English vassals. You lost to them. I have Scottish friends who end their conversations with "Death to the English!". No love lost there. You sound like a compromised lass.
@David Ridgewell Well ok, sheep molestor. Baaaaa.
@David Ridgewell Sorry, that sounds stupid. Try harder, you lame sheep fu**er.
Excellent
His narrative is nearer to the facts, yes one of the fine judges who retired without promotion, but his words are worth to be noted 💐👏👌👍
Very truely
These judges not honour public opinian they are above law and behaving like a god. Nupur Sharma thrown
From court but what happened for Pawan Kheda , he was treated like vvip, same day hearing and relaxation , why because he from congress. Is SC Court influenced from congress politics ?
What collegium role in accountability, transparency and responsibility of judges. How corruption. Misconduct, incompetency, delay in disposal of cases, avoiding dynasty, nepotism etc. So many unanswered question.
Next while selection of judges, what is the pre qualification? No exam, interview etc. Only very few have opportunity to get selection as HC and SC judge. Where is right to equal opportunity to other judges, lawyers, advocates. Many thing missing. Status quo maintained.
Please try to address these questions in rhe upcoming session. This is a layman's perspective on judiciary.
Read him at The Hindu. We can judge his article before it🙏🤣🤣
You say layman.. and and you questioned about Accountability ?? Do you know what is accountability of Judiciary ? Your questions is of not layman surely ?? Rather it looks prompted ..!! Leave all this.. you dnt even know What is the status of present collegium ...how it is functioning , Do you think this is civil services like ? That Clearing an exam is sufficient to Become Justices ??? Really man...!! ?
Status quo maintained ??? 😂😂 Man did you copy your comment from Google ??
Of course, he wouldn't have seen any videos of anti-nationals turned politicians turned judges!
Collegium is not the right system to select judges and its functioning over 3 decades has exposed many deficiencies. So scap it. Instead let a set criteria be agreed between the Supreme Court and the Govt . For example eligibility for High court judge position the candidate should be in the age range of 48-55 and should have practiced in various subordinate and the high court for 20-25 years and the candidate should furnish 3 of his best argued cases. Like-wise for the Supreme Court judges criteria be worked out such that a minimum tenure of 5 years is possible if selected. A working paper on this should be widely published and invite comments from the public which should be evaluated by a committee of legal and administrative experience and based on the Committee’s recommendation the Govt and the supreme court 3 senior judges arrive at the most acceptable criteria and select candidates in a transparent manner and record the reasons for selection. and even a waiting list be made to meet to immediate vacancies withi the next 12 months
If the same thing said someone in polished English under the guise of political theory or intersectionality,then that would be very sweet, intellectual and Palatable to Honourable Ex. Justice Mr.Sah. Sorry we need prices procedural transparent appointment system
Excellent. The thought and forthrightness of talk is commendable.
Why does justice AP Shah is not shocked about 10 crore cases pending in all courts of India?
Present day judiciary is an appendage of British Raj. India need not copy a country (Colonial tools to keep a colony under its rule)in judiciary, bureaucracy, educational system since we became a free Democratic Republic. We should follow a modern native practical systems.
Has anyone checked how he favoured a particular builder who also was a close family friend from Mumbai when he was posted in Chennai court in a case that was filed against the builder in Chennai court?
Funny how the judiciary in India thinks they are holier than thou.
Also was he not the same person that Swami took to a village in Tamil Nadu to show him how mullas has taken over an entire village where they told the villagers they could convert and enjoy the benefits from the government or else they won't get any 😂
Not only there should be a minutes of the meeting but also publication of minutes after three years.
Very nice and honest judge
Thank You so much Sir... I feel it is the Biggest failure of Opposition
They did not take back but snatched what was not there earlier
Frank & brilliant presentation & analysis by justice Shah sahb.
Simple solution : Give some right to lawyers also in recommendation.
After final recommendation a candidate/lawyer / cittizen should have also been given the right to challenge on some basis the recommendation before the appointment ;if the reasons/ basis are considered valid by the combination of former judges and lawyers.
But it will be considered impractical/ not considerable.
Jai Lakshmi Narasimha Durga matha if justice are given true verdict to the nation of indian people I am honourably saying indian will respect the nation and government rules if they are true and honest
I, with due honour to honourable justice Shah and all present, would like to refer to ' what kind of ..one one Cristian, one Muslim,one..' If such is the way in India will families to have one boy and one girl, will villages to have one Mandir, One Masjid, One Church, will an organization to have equal Male employees and female employees. What is this happening! Has everything collapsed? Is India under metamorphosed Taliban. Debates and speeches are honest, true to the spirit but question is does India have the true CITIZENS.
Valuable suggestions.
This retired judge earns lakhs by various means including being part of Arbitrations etc. Now lecturing others about ethics to others. Laughable!
Justice Shaw is such a good judge. We want more like him. Like Krishna Iyer. Today's judges are either threatened or given incentives
Carrot and stick policy.
Wonderful speech
'Favor'-ism and 'Favorite'-ism must totally be out 'off' judiciary. Under these catagory the person (judge) may not possess the calibre to judge the wrong/crime and can influence a wrong judgement. Judiciary must be Independent.
It only proves that no body is above corruption moral financial or otherwise.
Judicialdignity..prevailed.by.eminent.judges.like.justice.A.B.Shawwe.respect.him
Are there no exams and scrutiny of merit at every stage of a judge's elevation? If the collegium is transparent and subject to checks and balances, only then India can hope for quality in judgements. Otherwise it has outlived its utility.
Any connection with judges get appointed as a judge👏👏👏👏
A P Shah is perennially carping ( siyaaaapa mode )
Abhishek Manu Singhvi mms video proved how the judges were appointed in the Congress regime.....
Indian should take initiative to restore the integrity of judiciary
He is not shocked by Pardiwala statement etc... Mr Shah reputation is less said the better...he is part of Breaking India Forces..
Bro what about victoria gauri's comments. Collegium system is not perfect but still better than the system of executive being a part of appointment of judges.
Indira period was also a dark period with Sanjay calling the shots.
All said nd done the collegium system needs to b abolished nd this work of appointing judges by judges does’t seem to be fair enough nd is vulnerable to a great rift among the Executive nd Judiciary which has already happened nd the after effects r being felt till today. It would b possible only if both Executive nd judiciary have to shed their egos nd sit down together to sort this out. Either this job is to b assigned to a commission comprising the eminent retired judges having unblemished track record nd one each representative from the judiciary nd Executive or why not to have a qualifying exam for judges to b conducted by UPSC? And if something is not done in this regard it would b dangerous for the democracy nd this rift between the Executive nd Judiciary shall go on increasing to the detriment of system of our country.
Collegium system though many years facing crisis and adjustment with executive resulted in appointment of incapacity judges which lowering the institutions, now redefined it
The judiciary considering constitutional issues are bring largely considered.
The lay public are concerned with criminal and civil court procedures
Facism creeping in slowly & surely in judiciary.😮
What happens when the Constitution itself is dictated and criticised none other than Dr. Ambedhkar.? Later what happens when Constitution is itself Amended several times to support ideology and The erstwhile Congress Communist govts ?
Peaceful community stays blessed
We were also terribly shocked to hear that a justice of the high court was found with cash disproportionate to his salary??? How do you guys manage it 🤔🤔
The Chief Justice of India should handle the Executive?
Nonsense
Judges of the top court only can restrain the executive interference in the appointment of judges
Western ethical constructs are irrelevant to most Indians....Sudhir Kakar. That is the irony in the largest constitutional democracy in a nation where democratic values have not taken roots, despite 75 years of self government. The baggage of our cultural and religious beliefs comes in the way of implementing our constitutional values and objectives.
Accusations against Vice President & Law Minister are atrocious
We should be concerned about truth and falsehoods. If something is true okay fine. It is false then condemn it .
Former Vice President Hamid Ansari and some of the former Law Ministers are epitome of virtues than the present Vice President and Law Minister.
80%of the population has never been represented in the Supreme Court even after 75 years caste like jats yadavs kurmis etc have never been considered for such appointments. How come???
He should name the people he had indicated as being favoured or not worth for consideration
Isn't Justice Shah being unfairly and openly critical, almost seeking to provoke selectively, the current dispensation, the current government. Things, the workings, in the judiciary were far more compromised, much worse in the earlier dispensation but that important aspect is given just passing references. Merely to 'appear' balanced in narrative. Absolutely no reference is made by him comparing the process of judges selection, appointments and such judicial systems prevailing in advanced countries and their democracies. What i understand is that in the USA , for instance, the executive, the government of the day, has a big say in this appointment, selection of judges. But this significant point is just not touched upon even by Justice Shah. Why ??
pure hypothetical
Judge of the Aam Aadmi
Why is so hesitant while speaking eventhough he reading out whatever is written?
The problem is discussed oneside. there is no system absolutely perfect. Judiciary should also be watched and checked when ever it is necesssary as Judges are also Humanbeings, the constitution has provided the system for that. Check the system of appointments of Judges in collegium system. do u feel everything is perfect?