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"If you tell Jordan to cook food, he turns into Gordan Ramsey" - probably some Jordan fan
Because of his will and determination.
@@zombie92110Jordan is trash, go cry about it 😂
@@zombie92110😂😂😂😂😂😂
@zombie92110 MMMMMMMMMM that killer mentally MMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
It’s crazy to me that folks will be ready to fight if we say someone like PRIME Giannis would get 35 in 1980 cause it’s “disrespectful” but MJ can just come as a rookie and get 35 no questions 🤨 this shit is ridiculous. We can’t say anything negative pre-2010 but they can just demean, disrespect, and discredit basketball today for no reason. We can have three hour convos/pods on PRIME Bron’s weaknesses and his inabilities but can’t even admit Jordan had ANY weaknesses AS A ROOKIE 🤦🏽♂️ he gets to be a super nigga from the jump but somebody like PRIME Bron and Giannis have to get realistic expectations?? This isn’t even glazing now. This is tasting the mf rainbow
Yea they just act like this era is high school level basketball lol. Everyone just soft and cant play
Because old heads cant move on from the past. They cant accept that players today are better than players before.
Super nigga? Lmao! Bruh you hit it on the head. I seen the short a few days ago when they said MJ would lead the league of in scoring when MJ was not a good 3-point shooter compared to the average at that time. This disrespect gotta stop
Funny how yall both act like the victim but y’all both disrespect the past and present eras constantly.
@@reimeralgabre2986can u prove that?
This man ticket is obsessed. They asked him about his favorite Kobe Bryant moment and he brings up LeBron. This man is who he hates he is a LeBron fan.
And I love how he mentioned 08-10 Kobe was waiting. like lebron wasn’t waitin 07,11,12,13 the years Kobe was still great
Think about it bro you don’t see Kobe nor Jordan on his page his two favorite players right but you scan through his channel all you see is bron he has a unhealthy Eminem Stan obsession with bron his channel ain’t crap without bron
@@Zay0321yeah 11 and 13 he's waiting for an injured player well done
@@user-gc2ln8fy1f looked fine when he dropped almost 40 in game 1 of Dallas series. I’ll give you 13 but that team wasn’t going to make it regardless cause they weren’t playing lgood
@@Zay0321 he was getting his knee drained before games in 2011. Just because LeBron plays worse with less severe injuries doesn't mean Kobe wasn't injured
“Lebron has the most obnoxious fanbase”
Meanwhile Jordan fans: 1:51:30
I really can't stand his fans. They treat him like he's their father, I'm honestly disgusted hearing them speak. I've lost at least 700 million brain cells reading their comments
this nigga ticket said rookie Jordan would lead the league in scoring off will & mamba mentality 🤣🤣🤣🤣 this episode was elite glazing
MJ is basically the greatest shonens MC ever, he can transcend eras and accomplish anything possible. Even The lowest version of himself (Just put some xtra💫 Will & determination) is capable of anything 🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️🙇♂️
he's super nigga
😂😂😂😂😂imma jump out of a plane all I need is will and determination to see if I can land without dying
today i realised Jordan glazers are just as bad as bron and kobe glazers
💯
Ur just now realizing this?
@@SeeingShadows we very rarely have topics where the glaze comes out like it did today
Lmao
Mane u can ask them can Jordan lead the pistons to the championship they will say yes I’m telling ya it’s bad
Saying mj would lead the league in scoring in todays game cause of his will and determination is one of the dumbest shit I’ve ever heard 😂🤦🏾
It’s something u don’t have which is why it’s an asinine concept to you trust 🤝🏾
@babauzuafa5332 yeah no "will and determination" doesn't mean you'll lead the league in scoring but you can believe in your delusion🤡🫵😭
It’s sport and competition. That will always give you an edge over this who don’t care as much. Especially when you already have the skill
@@qupope6955 bro I dare you to work out one day and before your body gives out tell yourself you can keep going watch what happens. Not a lot of people can do this. They just do their little sets and call it a day
@@babauzuafa5332 Gianni’s luka Steph do that rookie mjs heart isn’t beating their ability
Shaq was triggered when deadbeat came up because he knows damn well playing ball overseas and sending checks doesn’t make you an active father. The standards for “Fatherhood” are low. I know someone that played overseas and relocated his whole family to remain in their life. Children aren’t accessories.
That’s if the wife is okay with it, just like they said in the video, if she’s not down to move overseas then there’s nothing he can really do. The best thing he can do is send checks so both of them are okay. To me that’s an active father, he’s still trying to make sure they have a better life. Not all father’s have it easy but they do the best they can in the situation they’re in.
@@yourenotthatguy1728trust me its crazy and if he worked a regular job the chick wouldn't even be around
Domo Had Enough ‼️💀
2:39:00
W Camera Stand
Best Domo Moment on PC so far 😂
@@a.sturdy5940best moment in PC history
@@a.sturdy5940 Low DON’T know what he’s talking about smh 🤦♂️
This is why in all reality shows like this with young kids that value stats/analytics over everything else just suck, and why Ticket etc are definitely needed on these shows to educate.
Rookie MJ was playing vs clogged lanes, true Bigs that camp in the paint, horrible spacing, physical defense, hand checking, high Bball IQ teams & players, and vs the greatest shot blocking Era of all time etc etc AND rookie MJ STILL averaged 28ppg on 51.5%FG!
Rookie MJ would definitely average 30+ppg on 50+%FG in today’s game since today’s game lacks everything that I just mentioned above 👆 smh
This isn’t rocket science kids smh. Today’s game is literally geared towards benefiting the perimeter player and today’s game is literally structured to make the game easier in every facet of the game but especially easier in regards to scoring smh! Rookie MJ would FEAST!!
Domo was the star of the show today. Bruh had me in tears with the Way he was snapping
MJ in 85' took almost 20 shots a game. He shot 51.5% from the field that season. If he's shooting 65%+ at the rim he'd have to shoot about 38% from mid-range for that to equal out to 51.5%. The problem is that 65% is probably 0-3 feet, so you'd have to find his paint percentages (non-restricted area) and mid-range percentages to split that 38%. Regardless, Ticket tryna compare year 1 MJ to prime Giannis is disgusting. 85' MJ is not leading the league in scoring, hes not averaging 30. The disrespect of the modern era is filthy. This episode was a bunch of MJ jockstrap sniffing. "HE'S FREAKING MICHAEL JORDAN" said it all
You sound like a mathelete😂
I think mj would put up 23 or so. The only rookies I can remember recently putting up 20+ first year are d mitch, I think dbook, I think luka and embiid. So 23 is still incredible. But a guard who did not take 3s at volume his rookie year is not scoring 30 in this league.
I don’t think d book started his rookie year
Thank you for actually understanding math and logic
@@andregardiner3071 the problem with his logic is that it’s unconfirmed. Mid range shooting percentages weren’t tracked until the late 90s so he has no way of confirming his stance unless he goes back and watches every single game MJ played in 84-85
The disrespect the older generation has for the newer generation of the NBA is crazy. People will say Steph wouldn’t be a star in the 80’s, Giannis wouldn’t be dominant, etc., but they’ll say with a straight face that rookie Jordan is coming in the league today and averaging more than everyone.
Vice versa majority of the new generation be making fun of them niggas that played in the 60/70s
@@acdagawd361160s yes 70s no
@@acdagawd3611 Yes, there’s bad conversions on both sides. My issue is that basketball is the only sport where saying that newer players might be better than older players is complete blasphemy. Old heads will say that “x player couldn’t have played back then” and it will just be regarded as true.
What LeBron is doing right now to this generation proves it he has no skills can't shoot no go to moves and he averaged 30 so can you imagine MJ that has no weaknesses on offense can shoot and has plenty of go to moves what he'd average today
@@mr.perfect1749 literally proving his point
Bro. Today was PEAK domo. That Jordan rant was FLAWLESS. well done 😂😂😂
Meltdown. Was hard to watch
@@jhragins96I personally loved it, most people can't stress that enough 😂
Domo: IM ON YOUR SIDE!!!!, IM ON YOUR SIDE!!!!!
Ticket: you on my side? You on my side?? …… Ight go ahead 🤣🤣🤣🤣
One of the Greatest exchange in The Panel history
Lmao, even with the hour of gossip talk and hour of MJ Glazing this was a good episode.
If they was glazing for lebron you would have loved it I'm sure
@@lucianodadon7822no man should be glazing another man period … no matter who it is
@@WatchMyCZcams everyone be glazing for they favorite players you niggas included cut the cap n gown
@@lucianodadon7822but y’all wouldn’t so keep the same energy
@@dantewilliams7458I hate all the glaze I ain’t gone lie
People don’t understand Jordan is a Mount Olympus athlete that transcended his sport? To the likes of Muhammad Ali, Babe Ruth, Jackie Robinson etc… He was like a ‘god’ to people. He made the NBA international and what it is so he will have the most ‘glazers’😂
Yeah after Scotty came and saved his career and legacy y’all always hold that against Russell who’s got 11 rings because he played against lesser competition so did Jordan he played against plumbers janitors and expansion teams and old washed players and Jordan didn’t even play against a real good finals team Scotty saved him
Scottie helped he did not save Michael jordan can we stop with this nonsense Scottie didn’t win shit without MJ either they both needed each other just like every other superstar
@@BarryGraham-nq8rh and by the way jordan played way better competition than Russell you sound like a casual just like everybody else you don’t know basketball stop talking
@@LAking-hg5ycy’all can’t take it when somebody not a Jordan nut sucker but y’all and these CZcams hating chanells bitc.. and cry and hate own goat James all day everyday y’all hate and talk about him more than his family and fans do all day everyday king goat James
@LAking-hg5yc you can say he played better competition than Bill era but to think that MJ can come in and dominate, day one in today's game. If people can't admit that the greats of today can dominate in yesta-years game, then they need to just stop trying to about it
Ticket all shyt MJ is the best finisher in NBA history. SMFH
I love Jordan. He’s the best to ever play the game. But to believe that a young 21 year old MJ would be have the ability to adjust midseason is asinine. It’s an unrealistic expectation
He would have a hard time adjusting to a zo e defense being that he never seen it b4 or even defensively he'll have to adjust to a guy like Bron or Gianiss who are the size of PF running point or even steph where he'll have to adjust to steph shooting from mid court. The Jordan glazers are worse than any glazing of any other player
@@qualinteranzy7948meanwhile Bron getting washed by all these small players on the Mavs. The only thing he could do well is put a full on speed and go to the rim. Giannis is lucky they do not call for him elbowing and traveling... Th3e is a reason he struggles against the heat. Those two aren't set up to dominate in the past. Especially with Bron not having a post game.
@garygnu8775 lebron won a scoring title in kobes Era bro 😂wtf are you talking about
I swear to god if Shai can average 31 today than so can Jordan. Shai only took 167 threes and shot 56% in the restricted area/paint and led the league in drives. Jordan as a rookie was more athletic and shoots comparable from the free throw line. You don’t need to be a good shooter in this league and Shai showed you that. (Shai only shot 42% from mid)
Shai ain't a rookie
@@sportstalkonly1442 what does that have to with anything? The comparison was on their game, not their status or age
@@bryoncarter2204 I just said it. Shai ain't a rookie. Jordan would be coming in as a rookie.
Shai is shooting 90% from the Line mj can’t do that
Bernard King played almost 30 games less than MJ so that ppg is misleading, Jordan scored 500+ more pts than him. Also the Bulls were at the bottom end of the league in pace, using league average pace is again misleading. This seems like a disingenuous conversation against MJ.
Jordan not averaging 35 in a league that’s seen Jordan types athletic wise as a rookie who in high 20’s from mid range and 17% from 3
@@Aubknowball17 irrelevant to my point about the lies of omission about Jordan's scoring that year and his team's pace. Ofc Jordan not scoring 35 his first year though I have no doubt he could at some point. "Jordan types atheltic wise" lol Jordan still has the fastest first step in NBA hsitory.
What about larry bird?
as a bron fan i can’t lie we are probably the most annoying fan base but jordan fans are right there with us😂😂
They the worst we can talking bron with out mentioning mj they can’t do the same
MJ fans aren't more annoying because they are older and don't go on social media nearly as much while almost ever Lebron fan has twitter fingers
No way Jordan fans are near us, the are waaaaaay more delusional
@@BEDCORN but when they do get on social media they say shit like this and talk about bro like he’s God
That’s not true if you don’t kiss Jordan ass you basically don’t know basketball
SGA averages 30 without a respectable jumper, this era soft and Jordan would manipulate the refs like Harden and Young.
Correct. SGA, and even Zion do very well w/o a solid jumper, plus the league is soft today
you dont even watch SGA. SGA midrange game is absolutely deadly and has a respectable 3pt shot. yall niggas following this channel just don't even know what yall saying.
You are acting like Rookie MJ is more skilled than SGA now. Lmao.
Nigga SGA is money from mid range. Watch basketball
@reimeralgabre2986 Rookie MJ isn't , buy neither is Zion. Their sheer athleticism made scoring easy. Zion's size and strength is a walk in the park to basket, doesn't have to use a lot skills, moves, dribbling.
Jordan quickness, first-step and gigantic hands made it easy as a 21 yr old Rookie..😆 heck my 22 yr college graduate son (6'6") has better footwork, ballhandling and shooting than Jordan had as a rookie. But he doesn't have the athleticism, hands, mindset Jordan had. Jordan fundamentals edges today's players skills
If rookie Mike averages 35 does peak mike average 45?
They don’t think things through
Peak Mike puts up 50 like Wilt in this weak, soft, vlogger era.
42
Yep
This didn’t age well 🤣🤣 Wenby as a rookie didn’t play that many minutes
There's a few factors that need to be considered for this one. Such as what team is he playing for, how many minutes is he playing and how teams gameplan for him on a night to night basis. I think he could lead the league in scoring on a mediocre team and the coach gave him the absolute green light to shoot whenever he wanted.
The problem with this hypothetical argument is that these dudes want to dissect MJ's game in a vacuum and exclude all other external variables that play a significant role. Sure if you just air-drop Jordan from 1984 in today's NBA without an adjustment period he might struggle initially. But it's very disingenuous to not think if Jordan came up in today's league he would not be a better all-around shooter from the sheer fact it's more required now than it was then. Didn't LeBron come into the league as a bad shooter? To think he played in an era where defensive bigs could camp in the lane because there was no defensive 3-second rule, defenders could get away with a lot more in terms of physicality and there weren't as many shooters to space the floor... MJ still averaged 28 ppg on 50% from the field as a "bad shooter"... Why shouldn't we believe he would dominate today
You can’t do that with sports hypotheticals across eras because then there’s certainly zero fact to any of it when hypotheticals are already opinion-based to begin with.
Because I can say the EXACT opposite that what if Jordan NEVER developed into a better all-around shooter?
Because the main reason he became such an elite midrange is one of the reasons he wasn’t that good a 3pt shooter, that huge hitch he had in his shot…which let him hang in the air longer than dudes in the midrange but that limits your range and effectiveness from 3.
@@kendrickjenkins96 I do agree sport hypotheticals are opinion based and nothing is factual because they're impossible to prove. But for the sake of argument I will combat the notion that Michael Jordan would be incapable of dominating in today's game, regardless of the flaws he had coming into the league. I'm projecting based on the improvement I not only saw in Jordan's shooting as his career progressed but also the players in today's game who improved their 3-point shot since they entered the NBA. LeBron James entered the league as a poor outside shooter and now he's attempting almost 10 a game. He's not very efficient but has still managed to remain effective as a scorer and there has been improvement in his jumpshot since his rookie season. The narrative that Jordan was a horrible 3-point shooter is slightly skewed. It wasn't that he was incapable of shooting them rather than he didn't shoot them enough. The seasons where he shot them at a higher clip you see a drastic improvement in his 3-point percentage
@@upgradeyourmindset3265 I think everyone on the panel would actually agree with a lot, if not all of what you said. It’s just not what they’re arguing, like you said we’re just taking rookie mike in a vacuum and putting him in the game. Its not crazy to say that Mike just simply isn’t leading the league in scoring there’s just not enough offensive versatility in his game that early in his career. Michael Jordan was definitely one of a kind talent and that’s what made him so special, but regardless there are skills even HE needed to develop to become a better player.
This was a good episode
Great start to the episode
Man I’m just waiting on a network to drop a 10 figure bag on PLAYER’S CHOICE. These guys deserve it!
Factory
They definitely deserve it but being independent is what keeps the content true to itself imo, no big wigs telling them what to speak about and all the bs that comes with the money 🤷♂️
@@aherbo18facts don’t sell your soul.
Agreed
I love seeing Shaq on the panel 🐐
Great show fellas
Just subscribed love watching you bros debate sports who needs ESPN...keep up the gd work
Legend of lying back at it about Giannis minutes, he acts like he watches every game and he clearly don't. It's 2 reasons why Giannis doesn't play a lot. One that he acknowledged was Bud resting him. But it's equally true that Giannis barely plays in 4th quarters because the Bucks are usually ahead. Giannis runs up a huge lead and gets taken out. The reason why it doesn't always end as a blowout is because we are giving THANASIS ANTETOKOUNMPO MINUTES ALL THE TIME in garbage time, and unlike LOL's goat, Giannis doesn't stat pad.
LOW has MJ as the goat I hope you know….
Not this year. He averaged almost 9 minutes a game in the 4th quarter. He plays most of his minutes in the second half. It’s just how the rotation works
@@catrelljones831 should be all 12 if he only plays on avg 23 minutes in the first 3 qs. Unless they don't need him all the time. Which they don't. So yeah in games he's needed he plays 11-12 in the 4th, but when they are ahead the average gets dragged down, and you're right, in the past it's been even lower. Obviously the Bucks don't blow out teams every game, but if it were necessary he'd play 2 more mpg in the 4th alone. That would bring him significantly closer to other stars.
@@asteiner274 Even in close games Giannis usually sits at the start of the 4th. I agree when we are trailing his numbers will go up. In general tho he plays majority of the 4th.
This is crazy…… it’s not 98 Jordan it’s not 94 Jordan it’s rookie Jordan
Yet it seem as tho they are using MJs peak to debate and the topic is rookie MJ leading the league in scoring…… he would not have a 30 ppg average smh. That’s not a knock on Mike lmao like what are we doing man
Oh no it would be 40
Jordan was in the convo for best player in the league as a rookie. During that time he was people just like to rewrite history and say otherwise, but there was some chatter. His game was refined even then, and he had already humiliated the best stars of the league the summer before with the usa games. He has a career average of 30, and even averaged 30 or close too in some of the slowest paced seasons in the late 90s. When he dropped 63 in the playoffs (which is still a record) that was his second season which he basically missed most of because of a broken leg. It is not unrealistic because that is who jordan is. 6'6 and has like the 7th or 8th largest hands in ALL of nba history with a 40 plus inch vert and almost 7 foot wingspan. That is why guys with his archtype (demar derozan) arent quite like him. Footwork, can post, finish both hands and over or under you. Midrange is money this is all rookie mj. Why are we pretending like he couldn't i just saw bradley beal and Isaiah thomas average 30 in this league, are we serious?
IT avg 28 7 years ago a diff game
Jordan should not have a case for being the best player in the league in 85 literally peak bird 😂 I didn’t know Jordan fans was this bad
Jordan post game and mid range game as a rookie 😂 wtf
Bird called Jordan Jesus disguised as a basketball player in the early 80's.@@howitzdone8992
Jesus christ the 3 musketeers was peak chatting on this episode 😭 Ticket kept repeating that weak ass argument
Top Left and Low in the same episode is crazy
I hate it whenever old heads teleports past players into today's NBA and grant them all of the benefit of the doubt by giving them the ability to shoot better from three because
1. They never do it when teleporting today's players back then. Ask them about curry or kyrie.
2. They act like because threes are a bigger focus in today's nba, that it will mean that the player they're teleporing will be able to shoot threes as well, ignoring the cases of someone like demar, Ben Simmons, and Westbrook, people who never improved their 3 point shot to where they're respectable from out there.
3. Pirate is right about us not knowing 100% what jordan will do it today's nba as a rookie.
Michael Jordan averaged 29.3 points, 8.5 assists, and 5.8 rebounds in 4 games against the Bucks in his rookie season in the 1985 Eastern Conference First Round. ..Not sure why LOW believes under this Era lax defense that Mike could not reach 34-35 a pints a game as a rookie.
Defense is harder today then the 80s
Mutumbo. Jordan dunked on him. Who tf is a McGee to a Mutumbo.
These young folks should do more history work. So the conversations can go to higher heights.
Kobe Dunked on Dwight. There's no center in the league today as good as Dwight defensively
Kobe isn't more athletic than Jordan.
What kinda argument is this?
Ticket and Ime have to be related or something 😂 you could never catch me saying sun so silly for another working man not flesh & blood. Talking about “Nia wanted to go along for the big ride” what are we really doing here
facts that shit was weak ash
He's the only one that understood Bob was simping
LOW said Pop wouldn't let a rookie 40 minutes.. but Duncan played 39 minutes his rookie season
Still now 40...
That was before Pop started load managing his stars. A Spurs player hasn't played 35 minutes or more since Duncan did in the 03-04 season. So nearly 20 years ago. Every Spurs player now flirts just below 35 minutes a game
Bruh the whole purpose was putting MJ in the league TODAY🤦 he's right MJ under Greg TODAY wouldn't be playing 40 minutes a game TODAY🤦
@@qupope6955 epcially as a rookie
So tim duncan was drafted in today’s league like how did u completely miss the point that were talking about putting jordan in today’s league heck in today’s league no superstar is even averaging 40 mins so u know damn well they ain’t letting a rookie play that amount of time
Fam this is sickening ... you guys have ZERO clue about 84 Jordan. ZERO CLUE!!!!! You forget how he never lost in international play and SMOKED the pros on the reg.
Saying Jordan had "no left hand" is laughable. Possibly the most fundamentally sound players in the history of the game.
3 years of college he was NBA ready, you guys are looney tunes not thinking Jordan wouldn't average 30+ ppg. smh
Saying Kyrie is the best tough shot maker in history is insane. How quickly they forget MJ and Kobe
Lol ticket a misogynist....who knew 😂😂
Most older black guy are it’s reality
@@mihawklifer7620 wow. it isn't just black men
I like how pirate is jus driving while they screaming in his ear lol
Thumbnails have been 🔥 lately.
Speaking on the MJ topic, i think some people forget that Zion came in and averaged 22… now call me crazy, i think MJ is averaging more than Zion, rookie season vs rookie season. If you wanna argue spacing, he’d have a harder time but with a bit faster of a pace today, i think MJ coud hit 28.
Zion only played 20 games that’s why no one talks about it
Zion still unstoppable without a jumper too.
I think mj could definitely average 22-25 as a rookie which is still nothing to disregard
My nigga Zion played 20 games wtf u talking about...
@@buchulesobayeni6445 so cause he got injured it just didn’t count, word. It’s still an example of how easy it is to score in the nba today, especially for someone who idk, is top 2 all time?
Ticket “standing up” for another grown dead beat cheater is mad wild too. So passionately and pretty often too it’s odd.
The amount of slobbering that these older cats was doing for Jordan 😅😂😂 sad
Bro taking a player from the 80’s and forcing his play style to be the same against people from 2023 is stupid …. If mj grew up in this era he would play like people from this era with the athleticism he has …. Mj would lead the league in scoring every year …. Y’all just can’t grasp how to compare eras clearly
“What Is The Difference Between Giannis Game Now And Jordan Game Back Then”
One Is 7 Feet Tall And Weighs 50 More Lbs ……. That’s It ? 😂😂😂🤣🤣
For the title. The answer is no. Because the talent level and athleticism of jordan wouldnt be so outrageous. The players today are much better. Would he average 30? He might. But he wouldnt be the leading scorer
The players today aren't as athletic, outside of Aaron Gordon you can't even hold a decent slam Dunk contest, the Olympic team can't even beat forgien countries. 30 years ago we sweep Fiba with a Gold medal with our second squad Dream teamers. The kids can't even play 82 games or back to backs.
@@1D4ever you're trolling. Good job
I gotta say. I loved what I saw from Ron this episode because we rarely see it. Standing up to that disrespectful assed, double headed dragon called low and Marz. Love it.
im disrespectful? i guess
@@MarzTalksSportswhen you said they would guard MJ like Russ was crazy bro lol that was a lil disrespectful.
@@yourenotthatguy1728thats how they would guard him so i guess call the defenders disrespectful
Jordan averaged 29 points and 8.5 assists against Milwaukee as a rookie against the reigning DPOY and Low say Milwaukee stopped him. Wow!!
Keep cooking low Chill 💪🏾
“They’ll guard him like Russ”
Russ been doing a lot of scoring In this era. Led the league In scoring twice If I’m not mistaken 🤷🏽♂️
Prime Russ >Rookie Jordan. Obviously
@@kingad8869ehh as a scorer ? Idk
@Heemkeem_9 When Russ had a middy, absolutely. Plus, he could hit an occasional 3.
@@kingad8869 mj was taller just as athletic and was more fundamentally sound . Let’s say Russ was a TAD better at shooting lol Thts not moving me tht Russ was the better scorer . It’s a Toss up but either way russ even now if he got the shot opportunity he’s averaging 20-22 ppg lol as a guy whose 6’3 in his mid 30s whose jumper is below average on a regular day … on a hot day it’s kinda good and a bad day he’s hitting the side of the back board . I wish ticket , Ron and chill brought up ja morant more because Thts the perfect comparison
@@Heemkeem_9 Not a TAD better, Russ was money from midrange consistently in his prime. Specifically from 2014-2017.
Tickets view on women is nasty ngl
Yea Ong he be Tweakin sometimes 😂
@@Xploding566 they be with being led by dominant men. Feminism destroys the black family.
Benard King got hurt and missed like 15 20 games that 84-85 season, i believe
I think pirate should appear on a show where he can talk a lil more 😂
@retrey63
Hey, thanks for the kind sentiment bro. I prefer to let people finish their thoughts and not cut people off, can get squeezed out sometimes. All good. Take it easy.
Low has NO clue ... I have got to get on this panel
How you gonna base Mike’s midrange shooting off of the numbers for him at the rim that you don’t have?
He used his FG% then made a guess as to what he’s shooting from mid. So basically we all can agree jordan was elite at the rim so if he finished his FG% for his rookie year at around 50% that would mean he was missing alot of jumpers.
@@aaby3964 no, because you’d have to know what he was finishing at around the rim. You can’t use a guesstimate for one stat as the barometer for another stat. Ultimately they’re both guesses, so that logic ain’t valid.
He’d have a very similar resume as he did in 85. Except he’d DEFINITELY make all NBA First. I wouldn’t put it past him winning scoring champ his rookie year.
All nba first ? Over Luka or Steph ? Idkkkkkkkkkk
W Domo man 😂 “Take it light” this was another great ep. PC is really the best sports podcast out here
Low face looked dumb as hell after Ron played MJ rookie game commentary tho
You can not be in the house and be a deadbeat that’s stupid almost made me upset before I remembered it was the internet.
A dead beat. Zero no zero is going you a roof over your head or checks in the mail. There’s nothing …
Not a good husband/boyfriend doesn't mean you are not a good father. Stop confusing the two
Domo rolling up a blunt😂
Thank you Ron Ticket and chill for cooking them niggas y’all Mfs don’t watch basketball Frfr !
Im 1000000% certain ive watched more rookie MJ than 95% of people especially recently
@@MarzTalksSports not me but you was more understanding wit what you was sayin it was really low and domo who was nasty ! You was just tied in with them cause you was disagreeing
@@aquartermilWhich is whats annoying im being grouped in with people i aint arguing with when i aint even say nun except ask ab bernard king the whole time
@@MarzTalksSports yea that was kinda nasty 😂😂I think Bernard would be a top scorer Too in todays game
It’s always good to remind everyone that the Jordan glazing is as bad as any other fan base
first of all the term "dead beat" means you leave your household...your children and abandon them and don't do anything for them thats a dead beat dad...being in the house and not doing for a child is not being a dead beat...it's being "irresponsible "...but your not a dead beat....because your presence is still there.....there's a big difference....
I hate generational great players in another era topics. I think prime Giannis would be great in most eras, the only era I think he would have some issues in would be the 1994 to 2004 NBA slow half court era because there was no spacing at that time and both the PF and C could stay in the paint all night since there was no 3 secs rule. Giannis' passing would not be very good in that era because there wasn't total team defensive collapses on one attacker like there has been since the 2010s. In that 1994-2004 era, most defenders stayed at bay with their assignments. Giannis' couldn't get to the rim in 1997 as easily as he has since 2017. Too much size and congestion in the paint back then, dudes were much bigger and weighed more than Giannis then. Like I could not see Giannis fare well against the 94' Knicks with Ewing and Oak in the paint, Giannis would need to get by his defender who can hand check him, then he would hit a wall. Giannis would need a more consistent jump shot and thicker skin in that era of dead ball.
Domo should stay on keep it buck ....his bball takes are garbage
These dudes think MJ is flawless man. As a rookie he's supposedly gonna outscore Luka, Giannis, Embiid, Steph, etc. These guys are in their prime and are gonna be getting outscored by year 1 1985 MJ? Man cut it out.
Have you went back and watched rookie mj ??
@@aquartermil all the time. Have you?
@@jeremiahsmith7706 you clearly wasn’t watching cause to compare mj to those guys when 1/4 of those guys didn’t come in dominate like how rookie Mj did is insane asf ! Why y’all keeping thinking mj was just a random player !? It’s a reason Mfs was calling him the goat b4 he even won a ring Bru🤦🏾♂️rookie mj avg 28…HE ALREADY OUTSCORING MORE THAN HALF DA DAMN LEAGUE !! How would bro decrease from that production ? It’s no logical reason at all especially when todays game it’s about easy to score as it was back then or even more easier. We got 38 year old Lebron 🤦🏾♂️for crying out loud he’s avg 30 !!! Wtf you think athletic mj would be doing !?
@@aquartermil he decreases in points because modern day basketball has already seen super athletic players that attack the rim and can't shoot. They're gonna play zone, pack the paint, and force MJ to take jumpers. They did it to young LEBRON! Lol. The pace is slower today so that means less possessions as well. MJ wasn't the goat in year 1 nigga quit calling him that. Nigga 38 year old bron is better than that MJ lmao
@@aquartermilsounds like alot of gawking from your comment
give me actual logic and facts
When ticket brought up how king shot more shots and how it’s more impressive for Jordan to score that much on the efficiency, doesn’t that go against most of his points when the rest of the panel brings up efficiency?
Low look like the guy from Sponge Bob 😂
Still No Pickles 😂😂😂
@@Sbcmlg28247 THATS THE GUY 😂😂😂
@@reyrodriguez2178 Bubble Bass😭😭😭
So yall just forget that benard only played 55 games and rookie jordan played 82 lmao we know games played affects scoring averages 🤣🤣🤣
And also this fact iss even more stamped correct because when ever he played more than 60 games he averaged significantly less so that was nasty marz 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 ann low 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@ChozenNegus777he won the scoring title so everything u just said isnt relevant
I already said that lil dude just wanted to win the argument so he doesn’t care
@@MarzTalksSportsJordan led in total points though out of everyone that year. If you’ve graduated high school we know how averages work.
@@tayluc777 FAXXXX
Domo is tripping... Jordan had a left hand better than left handers ... Domo clearly didn't watch Jordan
Dommo knows donuts more than basketball 😂
Nun of em know basketball mj not Havin a left is so overstated yes his left wasn’t great but it wasn’t bad ! That’s how they sayin it was
@aquartermil smart man you are
His rookie year it wasn’t a strong left hand at all
@Aubknowball17 stronger than brons
My Favorite Kobe Moment Was The
Amnesty Game Vs The Dallas Mavs 🔥💪🏾
Michael jordan got fouled that wasnt even called back then so imagine now.... jordan would eat at the line
Marz and Low just nasty this episode
How were they nasty so ur telling me a rookie jordan will come into today’s league and average 35
@@unlimitedz2.014 they were being nasty 😂 and no I don’t think he would average 35 as a rookie, maybe 30 but we’ll never know
all i did was ask about bernard king why am i being grouped with low? please tell me how i was being nasty when i asked one question the whole time
@@MarzTalksSports I mean the way yall get the point across sometimes is funny, I agree Jordan wouldn’t average 35 today as a rookie
@@joey_cash i just wanna know how i was nasty for asking what bernard king would average
As far that the Ime and Nia thing she didn't say he was always a dead beat she said since their break up he hasn't been in his son's life. And if that's true he has been a dead beat. But did say she does want him to have visitation. She's not trying to completely keep him from his child. Ticket putting his own feelings on Ime and Nia. She never said he was a deadbeat all these years
Not shocking. Ticket speaks on these situations like he is personally involved and don’t be knowing Jack shhhhh.
Ticket speaks as if he know the situation personally, like he be on the room. Ticket is tabloids of sports
This is about her hurt ego and she just using the kid as a wea pon
He said why would she say it now after all these years
@@Geezyreacts maybe because he wasn't a deadbeat then and he is now? The hell
Stand on yo shxt shaq!! Don’t let them pplz disrespect you, networks don’t know the value of real independence and connection. Y’all got something that is genuine and expanding!
Can’t forget the almighty chilltown “he will adjust midseason seeing this type of defense every night” even tho Michael Jordan didn’t make that adjustment in 1987 when teams covered him more heavily an he shot worse on jump shots because it’s impossible to adjust to being a better shooter midseason
All respect to MJ but these Jordan glazers are painful to watch. It seems like as soon as Mike is mentioned, the logical part of their brain stops working and they start kneeling. Bron, Kobe and Steph stans are bad but Jordan stans might be the worst.
Nothing worst than Lebron fans fr let’s be honest
MJ glazers are the reason why young fans don't like MJ. MJ glazers acting has if he is perfect.
@@mitchsn7706I never heard a Bron or Steph stan argue "Will and determination" or "aura"
@@mitchsn7706 lol. Most of the Jordan fans I know are like rabid dogs. And when you asked them they cant even give valid points besides 6-0 lmao.
@@SportsOnTheSide1an Jordan won more than them both so what
Low is becoming most hated on this show and I see why …. Dude thinks he knows basketball because he looks at stats all day
ticket literally do the same thing at least low as something to back up what he’s saying
@@AVG123cTicket actually played basketball LOW acts like he knows basketball to collect a paycheck there’s a difference
Bro I’ve been thinking the exact same thing dude literally sits on basketball reference while debating shit is unfair and the condescending tone he has is annoying af
@@adrijiyuda playing basketball don’t mean shit😂 ticket act like he know everyone and everything he say is law.
@@adrijiyuda when you’re debating someone you have to back it with facts not just personal info
Much respect to ox on that open moment. I was in that same exert position five years ago bro and it takes a lot of work to get out of that place. Respect to you for doing the work king
Appreciate that bro. I’m just happy to be here 💪🏿💪🏿💪🏿
Love when Ron get involved W host😂😂
It’s funny how none of y’all mention how LOW literally debates with a computer looking at basketball reference while debating!! It’s not fair and he’s a fraud. Turn the computer off and let’s see what you really know. The condescending know it all attitude doesn’t help either
we all need our computer on to be on the show. its an internet show
@@MarzTalksSports you can play dumb all you want too but you know what I want mean lmao
Ok so MARZ and LOW here how the numbers could work for Jordan if he shot 48% on 2s:
At the Rim: 65.0% (518 makes on 797 attempts)
At 3-10 feet: 50.0% (179 makes on 357 attempts)
At 10-16 feet: 44.0% (207 makes on 471 attempts)
At 16-23 feet: 29.7% (194 makes on 654 attempts)
Stop lying and oversimplifying it and saying he’d be below avg as a shooter if he finished well at the rim.
Thank you for this sir I seen you in the chat 🫡
@@tayluc777 Appreciate that bro! 🫡
Facts I wish other people would realize that Low and Marz aren’t as smart as they portray themselves. You have to really listen to what they say and there’s a ton of logical fallacies
@@adrijiyuda A ton, but their supporters treat their words as law.
Key word "could". To be fair, if the numbers arent available, its completely possible for him to be a bad shooter (as a rookie, feels like someone has to remind you guys of that every 5 minutes). He is all time at the rim, and most likely always near 70%
Need a chilltown midrange counter 😂
25:57 Now we talking facts 🥊🔥 let’s hold everyones motives accountable who choose to participate in the lavish celebrity lifestyle
The fact that Domo and OX think they’re more entertaining or funny than either Cam or Mase says everything I need to know as to why Domo’s logic irks me to the core (baseless) and ox well ima leave ox alone but he be capping too and you can tell Boffum have a anti ticket no matter what he saying I can’t loose to him vibe lol
Yeah they not funnier 😂😂😂
I gotta be funnier than Mase, not Killa. Mase being funny is only a byproduct of Cam being hilarious. Mase is getting carried big time. Me and Cam would be non stop entertainment.
"Magnificent 9 " 🙏🏽💪🏾 Great episode
Time stamps would be great
i mean usually it takes a fews days before that happens
Doin trix on it 😂
Shaq back was a treat
These MJ glazers and MJ fans are delusional!
2:40:50 Domo’s son looking at his pops in disbelief 😭😭😭😭💀😭😭😭😭😭😭💀💀💀💀💀💀💀