Dear Toxic NY Giants Fans: Why Are You Rooting Against Daniel Jones?
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- In this episode, Bob Papa and Carl Banks discuss a recent tweet from Bob that wasn't related to Daniel Jones and sparked backlash from Giants fans. They talk about why it's counterproductive for fans to root against Jones. They explore Daniel Jones's challenges over the years, highlighting the lack of stability from coaching and inadequate support on the field. By comparing the Giants' situation to other franchises, they shed light on why fans need to appreciate what this storied franchise has accomplished. Lastly, they touch on Hard Knocks' during this 100th season and how fans will see behind-the-scenes access during the off-season. #tellafriendtotellafriend
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Banks said, “it seems like we’re in goofy land right now”. No doubt, Carl, the whole country has gone goofy.
I've been a Giants fan since Y. A. Tittle was our guy. I NEVER hope for any Giants player to fail because I bleed blue and always will. To wish for failure would be the same as wishing someone in my family fails. I've seen it all through the years. Fans are fickle, particularly when they become frustrated. And sometimes owners are influenced by the fans when they shouldn't be. It's a good thing Phil Simms was not drafted in this era. In the case of Daniel Jones I believe it is a number of factors, most of which were not his doing. The question now is how to put him back together.
Daniel Jones was panned for being drafted too high. Right from the start fans were told he would be a bust by every pundit out there. They wanted Haskins instead. But after the 2019 season hopes were high. People now forget that he performed near the top of his rookie class.
So what happened? He was faced with a change (the enemy of all young QBs) in coaching, a new system and lack of a WR1. A line that could not protect him. He went from a QB friendly system to one that was stale by today's NFL standards. In 2022 he was rescued by a new coach that was experienced in developing QBs. He was rejuvenated, but the roster still was a work in progress that the new GM, with limited salary cap space, could not fix overnight. Last year, the roof caved in from game 1. The opening game was a textbook example of Murphy's Law, and it didn't get better due to an early schedule from hell. Throw in the cumulative effect of key injuries on the O-line, which lacked adequate depth and it was almost an act of mercy that the ACL injury stopped the beatings.
This year is the pivotal one for Daniel Jones. I, for one, will root for him to prove all the doubters wrong. And, after all, isn't that the best outcome for our beloved Giants? Isn't that what every fan should want? Not needing to be searching for the next QB, but to continue to fill this roster with talent at all the other positions? Not setting us back, but moving forward? If you want anything different then you should root for another team.
Perfectly said. Thank you for being a rational fan and basing your opinions on reality.
Last year was the pivotal one for him. This year is just a countdown until his tenure in NY ends. He’s a dead man walking atp. Once the man got paid the excuses went out the window. The personal attacks on the guy are horrid and uncalled for he’s always done his best but he’s just not good enough to be the leader of the giants and never really was. The fans that hate him don’t truly hate him, they just see him as the face of everything wrong with the team who’s been the laughingstock of the league since Eli retired. And that makes them bitter. And as the qb he’s the biggest target for all that bitterness. A lot of it is warranted his play has been far from good. Much of it is unfair. Regardless, being the qb of an nfl team this comes with the territory. So I’m not gonna feel bad for a guy who strong armed a franchise into giving him $100+ million. He refused to take a cheaper deal and right now his contract is the cause of about half the roster deficiencies
The DJ hate has gotten completely ridiculous and toxic from the fans and media this off-season.
It’s absolutely disgusting…it turns me off so much. I am a Giants fan and I root for my team. All these DJ haters need to STFU or find another team to watch.
@@johngreen2510 seriously 31 other teams you could go through for and yet they out here slandering the name of the quarterback that played for their team they want him to be so bad but don't realize that if he is bad that means we don't win
Everybody forgets what he did the 22-23 year. Dj was light out and broke some many records with his legs and arm. I'm hoping we see that Dj this year! Anyway it plays out. It's always, #NYG4LIFE!
Indeed. The "goofy" irrational fans were bad even during the Eli era but the Jones hate has reached an entirely new more ridiculous level.
and for no good reason! A lot of ignorance from those who know nothing about coaching or playing a sport! They parrot what they hear others say. Dimes, I'm proud of you and thank you for all your efforts.
Bob & Carl - thank you so much for this.
Keep it up gentlemen!! Much respect met Carl 2 years ago at a signing at a local bar nice guy, looking forward to the season 100 years of giants football let's get it big blue
Same people hated on Eli non stop and he got us two rings!? Tells you all you need to know about these “fans”
Same with Sims.
He’s not Eli Simms Hostetler or even Collins
@@MikeJones-zd6xi And your point is?
The one thing all the QBs you mention and Jones have in common is they were/are Giants QBs with varying skills and degrees of success with the Giants, yet were all recipients of similar amounts of vitriolic spewing nonsense from a select group of so called NY Giants fans.
@@brucemckenzie7927 it’s means he doesn’t get the same grace as others lol I’m a GIANTS FAN NOT A DANIEL JONES FAN so if I feel he’s not the guy for the giants n he’s holding the franchise back then get him tf outta there. U can root for him until the end of time that’s ur choice. I know what I’ve seen n he’s average at best. Giants fans deserve better
@@MikeJones-zd6xi Hell no. Eli didn't get no grace from these fans. A loud and very stupid portion of Giants fans were on him his whole career about one thing or another. Hell, they tried to run him out of town the year he won the first Superbowl with the same reasoning you just used. "Average QB, holding us back, we deserve better!" All that BS. Then he won a Superbowl and everybody shut up for an off season so they could go to the parade as if they weren't just calling for his head a few weeks beforehand.
I don't ride for Jones the way I did/do for Eli but it is the same old dance from seemingly the same old fans... or the next generation of them I guess, and it's the reason a lot of other Giants fans roll their eyes whenever the QB is being crucified without addressing how bad the team played.
The thing I hate the most is people over look the amazing plays DJ has made. He has had some legitimately good games. He doesn’t have the fantasy stats but if you actually watch the games, he makes big plays with his feet. He keeps drives alive and doesn’t lose you games by having three or four turnovers like we see another QBs, like Trevor, Lawrence, etc. I have seen a lot of people bring up 300 yards passing games, as if that is somehow a barometer for winning. I just remember him taking the Giants 94 yards against the Packers, but Saquon injured on the sideline. I remember him making a clutch throw in the back of the end zone to tie the game against the Vikings in the regular season, remember him making clutch plays to close out the Titans game. I understand not liking him and wanting to move on but the amount of hate is just unreal.
He’s thrown some darts that I still have to look at again, ppl forget so quick and just follow the herd
Really?? I've seen more F#CKING AWFUL plays from Danny Dimeless especially in the Red Zone than those "amazing " plays you've seen btw which AMAZING plays are you referring to because NONE come to mind
@@josephrios3481I remember the 7 darts he threw to our TE Engram who was less than 10 yds away and he's throwing 90mph fastballs and those ended up going through his hands for INTs
@@Hazeleyedbri sounds like a catching problem, ur in the damn NFL and they practice every damn day maybe he shouldve practiced catching Daniel’s hardest passes ….. don’t u think ???
@@josephrios3481 really Einstein so you think anyone can catch a 90 mph football at 10 yds range? you really are a special kinda stupid. Let me guess NEVER played any sports but is a keyboard warrior
Haven't Giants fans have enough of Daniel Jones failures? Is that wrong to be angry at year after year losing. ?
If the Giants have another losing season, fans will have had enough. The Giants were one of the first teams in the NFL. They've always had a proud tradition of winning. Seems they have forgotten how to win.
One caveat about DJ: unless the O-line finally blocks for him, we may not be in for a very encouraging year from him. He cannot continue to run for his life behind a line that can't block and have us expect him to produce. The DJ haters will do this but we need to be smarter and fairer than them.
Djs poor play creats sacks also
@@markmatulic9905 Agreed, but the hard thing to determine is how much of it is him and how much is because he's a bit shell shocked. Before he went down with his injuries, the word on him last season was hit him early, hit him hard and hit him often, and he'll be done the rest of the game. So on plays when the O-line held up, he was behaving as if it didn't. This is why I'll be ready to move on from him if he doesn't shake the jitters in the pocket this coming season. If the O-line does a better job, we should see him return to his 2022 form, hopefully better. If not, then I'll be looking for the Giants to replace him with their first pick next April.
@@BowlerJ1 it's not hard. He's one read and doesn't throw to wide open receivers. He's garbage. Every other team can see that.
@@markmatulic9905 You may be right and, if the O-line plays better this season, his play will determine his future, one way or the other.
@BowlerJ1 we have had enough of a sample size the best he can do is be below average.
Legitimately too..
The giants offensive line play in 2022 was better.
That’s a wild thought isn’t it…
It's the truth tho. Then the next year they put young bad lineman in front of him and expect him to do anything
@@shaheeddavis2800Jones has played behind a horseshit offensive line practically every year he 's played. One reason he gets hurt all the time. We'll see what happens this year, maybe Schoen will finally get it right. Law of averages, you know.
@@johnkomarinetz1101 it went under the radar but the Giants actually signed some vets for the oline and they got Bobby Johnson tf outta there so hopefully we should see improvement
@@shaheeddavis2800 I'm expecting the o line to improve
@@markmatulic9905 Hope you're right. They can't play much worse.
The Giants are one of only two NFC teams that have won multiple super bowls in the 21st century. And one of them was the most iconic upset in history. Could be a heck of a lot worse
The Giants have had two winning seasons in 10 years. That's a decade of your life. How much worse do you think it can get?
So what?
And besides, Giants barely won those championships ... on missed field goals, right?
@@francismoran1230what game where you watching he said 21st century not 20th and we beat the best team in the nfl twice
DJ is going to have a great year if healthy....Go Big Blue!!
I don't do If 😆
“If healthy” AND “If the OLine can block & protect”
Just like last year, right?
I hope Daniel Jones has a great career. The great Phil Simms went through some difficult seasons and had a terrific career.
Simms showed signs of improvement. Jones has NOT..
It’s smart to love the team and not any one player, especially when you feel the player holding the team back.
I don't get the hate either. 2 years ago Daboll started to get the best out of him. He wasn't slinging TDs ala Mahomes but he managed the offense with the little talent we had and got us a playoff win.
Last season he got killed behind that o line . People forget the man took a insane beating Week 1. 49ers had free pass rushes all game . The injuries were 100% on the oline . The man was seeing ghost at one point . Could never settle in the pocket for any consistent time. It was sad to watch . Hopefully we get this oline back to 2022 level so we can run some kind of offense again.
I'm a fan of the Giants, not of their fan base. So much toxicity.
I'm not a Jones hater. But I'll admit to being a little worried about his injury history. I don't want him to follow Andrew Luck's path of neck injuries and forced retirement.
Don't worry that will be the only thing him and Andrew Luck (a good QB) have in common.
Im 35. Born in 88. I got to actually see 07 and 11. I dont remember this divide in the fanbase. My dad started taking me to giants games when i was 9 or 10. I get to take him now but we live up near the finger lakes/ southern tier. Thats a 4+ hr drive both ways. My point is idk how you can be a fan and root against youre qb.. make it make sense. HES GOING TO BE THE QB NEXT YEAR. GET SOME NAPKINS FOR NEXT YEAR IF THAT UPSETS YOU BUT ITS JUST A FACT
Thank you Carl Banks & Bob Papa for posting this video. I was one of the Giants fans who was ready to give up on Daniel Jones after the horrific 2023 season. After seeing the way in which DJ has recovered from the ACL injury he suffered last season is amazing. That type of injury has ended many other QB's careers in the past, but Jones had the diligence and determination to fight his way back to nearly being ready to return to the field during training camp. I admire his determination, and he's held his head high with class through all of the media questions about last season.
I'm really glad that Joe Schoen and Brandon Brown acquired some quality OL veterans to aid that invisible OL from last season. With the money they gained from the unfortunate retirement of Darren Waller I hope they'll seek some more additions for the depth of the OL.
I want DJ to have a great year, because if he has a great year, that means Big Blue has a great year. That's what it's all about anyway. GO BIG BLUE!
I root for this team so whoever we have I’m going to root for them!
Bob Papa - you are the best! I’ve loved your work and your passion since day one. Thanks to both of you for representing my team.
Settling for less than mediocre play from a critical position? From a player that was paid as much as Jones was, with his injury track record, one playoff win over multiple seasons, and overall poor play.
No, Banks and Papa. We shouldn’t settle as fans for this. The standards and the bar should be a hell of a lot higher. Hes had enough excuses. Enough do-overs. Enough second chances.
Either prove it or get shipped off this year. Period. Taylor and DeVito, a journeyman and a non-factor, played better under center when given the opportunity. This was with the offensive line struggling and the same weapons on the field.
The Giants invested a ton in free agency to bring in more talent along the line. They drafted the best wideout we’ve had since OBJ. Jones has ZERO, and I mean ZERO, excuses.
Will I root for him to succeed? Sure. But I’m not holding my breath that he’s all of a sudden going to have things click. His best season in 2022 was still pedestrian compared to the upper echelons of quarterbacks in the league.
Yeah they don't want to hear the reality, they just wanna feel important by lauding garbage play en masse.
DJ finally has a #1WR. I'm excited to see what he can do this upcoming season.
Be prepared to be disappointed. A good QB can make a bad WR good. But a good WR cant make bad QB good .. DJ Stinks!
@@dannyduds1058the same way bad qb Daniel jones gave hodgins and Richie James career seasons?
@@BigJonesEnergysave yourself the headache on a response to a duche like that
@@BigJonesEnergyKenny Golladay, Paris Campbell, Darren Waller.
"Career seasons" lmao Richie James had like 500 yards and Hodgins had like 300 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 nobody is impressed
@@alwaysright123you're gonna be back here making the same old excuses next year. That's just a fact.
Not liking the facts don't change them.
This fan base will hate who ever plays QUARTERBACK for the Giants they hated on Eli , as a New Yorker the fans swear they know how to run the team , New York is a joke , not a fan of DJ , but I hope he proves people wrong
They've had 1 winning season in 8 years. I think you can understand that fans are reasonably impatient.
I know these guys have to protect the team and players etc, but this is not rocket science. You dont have to have played in the NFL to see DJ is a bad QB. Even the team knows, they just tried to trade up for a QB (We all know this). What I dont like is that certain Giants fans and commenators do is try to explain the badness. Well he was horrible bc of this and this and this, he has to be held accountable for his own play at home point. I know he is our starter this year and I want the Giants to win but if the offense looks like a hot mess again and we start out 1-7, I need Daboll to rip the Jersey off him in game. Not his fault he got draft @ 6 but we need real QB production from him.
Are you asking Daniel to not be terrible?
Come now, keep it civil.
Daniel Jones is goofy in the pocket. I watched a highlight last night, where he fell down after dropping back to pass, when no one touched him at all, he just fell to the ground. Smh
Those Are Fake NYG Fans' Vultures Click Bait! They Do The Same With The Knicks' Let's Go DJ!!!! F*#^k The Haters!! NYG4Life #BigBlueWreckingCrew! #NYK #NYY #NYR
I am pulling for Daniel Jones. Fan of Giants since 1983.
DJ finally has a WR1 and I believe that he will repeat 2022 but better in 2024.
And people keep saying he had a weak on arm 😭 for throwing Malik like bruh 😭
I don't understand this comment. No one really says DJ has a weak arm tho if that's what you're saying.@@michaeljohnson-ug4gr
@@ayyubjackson the non-giants fan keep about the quarterback for saying who’s gonna throw ? Or whatever the hell they says they slander Daniel Jones because they don’t trust him because he got hurt that’s why.
@@ayyubjacksonA lot of ignorant Giants fans say he has a week arm, which is ridiculous.
@@thomascolbert2687even since we draft giants fans was lost it at DJ
I re-listened to you Bob, and like you, when I was born Y.A. Tittle was QB. I grew up hearing my grandfather, Dad, and Uncle cheer and yell at the TV. I was in college when the Giants won the '86 Superbowl. Through all the years I have enjoyed the good and the bad, but I have never experienced pure Humiliation until the games that Daniel Jones played in the 2023 season. After he went down the ship began to wright, and the season wasn't over until the Giants lost to the Saints, because 83.333% of the Giants success came on the shoulder of the back-ups. You can NOT convince me that if Parcells were here that Jones wouldn't have been riding the bench long before he was injured (not a knock on Dabol). I fact, let me clarify that Schone and Dabol need to stay put and finish building the team. ........IF you put Daniel Jones on the field, then defenses will continue where they left off and bull rush him and keep coming until he cracks (which shouldn't take long If fans get humiliated again (not to mention the whole injury clause thing), then you WILL see fans go "GOOFY" to the power of ten! Daniel Jones is not an asset he IS a liability. The reality is we have 3 back-up QBs and no legitimate #1 QB. I'm good with that for now, as long as the Giants organization owns reality. Do the best with what you have, but NEVER humiliate me and the team again. Pretty please.
OMG!! I am sooooooo fed up with fans, bloggers, & press beating up on Daniel Jones. It's TOTAL bullshit. He's played behind dreadful O-lines, with mediocre receivers & shitless Offensive co-ordinators, except for 2022. If DJ was on the 49s he'd be all-pro & that's a fact. SO SHOVE IT ALL YOU DOUBTERS!
I. With ya BRO 💯 %
The o line the receivers and jones were all bad
me too...with Nabers watch them eat their words
Care to make a friendly wager?
You're an Oline/WR hater and thus not a real fan. Those guys leave it all out there every sunday....
See how this charade collapses on itself like wet cardboard? You're in a cult.
Unfortunately Carl we live in the social media era where almost everything is made to look way better or way worse then it actually is and clicks/views drive people. The giants are a well established organization so it’s easy for people to push narratives to our “fans” and those same fans feed into anything negative because social media has skewed the reality of everything and if we aren’t a highlight reel of a team or have the perfect QB who puts up the most stats every year, they become outraged and angered, ignoring the reality of the teams situation and the outliers of said team
Idk about everyone else, but I’m more worried about DJ’s injury history more than anything. I do believe he can improve his play compared to his previous years, but he needs to be on the field consistently just like he needs a consistent coaching philosophy in order to make that happen.
I’m reluctantly believing, but I am worried that injuries will derail his career
It’s a big assumption saying the OL will be good.
Fans are gonna root when the Giants when they take the field regardless..but once the game is over,people have the right to react to what we seen. And we all been watching for 5 years.. Nobody else on the team is allotted this kind of grace. People want Evan Neal gone,they calling kayvon a bust..it's never "hate" when other players get trashed though
Real quiet under this comment... hmmm....
I like Christmas, but I have really good reason not to lay in bed on Christmas Eve, waiting for a sign that Santa Claus was on my roof. I won't ruin it for Papa & Banks though.
No what's goofy is how you can defend a QB that isn't a franchise QB and can't read a defense I bet of you ask Daboll true option he would say he read a damn defense and process information fast enough unless he a premier running back to command most of the attention of the opposition defense smh
If either one of you think that Daniel Jones is the future QB, then both of you need to take two weeks off and then quit
We need more of Carl Banks personality in the front office.
Carl and Bob, I truly respect your opinions and takes on the Giants. Besides the erratic play we’ve seen from DJ, what concerns me most is his propensity for injuries.
With his contract, I’d be willing to stick with DJ if he’d take a significant pay cut to allow Schoen to improve the roster.
What worries me is if he gets injured again he’ll be on the books for 2025 and we’ll be back at square one with him again, which is why I didn’t fault Schoen for reportedly making a strong push to trade up for Drake Maye during the draft.
Of course my comment is 3 wks later. But, oh well...I think the 2-3 factors are, we live in a "do it now culture." I think social media is a huge factor, but we have this do it now instead of wait later mentality. The second reason is fantasy football. Fantasy football fans don't realize it takes a team effort in order for superstars to generate those fantasy points. Third reason, we come from Ny. Ny is a win-now culture.
Those are my thoughts.
I love listening to these guys B. Papa, C. Banks, P. Sims, K. Warner, etc. They cut through the nonsense that's dumped on fans who don't know what they're looking at.
Jones has just been ineffective and injured, it’s not toxic to want more from your QB in year 6….
That's a fair statement, however the DJ haters me sick!
I hope you guys host the Giants fans at a local pub in Munich like you did in London at the Horse and Guardsman! I had a ball that week! My flight is already booked. Go Big Blue!!
Danny Dime gonna shine this season BET.
The biggest thing with DJ has always been his health and he has to stay healthy, but people forget that plenty of starting QBs are injury prone like Burrow, Lamar, Watson, Murray, and Tua. Burrow even went to the Super Bowl the year after tearing his ACL.
There’s more to the story . He’s not that good period
@@AndrejLittleBirrow looked trash before he got WR's
Thank you Bob and Carl!
I’m looking forward to the 2024 season and I’m pulling for my boys in blue.let all these so called experts make there predictions we all know there never ever right..go out there giants and let’s show everyone where on our way back.and fans let’s get behind our team
I think many people don't believe in Daniel Jones rather than rooting against him, and they have the right to until he proves himself. No one should root against the starting QB, whomever it is, but I am not paid to be Jones' cheerleader either.
Interesting observation ... however, at this point, after a six-year NFL “scholarship,” it’s time to perform.
yeah there's definite extra leeway given to a guy who simply hasn't reliably produced.
People forget the year he had more time, he was top 3 in the league throwing the deep ball.
We’ve rooted for him n outside of one winning season he’s not been good. It’s not just the losing it’s how we lose he plays like a 🐱 and won’t take any chances throwing the ball, we get it he can run n check it down but even that is meh. On top of him constantly being injured. So instead of rooting for him to play just well enough to keep his job I’ll root for him to play how he always does n pray he doesn’t get hurt. If he plays like he usually does with this schedule he’ll lead us to a top 10 pick for sure
Thank you for saying everything I have been feeling about this team and Daniel Jones . I’ve been a die hard fan since I’m 12 and I’m 52 now . I have had the privilege of watching this team win 4 Super Bowls. I am a huge DJ supporter . It will absolutely depend on this O line . If we block we will win and DJ is our guy for a long time . I predict he will win us a Super Bowl in the near future . Let’s Go!!!
In 2018 Eli Manning had 21 passing tds and 4.3k yards passing on a horrible team that had a worse ol than Jones has had a dummy as hc in shurmer and a malcontent/quiter in obj causing problems so a QB can actually shine even though the team itself is horrible Jones gets free passes every year without production
U can’t compare Danny to a HOF came qb, he’s from Duke and has some natural talent and brought down his sack and pick numbers
It’s been 6 yrs and jones is a bottom tier qb that’s made his o line look worse than they really are and they are bad
It's not Jones ability most knowledgeable football people lost faith in, it's his availability. You can't build your entire team around a quarterback who is one more neck injury away from early retirement.
"My respect for Carl, as a man.. just fckin plummeted"
Papa Shill never had any respect to begin with.
I'm not one of them. We saw him look solid in 2022. Let's wait and see this season.
We dont have dave canales...you guys are wrong
Well said I agree!!!!
Steve palazzolo has been shitting on the giants for years. Can’t believe people are just noticing it
I don’t think most fans are rooting against him, I think he took a contract that put a loaded gun to his head to perform last year and he didn’t. With the injury clause that could profoundly hamstring our cap space in 25, and Jones propensity to get injured, we are focused on the long term. If not for that clause, Jones would have a lot more fan support.
Seen 5 years of this guy. If the fans don’t like him that’s how they feel, don’t see anything wrong with it. Running out of excuses for this guy. Put up or shut up this season.
Dear toxic Giants employees: Why are you lecturing fans when this franchise has had 1 winning season in 8 years?
After a good nights sleep, I have this to add: I wish people like Carl Banks and Tiki Barber were both NYG coaches. If they had an actual voice, then the Giants would actually be hitting people in pre-season (You know...real conditioning). They both played with Heart, and that more than anything wins games. Barber effected his teammates (including Toomer) with something as simple as "keep your legs pumping"...YAK. In short, the Giants were not prepared to play in 2023.
I saw the same thing that's why they lost early on(,Hard first 6 games didnt help either)they were in bubble wrap in camp and preseason and dallas knew the importance of game 1 and came to play add some injuries and it snowballed. the good news is Dabol stopped the bleeding and if the win the jet bills and ram games they are in the playoffs through it all. They have learned from their mistakes that this aint the 2000 KC ram- bills. they need to be tougher and drafted and in freeagency went for that.Now they better do some hitting camp.
Tiki hell no 😆
I've been a Giants fan sense 1972, the Giants were really horrible stunk, Daniel Jones never got a 💯 structure around him, I like Jones he can throw a football down field quickly, You guys are rite about Goofy fans and players who get on stage and support horrible goof balls , L.T. really Mr Banks you want Goofy Taylor and Anderson speaking at a trump rally in jersey that is goofy look at it we still laughing at the Goofy xplayers to..goofy
I was looking at that real goofy to see , can't stop laughing at them ,trashed L.T. jersey don't have no problem with him he a registered sex offender..
@@nanonano.3619 rite .
thats because people love to connect to anything even if its negative
humans like to belong and love cliques
its a human condition
go big blue
While I’m hot and cold on DJ I know all the blame is not on him. You can’t change HC’s every year change OV’s every year and not give him the tools like a No.1 receiver and a decent o line group and ask him to achieve success. I really hope that he can put it all together this year bc I wanna see him do well and if he can’t well may the chips fall where they may
Ny Giants propaganda team trying to sell Eskimos ice, twice,at a high price.
Thank you for this. I'm tired of it.
It just seems to me that these two esteemed experts would want a fair competition at QB. At one time the retired player was allowed to compete for the job and won it but now he doesn't want Lock to compete. Click bait pros.
Im hoping for the best, prepared for the worst. Best case scenario the OLine does it's job and the offense isn't embarrassed every week. Worst case is another top 10 draft pick. 2025 season is looking good rn 👌
I will explain it in the simplest terms possible.
In the NFL, you cannot win if you do not have a Top Ten QB.
Jones is not a Top Ten QB.
We need a Franchise QB.
Fans want the Band Aid ripped off.
Which top ten qb doesn’t have a wr1? Daniel sure didn’t
@@Revengeiswicked
The GIANTS have not helped him. I get that. Not in any way. Bad OLine, So-So to bad weapons. Revolving door of coaches and coordinators. I understand all of that.
I am rooting for Jones. He is my QB.
He isn’t the guy though. If he was the guy, he would be the guy by now.
We need to find the guy.
If Jones proves me wrong and takes multiple steps forward and becomes a Franchise QB I will be happy.
He’s a great guy, he’s just not a top 10 QB.
Build the team, get depth on the roster, then find the QB.
The team is better in several areas in 2024 then they were in 2023.
Probably not winning with the worst O-line either. Reality check.
@@garycunningham9216
So your contention is that he is a top QB if he has a good O-Line?
It’s your contention that his middling performance has nothing to do with his abilities or lack thereof?
Is that your contention?
They just sick of his poor play and constant excuses. Once he got paid to be an elite quarterback there are no excuses he better produce and he didn’t. Idc how bad the blocking was. Idc who’s catching passes. Idc that you’re hurt. If you’re getting paid that much you better produce and he instead had the worst stretch of play in his career. He’s not as bad as people are making him out to be he’s gonna be in the league a long time barring injury, but most fans knew he wasn’t worth a big contract and didn’t deserve it. They’re sick of watching him play sub par almost every week. No teams respect his passing ability. Not a single one. He doesn’t deserve the hate but it’s New York when you’re good you’re great when you’re bad you’re awful and he’s certainly been the latter. I understand being angry having to see your favorite team trot out a guy who clearly should’ve been off the team two years ago and feeling hopeless. The giants were the third worst team in the league last year according to almost every metric and they were at their worst with Daniel under center. Happy he got his money good for him I hope he goes on to have a great career and life, however he absolutely cannot be the quarterback of the New York giants after this year
Great take. DJ is the man. The people wanting him to fail have wanted him to fail since draft night. They need to be right along with the media. Think for yourselves. He's the toughest son of a bitch in the league and now he's pissed. Dog in a corner. Go ahead and grab a hold of him...
You have to understand football to know why teams succeed or fail. Its one Giants channel which got so annoying because DJ is the worst no matter if they win, its because someone else, if they lose DJ is not good enough
I believe in Daniel Jones💯
I hope Daniel Jones throws for 5,000 yards, 1,200 rushing yards and 40 TDs. That's what I'm rooting for. It just wont happen.... but Im rooting.
Perfect word for them type fans, goofy
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A few less polite adjectives would fit as well
Listen I understand football is a grown man game..and his job is to go out and play get better...and help the team.. so why not support that..I've never had a whole fan base for me or against me but imagine if #8 had almost all of the fans support..what that could mean for his confidence..and team success..I think it would change everything because I know he sees it he's human with a family..try sending some positive energy..new year try something different..#GOBLUE 🗽🏈🔒👑💯
Big Blue Wrecking Crew 💪🏽❤️🔥
But Arizona how about Daniel Jones screwed a lot of coaches out of their job like Shurmur
Again since Tarkenton the vitriol has always been at the QB.And context means a lot.To me Jones did more with less than any QB I've seen in 55 years of watching football.The worst 1&2 in nfl history in Sills and Johnson who got the most snaps the first half.A washed Golladay ,Toney who couldn't get the playbook right even when he did play,two street free agents in James and Hodgins who he turned into two viable receivers and Slayton who the coach didn't start until game 5.All that and he led the league in pct adjusted for drops at 81 pct and was second in the red zone with THIS receiver group.Why did he only have 15 tds? It wasn't like he was blowing opportunities HE WASN'T GETTING THEM.Watch him this year with the best WR group by far he's ever had.Hopefully a defense that is much better than it was last year.And a solid line.
Because he is not a first line QB and we are being fed the manure that he ism worth the money being paid.
So I guess dj has no excuses this year same system for 3 yrs #1 receiver put money in the oline secondary receivers pretty good pretty good back but I really don't have any faith it's one of those gotta see it to believe situations but I will be rooting for him I guess will see
daniel jones is not the worlds worst quarterback i heared rich cimini trashed zach wilson on the michael kay zach like daniel jones need the right kind of coaching if they get it can work sort of
Goofy is not the correct word and too nice for those so call fans but I’ll be polite and not say what I’m thinking 😠 as you said, with the way, the world is now, people look to get behind a cause only because they want to see failure and bad things happen. And it starts with the national media and some of the local media who can’t stop talking about how bad DJ was last year in the few games he played and never talk about everything he had to deal with. I can’t even listen to most Giants podcasts like I regularly did because every single day they have to bring up Daniel Jones. How about Rich Eisen, who is still trying to prove himself correct that the Giants wanted to replace DJ and that’s all he talks about and that’s what people listen to! Thanks for your view and being objective about the situation 😎
I am rooting for DJ and hope we can block this year. Either way its a big year for him and his future with Big Blue. I do believe that dabs and Joe are cooking up something great.
Here's all you need to know.
Best winning percentage in Superbowls:
Green Bay 4-1, 80%
NYG 4-1, 80%
Every other team in the NFL, including New England has a worse winning percentage.
Keep fighting the good fight guys. You're never going to get through to the extreme flank who want to blame all of the teams troubles at one guy's feet, but actual analysis like this grounded in reason and experience might help some fans in the middle from falling into that extreme. People forget that the content creators they love to follow on social media don't generate revenue by providing good, fair and reasonable analysis. They generate their revenue through clicks, views, engagement and subscriptions. Being entertaining and provocative is their goal, not providing good analysis.
Those people who are constantly negative , aren't TRUE Giants fans . I will NEVER boo the Giants . I will disagree sometimes , but never hate or boo.
Say wth you want...I'm a 40+ year Giants fan and when we're bad I criticize em...fan how you fan but foh that we're not real Giants fans 🤡
I’m in the boat of Daniel Jones Super Bowl, MVP come back player of the year
Feel like I'm listening to a child who learned a new word.
I don’t care how you dress it up… As long as that man is the QB. This will not be a winning organization.
Thank u! It’s year 6 wtf are we talking about. We know he’s not good or we wouldn’t have tried for drake maye a year after resigning him 🤦🏾♂️
Change teams.
Hopefully DJ can make it back to playoffs this year if not with the additions this offseason then maybe need a change
Bob stop I can name a few QBs who work with less and still won games ???????
Are you asking a question or making a statement?
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Great Show as always AND as ALWAYS Carl Banks #58 ROLB Michigan State Spartans To Be Put In The Pro Football Hall Of Fame Next to his partner in crime Lawrence Taylor.. We gotta start a serious internet campaign drum up support...
I bought my Daniel Jones jersey right after the draft. Cheered him on, watched games at Duke liked what I saw...then during the Joe Judge years he not only regressed but any spark of aggressiveness was lost..The Tampa game '19 stands as the promise of Jones, but Shurmur had one foot out of the door...Jason Garrett's stagnant offense and Judge's oppressive overbearing coaching style, poor offensive line play, along with Jones' issues with processing, slow eyes, and now including the lack of aggressiveness in attacking 15:05 a defense threatening to go down field whether with Nabers, Hyatt, and Slayton, if he still with the team, Tracy, Jr., Johnson or Miller...But, unfortunately Jones is broken. Oh he'll look good in Training Camp but when the live ammo starts flying around, he'll rush his throws not scan the field, tries to run the 'B' gap. But the defense is aware of that aspect of his game. So now what does he do for an encore of '22?? That's my Daniel Jones concern....We got speed real threatening the whole field change field position or having two play drives type of speed, threatening every PR/KO speed and elusiveness...I honestly believe that if we can maintain our health, where nobody misses 4+ games or no season enders, the Giants in the 100th anniversary year WILL win 11 games and look real good doing it and Jones plays to his strengths like that Tampa Bay game.
And no...I didn't forget the Giants defensive additions Shane Bowen a more conservative coach but more cerebral than Wink Martindale which I think plays to the newfound players now on defense. Burns screaming around the edge, Sexy Dex pushing the center into the QB's lap, Thibs, now with someone who can push him above the numbers, really breaks out and be that closer he wants to be..Okereke the tackle machine gets another young LB to take under his wing, along with steady McFadden, who should be even better in Bowen's system, as it's a lot like what he played in college. Our secondary took a big hit losing McKinney at safety, but getting Tyler Nubin takes a lot of concern away with his exceptional Football I.Q., his athleticism took a hit at the combine and pro day because of a clean-up procedure on one of his knees and affected his forty time. But, wise man says, 'tape don't lie'. 'Te Banks coming off a good rookie season will also be playing a defense more aligned with his total skill set. And playing more zone principles will allow Banks to get his hands on INTs this year. Picking up Phillips in the 3rd Rd evens out the CB room. Flott, Phillips, ànd McCloud makes for a good versatile group at the CB2/ Nickel position...and now the Specialty Teams again, like the defense has: new coach Michael Ghobrial and new athletic additions in Muasau, Tracy, Jr, and Dante (4.2)Miller and perhaps the new TE Theo Johnson as well.
Gunnar Olsewski holds down the PR duties, hats off to Player Personnel Dept. for that mid season acquisition. Now for the elephant in the room: Offensive Line. Never will it be said that Schoen has thrown a ton of resources to address the OLine issues. Welcome Carmen Briscillio to the Giants. And a welcome to Jon Runyan, Jr Jermaine Elumenor the new free agents that I have high hopes for being the best interior linemen that we've had in a long while... Briscillio's big task is fixing Evan Neal's issues with balance in pass protection. This IS IT...he has to play up to his draft status. Usually, I don't think about when a player is drafted, if you can play, then you can play. It's still the same game you played as a kid middle school high school college, now you're with the big boys, time to 'Big Boy Up'. PLAY LIKE IT!!! Adding the Ferentz kid from Iowa as Asst OLine coach was probably the biggest low-key addition. I think he is here specifically for Neal. And we have depth with NFL experience.
Well that's all. I love my Giants...bled blue since 3-12-1 Parcells' first, nearly last, season as the Big Tuna. 🏆🏆🏆🏆💯🙏🏆
Listen everyone. Daniel Jones is great. He's my favourite member of the Monkees. Then it's Micky Dolenz but that's because people say I look like him. Shit.
Why root for someone you don’t believe in? Why go into the SIXTH year trying to tell yourself that a guy who clearly isn’t good enough to get the job done and force yourself to root for him? I for one root for the giants, but I want no part of Daniel jones.
To all u haters out there just look at all the failures that can’t miss first rounders flopped. Sanchez. Donaldson. Wilson. Even Eli in his last 2 yrs was terrible because he was getting pounded on almost every play jones is a decent quarterback never had great receivers how many balls were dropped and how many interceptions came from the ball bouncing off the receivers hands remember engram he dropped a lot of passes. Right in his hands. Also Reese and gettleman ruined this team for years
Only thing more ridiculous than the DJ hate is the UGLY commemorative jerseys that Giants are rolling out this season for the 100th anniversary. They're supposed to wear them twice, which is 2 too many. Wear them in the Germany game where there'll be less exposure and forget about wearing them the second time.
DANIEL JONES IS MY QUARTERBACK
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