Affordable Large Format 3D Printer! (Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga Review)

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  • čas přidán 17. 05. 2024
  • Can a large format 3D printer be both affordable and reliable? Watch to find out!
    OrangeStorm Giga: www.elegoo.com/pages/elegoo-o...
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    Dive into Dr. D-Flo’s review of the Elegoo OrangeStorm Giga, which is not just another 3D printer, but a leviathan in the world of hobbyist 3D printing. With a jaw-dropping build volume of 800 x 800 x 1000 mm, this printer is changing the game, allowing you to bring to life projects that were once too big for hobbyist printers.
    In this video, D-Flo will walk you through the unboxing, assembly, and all the nitty-gritty details of what makes the OrangeStorm Giga stand out. This includes reviewing the speed, accuracy, and a build volume that's 50x that of a desktop printer, all while using the standard 1.75 mm filament. This giant works with the filament you've already got.
    But it's not just about size; it's about the quality and the versatility this printer brings to the table, enabling you to scale up any design from the internet effortlessly. Plus, it has a surprisingly affordable price tag (~$2500).
    Table of Contents:
    00:00​ - Introduction
    01:16​ - Unboxing
    02:57​ - Frame Assembly
    03:59​ - Z Actuators
    04:40​ - Belt-Driven Gantry
    05:53​ - Extruder
    08:11​ - Filament
    09:35​ - Display and Firmware
    10:36​ - Leveling Build Plates
    14:04​ - Speed
    15:35​ - Articulating Dragon Print
    18:18​ - 10kg Spool Holder
    18:58​ - Tall Turbine Blade Print
    22:11​ - Airless Basketball Print
    23:00 - Conclusions
    #largeformat #3dprinting #techreview
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Komentáře • 261

  • @DrDFlo
    @DrDFlo  Před 12 hodinami

    Yikes! It looks like Elegoo has changed the price to $10,000. That ruins the title of this video as this printer is no longer affordable. Also, this price puts the Giga in the same category as the Modix BIG-120X, which comes enclosed for $10k.

  • @BennyTygohome
    @BennyTygohome Před měsícem +105

    This video is much better than the other giga unboxing and assembly videos, which only showed from a distance and nothing up close. Plus you have great personality without the grumbling of some other CZcamsrs 😂

    • @malloott
      @malloott Před měsícem +3

      Yeah this guy has great energy!

  • @viyer00
    @viyer00 Před měsícem +59

    You're probably the most competent person to review this printer, glad to see your thoughts.

    • @brody2642
      @brody2642 Před měsícem +1

      Yeah I forgot what CZcamsr it was, but they got frustrated with it and gave up.

    • @MJ-py7ho
      @MJ-py7ho Před měsícem +3

      There is no probably about it. This is the ONLY competent and qualified person that has dealt with this printer so far.

  • @BigfootPrinting
    @BigfootPrinting Před měsícem +54

    Slice engineering makes a 2.4 mm gamma master nozzle that takes 1.75 mm filament, you don’t need 3mm. You could use your machining tools to make your own or drill others out as well. As for the proprietary nozzle length, you can simply put a copper screw as a spacer above a normal volcano length nozzle or even a V6. This is a lot of us in the high flow high-speed community do for extended melt zones.

    • @DrDFlo
      @DrDFlo  Před měsícem +15

      Appreciate the tips!

    • @BigfootPrinting
      @BigfootPrinting Před měsícem +10

      @@DrDFlo appreciate the video! It’s always a good day on a d flo upload.

    • @llkurofoxll1013
      @llkurofoxll1013 Před měsícem

      Eff slice!

  • @FrankGraffagnino
    @FrankGraffagnino Před měsícem +9

    i think an episode where you upgrade this using all the stuff you've learned on yours (while trying to stay reasonable on cost) would be a great blueprint for people that are looking to get into large format printing but may want to do better than stock.

  • @marcus_w0
    @marcus_w0 Před měsícem +30

    You could just strap some steel wire diagonally, to put the frame under some tension. This would increase the rigidity drastically.

    • @darjanator
      @darjanator Před měsícem +3

      That was my idea too. You could even add some cable tensioners for some really stiff triangles.

    • @Elkarlo1977
      @Elkarlo1977 Před dnem

      Or Reprap style: Threaded Bar on the Top and the Sides.

  • @LincolnWorld
    @LincolnWorld Před měsícem +24

    You are probably the only person with an OrangeStorm Giga that has another printer large enough to store it in. LOL

    • @sunriseshell
      @sunriseshell Před měsícem +4

      "I got this new "small" printer from Elegoo..." lol

  • @ZappyOh
    @ZappyOh Před měsícem +28

    Rigidity is easy to fix.
    Just string up some steel wire crossing between the corners.
    I've always wondered why core XY manufacturers didn't do that from factory.

    • @fouzaialaa7962
      @fouzaialaa7962 Před měsícem +3

      me too its literally a screw and a loop of steel wire

    • @ZappyOh
      @ZappyOh Před měsícem +11

      @@fouzaialaa7962 The only challenge, is securing equal tension, as to not force the cube out of square. But after that, you have extreme rigidity for 3 dollars of hardware.

    • @TheDarkrider551
      @TheDarkrider551 Před měsícem +8

      @@ZappyOh could you not tune it like a guitar string by sound? If the printer was already square to begin with all you would need to do is tighten it and then pluck the wire and match the frequencies for all sides with an app you can download on your phone for free for tuning? Would this not work?

    • @ZappyOh
      @ZappyOh Před měsícem +6

      @@TheDarkrider551 Yes, that would work just fine.
      I didn't say it was impossible, just that the tension needs some attention :)

    • @filipefarias3076
      @filipefarias3076 Před měsícem

      I’m afraid of misalignment as well… As much as I would like to, I don’t think it is THAT SIMPLE.

  • @Mobile_Dom
    @Mobile_Dom Před měsícem +6

    so, what im hearing is, bolt it to the wall, and swap a 1mm nozzle into it

  • @Mytagforhalo
    @Mytagforhalo Před měsícem +25

    I'm glad to see you give the machine a look. I agree, it's about the cheapest way that you're going to get into a machine this size. But it's also something that most hobbyists shouldn't be buying until they're absolutely positive that they need to produce parts in a single shot. It's kind of like a belt printer in that regard.
    It's also been kind of funny to see people post online that they're suddenly concerned about whether they have the space for the machine at home. xD

    • @kazolar
      @kazolar Před měsícem +2

      kinda, belt printer doesn't need a small room to produce long or repeatable prints. It's a niche, but you can setup a belt printer on a desk and just allocate room for it when you do want to print a 6' sword or something else needing the infinite z ability, or more common use case where it just prints one thing after another and you just put a box to collect the finished parts. This thing is purely for large objects, there is no other use case that justifies a printer this big with a single head. If it was an idex and you could do duplicate/mirror prints, there'd be some use cases, but even Elegoo promotional material shows multiple linked heads, so you'd be just setting up copies of the same model (then just get 4 printers and print your copies)

    • @Mytagforhalo
      @Mytagforhalo Před měsícem +1

      @@kazolar A belt printer does, however, require a completely different approch to producing prints. If you just grab a model and toss it on the belt printer, you'd quickly run into atypical issues that the mechanics cause.
      On the other hand, if you're into printing props or typically print really long parts, or need a hundred copies of something, then by all means, go for one.
      Which is why I say its similar to the orange storm in that niche sense. You should buy it when you know you need it. And not the other way around. It should not be your first printer.
      Heck, if all you do is print a bunch of unique small objects, it shouldnt be your second and third either. Even if the size per dollar technically makes sense. Tool heads are vastly better in most cases.

    • @TheDarkrider551
      @TheDarkrider551 Před měsícem +1

      @@kazolar I think that last thing you said was a wonderful use case for this printer, with the linked heads, If there would have been space for the 3 turbine blades from the video he could have spaced 2-3 of them on the bed at once (giga supports 4 print heads im pretty sure). The Issue that I see is how how to space the prints for batch printing? Did Elegoo provide any details on how to setup the printer for its multiple heads and spacing for prints, is it dependent on each print fitting inside a vertical or horizontal perimeter box such that there is a maximum part size per head, can it be configured with 2-3-or 4 heads spaced evenly or at custom distances? This batch printing setup could have shortened his build time from 96hours X 3times ---> to just 96hours if the parts needed to be one piece and he needs multiple of the same piece. I am curious as to how long would it have taken to print the 4 piece version on say a p1p or a set of p1ps or equivalents...

    • @kazolar
      @kazolar Před měsícem

      @TheDarkrider551 4 linked heads is just dumb, if all that it can do. You might as well just get 4 smaller printers. If this thing could do independent control, then you got more utility.

    • @kazolar
      @kazolar Před měsícem

      @Mytagforhalo I have a belt printer. And I have 2 large format printers, my biggest large format is not 800mm big, it's 600x600, and it's way more rigid and a lot faster than this thing is, but since it also has 4 independent heads, it has a lot more utility. The belt printer is a novelty. My other large format is a 500 diameter delta, with 675 true build height, and outside of my idea to print a life size duplicate of one of my kids when he was a toddler, which my wife knixed, I have never printed anything remotely that big.

  • @user-lx9jm1wo3h
    @user-lx9jm1wo3h Před měsícem +9

    I would love to see this upgraded so it can print faster and more accurate.

  • @Archnemesis88
    @Archnemesis88 Před měsícem +5

    Your smile when you took the dragon off the print bed was amazing, I love 3D printing and knew exactly how you were feeling! Your review and opinions on this printer were the best I've seen, your experience with large format printers shows. Can't wait to see your upgrades/next video on your large format printer. Keep up the great work!

  • @pfabiszewski
    @pfabiszewski Před měsícem +7

    Mounting this thing to the wall seems like a good idea

  • @Srjames094
    @Srjames094 Před měsícem +12

    To solve the problem of vibrations, you can place steel cables with tensioners in each corner in the shape of an "X", in the openings that the supports have, a cheap solution that in principle works well.

    • @ErLeuchten
      @ErLeuchten Před měsícem +2

      problem is, you have to do that on all 4 sides. yes you can go with 2 opposing sides but that also solves only half of the problem ,-)

    • @MaxMichel89
      @MaxMichel89 Před měsícem +1

      Ibjust would Put thick Woodpanels on three Sides, or extra Aluminium extrusions as braces.

    • @sikbrik
      @sikbrik Před měsícem

      I wonder if triangular gussets in each corner might help considerably while still offering good access.

  • @ScytheNoire
    @ScytheNoire Před měsícem +15

    I can see A LOT of room for improvements for the crazy creative modders.

    • @glorhi
      @glorhi Před měsícem

      Yes, and all these improvements had to be made by the manufacturer for an additional $100.

  • @MakerBees333
    @MakerBees333 Před měsícem +11

    16:58 😁😆 That smile of GIANT prints is exactly why I jumped on the kickstarter ❤.
    I would in the kindest way possible BEG to see you lay out upgrades for the hotend 🙏🙏🙏. While it maybe 6months before I would even consider it, I have big plans and NO one better to lay out a step by step recommendation on upgrades.
    Thank you for the outstanding review.❤

    • @Mytagforhalo
      @Mytagforhalo Před měsícem +2

      I'd expect a CNC kitchen style volcano insert to pop up to allow standard volcano nozzles to be used. Which would immediately widen the spectrum of nozzles to pick from including CHT and hardened variants. Which would then help to increase the flow rates and technically allow for better speeds.
      I'm kind of surprised that they more or less made a super bambu lab style hot end. It's also a shame that they chose to use extrusions with slots only on the inside for beauty. External slots would have allowed for a steel panel enclosure to easily be bolted on, which would have been easy to ship with the machine and stiffen it up a fair bit. open extrusions also would allow for many more options for the community to modify.

    • @MakerBees333
      @MakerBees333 Před měsícem +1

      @@Mytagforhalo An insert would be an awesome idea 💡!
      For the extrusion I think it might be an improvement to have a solid flat outside for rigidity… not sure but it most likely wasn’t an accident.
      That said I will be enclosing mine, but until they ship mine I will just be speculating on how, although ugly I have cost-free plywood available.
      If I can I may just brace the top of the printer off the wall so I can get consistency up and down the build volume. If that won’t do because of space, to make it more robust on top I may use c-clamp style attachments with threaded rods to take up any slack across the corners like the tiny triangle bracket do.

    • @filipefarias3076
      @filipefarias3076 Před měsícem

      I would highly appreciate an hot end upgrade as well! I bought it on kickstarter first batch and my intended use is to print with large nozzles!

  • @802Garage
    @802Garage Před měsícem +4

    Nice review! Looks like they need more bracing and definitely an upgraded extruder with a much larger nozzle. A few strange choices, but it's def impressive.

  • @dodman0907153500
    @dodman0907153500 Před 20 dny

    finally!!! you are absolutely single one person who manage to reasonably review this printer on the WHOLE PLANET. thank you...

  • @UncleJessy
    @UncleJessy Před měsícem +5

    This was such a fantastic video! Amazing job on this & can’t wait to see that huge wind device!

    • @UncleJessy
      @UncleJessy Před měsícem +1

      Side note, also seeing pretty large layer shifts anytime I run out or manually change the filament

  • @kylelammie4621
    @kylelammie4621 Před měsícem +3

    Maybe a follow up where you bolt up some plywood sheets as shear plates? I feel like for an extra $60, this would greatly improve the major issue of vibration.

  • @SlinkySlonkyWaffle
    @SlinkySlonkyWaffle Před měsícem +3

    i think adding acrylic sheets, of maybe 4 to 6mm thick inside the frame on the sides and back could highly improve rigidity of the frame, since theres indeed very little crossbracing. and the acrylic sheet of your choice of colour could add something to the look of the printer!

  • @thecamarokid4230
    @thecamarokid4230 Před měsícem +19

    You need a filament drier for that 10kg filament spool!!! lol

    • @DrDFlo
      @DrDFlo  Před měsícem +18

      Yes! It was dry when I first loaded it up, but on a 3+ day print it needs to be sitting in a dry box during the print. Didn't have a large enough one.

    • @thecamarokid4230
      @thecamarokid4230 Před měsícem +5

      @@DrDFloMaybe a huge food dehydrator.

    • @condorman6293
      @condorman6293 Před měsícem +5

      Septree food dehydrator. $215 and large enough for a 10kg spool (or 20x 1kg spools). Gets up to 95c

  • @MrUntermieter
    @MrUntermieter Před měsícem +2

    As you were asking for feedback:
    - Great video, love it!
    - Yes, a modified / upgraded tool head would be highly appreciated.
    - Stability issues / vibration: As already mentioned in other comments, I would go for either additional struts or diagonal cables. And if the top stays still open, really huge prints could even be removed without dismantling the structural support.
    - Print idea: As TPU seemed to work fine, how about printing a nice flexible waste paper bin? And, of course, we _need_ so see a GIGA BENCHY! 😉😂

  • @xpim3d
    @xpim3d Před měsícem +2

    Best review so far; concise and eloquent! 👌🖤

  • @KolMan2000
    @KolMan2000 Před měsícem +1

    I find it interesting he opted to use the dead center of the printer for most of his prints rather than using the advertised feature of only utilizing one bed.

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox Před měsícem +1

    I like the idea of a remix with two beds instead of four and not so high so it can be put on a shelf. 800w x 400d x 400h opens up lots of long and thin objects with strength in the long axis, while still racking onto deep shelving.

  • @kupperbikerackmounts8784
    @kupperbikerackmounts8784 Před měsícem +2

    I'm waiting for my OSG to arrive in a couple months. So glad you have made a video on it. Please mod this machine to make it better! Like a better extruder, figuring out how to use IDEX for multicolor printing, enclose this beast and add a chamber heater.

  • @johnnymac1976
    @johnnymac1976 Před měsícem +2

    X-bracing on three sides and wall mounts connected to the top of the printer would greatly improve rigidity. Make the wall mounts long and quickly removable, as well as one of the X-braces, and you've reduced most of the negatives of the added bracing. I wish I knew about the early adopter fund me page!

  • @arjunagarwala4703
    @arjunagarwala4703 Před měsícem +3

    Would you recommend creating a pellet extruder to allow for more volumetric flow and also possibly modifying the extruder to have a beacon?

  • @BennyTygohome
    @BennyTygohome Před měsícem +3

    I'd definitely like to see videos about upgrading this printer, such as upgrading extruder tool head, bracing, sensors etc

  • @foxacoustics
    @foxacoustics Před měsícem +2

    Instead of vertical support columns, make them extending outward at a 20 deg angle. This will create a solid tripod design that can't flex.

  • @danielcharlton6195
    @danielcharlton6195 Před měsícem +2

    I feel like those corner braces have some perfect holes for using some Wire Balustrade Kits to tighten up the shaking and add some diagonal rigidity.

  • @gruzzob
    @gruzzob Před měsícem +2

    That's an insane machine, would love to have the need, space, and money for one myself :)
    The levelling procedure was great. The combination of the metal plates with levelling screw cutouts and the software interface for both the bulk probing and individual point reprobing along with the readout giving you an idea of how far to turn each screw was amazing, though it would have been nice if it also converted the value to number of turns or something equivalent. Still really nice though.
    While I share your concerns about the rigidity of the frame towards the top, I don't believe that was the only issue with the turbine blade you printed. It's movement looked like the nozzle was dragging when moving past/over it, and thus pushing the blade. This is an issue with printing any tall and thin parts. Strictly it happens with sturdier prints too, but those prints are substantial enough that it is less likely to have an effect.
    This can often (but not always) be mitigated by using Z-hop, at the potential cost of increased stringing.
    Something I noted during assembly was that the toolplate had multiple Canbus ports on it, suggesting the possibility for a multiple toolhead printer. Either that or toolhead addons such as alternative z-probes or an accelerometer for resonance tuning. Resonance tuning for a printer such as this with its frame wobble at high z heights would be great, especially if it is possible to have the tuning be z-dependent (I am not sure if Klipper has this functionality, but I could see it becoming a thing).
    Overall the ease of use and setup, combined with its low price point make it seem like a reasonable choice for someone who needs a large format printer.

  • @roysigurdkarlsbakk3842
    @roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 Před měsícem +4

    "For 1.75mm filament, the nozzle has to be smaller", no, not really. 3dsolex, who owns the patent that Bondtech uses to produce their CHT nozzles, sells nozzles up to 2mm for 1.75mm filament. I have one ;)

  • @SarahKchannel
    @SarahKchannel Před měsícem +2

    So you unpacked it the living room, but then assembled in the garage.... i feel there is a story there :)

  • @iopfarmer
    @iopfarmer Před měsícem +2

    Give this machine some crossing cables on the sides to make it rigid and a 1mm nozzle on a proper hotend, and it should be great!

    • @filipefarias3076
      @filipefarias3076 Před měsícem

      It comes with a 1mm extra nozzle, nobody gave it a try yet though.

  • @onurcetinkaya4873
    @onurcetinkaya4873 Před měsícem +1

    For stability, you can print some brackets and screw the top-back side of the printer to the wall.

  • @Made_by_Henne
    @Made_by_Henne Před měsícem +3

    A extruder upgrade video would be nice.👍

  • @roysigurdkarlsbakk3842
    @roysigurdkarlsbakk3842 Před měsícem +3

    Thanks for this. I guess adding some diagonal bars to stiffen it up will help greatly, and of course, an accelerometer - I mean - it runs klipper, so it shouldn't be that hard :)

  • @TheOystei
    @TheOystei Před měsícem +3

    would be interesting to se what it takes for this to become a more usable printer at that large size (like, can you relativly easily stiffen it up enough, and what would it take to give it a far more flow capability so you can print big, reasonable quality and faster.
    I assume increasing flow and nozzle size would help a lot since you don't need to move as fast to print a lot faster.

  • @NeoIsrafil
    @NeoIsrafil Před měsícem +1

    Honestly... I was really impressed with what elegoo has designed. It's sturdy looking and well designed overall and it would have been hard for me to do better for the price. If I had room I'd buy one.
    Also that giant effing dragon is probably exactly what I'd print most... I've got the files for the same one (and several others) that I bought...and honestly....worth.
    Also, upgrading to a nema36 is totally an easy thing for this design, and honestly you could probably go to 4 of them pretty easily and really have a solid and FAST machine.

  • @bretkline4633
    @bretkline4633 Před měsícem +8

    I have this machine on order...yes, yes, yes start the extruder upgrades. Best unboxing video to date on this machine! Keep up the great work. (I purchased this machine for wind turbines also.)

    • @SanjaySharma-ov1kf
      @SanjaySharma-ov1kf Před měsícem

      Hey @bretline4633, I am in the same boat, ordered this printer for wind turbine :)..Currently printing on N4M and having some challenges with the AFG. Please let me know if you are planning to post any videos of your journey

    • @bretkline4633
      @bretkline4633 Před měsícem

      @@SanjaySharma-ov1kf Ya, I can't wait to see the crazy shit that people will make with this monster. Wonder what a massive structural flower pot in PLA silk or chair will go for on Etsy?

  • @thecamarokid4230
    @thecamarokid4230 Před měsícem +13

    A good upgrade would be a Beacon Eddy Current Surface Scanner. Bed leveling would be a lot quicker. Hopefully you upgrade it to make it better.

    • @markwebcraft
      @markwebcraft Před měsícem +3

      Lol, keep watchin

    • @timotowl4429
      @timotowl4429 Před měsícem

      I see a problem with the 4 "different" flex plates and the holes/creases beneath/between them. From my experience you have to recalibrate for every flexplate ( I do have one and it crashed right into the bed, when i didn't change the profile)

  • @evgenyunus
    @evgenyunus Před měsícem

    Hurray! My favorite foreign blogger! Excellent honest review from a technical point of view!🎉❤

  • @user-mj1in6qf2d
    @user-mj1in6qf2d Před měsícem +1

    Thank you! Would love to see with upgraded extruder. Pellet extruder would be even better (workhorse or something larger but affordable)

  • @GaryTabarJr
    @GaryTabarJr Před měsícem

    Excellent review! Question: Since you are into structural items, could some simple diagonal braces at each corner significantly reduce vibration? That would be a cheap and easy fix, and wingnuts could be used to simplify removing them if they got in the way of removing a large printed part.
    Also, what are your thoughts about moving the rear mounted spool holder to the front for easier access?

  • @fouzaialaa7962
    @fouzaialaa7962 Před měsícem +1

    for the price point , that is a heck of a deal !!! the materials alone are worth it !!
    maybe brace it with steel wire to the base or add more extrusions to it to stiffen it up ,also maybe increase the contact area of the base to the floor and weigh it down.
    there is ways to combat that wobbling at the top , but i still cant get over the low price , its definitely a good base to modify and DIY if you want a large 3D printer
    they should ship the corner brackets separately for them not to get damaged

  • @TheDarkrider551
    @TheDarkrider551 Před měsícem +2

    Would love to see an extruder upgrade for this printer to increase its speed and flow and maybe some ideas on how to enclose it for working with abs?
    If you get it working and dont want to return it do you think it might be worth drilling and installing acrylic plates directly into the printers frame and adding front doors to it to make it fully enclosed? It might ruin the aesthetics of the printer but I would sacrifice a pretty printer for a printer with enhanced capabilities any day at this price point... and heck the acrylic should help by adding some bracing for the whole printer.
    I'm waiting on my printer for printing large molds to work with composites I know ill likely need to work on the prints surface finish anyway to get the quality i want on my finished parts but that can be done with sanding and fillers, this printer is mainly a means to remove the disposable buck process and jump straight to the mold process from cad. It would take several days to weeks to make the molds by hand from a buck and then make parts, this will allow me to make large molds with relatively little effort and time investment where I can spend it on actually building the parts or designing and simulating them.

  • @Eric-Truong
    @Eric-Truong Před měsícem

    Hey Dr. D-Flo, I was wondering about your thoughts on potentially having a pellet extruder modification of the orangestorm giga, any thoughts? Thanks!

  • @riba2233
    @riba2233 Před měsícem

    you are the perfect person to review this printer and you nailed it, thanks :) please modify it and make more videos, that would be awesome!

  • @jashuballen2603
    @jashuballen2603 Před měsícem

    Hi, I just found your channel, great work. I’m looking for a pellet extruder that has options for multiple extruders feeding one mandrel and die for simultaneous layering of two to three different thermoplastic types or mixing in additives like glass fill that you can adjust on the fly for greater strength added strategically through out a large part. Have you come across anything like I described on the market today?

  • @MyMGBJourney
    @MyMGBJourney Před měsícem +1

    Do you think a simple X cable setup on two sides of the printer would be enough to aid in reducing the print artifacts at higher levels? This seems like a relatively cost effective solution.

  • @Tuurdub
    @Tuurdub Před měsícem

    Very nice you take non-planar printing into consideration. Good job!👍🏻👍🏻

  • @AndrewHelgeCox
    @AndrewHelgeCox Před měsícem

    Is there a cavity in the frame extrusions suitable for filling with oily sand?

  • @roboman2444
    @roboman2444 Před měsícem +3

    Seems like the rigidity could be vastly improved with less than 100$ of aluminum (or carbon fiber tubes) and an hour of time.

  • @ourdroneadventures8048
    @ourdroneadventures8048 Před měsícem

    Have you thought about using orcaslicer and not the elegoo cura slicer provided? How about strengthening the frame to avoid the Z axis wobble?
    Also wondering if the beacon or similar fast probe would really work given it looks like you have a klipper interface from the outset ? Can it really be that simple?

  • @C-M-E
    @C-M-E Před měsícem +2

    Excellent review, and I had a lot of the same concerns. To me, it's largely a parts kit printer with a Huge frame. Seems as the future owner will be in upgrade mode right out of the box, which is rather disappointing, but it's a decent base with a relatively easy path to get this chonk into acceptable capability. A higher flowing hotend would be job one though, which to me appears to be a huge oversight from Elegoo. Nema 23's should have been standard equipment on that large of a frame size/mass ratio.

  • @velvia7880
    @velvia7880 Před měsícem +1

    Pull some cross wires to stiffen the frame even more? There will probably be 3rd party nozzle extender spacers. So can use V6 and Volcano nozzles easily.

  • @3DHP
    @3DHP Před 12 dny

    Thank you for this video. I will share on my Socials.

  • @lasskinn474
    @lasskinn474 Před měsícem +1

    i'm interested in seeing a 3mm filament and extruder conversion.
    not really thinking of buying or anything, but just you know, I would find that an interesting thing.
    the new extruder and doing the new extruder for this seems weird. is there some cht shenigans going on inside the nozzle?

  • @akira5872
    @akira5872 Před měsícem

    Insane video ! Could you make a beefy hotend version and explain when it is necessary to switch from filament to pellets in terms of volumetric flow rate ? Thanks !

  • @DanteEhome
    @DanteEhome Před měsícem

    Looking forward to buy one!

  • @tylersnard
    @tylersnard Před 24 dny

    How difficult would it be to swap out the extruder head for something else, like a pellet extruder?

  • @zeke7100
    @zeke7100 Před měsícem +4

    1.5k to 2k is certainly affordable, i guess, but the size isn't really "hobby size" it's more of a "look how big I can print in my garage" size.
    I'd much prefer the Magneto X, which although smaller, costs about the same, and can also print at 800mm/s.

  • @KolMan2000
    @KolMan2000 Před měsícem +1

    My main thought on the printer is that Elegoo took a very small form factor approach to a large form factor printer. When you’re doing a printer that big but still trying to keep the filament compatibility to 1.75 mm then you’re going to be massively limiting the capabilities of the printer. Also, it’s funny that they decided to use such a massive nozzle yet I’m able to easily crank way more than that on my regular volcano hot end with just a CHT added.

  • @yourdadplaying
    @yourdadplaying Před měsícem +2

    15:24 with it having Klipper, wouldn't Input Shaping or Resonance Compensation help to reduce the ringing from the top-most vibrations? Or is layer-shifting the real concern here?

    • @Saeschboy
      @Saeschboy Před měsícem +2

      The resonance changes a lot in the z-travel. I don't if it is possible to take that in consideration in input shaping.

  • @noktrnl123
    @noktrnl123 Před měsícem +1

    The hot end looks a lot like the one on my Neptune 4 max except with a longer heat block and nozzle. For the max there's a printable bamboo lab adapter. Maybe that'll help.

  • @GordLamb
    @GordLamb Před měsícem

    Great video... and I genuinely can't believe you got that thing to +/- 0.4mm. That's insane for a build plate that size.

  • @alfredotorres3595
    @alfredotorres3595 Před měsícem

    What the name of the music played when he started the probing time “11:54”on the printer

  • @tomyocom5886
    @tomyocom5886 Před měsícem

    Nice vid. For the giga could you just cinch down a tie down at the top of the printer to hold all four sides tighter? Works for flopping steal and wood on the back of a truck and fast! Can't wait to see your. wind project.

  • @gadgetman12
    @gadgetman12 Před 28 dny

    Great video I would consider getting one but do not have the room I run an ender 3 pro and going to extend it Double the size

  • @travisfabel8040
    @travisfabel8040 Před měsícem

    I'm extremely curious if some cables going corner to corner in an X, with turnbuckles to allow for tensioning and adjustment would make it strong enough to not give issues at the top of the travel.

  • @treschlet
    @treschlet Před 22 dny

    one interesting thought that came to mind: a huge printer like this could be less negatively affected by lowering the acceleration rates (depending on the print) since it's likely doing much longer runs where it can really get up to speed. So you might be able to reduce the vibration issues by turning down acceleration without necessarily a huge hit to total print time

  • @sunriseshell
    @sunriseshell Před měsícem +2

    Is standing and kneeeling on the bed a good idea?

  • @thomaswakefield6889
    @thomaswakefield6889 Před měsícem +1

    I want to see you print a 4ft model of the Raider Class Corvette from Star Wars. As for the top heavy vibration when doing large prints that's is an easy fix by building a top support frame you can anchor to a wall

  • @krysrus111
    @krysrus111 Před měsícem +1

    I would use 1.0 mm nozzle as default, lowering the speed and vibration, increasing the flow rate. At this scale it will be sufficient and possibly better print quality

  • @AppliedMathematician
    @AppliedMathematician Před měsícem

    Is there an easy way to mount this frame to corners of the rooms walls? That should be able to significantly reduce vibration issues!

  • @jonathana.1802
    @jonathana.1802 Před měsícem +1

    Can't wait to see upgrade motors, extruder and maybe Klipper..

  • @truetech4158
    @truetech4158 Před měsícem

    You can add some X bracing or solid sheets of material to the outer sides of the printer, then crank up the speed without degradation!

  • @quentinbusuttil2760
    @quentinbusuttil2760 Před měsícem +1

    Looks like the hotend and extruder are the exact same that can be found on the Neptune 4 series. I think that with a proper nozzle you could go a high as 45mm3/s… Will still take a while to print a cube with large density but yeah, here comes the variable infill ;)

  • @corrupted1850
    @corrupted1850 Před měsícem

    3rd solution to the filament runout sensor have the sensor right above the extruder as it's direct drive and your can save so much filament with that

  • @markhoward3851
    @markhoward3851 Před měsícem

    Great video. Wish I had gotten in on this Kickstarter, I didn't know about it. It is a luxury, but there are a few places it would work great. Unfortunately at estimate $2500 this is not for the home hobbyist. Keep us the great work!

  • @skaltura
    @skaltura Před měsícem +2

    I have a project which needs to be done in single print preferrably, actually multiple such, and even Giga is too small for some of them.
    HVAC / Datacenter related stuff.
    Just doing the first project, probably a week or two of printing or so with the giga will save me multiple times what the printer did cost.
    Or put in other words, i would have made that DIY still, different materials, by hand, but Giga gives me better end result, while i have to spent fraction of the working time on it.

  • @mosesarambula2090
    @mosesarambula2090 Před 7 dny

    Which large style printer would you recommend if we are making large parts? Could you recommend one of each kind?

  • @ny-lights
    @ny-lights Před měsícem

    Would love to see you upgrade and mod this printer! Especially since it runs Klipper, it shouldn't be too hard.

  • @josephb3147
    @josephb3147 Před měsícem

    Would it help to mount some braces to walls... say set it in a corner with bracing

  • @davidconner-shover51
    @davidconner-shover51 Před měsícem +1

    thing to print next would be cross beam supports to replace those corner brackets with, as well as a brick holders to keep a bunch of mass on the top, might seriously increase print speeds.
    Come to think about it, much larger corner brackets would work nicely

  • @1050cnc
    @1050cnc Před měsícem +1

    Just watched a 3d printing nerd's video about this same printer and omg what a load of nothing it was. a whuge waste of 20min it was. Love your videos, professional and informative. awesome content as always

  • @severpop8699
    @severpop8699 Před měsícem +1

    Me thinks that if you bolt to the frame some perspex/plexiglass sheets of 5-8mm thickness, plus one on the top, you get some sort of enclosure and enhance the rigidity a lot, and I mean... a lot.

  • @logitech4873
    @logitech4873 Před měsícem

    1500W = 7A in most countries.
    Is it 1500W in Europe as well? I know that printers like the Bambu machines have completely different power consumptions in 120v and 230v countries, heating up far faster on 230v.

  • @bami2
    @bami2 Před měsícem +1

    Very nice video!
    I don't understand why this frame doesn't have cross bracing, at least on the sides, back and top of the machine. Even just some steel cables under tension would work and wouldn't have added much to the cost. It's all parallel structure with all the rigidity coming from the corners, by how easy it was to square one of the brackets back this just isn't ideal. The missing reverse bowden tube is another thing I don't understand why they didn't include it, even if it just avoids one issue that leads to a failed print it would've paid itself back.

  • @JoshSweet
    @JoshSweet Před měsícem +1

    You just need some diagonal cross frames to stabilize and tie the top to the bottom.

  • @Todestelzer
    @Todestelzer Před 15 dny

    You need a thermal stable room as well. With such long aluminum extrusions the thermal expansion must be noticeable in a multi day print.

  • @skaltura
    @skaltura Před měsícem +1

    How long until someone adapts something like Afterburner / EVA with Rapido UHF on one of these? ;)

  • @MrBlakBunny
    @MrBlakBunny Před měsícem +1

    i would like one about 2/3rd's size honestly. there are cases where a single large print is more useful then smaller prints in pieces, but i can't justify something quite that big that can only realtstically print thin parts

    • @ulforcemegamon3094
      @ulforcemegamon3094 Před měsícem

      I feel that Elegoo will release a smaller versión , there is a reason is called the "orangestorm giga" ain't it ? , one could get a orangestorm medium or something lol

  • @filanfyretracker
    @filanfyretracker Před měsícem +1

    They might also be using 4 beds for the same reason the in development Voron Phoenix will, the heatup can be staggered across the bed heaters reducing overall total pull on the circuit. allowing it to be run on a typical home outlet.

    • @filipefarias3076
      @filipefarias3076 Před měsícem +1

      It is also possible to heat only the print beds that are used in the specific ongoing print

    • @ulforcemegamon3094
      @ulforcemegamon3094 Před měsícem

      ​​@@filipefarias3076 yeah , the prusa XL follows the same doctrine , have multiple beds so that you only need to heat up the bed that you are going to use , that way You use way less energy for smaller prints

  • @justinvellier6220
    @justinvellier6220 Před měsícem

    I think if you put some corner to corner bracing on 3 sides if with help with the rigidity . Try it and do another video.

  • @user-rh2gj1kr6j
    @user-rh2gj1kr6j Před 25 dny

    22:32 Did you stand on the printer table with your shoes on?

  • @user-su1bn2ku1v
    @user-su1bn2ku1v Před měsícem

    Damn good eval, man.

  • @LukeGoodwins94
    @LukeGoodwins94 Před měsícem +1

    if only elegoo focused on the levelling issues with the 4 max