McLaren 765LT Spider | evo REVIEW
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- čas přidán 1. 12. 2021
- Is the McLaren 765LT Spider just an open-top version of the already brilliant coupe, or does it have a different, more engaging personality? Steve Sutcliffe hit the road and track in Spain to find out.
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Steve really is at the top of his game. His genuine enthusiasm for cars really comes across in every one of his videos. Combined with his mastery of piece-to-camera while driving...makes for incredibly enjoyable content.
Steve is a true enthusiast, you cna feel it in his reviews. Even remember his old 997 Turbo PDK review.. He is loving it genuinly!
Steve is a true enthusiast, you cna feel it in his reviews. Even remember his old 997 Turbo PDK review.. He is loving it genuinly!
he's been around for a long time now, always delivers
huh, just like you. only realized now who i'm replying to 😆
You can always rely on good old Stevie boy to do an excellent review.
Steve is really good at talking like he’s not absolutely hauling the mail
I digest videos from EVO, and other similar and equally awesome channels, on a regular basis. I've consumed every copy of EVO right back from issue 04 when I was a teenage. That's given me a false sense of confidence in my understanding of just how magical cars like this McLaren really are - the reality is I've never sat in one.
I went for a drive in my friends 2020 Audi RS3 the other and he let me give it the full beans Launch Control... hoooooly sh*t.
As blown away as I was in that moment, I couldn't help but imagine what a car like this (over 1 sec quicker 0 - 62) must feel like. Thank you so much for giving us an insight into exotic machinary that us mere mortals would never normally get the chance to enjoy.
Go to a track day dude! You can experience multiple supercars in one day
Love EVO reviews never let us down
Steve does a excellent job in his reviews. He is definitely one of my favorites. Such a passion
I wish McLaren produced a rival to Cayman and Emira, an affordable sports car with same dna as their more expensive models. I would seriously consider it.
540c? Its abit expensive...80k 2nd hand...but still...its a Mclaren.
@@catlee8064 that’s not a competitor. It’s way faster in a straight line and on a track. Maybe the new GT4 with a PDK, but the way McLaren tunes their cars I still don’t think there would be a chance
@@akafxde7245 Probably won't last more than a few laps on track, unlike the Porsches...
@@3xc1t3r well yeah, but that’s a given. That’s like saying a polyester bathing suit is more rugged than denim jeans.
@@3xc1t3r That's the stereotype of british cars in general. But McLaren has equal or even better reliability record as other cars in its class
Back to your best EVO, great photography. Nice one 👍🏽
Great, great video! Incredible skills Steve and exhilarating camera work, both on track and otherworldly on road!! :-D Loved every moment!
Agreed, its really great to see a car like this put through its paces on the track properly
Since CHOC stopped and Autocar's reviews are duller than life itself, Evo has filled a gap nicely. Steve is also the man to do this, so more of it please!
Steve is the best...is a tradition to hear him..FIRST....when a new car is coming...
Brilliant to see that it’s engaging on the road and not just on track.
Cant believe how crisp your videos look. Spectacular.
Steve is the best! More, please.
Great video and review, thanks evo and Steve.
Fantastic video. Visuals are on another level!
Fpv shot at 0:50 is unreal 🔥, whole video once again is a masterpiece 👏🏼
Possibly the sexiest looking modern hyper super car . Just stunning good looks from all angles
Can't you switch off the bell during breaking?
Brilliant review, Steve, you're really at the top of the game. Incredible car too!
Gotta be the best looking car in the world atm
From France with passion and respect ✌🏼🇨🇵😎
That Road is stunning
Spectacular video , brilliant!!!!!
I am their target customer here in the states. I didn’t want another Porsche (the benchmark) and can’t do the Ferrari thing. McLaren should absolutely be the choice. But the brutal one year depreciation, uncertainty of the brand, lack of dealers etc. is still terrible. Brit press loves these cars to death. They just never talk about the rest. 🤷♂️
Ditto
On the other hand second hand value at the bottom of the depreciation curve you get so much of a car for pennies. It’s the reliability and horrible dealer support that I shy away. Although from what I hear from Senna owners, it has been surprising reliable
@@porschecollector727
The Senna? Weren’t a few Senna’s caught on fire? Maybe I’m thinking of a different car
@@porschecollector727 Absolutely true. And a very interesting proposition. I just don’t have the kind of money to take a chance on losing 50-75k.
@@projectr2451 yes few caught fire in the first year. However many more turned out to be reliable. Go figure
The 720s is enough trust me
I have one and it’s NOT NORMAL
very smooth though
How's the reliability
@@xenontech9 believe it or not, no problems whatsoever after 3 years
@@xenontech9 2019 coupe is perfect
@@ovadialevy478 You definitely brought a unicorn.
@@zarbon700 knock on wood
Love the blue
class work by sutcliffe..car and driver complimenting each other
More Steve please!!!
Peak OEM engineering, no company will top this with just combustion engine
Porsche is not far behind
I’d like to give one a good thrashing but I don’t yearn to own one. Glad to see Mclaren at their best though
My dream car. Amazing machine. We’ll done Mclaren.
Best Supercar money can buy.
And the last Pure combustion one from McLaren 🏆
McLaren should Really work with Yamaha in making there cars sound better. Especially for these LT versions.
can you please show the numbers in metric? only a small part of the world uses bhp and lpb.
Why can't more turbo charged cars sound like this?
Why did so many car Journalists say they didn't like it. It's a Masterpiece and yes I've always loved it. If only i would buy one tomorrow.
Early Christmas Present. Steve in a hot McLaren. Thanks Santa :)
Great car. Can't afford it.
cool car!
My dream car is a gt3rs and gt2rs. And an Apollo intense emotione.
Love the MC but too!!!!!! Expensive!!!! On everything!!!!
awesome 😍😍😍
Steve Sutcliffe = Must watch!
Incredible video …. Sensational car AND ITS BRITISH .
I see they still haven't sorted the panel alignment issues since the 720s came out 4 years ago.....
Mister S did a little mouth-fart at 1:47 and it kinda made my evening.
😗
Steve is simply too good at his job.
He really is!!
What is it with the constant pinging and beeping when you go hard on the brakes - will drive me nuts!
dream job
If mclaren sort out the faults and a little bit more to speed they could be the best cars in the world i love them but then what car can you with out faults
Dear Santa
Soo goood
Steve is the best
You didn’t mention that in 3 months mclaren will release a better version of the same car and devalue the one you just bought.
Best car ever
We can’t hear anything!!!! Good job!!
👏👏👏
Thr LTs are the most exciting ones. Anyone of them are 👍
Comfort seats in LT models make me violently sick.
Great review - even though I scanned it briefly.
Just ponder this car with better exterior design.
Ladies and gentlemen... The supercar perfected.
Holy is this guy high. I'm falling asleep
Gang
Again Mr. Sutcliffe hits the real issue with this sports car : its price.
For raw power, as good as it is, there are other equally appealing competitors which also have a legitimate sport lineage like McLaren, have comparable or better performance capabilities, yet cost a significant amount less but deliver better quality and refinement.
Let's just consider ASTON MARTIN's DB11 AMR. Turn-your-head-around good looks. Exceptional performance.
Every day usability. Irresistible mechanical spell: V12!!.
And close to perfect fit and finish quality in every single inch of the vehicle.
Blazes!,,, Actually, even the very expensive DBS SUPERLEGGERA commands a price, as of today's date, while 'speccing' a large part of the options list, lower than the base 675LT Spider.
And we all know McLaren's recent-past history on the quality shelf.
When viewed in that comparison -- and I'm talking as a genuine potential customer not just figuratively -- the AMR outshines the 765LT, mostly because after I park a car in my garage, regardless of if it was a pocket easy purchase, or if I'm burning the barn and my children's inheritance in the process, I don't want to have to see the faces at the dealership again for a long while.
I buy sport cars and motorcycles, not headaches and nightmares.
It is a beautiful, purposeful and performing sport vehicle, that's indisputable.
I truly hope durability and quality are up to the asking price; otherwise it is just a purchase for this brand lovers and loyalists. Nothing wrong with that, as we all have our own rationally-questionable allegiances in that regard.
But, for the rest of its target market who are not yet smitten, the price tag, which will surely will be way higher than MSRP given its very low planned production numbers, and the brand's past quality sins, will give most a moment to pause and consider other options.
UFO !
That is my peak car. If money were no object, I would still want the 765LT. I do feel sorry for the younger generation. Theta gruntburger podcast whilst driving a soulless EV!
If McLaren could just put quality control on par with their performance they would be respected a great deal more in the supercar world.
sounds like a vacuum cleaner
Dash
10nyears ago McLaren was the under dog in the supercar world not they sometimes embarrass Lamborghini and Ferrari. The P1 is still king hybrid
They're unreliable though. Ferrari, Porsche and lambo could go faster but they choose reliability over that last bit of oomph. The 720 cant even do 2 laps on the ring in the summer whilst the pista can go most of the day flat out.
Hugh
It's pretty well known that the original 765 LT has trouble putting the power down. Are you saying the spider version solves all that?
There's absolutely no way on earth that's true 😅
''Well known'' by who? Never heard about that !
Slightly yes, due to a bit more weight on the rear axle even (especially with a roof down) a 720s roadster as tested on a real street was a bit faster to 60 and 100 than a coupe. It was also proved at the Dragtimes channel by Brooks. I suppose this is the case here too
"trouble putting the power down"; maybe you mean that "grip level matters more for a RWD car than for a 4WD car". Hmm, no one would have guessed that. With 765 1/4 mile times in the low 9s, no rational person agrees that the car has any difficulty putting power down. Ask GT2RS or 488 Pasta drivers how badly they get smoked by 765s . . . .
I'll take one in Nardo Orange, please! Spyder looks miles better than the coupe. Top down, brains blown off!
What a sexy sexy monster!
gg
I know what’s wrong with it , I don’t own one ☝️
second
Omg bruh omg ….
It’s a shame McLaren don’t care about their customers and it’ll drop like a stone
Amazing performance but those panel gaps and uneven alignment of panels in a car north of 300k lbs doesn't speak to its real value.
Definitely don’t buy a McLaren for perfect body fits. That’s why Porsche exists.
What's that annoying BEEP BEEP when braking?? so annoying
“What’s wrong with it… I can’t think of anything.”
Well first off it’s a McLaren so it’s already broken and will be in McLaren’s possession more than yourself even though you payed $500,000+ for it. Secondly, it might just not even work at all and you actually might have to get a whole new car…sorry, but it’s true.
It's not true though, is it? It's actually a load of shite. Let me guess, you've never owned a McLaren yourself. I have (720s Spider) and it's been perfect.
@@willmjt2678 I didn’t specifically say *ALL* McLarens are faulty because that’s not true and I definitely know that. If you look at a video from a while back on Savage Garage. They were at a lunch gathering and someone their had just gotten their new 765. His car literally wasn’t able to drive properly for more than 5 minutes. He returned it to McLaren and got an SVJ. If you’ve seen Alex Choi’s Instagram stories in the past, you have he has explained that his 720 that is completely stock other than wheels, a wrap, and down pipes has been at the McLaren service center more than he’s had it. As recently as the Savage Rally (the savage garage hosted a huge super car rally) Alex’s 720 actually just stopped functioning completely. The car wouldn’t shift; sometimes it would shut off while he was driving and sometimes it just wouldn’t turn back on. Since he couldn’t shift he also couldn’t even do the speed limit. He just had it trailered the rest of the rally and had to had a Fiat 500. I’m positive you’ve seen Senna’s completely burning to the ground just from wiring problems. Like I said what they do is incredible, but they have so many problems with their cars.
@@willmjt2678 if you go to about 6:19 and put the speed at 0.25 you can see the door and fender aren’t aligned AND in the corner they’re shaking. (I’m guessing that’s not supposed to happen) this could just be the angle of the camera as well though. In normal speed it isn’t as noticeable.
@@willmjt2678 I don’t want you to think any of this is hating on McLaren. I just wanted to point out that they have a massive flaw. I love McLaren and they are Beautiful cars.
@@akafxde7245 They don't have a 'massive flaw' though. It's true that there were some build quality issues with early 720s, but this is far from unique to McLaren (e.g. Porsche 991.1 GT3s needing whole engine replacements, or Ferrari 458s catching fire). The fact is, this whole McLaren reliability issue has been hugely overblown because of some attention-seeking vloggers, the result being people like yourself who've probably never even sat in a McLaren but feel the need to post the kind of nonsense in your original comment. Of course the brand isn't perfect and there will always be those who are unlucky with reliability, but having spoken to numerous McLaren owners, the vast majority were (like me) completely satisfied with their cars.
The on track in-car audio S U C K S !!! 😖 😢 😠 😡
Sexy?? It looks more technical than sexy..
You cannot even justicy the price. Why even do a review on it then? gtfo
and yet people are happy to pay well over sticker for them . . .
What isn't different is the way it looks. All McLaren's look the same, with the exception of the F1 and P1. So no matter how quick or brilliant the handling, its just another McLaren, and they mostly look like a ' generic supercar ', in my opinion.
And a new one is released every week…
That’s the best part, if you have limited releases wealthy collectors and and investors buy them and hold them. Which means aspiring enthusiasts will never see or drive the thing. Mass produced super cars means depreciation and you may be able to afford one without being a millionaire
There isn't another car in the world that looks like a 720/765 because of the headlights. And they are very different from the previous Mclarens from pretty well all other angles too except possibly the back.
Put a 720/765 next to another McLaren and you’re telling us that you can’t see a difference? Time to get your eyes checked!
McLaren fan boys are mad…
learn to drive
So a closed circuit on a dry day and a vacant hill road in sunny Spain are enough to render a verdict? This is an idealized view of the world. To answer the question of what's wrong with it, my opinions: 1. Starting price is (to select two competitors of many) $60K more than a Huracan STO and $100K more than an F8 Tributo. All of these cars have absurdly overpriced options (and currently insane dealer markups) so who knows where you actually wind up, but an F8 is a dream car to most anyone and you're starting out well ahead. 2. It loses half of its value instantly upon delivery. Depreciates like fresh fruit. 3. It's ugly. Opinion obviously, but not a rare one. Also, it's indistinguishable from every other McLaren except to the true nerds. 4. It breaks if you look at it wrong and will continue breaking until you hate it. 5. The dealer network is awful. It's likely an amazing car to drive (when it's working), but everything else about it is fairly terrible. Given that most owners will only rarely drive it as shown in this video, all of that seems relevant.
LTs actually appreciate in value
Perhaps the most absurd stream of nonsense I've read in a long time. Back here in reality, no sane person would compare a 765 to an STO or to an F8. Start with power outputs and the Italians are nowhere compared to the McLaren. Where the Italians do have bigger numbers is in the weight. Primarily because they never bothered to invest in series-production of carbon chassis. Power to weight ratios: the McLaren is around 50% ahead of the Italians; in run of the mill cars, think Subaru BRZ vs a Cayman S. The F8 in particular has laughable styling that, though clearly inspired by a 1980s Lotus, doesn't have the finesse that those cars had - - but at least styling is in the eye of the beholder, unlike the Ferrari's dynamic shortcomings. If you've ridden in or driven an F8 you will know that to compensate for chassis deficiencies, Ferrari have made the coupe hard as a rock (similar to the Huracan Performante) while their idea of a spider is to just cut the roof off and slap in a few reinforcing chunks of pasta . . . . the F8 spider wobbles like a 1970s VW Beetle convertible. As to reliability: you're about 10 years behind on your assessment of McLaren; the first series of 12C had some issues. Personally, I've had a 650 Spider for nearly 6 years and it has been less trouble than the 911 that preceded it and comparable to a Subaru that I had years ago. Others have already commented about how laughable your "depreciation" comments are. Over 6 years my 650 is down around 20%. You sound like a Ferrari dealer or owner tossing his toys out of his pram yet again as his pet product is embarrassed by those darn Brits.
@@rodwilliams7763 McLaren owner and patriotic Brit gets testy and defensive in shock horror.
@@davidnicholson6680 and yet no constructive response from you whereby you show up any supposed errors in my comments. Clueless keyboard warrior much??
@@rodwilliams7763 It's a shame that certain CZcamsrs have been going out of their way to badmouth McLaren at every opportunity, because now the comment section underneath every McLaren video is full of morons like David Nicholson who simply parrot the aforementioned CZcamsrs' idiotic opinions.
Nobody cares Mclaren...
I do, EVO does...seems like you are wrong, do keep trying to be clever though, you'll get there.
Do you want to say is that you are too broke to care about Mclarens?:)
Honestly, the engine sounds awful. Like an angry 4-pot. Just nasty.
Anybody still give a shit about cars?
Then why the hell are you on a car channel?
Yep