A High-End German CZ-75 Carbine! The Norlite USK
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- čas přidán 27. 07. 2024
- @JamesReeves is at IWA 2024 visiting Norlite to see their newest carbine made specifically for the CZ-75. Famous for their USK-G which uses a Glock frame, the new Norlite USK for the CZ-75 is essentially a standalone 9mm carbine that requires only the CZ-75 frame to function, utilizing the CZ-75's fire control group and pistol grip. This unique feature allows it to be classified as a CZ-75 part or accessory rather than a firearm in its own right, which is particularly valuable in regions with strict gun ownership laws, as it enables owners to have both a pistol and a carbine while using only one pistol license.
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![The German Norlite USK-G Glock Carbine Chassis [IWA 2022]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/gvjjqCf3B84/mqdefault.jpg)
He took that thing apart better than the ATF guy can take apart a Glock
My three year old can take apart a Glock better than the ATF guy.
my three legged blind dog can take apart a Glock better than an ATF guy
ATF "Expert"
No ATF person is a real gun person.
That’s not exactly a high bench mark
This is the first carbine conversion kit...chassis, system thing that seems like it isn't a gimmick. I like it.
Mech Tech Systems here in the US has made something similar for Glock, XD/XDm and 1911 handguns for at least 20 years. The Norlite is much nicer, though, as the Mech Tech uppers are basic tube style straight blowback, and don't have many of the features that the Norlite does.
Having the Norlite imported would be nice, but I do agree that something like this would be right in Palmetto State Armory's wheelhouse.
I love the micro roni system.
@@daleford8621 A lot of people do, but it's just not for me.
@@ashfield4313 that's cool. I like other systems too. I always like to see what new stuff comes out.
@@terryfaugno9242Yeah, but you forgot to mention that this one cost 3 times more than the Mech Tech Systems. Besides, I like it more MT for developing hot loads due to the simple, yet very effective recoil system. I had the 1911 one in .460 Rowland and I pass long the 15% above the security loads and only stops when the brand-new brass starts ejects cracked at the first shot (I never use one-shots or worse to develop hot loads). I'm talking 2004 aprox, when the .460 Roland was still a wildcat so, I had to do my loads almost blindly, and the MT CCU was awesome for that. Seeing this one, I don't think that could take the same amount of punish that I put in the MT CCU. And I already mention that you can get 3 MT CCU's for the price of this one. And I don't event talk about the easiness and quickness of assembly. Sorry for my English is not my main language.
Big thumbs up for Frank Satzinger (the guy in the video, CEO of Norlite) who is also vice president of VdB, the one and only German gun rights lobby group!
He put a lot of time and effort into lobbying for better gun laws in Germany since he became vp of VdB in 2023. Thank you Frank!
Gut zu wissen!
Guter Mann! Bin dank Jörg Sprave auf den VDB aufmerksam geworden, und nun Unterstützer. Endlich eine Lobby mit Eiern gegen die Extremisten und Anti-Demokraten wie Nancy Faeser.
I usually think stuff like this is gimmicky, but this actually seems pretty decent
The "carbine" kits are probably gimmicky in the US but they fill quite a specific role outside of it. Most countries don't have a silly definition of a rifle vs handgun and it's often based on caliber and actual intent. Then many countries also limit how many firearms you can have as each firearm would often need to be licenses separately so these kits are quite important.
In the US these are not only mostly a gimmick but one that easily could lead to someone running afoul of the NFA as well as possibly creating problems down the line and poisoning the supply chain as a rifle cannot be converted legally back into a pistol.
@@DOGMA1138 Don't need to tell me twice about daft gun laws, I'm British lol
@@DOGMA1138 If it started life as a pistol, you can convert it to a rifle and back again, no problem, as long as you abide by the required barrel length and overall length.
It's only gimmicky if they make it a gimmick. This looks like a very well made, well engineered conversion system.
Nah...it's still gimmicky
That would be dope for the CZ mafia. Every USPSA guy has a shadow 2, so why not make it a PCC too
If it didn’t cost more than just buying a standalone pcc is would be a major hit here in the states Im sure. As it stands, hard to justify when we (at least most places) don’t have a limit on the number of firearms we can own or need a license for each one, so you might as well just buy a full gun instead.
@@Andrew_182But does a new PCC have a trigger as good as the Shadow 2? The acquired familiarity with the grip and the trigger may be an advantage over a new complete PCC.
@@jeffersondaviszombie2734I mean, you can easily drop a geissele or larue trigger into an AR-9. And I’d have to imagine there are tuning/upgrade options for other platforms too if you’re worried about it. And while familiarity with the grip and trigger is beneficial, it’s also something that can be easily gained with another setup by just using it.
Like I said this thing is cool. And I don’t doubt there are some here who would spring for it over other options (or just to have it in the collection). But it doesn’t make as much sense here as it does in places that have the restrictions this was designed to address when you can buy a complete PCC for much less here.
ETA - while the price is 1500 euro (roughly $1650 converted) over there, *if* it were imported into the US, the price would very likely be even higher to offset the import fees and such. There are A LOT of other options other there for ~$2000 or less.
@@Andrew_182 yeah, you're right. The only way this makes sense is if you're limited in the number of firearms you are allowed to own.
@@Andrew_1821500€ retail price includes VAT, which won't apply to US buyers, so in the end it should be around the $1400 mark (plus import fees).
Still I agree with you, it makes more sense for us shooters in Europe with restrictions on the number of guns -- here in France it's 12 category B guns (semi-auto rifles, handguns and most shotguns) ; category C guns (bolt/lever/pump action rifles) you can have as much as you can afford.
I legitimately appreciate James’s interviews and enthusiasm for firearms as a whole.
I would definitely put that in the collection
You mean "definitely", right?
@@zadtheinhaler thanks
I don’t like the systems that just incorporate your existing pistol slide, frame and internals. This provides a longer barrel integrated with a new “upper receiver” which should improve ballistics and accuracy. Nice, hope they’re successful.
They have been making a Glock version for a couple of years now. They seem to be doing pretty well for themselves.
The system is well received especially in the German market (maybe other European countries, too) where this only counts as an accessory to an existing hand gun. It's not a gun by itself (by German law), so it doesn't fill a slot on your gun permit. And it still counts as a hand gun, not a long gun, so you can use 20-round magazines with no further ado (although admittedly there are stand-alone pccs like the Ruger PC-9 charger that also count as hand guns here)
The is how the psa x57 should work with the rock 57
That's what they're doing...
@DougsDiggers
Yes and no. They’re using components from the rock, but afaik you aren’t going to be able to take the “upper” off the frame of the x57 and put a slide on it and have a rock like you could this with a cz75. You need a cz75 for this to be a functional firearm while the x57 will come as a complete a fully functional stand alone firearm.
@@DougsDiggers
No, the X57 is a distinct firearm that has parts commonality with the 57 Rock, not a conversion upper. The same way the Ruger 5.7 carbine doesn't require owning a Ruger 57.
that's certainly how the x57 upper should LOOK imo
Yeah it really should be. It will heavily depend on price though because the 5.7 Rock isn't particularly expensive. If the x57 is also low priced then it may be pretty easy to justify buying both.
I mailed him in July 2022 and ask for this... now it is here! Thank you!!
If this ever sees the light of day, it may be a better PCC than the Scorpion!
It would be cool if this worked with the P-07 and P-09 as well.
I have one of those for my Glock 17, awesome, lots of fun a 100% child of our gun laws. Pistols are much harder regulated but can have 20 round mags, rifle including SBRs are less regulated but are only allowed 10 rounds. This gives you a rifle like option with 20 rounds and you can buy it for your gun without needing a permit etc.
I have a question though: I thought that everywhere in the EU, all firearm essential components are treated as the complete firearm itself. The essential components being: frames and receivers of all kinds (upper and lower), barrels, bolt carriers and bolts. This matches with the European rules of marking not just one component, but all the essential components of newly manufactured guns. For example, EU-made pistols have to have at least their manufacturer name and serial on the frame, slide and barrel. All this being said, wouldn't this count as an upper receiver and a barrel, both having to be serialized and, thus, treated as essential components, thus needing to follow the same registration and permitting procedure as a complete gun?
Or am I living in a particularly North Korean corner of the EU? Because what I described above is what is the case where I live, so I wouldn't be able to just buy an USK without going to the Police first.
@@jeffersondaviszombie2734It depend, It change state by state. In Italy caliber conversion kits and "normal" chassis are not guns, they are in an ad hoc category with his special paper work. On the other hand, this will probably count as a full gun, because It has both barrel and bolt.
@@M.M.83-U yeah, an (upper) receiver, barrel and bolt... that's a functional gun for all intents and purposes in the EU. I doubt it will be available over-the-counter in many, if any, places in the EU.
@@M.M.83-U In Romania, standard chassis like the Roni are free to buy because they're simply an accessory, but a barrel kit needs to be permitted by the Police pre-sale and then registered on the gun permit. The only difference from an actual gun is that it doesn't count as a separate gun. But that makes little difference because for sporting and hunting purposes there is no gun limit, so the gun count doesn't really matter for most people. The only constraint is that if you have more than 15 guns, you need a security system connected to the Gendarmerie. But there are exceedingly few people going over that limit, so it's more of a theoretical limit for all intents and purposes.
It counts as a conversion kit here in Germany, that means you can go into any gun store and just buy it if you own a matching firearm. Sure, it has to be serialised and to be registered within 2 weeks, but it doesn't count as a firearm and doesn't impact your gun limit.
Further more, a bit oversimplified, firearms longer than 60cm count as rifles and are restricted to 10 round mags, conversion kit are excluded, so you can still use 20 round mags an have a rifle length package.
Finally the one gun that needed a chassis system
The fk brno needs a system like this or some type of chassis system....
Agreed
7,5brno is basically 30m1 but in a 6in pistol instead of a 16 carbine.
So putting 7,5 in a chassis/pcc equals upping the 7,5 to sbr ak performances ...
I fail to see the appeal
@levergatRapha You fail to see the appeal of SBR AK performance in a PCC?
@@lolk4530 1€/$ per round, base gun is 2k min, 1,5k for chassis...
Expensive stuff for what a cz bren sbr could do heh?
@@LaughingMan44Another advantage is that you can share ammunition between pistol and rifle (this way they can also share the same magazines and the more used a cartridge is, in theory the cheaper it becomes). Some time ago I had already thought of a way for this to be viable and in my opinion the diameter of the projectile had to be around 7mm, as it can have a range of projectile weights that can work well for rifle ammunition (with spitzer bullet shape, which would lead to a bullet with better aerodynamics and less projectile mass to reach higher speeds) and for pistols (with a hollow point bullet that has more volume and consequently greater mass, which is ideal for pistol ammunition) and for me the simplest solution would be neck-up 5.7x28 mm for a diameter of approximately 7mm (up to 7.35 mm, which would make it a straight wall cartridge)
This is great, especially for european gun laws where most people are only allowed to have a limited number of registered guns, and this gives you a PCC conversion for your already registered CZ pistol.
But it is different in eu, in simple terms this is a gun in eu gun laws because pressure bearing parts are firearms
@@michall3918it depends on the individual national laws. Broadly speaking this is a system that only works if you add parts of another firearm. Therefore it has the definition of an "swapp system" like an individual ar upper may have and as this dont count into your number of weapons you can own. The idea is that you only have so many weapons simultaniusly so a system that only works when added another gun is not a "full" weapon.
@@uwesca6263 See i didnt know that. There is no such thing where i live.
@@uwesca6263 great addition to my comment, thanks. And yes, that's what i was thinking. I don't know about every european country, but this company and iwa are both in germany, and i know german competitors on international IPSC matches always complain about getting permission for another pistol or rifle, while a new barrel or upper isn't a problem. Must be registered, but doesn't count towards your gun limit.
This reminds me of the carbine conversion kits made by Mechtech for the 1911, glocks, and XDs
Looks great keep the CZ content flowing!
This is a nice bit of kit. Seems high quality and functional.
You are doing a Great Job !
Wow! This one was way nice!
Pretty neat assembly. Very straight forward.
I got a NORLITE for my Glock and I LOVE IT. It literally shoots hole-in-hole at 25 yards. Great for the CZ gun owners that there is a new version coming for them (which is even easier to assemble than the system for the Glock). Great work, Frank!
It is so nice that you are covering our needs in Europe too
In Germany this means you "only" need to License the Gun ( CZ or Glock)itself, but all other Parts are not counting as a different Gun, that is what makes it so special here in Germany.
actually looks nice and functional
Kinda like the ones by mech tech systems made in the USA. Very similar
A lot nicer build quality than Mech Tech, TBH. The inclusion of MLOK vs their proprietary fore end is huge.
Mech Tech does cover more brands - Glock, XD/XDm/1911, and calibers - 9MM, .40S&W, 10MM, .45ACP and .45 Super and .460 Rowland, though I think they only do .460 Rowland uppers for 1911s.
What a funny coincidence...I just bought my first ever Cz Shadow 2 on Friday (their Gold Digger special edition shadow 2)😁
Very cool concept
Wow this goes right on my wish list
That system is brilliant.
I would absolutely love to see what kind of fun things CZ could create for dedicated 30 carbine, within 200 yards it is the most ideal end of the world cartridge, I want more of a market for it.
Wow I rarely see you so giddy that is awesome
Now that looks good !👍
That thing is actually super cool.
Oh, this is beyond great. I can’t wait to get my hands on one. ❤🇺🇸👍🙏
Hopefully we will see these in the USA soon!
Brilliant. Atleast they use a legit bolt, barrel and recoil spring.
Unlike other chassis.
That metallic blue grip looks dope.
That's frigging awesome
I like that he uses a Glock tool to punch the slide stop off the frame, very neat upper, might have to hunt one down for my shadow 2
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This is Awesome!
This is way cooler than the Glock carbines that have those huge unsupported tilting barrels.
Well now I need this
now that's a Carbine Conversion Kit!
Make It Select Fire
Meanwhile the ATF can’t take down a Glock.
I hope it works with a ton of other CZ based pistols. The position of the pin will be crucial. I'm glad they can finally add more pistols after they recuperated some money with the volume via Glocks.
Imo, the mid length option has a decent balance, I found the long one with Glocks to be quite nose heavy. Steel frame CZs are already nose heavy...so the smaller kits might be a good idea.
That’s a whole blow back carbine that just uses a cz grip frame, that’s pretty dope. I would like to see this with a 1913 rail on the end cap
Oooh! This is new! ❤️🤩
Wow, that looks amazing. I can not wait until these come out. September? Just in time for Christmas. All over this like a Fatman on cake.
finally, more attention to my beloved CZ75
Very cool to see a German gun company actually wanting to sell products to civilians and making things specifically to work around the laws for the shooters. Very cool. Cough cough I'm not talking about you HK.
Never knew that in some European countries you are limited to how many firearms your allowed to own on your license.
Don’t tell the Canadianland dictator that, he’ll be like, write that down !
Gun laws across countries varies quite lot. Overally only few thumb of rules apply.
But to my understanding those limited amount of guns are more middle european thing.
Because differences i can only be sure about our own laws. But here in Finland there
is no anykind of limitation how many firearms you can have.
Laws vary very wildly across Europe as a whole. There is really quite a huge gradient
@@bower31 I think i should have specified that i meant countries inside of eu region.
An AK style under folding stock would be slick
Exciting! I've waited this for a Long Time
Thats dope!
I need this in my life.
I haven’t shot my SP01 in about 4 years since picking up the P01. I’d 1000% buy this to get the full size out of the safe. Please bring this to the states!
With an SP01 you can also try a Hera Triarii though not a full upper nor a longer barrel.
Why isn't James asking if items at Iwa will be available in the US?...
Looks like a high quality Mech Tec .
now that's cool!
pretty cool
I really like the idea. I am curious about the operating system. I assume is direct blowback, it would be even cooler if they made it roller delay
YES, more, bring to the USA ASAP
That would probably go well with my cgw pro package sp01
I like it a lot !
That price point 😭😭 I was praying for something closer to the Mechtech dollar wise.
It's been developed for the German market, and German shooters usually want really high grade match-quality because they can only buy so many guns (not many by US standards). As far as I understand it, all the barrel options for this system are Lothar Walther match barrels. These are definitely the best barrels in Germany, probably all of Europe.
@@zee-fr5kwwell thats not true. It aint that expensive. Compared to other sport hobbies.
Quite some germans have the buy once cry once mindset.
And the shadow 2 is a nearly 2k€ gun. So people who own that have the kind of money to spend.
@@uwesca6263 sooo rich germans. most germans i know can't even afford their electricity bill
@@zee-fr5kw than you know very few germans. In contrast i dont know anyone who cannot afford it. And i live in germany and have many friends from all levels of society.
@@uwesca6263 well you are clearly middle class, therefore hang around people similar socio-economic backgrounds.
That is f***n sweet!
This is awesome I have a shadow 2 handgun.
That’s pretty 🔥 and this guy really has he’s shit together explaining it too.
He's a great guy. He became vice president of the best German gun lobby group VdB last year and he already spent countless hours of his busy days lobbying for better gun laws in Germany.
@@maximilianmustermann5763 he seems like a great guy doing purposeful work👌🏼
richtig gut ich glaube das ist worauf viele von uns Sportschützen gewartet haben und da ich mir dieses Jahr eine cz shadow 2 zulegen möchte ist es genau das was ich mir dann als nächstes dazu holen werden
Neat. First attempt I've seen to do what MechTech did 20 years ago. Hopefully it weighs a fair bit less than theirs.
A telescopic stock is what’s needed here imo.
Never really knew I needed a PCC
Tak tohle je velká paráda :)
That is jocking the LC carbine so hard
I really want this
I had a dream a week ago about this perfect and here we are
Can we all agree that the space kraut magic is still alive and well today 🤣❤️
Seriously regretting selling my sp-01. This is the only chassis/pcc-ish thing that's ever interested me
Seems a lot higher quality than most conversions, especially using a different bolt and barrel instead of the regular slide
They also offer three or four different types of barrels for the system, including high-end match-barrels by Lothar Walther. Not to be confused with Carl Walther, his son Lothar also founded a gun company back in the day and they are THE best barrel manufacturers in Germany, probably all of Europe.
If these run reliably I’d absolutely be interesting!!!
❤ I wonder why nobody did it sooner. Shadow 2 is very popular.
Really awesome chassis, but for that price you can buy a new rifle or CZ Skorpion Evo. In Europe, the number of pistols tend to be limited, but less so for rifles, and barrels are controlled parts, so not sure how advantageous it is--I guess for Austrian and German markets, it ll get some traction.
It counts as a conversion kit in Germany, so it is legally an accessory to an existing gun, not a gun by itself. It is a regulated item and needs to be registered, but it doesn't count as a gun so you'll still have i.e. five hand guns, while if you were to buy a seperate pcc like the Ruger PC9 charger, you'd now have six hand guns on your permit and the government office might start bugging you about documentation for matches shot with each of your guns and stuff like that. It's always good to have one less "gun" on your permit, even if it's just so you can buy another one.
Thanks for the clarification. Btw, what is the limit of long guns and handguns one can one in DE? With a hunting license, and without a hunting license? Could you share? Danke! @@maximilianmustermann5763
uuuhhh.... September. I´m sitting here with the cash on my lap 🙂
Oh my God, it's a good gun, this gun is only suitable for me, not anyone else
This is too sick.
I want this. I need a shadow 2, as well haha
Ya, it’s like you are getting a $1500 gun, all it’s missing is a gun.
Would it work with compact 75s like the P-01?
Very interesting, but even if it is quality made in Germany I think the price is a little to high.
It looks oddly nice for a literal box
I cant help but notice I heard nothing about when its coming to the US...
A wow a ruger lc carbine with cz branding
This is just a fancy MechTech, they have been making these for years for other platforms
Would be awesome if it fit a CZ 75 P01
I want one!
Guy on the back show where real big bore are.
IWI compatible and rifle length barrel? CZ/CZ clone is my favorite. I really hope this makes it to the US.
looks like a particular ruger
It sure does. The 5.7