Hey Sister! Why's Your Rosary Look Like That? w/ Sr. Natalia
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- This clip was taken from a recent livestream with Sr. Natalia. Watch the full interview here: • Eastern Catholicism w/...
In this clip, Sr. Natalia talks about the "chotki," an Eastern Catholic prayer rope - usually with 100 or 50 beads. Sister uses her chotki to pray "The Jesus Prayer." Find out why this prayer is so powerful and EASY!
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Honestly I’m an ex-mormon and I recently have been researching the eastern churches (I.e. orthodox and Catholic Churches) I feel like I need to visit one soon 😎I really love the Jesus prayer 🙏
You should certainly get yourself a Chotki prayer rope for the 'Jesus Prayer. I was raised Roman Catholic and moved over to the Byzantine Catholic Church in 2004. You can also create an icon corner at home.
“The Lord says to Peter: ‘I say to you,’ he says, ‘that you are Peter, and upon this rock I will build my Church.’ . . . On him [Peter] he builds the Church, and to him he gives the command to feed the sheep [John 21:17], and although he assigns a like power to all the apostles, yet he founded a single chair [cathedra], and he established by his own authority a source and an intrinsic reason for that unity. Indeed, the others were that also which Peter was [i.e., apostles], but a primacy is given to Peter, whereby it is made clear that there is but one Church and one chair. So too, all [the apostles] are shepherds, and the flock is shown to be one, fed by all the apostles in single-minded accord. If someone does not hold fast to this unity of Peter, can he imagine that he still holds the faith? If he [should] desert the chair of Peter upon whom the Church was built, can he still be confident that he is in the Church?”- St. Cyprian of Carthage (The Unity of the Catholic Church 4; 1st edition [A.D. 251]).
🎉 Jesus is calling you home
Remember,the fundamental: Jesus is a relationship read the new testament ask Jesus to guide you with to find healthy church,with sound doctrine.
@@richlopez5896 Except, Jesus never said that we are to be solely reliant on Peter. He pointed out the infallibility in Peter saying...and whatsoever thou shalt bind on earth shall be bound in heaven: and whatsoever thou shalt loose on earth shall be loosed in heaven. While Peter was the rock, he is not the only one we are to look to. If that is the case, Jesus is saying to us follow this corruptible man? No, we are to lean on his teachings, but we are not to look upon him as infallible. (Lumen Gentium, No. 25) St. Peter was the first Apostle among equals. As was the Pope the first Bishop of the Ecumenical council among equals. Until without the knowledge of the East chose a monarchy. (See the letter by Nicetas, Archbishop of Nicomedia written to the pope of that time.) That is not the way the church was set up in the first century. You can plainly see the change when it happened. The Catholic church added when the Orthodox remained to tradition. I have much love for my catholic brothers and sisters, but many are not aware of the history that changed the church from the days of the Apostles. You can also read the Didache (The teachings of the Apostles) written around the 2nd century. No mention under "Church leaders" for a Supreme Bishop, but a plurality of bishops and deacons worthy of the Lord.
I'm an ex-Mormon and the Eastern Orthodox church is the best thing that ever happened to me.
3:55 really hit me. I was afraid to pray to God because I didn't think I was good enough. I knew I was living contrary to God, so how could I possibly dare speak to him. I now know that is backwards but I did struggle with that for a time
That can be pride, you know we sometimes thing our own sin is greater than His mercy, Jesus is most patient and merciful, He will wait your whole lifetime for your return to Him. But remember, once you return to Him, you must strive to be always faithful to Him, not only in the big things but also in the littlest of things. It's the little things that can make you great in God eyes, He sees all. Love God with all your strength!
That is how I feel.
Lord Jesus Christ, son of the Living God. Have mercy on me, a sinner.
I learned that beautiful prayer from Father Mark Goring 🙏❤
Same. 😊
Same!!! 🙏
Only Allah will show mercy to u no human🇲🇾🤣🤲💖
Son of Maryam🇲🇾🇵🇸💥
You will stand before Jesus Christ at the end @@sannyahmed359
I just finished praying chotky. Beautiful prayer. Ісусе, Ісусе Сину Божий помилуй нас.
i'm from Mecca big love and respect to you ,sister❤❤❤
Mecca as in Saudi Arabia
I discovered Sister, now Mother Natalia today and was delighted to see more and more videos come into my algorithm.
Bless both of you for these videos.
Thank you mother for being so open and sharing.
I am 52 and in the UK. It is wonderful to see your journey in the US.
“We try to perfect ourselves”
Great lesson for everyone of Gods omnipotence.
Well said! I’m publishing a weekly CZcams video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
That is an amazing prayer 🙏
How beautiful! ❤️
I like your show. I liked Sister Natalia. Thank you 😊
Wow. I really needed that. Thank God for your work.
Nice how he just threw it across the table👍🏽👍🏽
Sr. Natalia is one of my favourite guests!
Best explanation for Non-Orthodox, thank you Sister. ♥️🙏💞🕊️
That’s beautiful!
Literally saw the same exact chotki in a church store in Ukraine last week before I left. I was looking for a chotki but thought what I saw was a knotted rosary, but it seems I was wrong. I'll get it next year.
Your description of the prayer is marvellous.
I also like to do it with my breathe.
I have a tiny one (wrist size) that I can use in many situations where I prefer either more discretion, or a longer rope is cumbersome.
Benedictine Abbey in Tyniec in Poland they promote the Jesus prayer together with the dessert Fathers and the apophthegmates. These shorts anegdotes are just precious.
As a Pole living in the east of the country, I am pleased to see that spirituality both from the perspective of John Paul II, his way of evangelizing young people as well as other forms of spirituality with which I had contact in my life (like the one from this clip) are also an inspiration for you in the USA . Cool that we are truly Catholic Church - universal or widespread.
Ale bzdura haniebna.
@@erykpatrykchudy5675 ?
This hit me so hard..😭
Looks pretty the same with mine📿 congratulations for your presence ❤ΚΥΡΙΕ ΙΗΣΟΥ ΧΡΙΣΤΕ ΕΛΕΗΣΟΝ ΜΕ
I discovered the eastern Catholic church while on pilgrimage in Lourdes years ago. There is a beautiful little Ukrainian Catholic church outside the hustle and bustle of the pilgrim area. I attended the liturgy and was overwhelmed by the beauty and solemnity of the liturgy. A very friendly priest told me all I could at that time understand. I've been to the nearest Byzantine Catholic church to where I live (50 miles) a few times but so wish there was a Byzantine or other eastern Catholic church nearer to me as I would probably attend there as often as my Latin rite parish. It's difficult explaining why the Byzantine liturgy and spirituality attracts me so much.
The Jesus prayer I have tried to introduce to my western friends not to replace the Rosary but as well as.
This is actually so funny!!
I tought myself a few years ago how to make a chotki (my Playlist I made for that on CZcams is from 2019) and I also watched the tutorial from the christ the bridegroom monastary channel!! It was after visiting Armenia where Orthodoxy is quite common.
Now I'm watching this episodes and after getting recomended the channel from the monastary I saw the connection! This is really interesting and funny to me :D
But I also need to admit, there are not a lot of (video)sources on how to make a chotki, especially because it is named and spelled in a lot of different ways, and I needed a lot of videos to figure it out completely.
@Haskel I made a Playlist, I hope you can see it! czcams.com/play/PLIJy4O_esQF4LBLAH0XaUwV2iM1x5CCfm.html
Im a Secular Franciscan, Western Rite of course - but NOTHING on earth can stop me using a Chotki and the Jesus Prayer. When everything in my secular life gets too heavy, I may drop out my regular prayer habits (like the full Divine Office .etc) temporarily and just resume the Chotki/Jesus Prayer alone. This I find "empties" my mind and better makes my heart protected and open. Im never going to resume praying the Office or the Rosary, filling my head with lots of powerful imagery, while Im having lots of "viceful and/or sinful" imagery clogging my works. It would be a huge disservice and a "forceful" vain nature in prayer. The Jesus Prayer offers me the emptying of all the stimulation, and just the pure focus on the Holy Name itself and the Mystery of God. Ive always believed that when these situations occur, with an excess of the world becoming too heavy, the utmost Spiritual Warfare is needed - and for me, the Chotki and Jesus Prayer is my daily, and often my sole, weapon of choice in God's name.
This is completely off topic, but Sister Natalia has such a youthful glow to her skin ☺️.
Thanks
My fundamental prayer.
She is my favorite religious.
I highly recommend "The Way of the Pilgrim"
Almost done. It's changing me deeply. One of the greatest book I have read in my life if not the best one so far
Psalm 62:1 For God alone my soul waits in silence.
Praying with breathing: 03:03
She’s literally one of my favorite human beings ever
I've heard this multiple times that we should actually be praying the rosary in rhythm with our breath. Except no one really shows how to do that. I wonder if its more personal to the person. Like she said she will breath in some sentences and then breath out others. Some people will state a line then breath and state the next line. I'll have to play around with this. But like she said breath work is actually a spiritual practice and even with your own rhythm its more powerful than you've prayed before.
I breathe in during "Ave Maria, gratia plena, Dominus tecum, benedicta tu in mulieribus, et benedictus fructus ventris tui, Jesus." And breathe out during "Sancta Maria, mater Dei ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen" Without pronouncing any of it, of course. The beauty of this rythm lies mainly in the fact, that the breath builds up until it reaches the name of Jesus and then there's a short resting point to (if necessary) direct the focus back on the mystery.
Pater Nostar Beads are very similar.
I'm glad Sister said, "It can have more words than this."
I often form my Jesus prayer, as "Lord Jesus Christ, Son of the Living God [rather than just 'Son of God.'] have mercy on me, a sinner?"
I think this is because of verses like, Matthew 16:16... ", the Son of the living God."
Anybody else say it this way?
Using the prayer all day even at work can be challenging with so many words. Its can be further simplified "Lord Jesus Christ" on every inhale "have mercy on me" on ever exhale. This works with the heart beat.
i agree with @Jean-Paul de Beer , the purpose is the simplicity. it should be able to be used in a similar way to how buddhists and hindus use their mantras. but when at home praying more purposefully i do add a "dear" to the beginning, and use an "upon" instead of "on"
@@Ian-nl9yd As we pray the Jesus prayer. God builds up Grace in the heart. Slowly purifies it. It also helps with watchfulness. Sinful thoughts of judgement, self-righteousness, pride and lust pollute the heart. Clouding our vision of God. The Jesus prayer will helps to fight against the thoughts.
Interesting! I usually say
"Lord Jesus Christ, Son and Word of God, have mercy on me, a sinner"
It’s a cross between a mala and a rosary. I made me one when I was 8 but I was laughed at for having this but I made this because I had a dream of making it. I never knew it was a real thing.
Gospodi Isusie Christje synje Bozhi pomiluj ma grjesnavo☦️
♥️
Also you breath is link to the spirit of God there are shorter versions and Greek versions. Breathing in his mercy and breathing out our sinfulness I like. I am a former Methodist and went Byzantine going to Poland a city with many Ukrainian Migrant from ww2 and now Russian war with Byzantine Catholic churches and shall attend with my new wife and our sons and teach this prayer first and how to pray and the our father. Thanks for the information.
Can a chotki/prayer rope be made with beads instead of tying the knot? cause it's too hard to tie.
Yes it can.. you can even use a rosary to do the Jesus prayer. On each Hail Mary say the Jesus prayer and the Our father every 10
It was called "chotki" from ancient Russian word, which could mean "count", "read" or "worship". These word in Russian sound very simular.
I am Catholic and I pray the Rosary and Divine Mercy with my Rosary beads. Apart from this, sometimes during the day I pray the Jesus prayer without using a prayer rope, just with my mouth or through my head. What I'm wondering is this: Many orthodox priests or monks whose videos I watch on CZcams say that they perform this prayer using chotki/komboskini and that they have multiple prayer ropes ranging from 33 to 300 beads. At the same time, they say that we should pray this prayer continuously throughout the day, from morning to night (referring to the verse "pray without ceasing" in the Bible). If I'm going to do this at any time during the day, then I probably don't need a certain number of prayer rope. But I'm curious about your experiences. Is it more efficient to pray this prayer a certain number of times a day with a prayer rope, or whenever I can do it without using any rope? How do you do it and which one do you get more efficiency from?
Why did Mr Fradd just throw her prayer rope with such disrespect? I’m sure he wouldn’t have thrown a rosary across a table like that 🤔
The Way of The Pilgrim
Hey Matt, what happened to sips with aquinas? Why are you posting the clips here now?
It seems he and his guests do encompass aquinas
Interesting.
Prayer Ropes, I would like to get one of those. They say you need to take deep breaths as you pray with them.
@Hyperborean Futurism the deep breaths help me though. But yeah, optional
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Well said! I’m publishing a weekly CZcams video on episodes from the life of Don Bosco, entitled ST JOHN BOSCO by JOE ZAMMIT. In this series I’m narrating events and miracles from the splendid life of Don Bosco. St John Bosco used to perform a miracle almost every day, through the intercession of Mary Help of Christians. From the lives of saints we can learn how to love God more and draw closer to him. Thank you.
Just recently heard about how good prayer is and how to pray it from Jesuit priest
I would like to add that praying this prayer without guidance is actually more dangerous than just for health issues. The danger comes from demons so you really need a guidance.
Also there is a risk in saying the prayer without realizing. If you get used to this it can happen that you won't be able to fo it otherwise, I mean with focus. Saying without realizing is no a goal. By contrary, we have to be able to focus more and more on the prayer.
" Why's Your Rosary Look Like That?"
Nice throw bro 😎🤣
So close to the sinners but so far away!
The Jesus Prayer:
1. Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Have Mercy on me, a sinner; OR
2. Lord Jesus Christ, Have Mercy on me; OR
3. Jesus Christ, Have Mercy; OR
4. Jesus, Mercy; OR
5. Jesus.
4 and 5 doesnt seem correct
"It gets rid of that self reliance(catches herself)............no wait on 2nd thought, it doesn't get rid of that self reliance; it works on the self reliance"
Matt smiling :-) because she avoided having to go to confession again for fibbing.
Does she not use the sacrament of confession?
What kind of a message is that? Avoiding confession...fibbing...? Shame on her.
@@caroline-9672 I'm sure she does I was just thought it was funny that she corrected herself and Matt smiled afterwards.
@@plum332 You'll have to watch the whole video to see what part I was talking about. I'm sure that she goes to confession.
@@capecodder04 I don't think that was funny. There was no mention of confession.
Didn’t liquid death have a witch curse all their water? Not a product I’d expect to see on this channel tbh :/.
Yep, I thought the same thing. I can only assume they didn't know. I hope Matt knows about that now.
1:14 I learned this prayer from a wise farmer
Why on earth did you toss it back to her ??
You should have edited this out because it shows a lack of respect, or, if you wanted to leave it in, you should have apologised for it.
He clearly didn't mean offense, and she didn't take any. Why are you upset about it?
@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 It was incredibly rude. You can even see it in her face (at 0:38 ) how surprised she was that he threw it away like that.
@@elf-lordsfriarofthemeadowl2039 A moment after he tossed it back, Sr Natalia said 'You just tossed it across the table'. I think was meant to be not just an observation - why on earth would she make such an observation. So it was not an observation; it was meant to be a mild rebuke. But still Matt did not apologise.
I am quite sure that Matt did not intend to be offensive, but his action here was, objectively speaking, offensive.
Like Matt, I am Australian, and what might be called a typically casual Australian, so all of us (Australians) need to remind ourselves to shave off the blunter
corners of our nature when such is necessary. And it was necessary when giving this object back to Sr Natalia.
But how do I order one? It doesn’t appear on the website
I bought my chotkis on Etsy.
@@NMemone it was on reference to the fact that she said they make them at the monastery. I have a Chotki but I want one from Christ the Bridegroom monastery
@TheMCNanno Ah sorry. I should have realized that. Since it's still not on the website I'd guess you have to go there to get one. I have to thank you for asking this question even though my answer was totally unhelpful because this led to me realizing I'm only a 5+ hour drive from the monastery, so now I am planning a visit myself.
@@NMemone yeah I have to plan on going at some point; this video made me realise when it came out that I’m only a 35 minute drive from the monastery
Is Pints orthodoxy?
Nope, Matt Fradd is an Eastern Catholic, but he knows about the Roman Rite really well and is a decent catechist.
I have a different type of rosary prayer that people make fun of
I have to necklaces i have mother Mary and a cross first I pray to the Lord and then pray to mother Mary
It usually goes like this
(Lord's prayer) while I'm holding the cross up to my head)oh Lord forgive thy i sin X3 if i shall die tonight make sure I'm getting to heaven X2 amen and amen Hallelujah
(Mother Marys prayer) while I'm holding the mother Mary necklace up to my head)oh mother thank you thy you birthed Jesus Christ our savior X3 oh thank you saint X2
Yikes, why did you throw that prayer rope?
is that a roman catholic rosary?
No it’s a fake rosary
@@turnmeondeadman4221 Why fake
Rosary is a different set of prayers.
Четки
The Pilgrim
Do Eastern rite Catholics pray the Rosary?
Yes, they do. The Syro-Malabar and the Syro-Malankara Catholics of India pray the rosary very often, sometimes, more than Latin Catholics actually.
Many do, but not all, and it's not an "official" devotion in many of the Eastern churches the way it is in the West.
that picture in the backround of the nun is creepy.
It’s a picture of Saint Mary of the Cross MacKillop (Australia’s first canonised Saint)
And she is drinking a drink called liquid death 🙏🏻🙏🏻🙏🏻.
She has that, "don't f+ck with me", look on her face.
Not appropriate comment.
LOL
I'm a Krishna devotee, we also pray on beads. I love to hear from anyone that loves God. I may try some of these breathing techniques with my chanting. Thanks
I found the complexity of the rosary to be off-putting. I prefer using the Jesus Prayer with a prayer rope (komboskini in Greek) as it is far simpler and more direct.
i do both as im non-denominational, but i agree that praying the rosary is complicated. i can never remember the apostles creed. it does seem that the structure of praying the rosary is a bit flexible however, as ive seen many times people adapting it to their spiritual needs. that doesnt even get started on the mysteries tho. i find i really concetrate mostly on the sorrowful mysteries in the spirit of contrition for Jesus' sacrifice for our sins. its worth it, but it is a lot and i do appreciate the beautiful simplicity of praying the knots of an orthodox rope.
I'm not sure u should have to explain a prayer... kind of ruins the idea of it when you start getting all technical about breathing techniques, no?
I know the prayer rope is simply a tool and not a religious relic or holy in any way But I can’t believe you tossed it across the table. Really …. !
BASED BYZANTINE BLING
I will just like to drop this here.
For those who are seeking Traditional Catholicism, the Eastern Catholic Church is not traditional and they are as modern as the Western Church regardless if their Mass didn’t change much.
Now why do I say this? I say this because if you look at the life of the Eastern Catholic life before Vatican II, they prayed the Rosary as well as the Western Church. Mary didn’t appear in Fatima for only Western Catholics. So to downplay the necessity of the Rosary or put it on the same level as the Jesus Prayer isn’t what Eastern Catholics did before Vatican II. One can only do this by disregarding almost all the apparitions of the Blessed Virgin Mary. Just check out the Marian apparition in Hrushiv Ukraine where Mary said to supposedly Eastern Catholics in 1987; “Say the Rosary. It is the weapon against Satan. He fears the Rosary. Recite the Rosary at any gathering of people”
Mary said at every apparition at Fatima, “Pray the Rosary everyday”. So for Catholics to ignore this for the sake of obsessing keeping their Eastern Traditions is by far imprudent.
I’ve been seriously considering the Eastern Catholic Church but seeing everyday how poor their devotion to Mary is, is just discouraging.
The Eastern Catholic Church is as Novus Ordo as the West.
There are Traditional Eastern Catholics who are Traditional, and attached to the SSPX, but they are in Ukraine and it isn’t seeming like they are trying to move to another country anytime soon. They are the Priestly Society of St. Josephat.
Excellent vide,what a wonderful woman. Crappy outro TEACHER😉
3:57 ?? Little confused "His sinfulness" ??
Paternoster beads > rosary
why did you throw the rosary?disrespect!
1. Not a rosary.
2. Chotkis are not God.
The true rosary has a crucifix.
This guy is so rude. Not even my 9 year old toss' thing back to me they he did with her chotikle. One of his videos he used "shut up " sister Natalie said those are your words not mine. He needs to talk and act in an professional manner
It seems like a Muslim beads
Also exactly same counts 33 and 100 (muslim's ones are 33 and 99).
Why dont just fully convert to Orthodoxy its only true church
HIS Name is LORD YESHUA, or ia that not important?
I am called mum, mom, mama, mana, Mrs T, Sharon, Mrs Thompson, my friend, sister, nan, nana, gran, Tia, malai, kolega, Saron, plus sometimes Karen, and a couple of others.
Jesus knows who I am and He knows I am speaking to the Son of God.
@@sharonthompson8061 Thank you for your answer. You are so right.
Passive aggressive much???
Monks and nuns 😒 I prefer wim hof he at least made it to the mount everest with his breathing techniques.
That’s all Orthodox way.. idk why Catholic obsessed to Orthodox Traditions n say we are Heresy 😂😂.. Roman Catholic is dying 😂.. Catholic like Smartphones.. updated every day
nice ben wa balls praying repetitively instead most of everything you do is a prayer
She's not a follower of the criminal called Muhammad
You might as well be doing YOGA.
By whose standard?
She is a completely orthodox Byzantine Catholic nun. This kind of prayer is a fundamental part of Byzantine spirituality and is accepted by the Church.
There is nothing heretical about her. I noticed you couldn't even name anything wrong.
@@richlopez5896 You're right. I haven't seen her publicly commit a heresy. But, my point is, why doesn't she promote the Holy Rosary more than her rope. Our Holy Mother said the rosary IS the weapon against Satan. Think about it. Let that set in.
@@plum332 dude… The rosary is absolutely important I’m fully on board but other devotional are important as well. I think the Jesus prayer and the prayer rope is very very important and it gets you into the habit of praying while you at breathing. And no yoga is demonic nothing compared to the prayer rope delete your comment
This ain't no nun.....just a show off.....
Take your hateful comments elsewhere
This is why meekness and humility are most important, we should continually beg God for this, and when you have it, it's precious and beautiful. Oh Jesus, meek and humble of heart, make our hearts like unto Thine.
Nice throw bro 😎🤣