@danielsustaita9522 St Makarios says that in the heart there are many wonders but also dragons. Develing into the prayer of the heart without a guide can cause delusion and prelest. The practitioners of the Jesus prayer say to be weary of being misguided, and I trust them more than my own intuition
Catholic here; I love the Jesus Prayer and use it all the time (or try to). Anytime I think something I shouldn't, any time I feel or touch my scapular (catholic devotion "necklace"), or just any time I think about it randomly I pray one...or five.
@@Buddhamind11 the Jesus prayer is thousands of years old and very much Christian. Devotion to a certain thing isn't Hindi either, especially non Hindi entities.
Almost all religions use prayer beads of some sort. The mala is something different. Everyone knows beads help focus for prayer and meditation, not just Hindus and Buddhists, or Christians.
My family is German-Catholic on one side, Irish-Catholic on the other. My parents were raised Catholic and converted to Protestant (non-denominational) when I was small. I have a degree in theology and spent many years as a Restoration Church pastor. Recently I had the idea to take apart one of my grandmothers old rosary sets and restring it into a different pattern and then chose for myself scriptures to recite and then each bead represents a topic of prayer (instead of a prayer to recite, I guess my Restoration roots showing through) for each part of my new prayer beads… i loved the image of taking an icon of where my family came from and renewing it to represent my own journey of faith… I thought I was being clever, and I loved they way it helped me to focus on praying and directing my mind upward… then I discovered that “Protestant prayer beads” are actually a thing, so much so that there are more versions than you can list and their heritage and tradition go back centuries… beads, ropes, knots, different prayers… they’re nothing special, just string and beads, but it’s so much more beautiful than I imagined a string of beads could be… when you come to your faith as a convert or in a church tradition that avoids dogma or “religiosity” you miss out on so much of the deep cultural and liturgical history of Christianity through the centuries… I’m thankful God has allowed me to reach back to His people before me and pull some of that richness into my life. Thank you for these videos, even with degrees on my wall I really appreciate the insight into other areas of Christianity beyond my own. Grace and Peace friend.
I learned about the Jesus Prayer on the side as I was being catechized into the Catholic Church, & recenty got myself a Chotki to add it to my prayer life more often!
Thanks for this informative video. My Godfather gave me a prayer rope when I was chrismated into the Orthodox church and I have been using it to enrich my prayer life ever since!! May God continue to bless you and your channel and grant you both many years!!
Another great one. I love the continued direction to a local Orthodox priest/parish for questions and more info. Orthodoxy is an incarnate faith lived out in living, breathing community. Like online dating, you can certainly meet someone online, but for a real relationship, with all that entails, the internet will eventually have to step aside.
Your videos are spot on! I love the entire atmosphere of your setup and your demeanour. Your points are incredibly concise and have interesting details that Orthodox Christians may not know. I did not know that there are 7 crosses that go into a single bead and then form the 3 crosses of the holy trinity. Knowing that makes my prayer ropes that much more beautiful to me.
I'm impressed with how aesthetically pleasing you edit your videos! I have a question for you: Do you have any ancient sources that confirm that St. Anthony or St. Pachomius invented the prayer rope? I've searched for a long time for some specific texts, but haven't found any....
You said that we as Orthodox Christians do not say the rosary, however there are several jurisdictions who’ve had bishops state the rosary is canonical and edifying for the Orthodox to pray 📿
im wondering this too... im Tewahedo orthodox (oriental) but baptized n confirmed In eastern orthodox and I was raised in Catholic Church. lol. I loved praying the rosary and its all the same prayers... I wonder if its okay since its same prayers
The rosary is actually used by many Orthodox who practice the Western Rite. The basic format for the rosary doesn’t include any post-schism heresy. In recovering the Western Rite many post-schism devotions are approved so long as they are not heretical and can conceivably come about in the west were the schism never to have happened. Same with Eucharistic Adoration and devotions to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
@@nicgundy prayer rule of the Theotokos is pretty similar to the rosary but instead of meditating on various aspects of Christ’s life you’re interceding for various groups of people. Also there’s more decades than the rosary. It’s commonly attributed to St Seraphim of Sarov but the sources for that aren’t really strong, but he is said to be a big supporter of it nonetheless.
Is there a specific place you would suggest getting a prayer rope? Specifically online. I live in the boonies and closest orthodox church to me is almost a 2 hour drive.
Would still recommend getting in touch with that church even if via phone call to the priest. Just to open communication about all the Orthodox things, and to find out about prayer ropes. If they don't have someone there making them they'll find another option I'm sure. God bless!
I have a small 50 count. It fits on my wrist but im cautious wearing it. Usually only alone when im praying or in thought. I know its ok to wear a cross yes? Is it the same for the small prayer ropes?
I think it’s a cool practice because once again your engaging your senses in the prayers that you are doing. The Orthodox seem to have incorporated all the human senses so well into worship and spiritual practice..🙏🏽
Glad that you directed people to speak with a priest before starting. Wise counsel.
Oh yes. It's quite an important step!
Why is it important? I’m Roman Catholic btw just curious
@danielsustaita9522 St Makarios says that in the heart there are many wonders but also dragons. Develing into the prayer of the heart without a guide can cause delusion and prelest. The practitioners of the Jesus prayer say to be weary of being misguided, and I trust them more than my own intuition
Catholic here; I love the Jesus Prayer and use it all the time (or try to). Anytime I think something I shouldn't, any time I feel or touch my scapular (catholic devotion "necklace"), or just any time I think about it randomly I pray one...or five.
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This concept is Hindu based. Not Christian
@@Buddhamind11 the Jesus prayer is thousands of years old and very much Christian. Devotion to a certain thing isn't Hindi either, especially non Hindi entities.
Almost all religions use prayer beads of some sort. The mala is something different. Everyone knows beads help focus for prayer and meditation, not just Hindus and Buddhists, or Christians.
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My family is German-Catholic on one side, Irish-Catholic on the other. My parents were raised Catholic and converted to Protestant (non-denominational) when I was small. I have a degree in theology and spent many years as a Restoration Church pastor. Recently I had the idea to take apart one of my grandmothers old rosary sets and restring it into a different pattern and then chose for myself scriptures to recite and then each bead represents a topic of prayer (instead of a prayer to recite, I guess my Restoration roots showing through) for each part of my new prayer beads… i loved the image of taking an icon of where my family came from and renewing it to represent my own journey of faith… I thought I was being clever, and I loved they way it helped me to focus on praying and directing my mind upward… then I discovered that “Protestant prayer beads” are actually a thing, so much so that there are more versions than you can list and their heritage and tradition go back centuries… beads, ropes, knots, different prayers… they’re nothing special, just string and beads, but it’s so much more beautiful than I imagined a string of beads could be… when you come to your faith as a convert or in a church tradition that avoids dogma or “religiosity” you miss out on so much of the deep cultural and liturgical history of Christianity through the centuries… I’m thankful God has allowed me to reach back to His people before me and pull some of that richness into my life.
Thank you for these videos, even with degrees on my wall I really appreciate the insight into other areas of Christianity beyond my own. Grace and Peace friend.
I learned about the Jesus Prayer on the side as I was being catechized into the Catholic Church, & recenty got myself a Chotki to add it to my prayer life more often!
Thanks for this informative video. My Godfather gave me a prayer rope when I was chrismated into the Orthodox church and I have been using it to enrich my prayer life ever since!! May God continue to bless you and your channel and grant you both many years!!
Such helpful information for this novice to the Orthodox Christian faith.
Thank you all.
Another great one. I love the continued direction to a local Orthodox priest/parish for questions and more info. Orthodoxy is an incarnate faith lived out in living, breathing community. Like online dating, you can certainly meet someone online, but for a real relationship, with all that entails, the internet will eventually have to step aside.
Your videos are spot on! I love the entire atmosphere of your setup and your demeanour. Your points are incredibly concise and have interesting details that Orthodox Christians may not know. I did not know that there are 7 crosses that go into a single bead and then form the 3 crosses of the holy trinity. Knowing that makes my prayer ropes that much more beautiful to me.
God bless you and your family. Thank you for these videos.
I’m RC but absolutely love The Jesus Prayer.
Very well done video. Thank you.
Great video. Love this!! ☦
Awww, that's so nice. I didn't know that bead means prayer❤ very nice topic, thank you for this video. God bless you both
Thanks for watching, Mari!
I'm impressed with how aesthetically pleasing you edit your videos! I have a question for you: Do you have any ancient sources that confirm that St. Anthony or St. Pachomius invented the prayer rope? I've searched for a long time for some specific texts, but haven't found any....
Thank you so much for sharing! xo
Great info
You said that we as Orthodox Christians do not say the rosary, however there are several jurisdictions who’ve had bishops state the rosary is canonical and edifying for the Orthodox to pray 📿
im wondering this too... im Tewahedo orthodox (oriental) but baptized n confirmed In eastern orthodox and I was raised in Catholic Church. lol. I loved praying the rosary and its all the same prayers... I wonder if its okay since its same prayers
@@clipaqua8848 try Rule of Theotokos, it's Eastern Orthodox devotion and quite similar to rosary since it repeat 15x10 Hail Mary(s).
thank you friend, this was very nice ^-^
You can also visit a Byzantine or eastern Catholic Church if you are in communion with Rome
Wow so this tradition is at least 1700 years old then..😳😲
as a greek that was very informative
Amazing video.
The rosary is actually used by many Orthodox who practice the Western Rite. The basic format for the rosary doesn’t include any post-schism heresy. In recovering the Western Rite many post-schism devotions are approved so long as they are not heretical and can conceivably come about in the west were the schism never to have happened. Same with Eucharistic Adoration and devotions to the Sacred Heart of Jesus.
I even learned recently there's a similar Eastern devotion that's about older called The Prayer Rule of the Theotokos
@@nicgundy prayer rule of the Theotokos is pretty similar to the rosary but instead of meditating on various aspects of Christ’s life you’re interceding for various groups of people. Also there’s more decades than the rosary. It’s commonly attributed to St Seraphim of Sarov but the sources for that aren’t really strong, but he is said to be a big supporter of it nonetheless.
@@randy9680 sweet!
You’re correct except for that last sentence that’s not accepted in Orthodoxy.
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Is there a specific place you would suggest getting a prayer rope? Specifically online. I live in the boonies and closest orthodox church to me is almost a 2 hour drive.
Would still recommend getting in touch with that church even if via phone call to the priest. Just to open communication about all the Orthodox things, and to find out about prayer ropes. If they don't have someone there making them they'll find another option I'm sure. God bless!
Ancient faith store online
Etsy online. I know there is an orthodox nun that makes them on there.
There is some nice ones on Etsy..
Can i use the rosary as a prayers rope?
Where did you get your prayer rope?
Interesting. In German we still use the word "beten", which means "to pray".
Bead and beten being related is odd
I have a small 50 count. It fits on my wrist but im cautious wearing it. Usually only alone when im praying or in thought. I know its ok to wear a cross yes? Is it the same for the small prayer ropes?
Chat with your priest, but generally a lot of Orthodox wear prayer ropes on their wrists
@@Patristix awesome! Thank you!
I don't think it's necessary but I think it helps. Or am I wrong?
Yes, it's not required but a help when you need it
I think it’s a cool practice because once again your engaging your senses in the prayers that you are doing. The Orthodox seem to have incorporated all the human senses so well into worship and spiritual practice..🙏🏽
So... Christian prayer prayer! 😅
I mean Hinduism did this first. Just so everyone knows