Moneyball Scenes Compared to TV Broadcast

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  • čas přidán 18. 05. 2021
  • Direct comparison between the TV broadcast and the film Moneyball. May be confusing at parts because the movie did a little creative license when depicting the 4th and 8th innings... showing some things out of order... others incorrectly.
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  • @BaseballsNotDead
    @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +290

    Want to clarify one thing on the video. Based on the comments I'm getting the feeling that a lot of people think I'm nit-picking or criticizing the movie. Not my intention... I think the movie is excellent and because it's a movie, a lot of the "inaccuracies" or decisions made by the director/editor are for ease of narrative, flow of the scenes, and overall making the movie work for general audiences. I just find some of the differences interesting and sheds some light into the filming process and decision making in the editing room.
    For instance, things being out of order in the movie versus the real game... I firmly believe they filmed them in order, but in editing it didn't flow as well as what they did in the final cut. If it makes the movie better dramatically and from a flow standpoint, then for the movie's sake that is a good decision.
    Some people may disagree, but I find enjoyment in pointing out "errors" or "inconsistencies" in some of my favorite movies, mostly because it sheds light into the filmmaking process and why certain decisions are made, and deepens my appreciation of the movie. In other words, "nit-picking" a movie to death for me is not a "Movie Sins" wag of the finger, but instead done out of an appreciation and understanding of the movie.
    That said, the two most important things in the game (Mike Sweeney's HR and Hatteberg's HR) were absolutely spot on. All of the other things pointed out were minor and really inconsequential to the overall plot and themes of the movie.

    • @robynharris7179
      @robynharris7179 Před 2 lety +22

      Sometimes when you are filming, you just never get a shot to come out the way you picture it in your mind. So, you may need to elevate other shots a resequence to make the narrative flow together. That’s the difference between filming a documentary and making a drama. It is more important to get the emotional truth of the movie correct, than the factual, chronological order.

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +12

      @@robynharris7179 Well said.

    • @stephenmoore2233
      @stephenmoore2233 Před 2 lety +8

      I didn't get the feeling you were trashing the movie at all. It's interesting to analyze the differences in real life events vs the films that depict them. Great job with the video, mate. I dig your content.

    • @WalterLiddy
      @WalterLiddy Před 2 lety +4

      I took this for granted. Obviously I don't care how accurate the movie was, I'm watching out of curiosity, and assumed you made the video in the same spirit. Makes me wonder why those people even clicked on the video. Some people are just looking for something to complain about.

    • @acp865
      @acp865 Před rokem

      You don’t have to explain yourself to the whiners in the comments. Just do what you do, and forget about those pussies.

  • @michaelforbes7143
    @michaelforbes7143 Před 2 lety +1522

    The director was definitely a huge Raul Ibanez fan.

    • @matrixphijr
      @matrixphijr Před 2 lety +261

      "Now pinch-running for Raúl Ibañez at third, Raúl Ibañez. And Raúl Ibañez steps to the plate. Wait, we're going to have a pinch-hitter here. And it'll be Raúl Ibañez."

    • @troyjenkins1379
      @troyjenkins1379 Před 2 lety +105

      who isn’t a huge Raul Ibanez fan tbh

    • @fireinthenight9028
      @fireinthenight9028 Před 2 lety +60

      I'm just glad the home plate umpire wasn't Raul Ibanez.

    • @ElusiveClarity
      @ElusiveClarity Před 2 lety +20

      @@fireinthenight9028 Or WAS HE

    • @fireinthenight9028
      @fireinthenight9028 Před 2 lety +12

      @@ElusiveClarity bro, now you f terrifying me.
      soon I go to bed, I'm scared he might be already there.

  • @matrixphijr
    @matrixphijr Před 2 lety +799

    I'm not even an As fan or anything, but the way the movie crafted the ending of that game just gives me chills.

    • @coffey1718
      @coffey1718 Před 2 lety +16

      I'm not a baseball fan and loved that movie!

    • @Connorosul0907
      @Connorosul0907 Před 2 lety +4

      Same omg

    • @andrewsebree4333
      @andrewsebree4333 Před 2 lety +11

      I remember watching this game as a Royals fan. I'm 27 now so I was only 8 so watching this game I was just excited that we came all the way back and disappointed we lost. It honestly wasn't until I saw this movie that I realized I literally watched history. And didn't think anything of it other than we lost a crazy game

    • @leonidas5363
      @leonidas5363 Před 2 lety

      I hate the ending to that movie

    • @christianramirez9303
      @christianramirez9303 Před 2 lety +3

      @@leonidas5363 Reality is often disappointing.

  • @bestnottoknow
    @bestnottoknow Před 2 lety +606

    First he hits the game winning home run then goes on to be the guardian of the Galaxy

    • @MilkyJohnsons
      @MilkyJohnsons Před 2 lety +91

      Dude trains raptors too. Talk about range

    • @yubnubgang6230
      @yubnubgang6230 Před 2 lety +50

      @@MilkyJohnsons He also works at a local Parks and Rec in Indiana

    • @scottegbert9575
      @scottegbert9575 Před 2 lety +10

      CHRIS PRATT IS SCOTT HATTEBERG?!

    • @charlieq2012
      @charlieq2012 Před 2 lety +13

      But he also slept with an Askavarian. 😨

    • @owenanderson3425
      @owenanderson3425 Před 2 lety +5

      Scott hatteberg is built different 💪

  • @gdog0924
    @gdog0924 Před 2 lety +217

    I was at game 20. The thing I remember most about that night besides Hatteberg's home run was the electricity in the air driving into the parking lot. You could literally feel it where all the hairs on the back of your neck are standing up. And the stadium seemed like it ws pulsating as I walked toward it. Been to playoff football and basketball games and this game is number one on my list. A truly magical night in sports that I will never forget.

    • @winstonkostrzewa1585
      @winstonkostrzewa1585 Před rokem +3

      I love stuff like this, I’m thrilled for you to have been there to experience a great piece of baseball history.

    • @AliceYobby
      @AliceYobby Před 11 měsíci +1

      This is how I felt about seeing Game 6 of the 2011 WS as a Cardinals fan. Nothing beats a baseball game like that.

    • @Maske002
      @Maske002 Před 14 dny

      I was there too. Oakland baseball, despite everything the ownership groups had tried, always found its way to magic.

  • @YouOnlyIiveTwice
    @YouOnlyIiveTwice Před 2 lety +1081

    The most impressive thing about the movie to me was Casey Bond (guy who played Chad Bradford) did a great job in the movie replicating how the actual Chad Bradford pitched. I know Bond did play baseball before turning to acting, but that still can't be an easy thing to just go out there and throw the ball like that.

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +210

      I have a theory that they actually had an entire subplot filmed about Bradford struggling in high pressure games that was cut out (it's in the book). That's why they had an actor play him and not a baseball player extra, left in a speaking line for him, and during game 20 they emphasized the pitching change in the 8th inning (showing the manger coming to the mound, a few closeups on Bradford, etc). The book didn't really have a resolution to that subplot, so they cut it from the movie because there's really no resolution to the conflict which is what you want in a movie story... but you can see traces of it in some of the footage that was edited down.

    • @YouOnlyIiveTwice
      @YouOnlyIiveTwice Před 2 lety +19

      @@BaseballsNotDead Oh wow I didn't even know that!

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +51

      @@YouOnlyIiveTwice It's completely speculation, so I could be wrong, but read the book taking notes for another video I was working on right after seeing the movie, and you can kinda see references to what the book talked about but they don't actually have the subplot.

    • @napalmpudding
      @napalmpudding Před 2 lety +8

      @@BaseballsNotDead they could've made the movie much longer but i'm kinda glad they didn't. the movie is just really airtight as is

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +35

      @@napalmpudding Oh definitely. I think all those editing decisions were good choices. This is a movie, not a documentary. Gotta have it tell and story and flow well.

  • @kilgoretrout321
    @kilgoretrout321 Před 2 lety +122

    If it were really that dark on a baseball field, no one would be able to see the ball

    • @jph4852
      @jph4852 Před 2 lety +11

      Right. I know the Coliseum is a dump in real life but the lighting was usually OK. But in the movie, the lighting was terrible.

    • @sarahthule3034
      @sarahthule3034 Před 2 lety +27

      For dramatic effect

    • @agrofindastation
      @agrofindastation Před 2 lety

      I've always hated that about baseball in movies how they make it so dark. Hell, in The Fan, they are both in the dark and in a torrential rainstorm.

    • @lcfflc3887
      @lcfflc3887 Před 10 dny

      ​@@agrofindastationit makes it easier for them to hide things in the background that are not there.

  • @AJ-vm8ft
    @AJ-vm8ft Před 2 lety +468

    My biggest beef with Moneyball (book and movie) is it fails to mention their dominant starting pitching. Prime Zito, Hudson, Mulder, and Harang. Hitting is only half of the game.

    • @Craytonkrenshaw
      @Craytonkrenshaw Před 2 lety +64

      and they don't mention miguel tejada and how he won the mvp to "replace Giambi" Like, they did have a replacement for him

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +89

      2001 A's had Tejada AND Giambi... so losing Giambi did require a replacement outside of Tejada.

    • @flintybraz1
      @flintybraz1 Před 2 lety +19

      I always bring that up. Plus Tejada, Chavez, Long, & Dye. but Harang only won 5 games with a 4.8 ERA

    • @Craytonkrenshaw
      @Craytonkrenshaw Před 2 lety +5

      @@BaseballsNotDead what im saying is that Tejada stepped up and became just as productive as Giambi. They didn't have to fill the shoes of Giambi because Tejada replaced him internally

    • @bvnshee6749
      @bvnshee6749 Před 2 lety +20

      @@BaseballsNotDead u should still probably mention it at some point in the movie.
      We’re not stupid bro, we both know the movie frames it as a team full of players the whole league viewed as dogshit. Non baseball fans literally think they had no stars, when they had arguably the best shortstop in the game, an absolute fucking ace on any team in the league, and a loaded rotation. It never once mentions a word of this lmao

  • @bananaspatula
    @bananaspatula Před 2 lety +160

    I didn’t know Tony Gwynn announced the game. Wish that was in the movie a little. Good to hear his voice again.

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt Před 2 lety +12

      If he had already passed away at that point I’m sure they would have included something about him, but at the time this came out (2009?), I don’t think Gwynn had health issues

    • @jeremymccommons7741
      @jeremymccommons7741 Před 2 lety +1

      Tony Gwynn was still playing at that point, idk why they would've had him announce the game when they were obviously trying their best for realism

    • @TheLocalLt
      @TheLocalLt Před 2 lety +5

      @@jeremymccommons7741 he wasn’t playing in 2009, that’s why he was commentating in these clips from 2002… he was an ESPN announcer throughout the mid-2000s and then for TBS later

    • @JMacSD
      @JMacSD Před 2 lety +1

      Yeah, heard his voice and thought "what is TG Jr talking about here?" for about a second then remembered TG Sr was an ESPN announcer after retiring from the Padres, before settling in as coach of the Aztecs.

    • @paulmd2010
      @paulmd2010 Před 2 lety

      @@JMacSD he was already the Aztecs head coach. He took over the first season after retiring.
      He just wouldn't do any games for ESPN until the college season was over.

  • @mysteryman0216
    @mysteryman0216 Před 2 lety +161

    In the back of the starting pitchers mind, he was probably thinking “I had an 11-0 lead, how tf am I not getting a W on my record!”

    • @darrellhall6622
      @darrellhall6622 Před 2 lety +3

      Think about poor Indians pitcher that was four out for a rare performance only to give up a base hit. 7 2/3 innings perfection

    • @mysteryman0216
      @mysteryman0216 Před 2 lety +20

      @@darrellhall6622 I’d rather think of Gallaraga from the Tigers who had thrown a perfect game…..except Jim Joyce ruined it by mistakenly calling safe 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @evancole7382
      @evancole7382 Před 2 lety

      @@mysteryman0216 u j u my nu

    • @CSDonohue11
      @CSDonohue11 Před 2 lety +2

      @@mysteryman0216
      28* Out imPerfect/Perfect Game *

    • @buttruckers5875
      @buttruckers5875 Před 2 lety +1

      @@darrellhall6622 that’s 7 outs away.

  • @ioncomics4851
    @ioncomics4851 Před 2 lety +595

    How can you not be romantic about baseball?!!

    • @budbinner2276
      @budbinner2276 Před 2 lety +9

      That’s right Billy! 😎🤟

    • @markeyfarrell
      @markeyfarrell Před 2 lety +4

      used to be myself. raised on the game... but then they expand games to 4 hours, go pink, GOVid, and all kinds of other pc correct progressive horse manure. lost the love. baseball may not be dead - but it is surely dying.

    • @danimal097521
      @danimal097521 Před 2 lety +2

      It was easy to be romantic about baseball.....when baseball was different and stood out. Used to mean something when say Oakland played San Fran or the Yankees played the Mets. Now? Meeehh see that every year. Then add on the ever expanding playoffs. What are we up to now? 5 teams per league? 6? 8? It WAS the only sport where the regular season actually meant something. Now? Hell under .500 teams make the playoffs....

    • @HotAcidicDiarrhea
      @HotAcidicDiarrhea Před 2 lety +2

      This was the start of all the analytical crap flooding baseball

    • @Polarergeist2
      @Polarergeist2 Před 2 lety +4

      Because the umps control the game, reviewing a play and it being “non reviewable” so someone gets away with cheating on tape 💀. Yall betas never played or seen a real sport so you like this shit 😂 i would say play hockey but youd be dead after the first hit or fight 🤷‍♂️

  • @gpturner0924
    @gpturner0924 Před 2 lety +69

    The most accurate parts of the recreation in the movie were Justice falling into the left field wall on the Tucker double, Sweeney's home run, how he wasn't sure it left the park and taking a few steps and watching it before running the bases, the game tying base hit for the Royals, which landed in almost the exact spot and the throw home was damn near exact (almost looked like they used actual footage here), and Hatteberg stepping into the box, the ball, and the home run swing. Even the way Pratt ran the bases, all the way down to the celebratory arm swing and pump were almost exact to what Hattie did in the actual game.

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +19

      For Justice falling, they cut to the actual game footage. That's why there's a weird resolution change.

    • @chlly
      @chlly Před 2 lety +9

      @@BaseballsNotDead It looks like they did similar cuts for some of the cut-off throws. Having one of the leads watching the game on TV at that point really allowed for the use of existing footage to feel organic in the flow of things.

    • @ClassicJukeboxBand
      @ClassicJukeboxBand Před 9 měsíci

      I saw the Sweeney home run from the right field upper deck. It just hung up there, and I was certain it was going to go foul...

  • @matthewh8573
    @matthewh8573 Před 2 lety +52

    Still one of the best baseball movies and a testament to the statement, “How can you not be romantic about baseball?”

  • @michaelfesinmeyer2061
    @michaelfesinmeyer2061 Před 2 lety +125

    Fun Fact: Brent Mayne was on deck when Barry Bonds was walked intentionally with the bases loaded. Mayne lined out to end the inning.

    • @mynameismarcusT
      @mynameismarcusT Před 2 lety

      I thought that was Rich Aurillia

    • @Posirep
      @Posirep Před 2 lety

      @@mynameismarcusT it was Mayne...if were talking about Diamondbacks game

    • @thedude3065
      @thedude3065 Před rokem +1

      not the inning, the game
      it was the bottom of the ninth with two outs

  • @stephenmoore2233
    @stephenmoore2233 Před 2 lety +46

    Thanks for putting this together. Really well done.
    I wasn't quite ready to unexpectedly hear Tony Gwynn's voice today. Hit me right in the gut. Rest in peace, one of my favorite humans.

    • @greggillings9454
      @greggillings9454 Před 2 lety +3

      What about hearing Bill Kings famous "Holy Toledo" that instantly made me think of the Raiders. Makes sense he called the radio broadcast for the A's as well.

    • @damnityoutubetoomanyads
      @damnityoutubetoomanyads Před 2 lety +2

      I didn't think about the context and took it as Jr. for granted. Jr. does look and sound like pops for sure.

  • @FivePointsVids
    @FivePointsVids Před 2 lety +238

    Amazing. Great job.

    • @caleisnotfunny
      @caleisnotfunny Před 2 lety +3

      Even fpv got this vid in his recommended today

    • @dudeman3973
      @dudeman3973 Před 2 lety +1

      That's high praise coming from FPV.

  • @chasestankievech
    @chasestankievech Před 2 lety +15

    One of my all time favourite sports movies. Gives me chills every time I see it. Reminds me why baseball is so beautiful

  • @codyeble6764
    @codyeble6764 Před 2 lety +78

    The acting on the faces of Brad Pitt, Johan Hill and Philip Seymour Hoffman was magnificent on the last crack of the bat.. Pitt shocked and relieved, Jonah kind of confused and excited and Hoffman in disbelief and kinda think dang Billy was right

    • @bill2953
      @bill2953 Před 2 lety +1

      Brad Pitt sells that he can actually act better than anyone else in the biz. Since this movie he's gone to wearng a $1,500 mullet and thinks we don't notice. lol

    • @CSDonohue11
      @CSDonohue11 Před 2 lety

      It’s so hard to act surprised
      Dude… so much depth in them
      They’re like above you

    • @bill2953
      @bill2953 Před 2 lety +1

      @@CSDonohue11 And you're who, again?

  • @StanStacks
    @StanStacks Před 2 lety +41

    The world was robbed with Tony Gwynn passing so young.

    • @YaowBucketHEAD
      @YaowBucketHEAD Před 2 lety +7

      I grew up in San Diego and at least around my "circle" of people, we LOVED Tony Gwynn.
      After his passing, I remember reading on Deadspin and a few other sites of stories of fans who actually met Mr. Padre and there was nothing but love for how kind of a human he was.
      One story that stuck with me was that Wil Clark (I don't remember him being on the Pads) calling the ball boys "f*ggots" for no reason (that's definitely Wil Clark) and Tony calling him out on his shit and later signing some bats and balls for the kids.
      I also remember hearing how Tony was always known for hanging out after games making sure everyone got an autograph and maybe a little chat.
      Great dude. Passed away way too young, but made a whole generation of fans in his time. Rest in Power.

  • @randomwhiteguy8784
    @randomwhiteguy8784 Před 2 lety +19

    This video was a jomboy breakdown. Great editing. You deserve a CZcams plaque for the dedication to the details of this movie and actual footage. Personally I think the movie did a great job replicating the game. A lot of the flubs were because there needed to be some theatricals.

  • @sandyimage2668
    @sandyimage2668 Před 2 lety +43

    I enjoy listening to tony Gwynn talk baseball

    • @lobster272
      @lobster272 Před 2 lety +3

      Miss him every day, man.

    • @joeflynncomedy5518
      @joeflynncomedy5518 Před 2 lety +2

      Thanks for this. I knew I recognized the voice, but blanked on who it was. Came to the comments specifically to find out

    • @booniedavillier504
      @booniedavillier504 Před 2 lety

      I use to go over his house every weekend after school.. Tony jr and I were best friends back n the day..

  • @CombatWombat322
    @CombatWombat322 Před 2 lety +253

    I think they rigged the real games so it was like the movie

  • @spoonsz
    @spoonsz Před 2 lety +54

    Commenting to help the algorithm great work on this... i remember watching this game as a royals fan when I was a kid

    • @salisburythefox8324
      @salisburythefox8324 Před 2 lety

      Were you upset about it?

    • @spoonsz
      @spoonsz Před 2 lety +1

      @@salisburythefox8324 was the norm for them lol i know they were bad but that terrible team was actually fun to watch they are why I am a fan of baseball. The next year was the we believe year when I was a kid kansas city was so alive. Great hitting teams just terrible pitching

    • @spoonsz
      @spoonsz Před 2 lety

      Also I never missed a game when they were on national broadcast I still don't to this day. While were here fuck espn for their coverage of salvy in the homerun derby

    • @TheCollapsedPsi
      @TheCollapsedPsi Před 2 lety

      Ah, so you're the one that brought me here.

    • @twowheeltim
      @twowheeltim Před 2 lety

      @@spoonsz F**k ESPN for a lot more than that! They may as well be YESpn because they’re in bed with the Yankees! 🤮

  • @crescard24
    @crescard24 Před 2 lety +138

    Well put together ! Nice vid

  • @baconnightmare5454
    @baconnightmare5454 Před 2 lety +11

    Damn its crazy to hear Tony Gwynn's voice as the announcer for this game. Really cool to hear Tony Gwynn Jr. announcing the Padres games occasionally these days.

  • @Joey73083
    @Joey73083 Před rokem +1

    I gotta say the time you took to put this together & the way you presented it is perfectly done. I thoroughly enjoyed watching this!

  • @zennyspent
    @zennyspent Před 2 lety +21

    Just an excellent piece of work here, thank you.

  • @jakebulgarian7319
    @jakebulgarian7319 Před rokem +7

    R.I.P Tony Gwynn, One of if not the GREATEST hitter of all time. Watching him and Griffey play was something truly special, two Men who really played for the love of the game!

  • @thejagsfan147
    @thejagsfan147 Před 2 lety +10

    This is an awesome video. Although everything isn't exact, Moneyball is imo one of the best sports movies of this generation. Especially when there wasn't another baseball movie at the time

  • @libradawg9
    @libradawg9 Před 2 lety +9

    I'm a fan of how they Hollywooded the call for Hatteberg to PH. Art Howe engineered the 90s Astros, brought Bagwell and Biggio to the majors and won consistently. To have him as the de facto villain was my ONLY weakness for the movie. They even had Jonah Depodesta sneering at an ESPN report that gave Art credit. For them to give him that moment in this movie was big for me.
    Overall it's pure Magic. Truth is Stranger Than Fiction, right? If I was watching a fictional movie and the team blew an 11-0 lead with Tim Hudson on the mound only to win on a walk-off HR by the sweetheart player of the movie, ON THE DAY of the record win streak?? I would turn it off then and there.

  • @ClassicJukeboxBand
    @ClassicJukeboxBand Před 2 lety +4

    This game was much more exciting actually seeing it in person. The stadium went crazy when Hatteberg hit that walk off.
    The reason I went was because it was dollar ticket and dollar hot dog night.

  • @user-nj5pd4ms6x
    @user-nj5pd4ms6x Před 2 lety +18

    Pratt did a real nice job with really getting hattebergs mannerisms during that at bat to a T

    • @evanmcrae9370
      @evanmcrae9370 Před 2 lety +1

      Especially the shoulder shrug. He was on point

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +6

      For all of the editing decisions and minor inaccuracies, they absolutely nailed the error at second by Tejada, Mike Sweeney's home run, and Hatteberg's at bat. It shows they put in a lot of time recreating those 3 shots. For the one hit that was bobbled in the corner, I don't think they were able to get convincing footage of the bobble (it's hard to recreate a mistake accurately and look authentic) so they cut to real game footage of the bobble for a couple of seconds (and also dimmed the lighting on that real game footage to match their movie footage). They did it in a way where you don't really notice it.

    • @jasonboisseau409
      @jasonboisseau409 Před 2 lety +5

      Ya I always thought Chris Pratt did a great job as Hatteberg. He did an incredible job with Hatteberg’s swing and even his jog around the bases is identical. Not to mention Pratt actually looks a lot like Hatty. I wonder if that was a big reason that he got the job.

  • @BBones541
    @BBones541 Před 2 lety

    Wow, first video and you smack it out of the park with over 100k views!
    Congrats man! Great video

  • @mosesari8925
    @mosesari8925 Před 2 lety +21

    Thanks for the effort . Here’s a comment to help the algorithm get this out to everyone who would love to see this just as I loved it .

  • @dukenukembubblegum7311
    @dukenukembubblegum7311 Před 2 lety +34

    How come the movie makes it seem like such a dark and lonely place on, and in the park? I mean they are lit up like a Christmas tree

    • @jacob1399
      @jacob1399 Před 2 lety +12

      Because they are creating tension

    • @luketevlin4031
      @luketevlin4031 Před 2 lety +1

      Also they did it for cinematic value. Baseball is a difficult game to see as a team game, and they were emphasizing how much one player can change the game so drastically. Plus, the focus is on the players and not the fans for the purpose of the movie, so the director was probably trying to make it seem like the spotlight was on the players

    • @ElusiveClarity
      @ElusiveClarity Před 2 lety

      The darkness also contributes to the feeling of the A's as a low budget team, which was such a central theme to the film.

    • @drosky5512
      @drosky5512 Před 2 lety +2

      @Matt B i was an extra in the stadium. It was legitimately full, i had never seen mt davis full like that for any raider or a's game. Not even a battle of the bay or playoff.

    • @calebfernandez7782
      @calebfernandez7782 Před 2 lety +2

      I also don't like the fact that the scene was so dark. It made if feel cold and depressing in an odd way . I think it was a poor choice.

  • @Keyser___Soze
    @Keyser___Soze Před 2 lety +82

    I remember when this happened as a kid but obviously couldn’t remember the details of this game. Im surprised and glad they made it pretty accurate to what actually happened. I mean the real game for the record 20th win was such a crazy game anyway so you dont need to make it anymore dramatic.
    Most movies still would have made them blow like a 30 run lead, Hatterberg would have had a broken leg and then hit the homerun. He also would have promised come child cancer patient he would hit a homerun for him and they would have added the earthquake that happened in the world series or something trying to pass it off for “based off a true story”

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 Před 2 lety +8

      They should make a movie out of your last paragraph

    • @michaelviens2894
      @michaelviens2894 Před 2 lety +1

      @@danevertt3210 stop it 😂 😂

    • @danevertt3210
      @danevertt3210 Před 2 lety +9

      @@michaelviens2894 “in a stunning string of event, the A’s have blown a 30 run lead.
      Here we are folks, bottom of the 9th, game tied, 30/30.
      Hatteburg steps up to the plate….he’s had a decent season so far but he just recently broke his leg. This unfortunately might effect his swing. The break occurred, oddly enough, when you stood up off the players bench.
      First pitch in - ball one…..
      Hatteburg, just today visited the local general hospital……and promised a cancer patient child, little Jimmy Peterson, a home run tonight. Let’s see if he can make this kids dreams come true…
      On a 2-2 pitch, and…….holy hell it’s a earthquake!! Dear god folks, brace yourselves.
      Ladies and Gentlemen, we have word that the I-90 skyway has just collapsed, in the midst of this earthquake. God bless the souls of those driving to and from on the skyway. Scary times……
      Full count now……Hatteburg steps into the pitch and - holy hell it’s a dinger into far left field…..
      Back, back, back……and it’s gone!!!!!!
      Hatteburg smacks a home run in the bottom of the 9th to win the World Series!!! Just look at that jolly a$shore crawl from first to 2nd with his broken leg. Baaaahhhhhh gawdddddd ya gotta love baseball folks”……
      And scene…..

    • @michaelviens2894
      @michaelviens2894 Před 2 lety

      I love baseball played it my whole life but I would rather watch UFC nowadays or my Tampa Bay rays!!! Tampa. Bay….

  • @matthewbrightman3398
    @matthewbrightman3398 Před rokem

    Thanks so much for pulling this together. Really enjoyed it.

  • @avoton6020
    @avoton6020 Před 2 lety +51

    Honestly, the biggest surprise in this was actually hearing that there is some Godspeed You! Black Emperor in the Moneyball movie at the end of the video.
    Edit: I"m an idiot and mistook This Will Destroy You for Godspeed. Everyone, point and laugh at the dunce.

    • @petermoore7796
      @petermoore7796 Před 2 lety +6

      the main theme is also a great post-rock song called "The Mighty Rio Grande" by This Will Destroy You

    • @avoton6020
      @avoton6020 Před 2 lety +1

      @@petermoore7796 A fellow man of culture, I see. My older brother introduced me to them a while ago, and they are really good as well. I just uh... Didn't even notice or hear it in the video.

    • @grumpytuber
      @grumpytuber Před 2 lety +2

      i don’t hear any godspeed. i hear this will destroy you, am i missing something?

    • @Scouty208
      @Scouty208 Před 2 lety +1

      This video has "The Mighty Rio Grande" by This Will Destroy You. I don't know what Godspeed You! Black Emperor song you're referring to?

    • @avoton6020
      @avoton6020 Před 2 lety

      @@grumpytuber No you're not, lol. I'm just an idiot.

  • @lemmiwinks09
    @lemmiwinks09 Před 2 lety +21

    I saw this movie in theaters as a preview (before the final cut was made). This game took 20 minutes of film and was full of cuts of seemingly every pitch/hit, etc…
    I’m glad they edited down to what you see in the final cut but I guess they had continuity issues that may have stemmed from cutting scenes that mimicked the actual game’s play-by-play.

    • @BaseballsNotDead
      @BaseballsNotDead  Před 2 lety +8

      Wow, thanks for the info. This was definitely the feeling I got when looking deep into the final product. It seemed like they took the footage they had available and worked it into a cohesive 8 minutes in order to better tell the story, which included moving some shots around out of order. And, honestly, unless you really dig into it like I did here, it isn't noticeable at all.

  • @KY-YE
    @KY-YE Před 2 lety +2

    I always liked baseball, played as a kid, but never really watched or followed the sport to close (watched the movie) but I just noticed at the end when Hatteburg was running the bases, and he swung his arms in celebration- that’s a super iconic moment in baseball, like I remember seeing that celebration highlight years ago- now I finally randomly know why, makes that movie even better to me now lol. Saw this movie twice. Pretty good-

  • @teddygramz2008
    @teddygramz2008 Před rokem +3

    Man they did a great job of casting. A lot of the actors really resembled the players. Especially Chris Pratt and Scott hatteburg

  • @rd3095
    @rd3095 Před 2 lety +1

    Great video man! I thought the audio from the film was real. I can actually appreciate the dramatic liberty they took a bit more because of your context. Considering they are trying to get someone, not necessarily a spectator of baseball, to feel like one of the fans attending that night. really neat video.

  • @violenceteacher6669
    @violenceteacher6669 Před 2 lety +12

    Marvelous job putting this together.

  • @jesuscage
    @jesuscage Před 2 lety +4

    U really put alot of effort into this.... well done

  • @davebierman5501
    @davebierman5501 Před 2 lety +9

    Never knew it was Chris Pratt playing Hatteberg til now

    • @RandomzVideoCrew
      @RandomzVideoCrew Před 2 lety

      Yea I thought he looked similar to Chris Pratt but never thought it was actually him lol, my mind is blown

  • @TheKukulkan
    @TheKukulkan Před 2 lety +11

    Watching this video all I can think about is "I miss Tony Gwynn"

  • @stephenstansell3026
    @stephenstansell3026 Před 2 lety +43

    There must have been a line for the shitter after this game finished.

  • @1c3l4nd3
    @1c3l4nd3 Před 2 lety +1

    Good video man. Respect the work. First time ever seeing this.

  • @redeyes12354
    @redeyes12354 Před 2 lety +1

    Still gave me the chills.

  • @mattwalker5129
    @mattwalker5129 Před 2 lety +1

    This was fantastic. You have a clear love for this game. Well done.

  • @slowpeelz
    @slowpeelz Před 2 lety +9

    This is awesome! Well done

  • @BallsMcGuinty
    @BallsMcGuinty Před rokem +1

    sweet Video, Moneyball is my favourite
    had no idea Dan Shulman called this game, What a home Run call!!

  • @robertparker6280
    @robertparker6280 Před rokem +3

    Man I couldn't imagine what the fans, Billy, and especially the players felt when they had a 11-0 lead, and the Royals tie it up. Man that must of been gut renching.
    But every time I see the tie my heart drops, but when I see the win I start tearing up.

    • @robinlinh
      @robinlinh Před rokem

      Billy is like me. Like I don’t watch important games of my fav team because I believe if I watch I jinx them. Same as Billy here, but the team is leading 11-0. He turned back his car to watch the game, just to watch his team blow a 11 runs lead. Heart wrenching

    • @ClassicJukeboxBand
      @ClassicJukeboxBand Před 9 měsíci

      I was managing a slow pitch softball team at the time, and I had somebody replace me for a game that night so I could go to Oakland to see this game. The worst play from my perspective, understanding strategy was when Tejada tried to throw out the runner at home when the bases were loaded. The A's still had a big lead at that time, and just needed an out. Tejada's blunder could have cost them the game.

  • @joey_morg
    @joey_morg Před 2 lety +1

    Great video! Had me on the edge of my seat just like back in 02.....and I'm a Yankee fan! Lol!

  • @jameslisle7775
    @jameslisle7775 Před 2 lety +2

    I didn’t know I needed this video!

  • @jpbandit531
    @jpbandit531 Před rokem +1

    I appreciate it. You went down a rabbit hole from your own curiosity and decided to share it. It's fun!

  • @voodoosnake2215
    @voodoosnake2215 Před 2 lety +4

    Hatteberg's last homer was like 5,000 candles in the wind

  • @PowerHouseWash
    @PowerHouseWash Před 2 lety +2

    I thought it was a good movie. Haven't been a baseball fan since I was a kid. The comparison you show here, points out how real life can be as good as a script. I'm sure many who watched the move, thought this game was a product of the writers. Glad to see we were wrong.

  • @oaktownfish3665
    @oaktownfish3665 Před 2 lety +17

    still gives me goosebumps.. I love my A's! Please don't ever leave Oakland!

    • @robapple78
      @robapple78 Před 2 lety +2

      Ummm…. In the past decade their highest attendance is 23rd of the 30 teams and they’re 29th again this year. It’s a bad situation for the city and the team. Unfortunately it’s time for a divorce….

    • @lordrevanz16
      @lordrevanz16 Před 2 lety

      The A's will be gone in 5 years

    • @oaktownfish3665
      @oaktownfish3665 Před 2 lety

      @@robapple78 Ummm...Yea if you haven't noticed our stadium is a dump its not even supposed to be a baseball stadium it was built for football. Lot of history in oakland it would be a shame to have oakland lose ALL 3 sports teams . I was at the coliseum during this streak with over 52,000 other fans. The New stadium on the water is our only hope and if it gets approved it will be a game changer

    • @oaktownfish3665
      @oaktownfish3665 Před 2 lety

      @@lordrevanz16 how kind of you to add thank you so much

    • @lordrevanz16
      @lordrevanz16 Před 2 lety

      @@oaktownfish3665 it's the sad reality of the situation

  • @Heaven_is_a_frequency6263

    Great video, thanks for the upload!

  • @Thomas-up8ig
    @Thomas-up8ig Před 2 lety +2

    After i saw this movie i started to watch baseball, at the beginning i thought it was boring but in couple of weeks i enjoy the game, great sports and great video

  • @hitstickrikk3669
    @hitstickrikk3669 Před 2 lety +8

    This must've taken a while to do lol, nice vid

  • @chrisw443
    @chrisw443 Před 2 lety +4

    Pretty damn accurate for most films. Give em an A-

  • @nickcrawford3841
    @nickcrawford3841 Před 2 lety

    By far the best baseball movie of all time and it’s not close. This should have more views!!

  • @wholewheaties
    @wholewheaties Před rokem

    Great video, thanks. This movie is a classic, I could watch it over and over.

  • @yourpalborno
    @yourpalborno Před rokem +3

    Tears every time I watch this scene. My god, how can you not be romantic about baseball?

  • @raqcem99
    @raqcem99 Před 2 lety +6

    This was a great movie for baseball. I don't like how the game is changing but it's nice to go back to moments like these and relive the game that was once so great.

  • @jesusmonty8767
    @jesusmonty8767 Před rokem +1

    That was a great video you made, thank you🎉

  • @JohnnyWoodard
    @JohnnyWoodard Před 2 lety

    Enjoyed this. And I can guarantee you the editor didn't do anything accidentally or without approval.

  • @Wizballin
    @Wizballin Před 2 lety

    Well done, I can see the work that went into this vid

  • @justinaguilar2344
    @justinaguilar2344 Před 2 lety +6

    So glad I made it to a few of these games, during the streak. Good times at the Coli

  • @AeroRanger100
    @AeroRanger100 Před 2 lety +7

    As an Angels fan, I've always had a soft spot and respect for the A's. This movie reminds me why.

    • @justinharris2272
      @justinharris2272 Před 2 lety +1

      Funny that you say that, I'm an A's fan but I really like the Angels and Angels in the outfield is a pretty good movie too lmao

  • @Acornbaseballtiktok
    @Acornbaseballtiktok Před 2 lety +18

    Very cool!

  • @davidmayberry3190
    @davidmayberry3190 Před 2 lety +4

    Nice to hear Tony Gwynn's voice.

  • @Keyser___Soze
    @Keyser___Soze Před 2 lety

    Awesome work and video. You earned a subscriber!

  • @cricketsonic-nu1wi
    @cricketsonic-nu1wi Před měsícem

    i dont know much about baseball but this movie forced me to see more & now i love this game ❤ love from india 🇮🇳

  • @northernguy8860
    @northernguy8860 Před 2 lety

    This Will Destroy You's Mighty Rio Grande added a depth to the scene that hit me right in the solar plexus. The sound of all struggles redeemed in one glorious moment.

  • @markphilson6039
    @markphilson6039 Před 2 lety

    You did an amazing job with this, thank you

  • @donniesizemore9272
    @donniesizemore9272 Před 2 lety

    Its crazy how accurate the stances and delivers were

  • @hardlymick
    @hardlymick Před 2 lety +1

    This is outstanding. Thank you.

  • @lukewatson1636
    @lukewatson1636 Před 2 lety +2

    Imagine coming back from an 11-0 deficit just for them to hit a walk off bomb

  • @NickLineback
    @NickLineback Před 2 lety +1

    So sounds like the editor forgot to check the actual video for ABS and sequencing. Still pretty damn good

  • @EnjoySackLunch
    @EnjoySackLunch Před 2 lety

    This is great work. Thanks

  • @unclecreepy4185
    @unclecreepy4185 Před 2 lety +1

    This feels like one of those movies, like Apollo 13, where the test audiences probably thought it fake with too much Hollywood drama. “Up 11-0, then tied at the bottom of the 9th, and he hits a home run? Only in Hollywood!”

  • @karlboud88
    @karlboud88 Před 2 lety +2

    Me: Closes CZcams and proceeds to go watch Moneyball yet again

  • @KooperLyn
    @KooperLyn Před 2 lety

    Played with Scottie when we won the 14-year old little league state championship. One of the best people I knew growing up. Been waiting for Scottie to be a manager of an MLB team! Love ya Man ❤️

  • @johnjackson8064
    @johnjackson8064 Před 24 dny

    How does one not tear up when you see that many happy people?

  • @smeterpan3073
    @smeterpan3073 Před rokem

    impossible not to get emotional watching this

  • @slicksimmons
    @slicksimmons Před 2 lety

    I was at that game and couldn't spot out the differences. I don't think anyone was surprised when hatteberg pinch hit. Our offense needed a spark and he was our guy. Great job!

  • @vcp93
    @vcp93 Před 5 měsíci

    I am not a big A's fan... hell, I'm not even much of a baseball fan, but I love this movie. Everything about it is perfect. "How can you not be romantic about baseball". Such a great line from a fantastic film. 👍👍

  • @clarencedavismba5042
    @clarencedavismba5042 Před 2 lety

    This piece is great work.

  • @TheSharter
    @TheSharter Před 2 lety +100

    I can't tell if that's Tony Gwynn or Tony Gwynn Jr. commentating on the actual game play.

    • @hankstanley7870
      @hankstanley7870 Před 2 lety +34

      That's Gwynn Sr. Great to hear his voice again...RIP Mr. Padre...

    • @Padsquad2010
      @Padsquad2010 Před 2 lety +8

      Gwynn Jr. was either in college or the minors at the time these games happened.

    • @mackenziek8383
      @mackenziek8383 Před 2 lety +5

      he sounds like he ate a fart, so it's definitely Tony Gwynn

    • @chrishoward1378
      @chrishoward1378 Před 2 lety +3

      That was Tony Gwynn the 2nd Goat hitter of all time(imo). Who played for the Padres

    • @DrFopdoodle
      @DrFopdoodle Před 2 lety +2

      @@chrishoward1378 Ted Williams better be number one!

  • @alexgood9512
    @alexgood9512 Před 2 lety

    Thank you for making this

  • @traviscoates6878
    @traviscoates6878 Před 2 lety +1

    In that final scene, it's the same music as on Lone Survivor. Always makes me sad ☹️

    • @Grimmes12
      @Grimmes12 Před 2 lety

      Ohh wow never thought of that...This Will Destroy You definitely makes memorable music

  • @justinharris2272
    @justinharris2272 Před 2 lety

    I'm lucky enough to have grown up an A's fan. Who doesn't want a great movie like this made about their favourite team? Simply iconic

  • @dougchap8673
    @dougchap8673 Před 2 lety +1

    They were close on all of this tbh they did a GREAT job

  • @joefelice5062
    @joefelice5062 Před 2 lety +3

    I found it absurd that there was never a mention of starting pitching in the film. The only pitcher discussed was a reliever (Bradford), meanwhile the A’s had guys like Zito, Mulder, Hudson, etc... And Beane had no problem getting guys with a bunch of college innings on their arms, and thus shorter career windows. This certainly should have been in the film.
    One last thing about the book and film that was silly, the idea that OBP value was somehow invented by Beane and his Ivy League assistant. Gene Michael & Bob Watson did this almost 10 years earlier in NY and built a successful dynasty. The whole philosophy that Beane describes in the film of taking pitches and knocking out starters is exactly what the Yankees were doing years before this. The only difference is that Beane had to keep cost in mind, whereas Michael could go after guys who take pitches/get on base without worrying so much about cost (Boggs for example). Aside from the “money” part, the entire baseball philosophy in the book/film was not revolutionary.

    • @glisuni
      @glisuni Před 2 lety

      Concur. That’s what that team was best known for, that starting pitching corps.

  • @todddollasign5635
    @todddollasign5635 Před 2 lety

    I was pretty young when this happened, I think it was MLB 2005 that had Eric chavez on the cover and that was the first baseball video game I played when I was 9, so I don’t even remember this era of the A’s as Im a Red Sox fan. But I don’t think I’ve EVER heard an A’s crowd as loud as when he hit that walk off

  • @jaydengoff8141
    @jaydengoff8141 Před 2 lety

    Great vid man, keep it up.

  • @MrJason41042
    @MrJason41042 Před 2 lety

    This is awesome. Thank you.