This is the record which will never be broken: Johnny Vander Meer's Two Consecutive No-Hitters. A pitcher would need to pitch three consecutive no hitters to break this record
@@samuelmoulds1016 you haven’t seen two yet let alone three . This is the one record that will never be broken . One good reason ,today’s pitchers are pussys .
@@blu3collar949 Your talking about high school .what’s that got to do with anything? There’s been hundreds of kids that look like the Hall of Fame will never hold them and they wind up in the crapper . The pressure gets greater and greater as you climb the ladder . This kid from Texas hopefully got a good education and went on to live a normal life .
He replaced Lou Gehrig for that record. People always for decades said the same thing that you did about Ripken that Gehrig's consecutive game streak would NEVER be broken. They were wrong.
I would put Nolan Ryan's 7 career no hitters in the class of unbreakable records, as pitchers getting complete games are rare enough. Others include Ty Cobb's career batting average and Cal Ripken's consecutive games played.
I would agree because Ryan is the best ball player ever IMO, but one day an absolute savage could come in and throw multiple no-nos over several seasons. Most if not all of the records on this list are things you can only accomplish over a long career while staying healthy just about the entire time.
I disagree. 7 no-hitters are probably one of the easier ones to break. Verlander has 3 which makes him tied for third place all-time. Which is pretty good in the context of these other records. No-hitters are up even with shutouts down.
@@deathmetal11111 Easier? IMO Verlander is great just for having 3, but in no way does that mean getting twice as many plus one is "easy"... I just don't see it, as pitchers simply don't pitch as many innings and games as Ryan did in his day... well, I'll say this.... I'm 60, and no way in hell is that getting broken in my life-time... it would take a lot of luck too as both Ryan and the great Bob Feller had 12 one-hitters!
@Erich Von Manstein OBP is determined from both at bats and plate appearances. Also the specific outcomes of each. Look up the formula used. It’s “approximately” equal to Times on Base/Plate Appearances.
@@erichvonmanstein6876 what the frick are you talking about? Im saying according to his OBP, Hes getting On-base almost 50% of the time. youre not making since.
Well, here's one record that will never be broken. Warren Spahn pitched 20 or more complete games for 13 straight seasons, and hardly anyone ever speaks of it.
different era... today starting pitchers rarely see the 7th inning for one reason or another. I don't remember the last time I saw a complete game. lotta pitchers have a shutout when they retire.. only to have the game lost by the pen. those kindsa things can get pretty depressing but it happens quite often with the way the game is played today.
Spahn was such a workhorse - 363 wins, a 20 game winner for 12 seasons, 382 complete games! Today's pitchers are wimps compared to the guy's of yesteryear. Today's pitchers are programmed to go 7 innings or 100 pitches, (whichever comes first), which means they psychologically start getting tired going into the 6th inning.
Ty Cobb's career batting average will also probably never be broken (.366). 7 MVP's by Barry Bonds seems pretty difficult. Ted Williams career OBP (.482) seems unbreakable; only 4 players who've played over the last 60 years have even cracked the top 25.
Yeah but those are rate stats. Some hot shot rookie could conceivably put up those numbers for a couple of years, get to the minimum required plate appearances to count their career rate numbers then suffer a career ending injury. No one's pitching 700 CG.
Two records that Ted Williams also holds which likely will never be broken. In 1949, he reached base in 84 consecutive games. In 1957, he reached base in 16 straight plate appearances. I think we will likely see Dimmagio's 56 game hitting streak broken before either of these records are broken.
Agreed. BTW, the day the Pete Rose's streak was broken he didn't see a single strike the entire game. The opposing team had announced in advance that they were going to stop the streak, so they just never gave him a hittable pitch.
I could see the 16 straight appearances at some point. Not the 84 games though. Baseball is weird enough that Yermin Mercedes a guy who didn’t make it through his rookie year started his career with 8.
One of my feelings, not really a thought, is sadness at the fact that we may never see another Game 7 complete game shutout again. The combined no-hitter by the Astros made me yearn for Jack Morris in '91 spinning all those masterful innings. It's hard to imagine a manager letting his starting pitcher finish a game now, let alone let him keep going into extras with his shutout. RIP the fantastic baseball of my 80s youth. :(
I watched that Twins game and Morris was amazing but time goes on. People who watched before us said the same thing about our era. Era's should be more appreciated than argued about in my opinion.
@@andrem.thomas332 I agree. I wish I was alive for many of baseball's eras. The only one I've lived through that I didn't really enjoy was the peak steroids era. This current one is alright, but I used to pitch, so I'm biased because I enjoy starting pitchers dominating and going deep into games.
@@johnnyeaton Bro I'm 44 and raised in Oakland. I remember watching Dave Stewart win 20 games a year repeatedly. If I'm not mistaken it was Glavine pitching against Morris that game 7. I'm just trying my best to not become the old guy always bringing up his era because I hated those guys.
There are so many solo home runs today and such low batting averages, Wilson's record seems safe. The Yankees have spent the past 5 years living on solo home runs.
@@edwardcook2973 They added 1 RBI to his record back about 20 years ago. Some sporting reporter noticed an error in one of the games box scores. For years it was 190 though.
@@MrVegasdeuce even with complete games, the second most is 4 which was from the 60s. Verlander only has 3, he is a work horse of a pitcher who's done this a long time. 39 years old. Even with combined no-hitters becoming a thing, it no one's gonna pass it if you include them.
Since this video came out before the 2023 rule changes, we have seen a 50+ steal season (and 60+ and 70+), but even with that, I think that Rickey Henderson's single season and career records (especially the career one) are still safe. Rickey had an ungodly combination of speed, reflexes, and game sense plus durability and longevity.
Since you had Pete Rose on there think about this: 4256 hits are crazy right? But someone one of these days will break that record compared to another record he has. At least 500 career starts at 5 different positions ( 1B, 2B, 3B, RF, and LF.) It will never be broken because players just aren't versatile like that anymore
tell you what that guy was a helluva player. he was a "slapstick" hitter. just get the ball over the first baseman's head! I used to watch him he hardly ever made an attempt to take a huge cut at anything. I mean when Bonds walked up there everybody KNEW he meant business. the pitcher (no matter who he was) was gonna get a hitting lesson. but not Rose. these guys were both great hitters.. but for entirely different reasons.
Nolan Ryan - 7 No-hitters Joe Dimaggio - 56-game hitting streak Rennie Stennett - 7 hits in a 9-inning game Ty Cobb - 54 steals of Home Cal Ripken, Jr - 2632 Consecutive games played
I love the thing rose said when asked should he be in the Hall of Fame, he said a player could hit 200 hits for 20 years and still be hundreds short of his record
On May 1, 1920 the Braves and Robins played at Boston in front of a crowd of 2,000 spectators. Joe Oeschger started for the Braves, and Leon Cadore started for the Robins. The game was eventually ruled a tie after 26 innings because of darkness. Oescheger only gave up 9 hits the entire game, while Cadore allowed 15. Both pitchers pitched the entire game, that will never happen again.
how about connie mack's managerial records . he has managed the most games [7,755] ,wins [3,731] , loses [3,948] , and he managed 1 team for 50 seasons . plus he's the only manager to wear a suit .
Watch the movie "42", Burt Shotten in 1947 wore a suit while managing the Dodgers after Leo Durocher was suspended for the season. Just happened to be Jackie Robinson's rookie year in the bigs for Brooklyn.
@@The_Loathsome what's hilariously horrible is that, while this is an extreme, Mansfield's bad enough to attempt something insane! I enjoy a faster paced game. But, c'mon! I hate the strategy taken out of being able to switch pitchers, pitching coaches calling infield meetings. Like, I get wanting to not change a pitcher every batter, but always allow it once per inning where a guy can be pulled after 1 batter THEN make the subsequent pitchers face at least 2.
@Jason Schwartz... I used to love watching super old black & white baseball games. As soon as the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher, hes winding up to throw again.. It was wayyy faster paced back then
@@generalbucknaked3080 yeah. I played pro ball for a couple of years. I'm 45 so it was a while ago lol. I hope that the pitch clock does it's job... Switching pitchers should be allowed regardless of batters faced. (I also say this as a guy who spent my first season and a half as a utility guy...sooo, I'm all about getting matchups and pinch hitters lol). But, yeah, the older games had a great pace to them. Some of it was because of pitcher dominance at one point. But, also because batters could HIT. As in, a lot fewer deep counts because they made better contact... Not sure l striking out to sell out for the homer. And, yeah, the pitchers definitely didn't waste time... Nor did the batters.
My candidate for an unbreakable record is Phil Knell's 54 hit batters in 1891. You know he had to have had a lot of near misses too. Nowadays, if any pitcher hit that many batters guys would be charging the mound right and left. Poor Phil wouldn't survive the season. He'd be beaten to a pulp.
@@GeraldM_inNC Not so much softer as just made of worse material. There were also way, WAY fewer ball substitutions, so that by the end of the game they were usually playing with something resembling a hackysack.
Plus pitchers could legally doctor the ball so much it made it a lot more unpredictable. Balls were cut with razor blades, substances put on them, scuffed, sand papered, shoe polished. Catchers really had to be sharp as they often couldn't predict where the damn thing would end up.
@@christopherkimber7679 I'm old enough to remember when Gehrig's record was routinely called "unbreakable". Heck, it was still being called unbreakable back when Ripkin passed Everett Scott's then 2nd place mark.
To break Ripken's record, would take 16 full 162-game seasons, with another 41 games on top of THAT. So, someone would need to play over a decade and a half, with no injuries, no suspensions, probably no midseason trades, no extended strikes or lockouts, and not even a single DNP-CD. GOOD. LUCK. With that.
Listening to this and trying to comprehend how these guys did this is just absolutely mind boggling. 7,000 innings and over 500 wins is just ridiculous to think about in the majors. Still am mind blown while writing this! Need more content like this!
@@stephenconnors7380 We don't know. Many in the old days rubbed dirt on it and played through many injuries. Today, they get a tweak and they go on the disabled list.
Satchel Page made Cy Young look like a short reliever in today's game. Dude basically could throw all day every day when he was young, and look like Nolan Ryan doing it.
@@n9wffwhoa, they really did that and rubbed dirt on their arms and it worked?! Wow. I'm speechless. I always wondered how they pitched so many times.
@@a.grimes4202Cy Young’s career decision record is 511-315… He was the pitcher of record 826 times. Nolan Ryan is in 3rd in all time losses (324-292), and the only one in the top 4 who was not born in the 1800s. But pitching 27 seasons, and only really getting hurt to end his career allowed him to pitch a long time… He also leads the MLB in career walks with 2,795, leading second place by over 900 (Steve Carlton).
I didn't know Eddie Collins laid down 512 bunts. That's staggering! I know it was the Dead Ball Era and teams had to scratch for runs - but man! Collins was a good hitter and to take his bat away that many times - astounding.
That one is fascinating. I remember when Jimmy Rollins of the Phillies got to 30-something games straight with a base hit, I was excited but he fell way short
Statistically this one will be broken, someday. As will Ted Williams' 84 consecutive games reaching base streak. It may take 100 years but the offensive game still plays enough like it did in the 40s for both records to fall. Just my opinion but it is the pitching records that are safer, without a paradigm shift.
Harry Chiti will almost certainly be the only major league player who got traded for himself. He was traded for a player to be named and eventually, he was the player to be named and thus sent back to his original team. Mariano Riveras ERA+ minimum 1,000 IP is probably untouchable or at least close to it.
Cal Ripken's consecutive game streak is good for eternity as well. That requires teams to participate in the process and they just won't do that; they won't let a player go that long without a day off and they'll cut the streak down before it ever even reaches 2 seasons worth.
I feel like 457 total bases in a single season by babe Ruth in 1921 will never be broken even when Barry bonds had 73 home runs in 2001 he was still 46 total base away
And both were hit off the same pitcher. That accomplishment will never be tied, let alone broken. For someone to break it, the minimum batters to come to the plate in the inning would be 22. That is never going to happen.
Tatis even hit both grand slams against Chan Ho Park in that inning. He became the second pitcher to allow two grand slams in one inning, joining Whoa Bill Phillips (1890) in the record books.
Good video. I like the methodology. Surprised that Nolan Ryan's 2,795 Walks is not on the list. Only 2 pitchers have passed 100 BB in season in the past 10 full years and no active pitcher even has 900 walks. I would think it would take someone 30+ years of leading the league to catch that one too.
A lot of that is modern hitters having much higher strike out rates compared to older players. They just all swing at so many bad pitches. Some of that is due to guys throwing harder forcing you to make a decision faster but a lot is due to bad plate discipline.
@@donpietruk1517a lot better pitching these days too. The average pitcher seems like has 5 different pitches in their arsenal, and that all have different variations of each other. Even just twenty years ago, average pitcher probably had like 3.
Love your channel! Never been a big stats guy, just loved playing and watching as a kid. Content like yours and trying to keep up with my son's stats, makes it a lot more interesting. Long live Baseball!
One record that seems breakable but I don't think ever will be broken is Hack Wilson's 191 RBIs in a season. The closest anyone has come in the last 90 years is Manny Ramirez in 1999 with 165, and he's #14 on the list. Everyone ahead of him was before 1938. It's probably a similar issue related to pitching; having to face fresh pitchers every few innings means fewer RBIs.
Well, I hear they will start using robot umps call balls and strikes next year. If R2D2 breaks the glass ceiling against robots, maybe cyborgs are next.
Young played during a time when baseball players came from lower class jobs, such as farmers. They were not professional star athletes like today. He probably would not last 2 innings in a modern era game of today, against real talented players.
Pete rose was a master of hitting on that old concrete type astroturf. He'd chop down at the ball for this giant bounce that he could beat out an infield hit. Can't do that on today's turf.
These vids are like drugs to me. Good stuff! I would've been interested to see what the list would look like if you just grouped all the dead ball era pitching records into the #1 spot, and then went all the way to #10.
By the end of Ripkins chase it had become a circus side show. He hurt his career and team by refusing to rest. Look at his BP and obp toward the end of the streak. If his dad wasn't the manager he would have been sat down.
Amazing video, the only thing i could say negatively is that you made it seem as if the change in pitching is more important than the workhorse nature of cy young and walter johnson. nolan ryan. three of the greatest workhorses EVER. will never be replicated. Your point was articulated very clearly but i didnt get the impression that you were impressed by walter johnson and cy young, and everybody should be.. amazing video
Another one: The 1991 Brewers went from 43-60 to 83-79; 17 games under .500 to an outright winning record, the most ever in the course of a single season. Nowadays if a team was 17 games under .500, they’d probably consider tanking, and have nothing to play for the rest of the season.
If you check the records at Cooperstown, you'll find that my ex brother- in- law holds the record for the youngest starting pitcher to start a major league baseball game. His name was Jim Derrington. He was 16 years old when he started several games for the Chicago White Sox in the mid 1950's. He signed a bonus contract out of South Gate high school in So Calif. In those days if you signed for a bonus, the parent club had to put you on the Major league team for the first month of your career, before being sent to the minors. The way things are done today, this record will never be broken.
I have an OOTP challenge coming up where I started with the Angels expansion in 1961 and tried to set as many career records by 2022. Should have that coming out in the next two weeks.
@@maldrinjr9629 Last out in the 4th inning, yes (although you have to have them pitch a full inning or the game will award the win to another reliever).
Great video and Great conversation about some of these records are not going to be broken. Cal Ripken Iron man streak, Joe Dimaggio 56 hitting streak, Ted Williams hitting 400. Before all star break
Why isn't Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive game record on this list? The amount of games, without missing any of them, for 16+ years is insane. He also surpassed Lou Gehrig's record by over 500 total consecutive games, which had stood for almost 60 years. It's insane not to mention this.
I've always wanted to run a Coke style simulation with having a tandem of pitchers split starts and relief appearances with each guy trying to go 3 innings before giving over to the bullpen. The idea being that the batters would rarely see the pitcher more than once a game. If the guys go go on 2 days rest, they'd each get 27 starts and 27 relief appearances where they'd pitch the 4-6th innings.
tony larussa actually tried it for a few weeks in 1991, but dropped it quickly when it didn't end up going too well (injuries played a part in him trying it). astros either did it or proposed doing it in their farm system around 2012-13 because gm at the time figured they had so many young arms, would be best way to get everyone work (don't think it lasted long if it happened, though).
For the stolen bases thing, I honestly believe there are people faster than Rickey in todays baseball, but they don’t have the acceleration that he had, he could go from 0% to 100% instantly and that’s something no one has ever seen befor
I'd say that the problem is because Blacks have abandoned baseball. Who were the stolen base leaders from the 1950s through the 1980? Overwhelmingly Black.
@@GeraldM_inNC well Rickey lead the league through the 2000s. So I guess your black statement needs to at least go until then. The game has changed entirely though. Wouldn't matter if it was nothing but Jamaicans base stealing is dead.
Micky Mantle was actually the fastest player in the game before his legs gave out. He could go from home to first in just under 3 seconds (2.9 secs per 90 feet). Ralph Garr is second on the list (3.06 per 90 feet).
It’s amazing to say this, but as a whole, Ricky Henderson is criminally underrated. The stolen bases aside, his runs scored and his sheer ability to create runs is otherworldly.
This and all of your other videos are amazing content! I just found you and instantly subscribed after the first vid I watched. Small nitpicking thing I noticed is that you said Kershaw would have to get 300 strikeouts for 19 seasons in a row to pass Nolan Ryan which unless I’m dumb or missing something is way off. It’s more like 14 seasons I think
@@BaseballsNotDead AHHH my fault I knew I’d probably misunderstood seeing you do your research and I did head math 😂 I thought the 19 seasons in a row was including all of kershaws strikeouts up to that point. Been binging your vids I mean it when I say they’re amazing
The Manfred runner in extra innings is the stupidest thing ever. Pure back yard "ghost runner" shenanigans; should have no place in MLB. I refer to it as the Manfred Abomination.
It inspired me to come up with a similar rule to prevent draws in championship chess tournaments. (The vast majority of chess games end in draws.) I proposed that one a draw is declared, each player received a new Queen and the game resumes. I figure that if baseball can do it, why not chess?
Randy Johnson came closer to Ryan's strikeout total than I thought. That's probably a reachable record, especially in a strikeout or homerun gun that baseball has devolved into. Ricky Henderson is safe as Vince Coleman retired a long time ago and no one else even considers stealing a base anymore.
@@brandonneumann5294 Good point. Yes, that is a collective philosophy that I wish the game would ditch real soon. They think they are saving arms, but it seems like pitchers are getting injurned as much or more than they used to while being pulled from games earlier and earlier. I've heard that the full time work out regiments are overstraining these guy's physiologies. The old timers would regularly throw complete games and win 25 plus games a season, but they didn't have time to work out all year long as they had to get regular jobs in the off season to suppliment a frugal baseball salary. They just got in shape real quick in spring training and that was it. Also, I think the old timers played with heart and love for the game. Players today play for the payday and not much else.
Wow I can’t believe u didn’t include Johnny Vandemeer he pitched 2 consecutive no hitters !! So to break the record a pitcher would have to pitch 3 no hitters in a row !! Trust it ain’t ever happening !!
Cal Ripkins's games started streak is never getting broken. TBH, Ripkin probably shouldn't even have the record in the first place. I think there was a point where he just went out there to keep the streak alive.
You are correct. His career batting average suffered because he would not rest himself. During the streak his average over a 100 game period was only .135. His dad was his manager and could of sat him down but didn't.
I wonder how many franchise records will never be broken because players move around so much. You still get a few guys like Yadier Molina and Derek Jeter and Chipper Jones who stay with one team, but most everyone else is going from team to team in trades and free agency.
The problem with ever breaking a lot of these records is you don't just need an ideal league atmosphere to do so in that encourages maximizing that needed skillset, but also an especially special player to be the one to do it. You take any hitter from today's game, anyone, and drop them in Pete Rose's era, have them hit the same way as players did back then, and I'm willing to bet Rose would still beat them by plenty, because he was just THAT good of a hitter. Likewise with stolen bases; Rickey Henderson was just next level talented, well beyond the talent level of your typical stolen base leader, regardless of how much the league runs as a whole. Half of Nolan Ryan's success at getting strikeouts was because he was able to stay healthy and effective for MUCH longer than most starters can be. Unless another player comes along that is that same level of '1-in-a-million' talent, no amount of rule changing, general play style changes or whatever can help those records being broken, it's simply not possible.
Ichiro has the most hits of any professional baseball player in history, just not the most hits in MLB and I considered Ichiro's record in the environment he was in in Japan and America to be just as valid as anyone else over their entire career in just MLB.
@@Dudewheresmycar189 That simpley is not true. Many minor league players are walk ons. They are not all drafted. Thus calling our minor leagues better players is laughable.
@@blu3collar949 lol there’s a very strong reason why japans players don’t even try to come to our minors lol that’s BecuAse our farm system is much much better than japans top league. Very very very few of japans top players could even barely make it in our minor league system.
Out of all the records here, I think shutouts could theoretically be broken. But they would to put up some monster seasons and also have 100% buy-in from the manager and team
Consecutive no hitters pitched. Johnny Vander Meer pitched no-hitters in two consecutive starts. There is no way anyone will pitch three no hitters in three consecutive starts. The most unbreakable record in baseball in my opinion.
Stolen bases are harder to accomplish now because of replay. If the runner comes off the base by a centimeter while the fielder is holding the tag in super slo-mo, it's an out.
The way they mishandle starting pitchers nowadays is a crime. Used to be that all 4 starters could pitch 8-9 innings right out of spring training. Now they are lucky to get 5 innings in their debut even if they are throwing a no-hitter.
They're throwing far too hard! The human arm is not designed to throw 100 mph fastballs. Only closers should be pitching that way. When starters pitch like relievers the result is short starts and sore arms. The great fastballers of the past saved their best fastball for special occasions. Guys like Ryan, Feller, Gibson were perfectly capable of throwing like DeGrom, but they knew it was suicidal and not to the team's benefit to do so.
Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell's record of 1527 (recorded) double plays turned by a 2B & SS. I say recorded because they played a few years before this stat started getting recorded and could have upwards of 1650 actual double plays turned. To me, I just can't see 2 players of their caliber being on the same team long enough to break that record.
Add Wainwright/Molina most games as battery mates, now. Both of them had to be on the same team, for a freakishly long time, to get that number. Between pitching every 4 or 5 starts, players getting rest they didn't used to, and the business of the game now a days, this one is all but sure to end when baseball does too. It's odd to say that though, since they just broke it this past year but there's every indication that it's instantly unbreakable.
Hack Wilson's 191 RBI (1930) & 159 RBI (1929), single season and 2 consecutive seasons' totals (154 game/season). I get it CAREER records, but these are remarkable considering the PED era and the rash of dingers hit by many individuals. Barry Bonds 2558 BB (career), 232 BB (2004). Joe Sewell 62.5 AB/K (career), 3 Ks (1930, 1932), BB:K ratio 7:39 (career), ~17:1 (1932)
It's fitting that 1 season after this video was posted, the MLB made the bases bigger, added the pitch clock, and limited pick offs in the regular season. Acuña stole 70 bases last season and with a new generation of hyper athletic freaks coming in. I can really see a new Renaissance for stealing. Maybe not 1980s level, but I can see several players getting to 30, 40, or 50+ stolen bases this current season. The record will be unbroken, Ricky just played to many years. Even if some player like Acuña stole 70 bags the next decade straight, he'd still need to play into his 40s to get withing 500 of Ricky. Ricky attempted 1700 steals. Juan Soto got on base around 280 times last season. Subtract triples and HRs and he would have in theory around 250 chances to steal with ideal conditions. But he batted 2-4 with the Padres. Half of those chances weren’t chances cause someone was a base ahead of him. Juan Soto likely had around 150 actual stealing chances. He'd need to replicate thos 12 seasons in a row and steal every single time to reach Ricky's attempts
Elly De La Cruz is one such person who is going to steal a lot of bases. I agree that Rickey’s record is unbreakable, but if you’re looking for another player that might could approach 1000, he could do it.
Ichiro came into the MLB as a 30 year old rookie and still got 3000 hits; I absolutely believe he clears the hit record had he played over here his entire career.
@@BaseballsNotDead practically pushing 30 you know what I meant; but I still believe he comes close. Maybe in another lifetime they combine career total hits across all professional leagues.
What really keeps these pitching records from being broken is the obsession with pitch count. Starters get pulled no matter how well they're doing when they approach 100 pitches in a game. It would be interesting if we knew what kind of pitch counts Cy Young and Walter Johnson racked up in their games. I'm sure Christy Mathewson and Grover Alexander were never pulled purely because of pitch count in their games either.
@@BootJarhead Today's pitchers seem to be afraid to put the ball in play. They think they have to strike out everybody instead of letting their teammates take care of business.
In turn, the obsession with pitch counts arises from pitchers throwing far too hard. The fastballers of the past only pulled out their best gas when it was necessary -- they wanted to go 9 innings and carefully paced themselves. I remember Tom Seaver, he used to get stronger and stronger as the game went along. Starters now are trying to pitch the way closers do -- 100 mile fastballs most of their pitches. They're lucky to finish five innings and they're more likely to blow out their arms. DeGrom is a perfect example.
When dealing with baseball stats, my line of demarcation has always been 1930. I know that ignores most of Babe Ruth's career, but Cy Young's career disappears as well. Comparing baseball statistics throughout the years is hard, but including early baseball records involves too much guesswork to be believable at all.
A record i think that will never be Broken is Ichiros hits in a season record. 1). Batting averages arent as coveted in today's game as much as they were. 2). Players dont play 162 games alot anymore, which is probably what it would take. 3). The person that has come close to Ichiros record of 262 hits in 2004, was Ichiro with 238 in 2007. Besides Ichiro, the closest player since has been Jose Altuve with 225 in 2014. 4). This record would require RIDICULOUS consistency across the season. No extended hitless streaks AT ALL. It would probably take ALOT of 3/4/5 hit games.
I expected the insanity of Ricky Henderson's and Nolan Ryan's records, but for as much of a clown as he could be and is, Pete Rose was amazing. He can make all the bets and consume all the substances he wants, I'll still love the guy.
Considering that Ichiro's combined Japanese and MLB hits total was greater than Rose's and Japan has shorter seasons, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that if he had started in MLB at age 20, he would have beaten Rose with some room to spare.
This is the record which will never be broken: Johnny Vander Meer's Two Consecutive No-Hitters. A pitcher would need to pitch three consecutive no hitters to break this record
yeah, but they keep trying!
@@samuelmoulds1016 you haven’t seen two yet let alone three . This is the one record that will never be broken . One good reason ,today’s pitchers are pussys .
A highschool kid in Texas pitched 7 consectutive no-hitters several years back. I wonder what ever happened to him.
@@blu3collar949 Your talking about high school .what’s that got to do with anything? There’s been hundreds of kids that look like the Hall of Fame will never hold them and they wind up in the crapper . The pressure gets greater and greater as you climb the ladder . This kid from Texas hopefully got a good education and went on to live a normal life .
Agree 100%.
Robin Ventura getting 7 hits from Nolan Ryan in 1 AB will never be broken...
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ahHHHH HAHAHAHA! That took me a hot second but damn, that's harsh but very very very funny.
WINNER! WINNER! CHICKEN DINNER!
Now there's a stat he can be proud of!
Cal Ripken's 2632 consecutive games record will NEVER be broken.
The fact that it's not on this list is absurd.
I was gonna comment the EXACT same thing...I thought for SURE that would be number 1... not even an honorable mention
i know right? people and their dumb lists, which aren't even good lists. At 2600+ games, the closest anyone has gotten since that record is about 1100
I cannot believe Ripken’s streak is not in the list. It would over 16 years playing all 162 games per year to break the record. Not happening!
I would hope they left it off because its automatically a concensus choice as one to never be broken..........i hope thats why🤷
He replaced Lou Gehrig for that record. People always for decades said the same thing that you did about Ripken that Gehrig's consecutive game streak would NEVER be broken. They were wrong.
I would put Nolan Ryan's 7 career no hitters in the class of unbreakable records, as pitchers getting complete games are rare enough. Others include Ty Cobb's career batting average and Cal Ripken's consecutive games played.
I would agree because Ryan is the best ball player ever IMO, but one day an absolute savage could come in and throw multiple no-nos over several seasons. Most if not all of the records on this list are things you can only accomplish over a long career while staying healthy just about the entire time.
I disagree. 7 no-hitters are probably one of the easier ones to break. Verlander has 3 which makes him tied for third place all-time. Which is pretty good in the context of these other records. No-hitters are up even with shutouts down.
yea but using the calculation in this video, it would take at most 7 years to get this record, cause theres atleast 1 no hitter every year
@@deathmetal11111 Easier? IMO Verlander is great just for having 3, but in no way does that mean getting twice as many plus one is "easy"... I just don't see it, as pitchers simply don't pitch as many innings and games as Ryan did in his day... well, I'll say this.... I'm 60, and no way in hell is that getting broken in my life-time... it would take a lot of luck too as both Ryan and the great Bob Feller had 12 one-hitters!
Those records are not sacred. They can be beaten. It just may be awhile before it happens.
Ted Williams career OBP of .482 is one of the most insane stats ive ever seen.
It aint all that
@@erichvonmanstein6876 okay dude. Thats literally almost on base every 2nd at bat.
@@zackaryhaselius2226 no its not kid. Its every PLATE APPEARANCE big difference .........."dude"🤨
@Erich Von Manstein
OBP is determined from both at bats and plate appearances. Also the specific outcomes of each. Look up the formula used.
It’s “approximately” equal to Times on Base/Plate Appearances.
@@erichvonmanstein6876 what the frick are you talking about? Im saying according to his OBP, Hes getting On-base almost 50% of the time. youre not making since.
Well, here's one record that will never be broken. Warren Spahn pitched 20 or more complete games for 13 straight seasons, and hardly anyone ever speaks of it.
different era... today starting pitchers rarely see the 7th inning for one reason or another. I don't remember the last time I saw a complete game. lotta pitchers have a shutout when they retire.. only to have the game lost by the pen. those kindsa things can get pretty depressing but it happens quite often with the way the game is played today.
Spahn and Sain, and two days of rain
Because it's not a record. Cy Young had 20+ complete games for 19 straight seasons. Walter Johnson did it for 16.
This is a season record though, not a career record... Not really eligible for the list
Spahn was such a workhorse - 363 wins, a 20 game winner for 12 seasons, 382 complete games! Today's pitchers are wimps compared to the guy's of yesteryear. Today's pitchers are programmed to go 7 innings or 100 pitches, (whichever comes first), which means they psychologically start getting tired going into the 6th inning.
Ty Cobb's career batting average will also probably never be broken (.366). 7 MVP's by Barry Bonds seems pretty difficult. Ted Williams career OBP (.482) seems unbreakable; only 4 players who've played over the last 60 years have even cracked the top 25.
Yeah but those are rate stats. Some hot shot rookie could conceivably put up those numbers for a couple of years, get to the minimum required plate appearances to count their career rate numbers then suffer a career ending injury. No one's pitching 700 CG.
Barry Bonds cheated his way in the record book. That's why he never got into the hall of fame
@@jonathancarroll941 He didn’t cheat. He didn’t get in because the dumbass voters snubbed him out of jealousy of his natural skill.
@@a.grimes4202 he did just like Mark McGuire and Jose Canseco. They all used steroids that's called cheating
@@jonathancarroll941 He never used steroids. You’re full of *🐂💩* .
Two records that Ted Williams also holds which likely will never be broken. In 1949, he reached base in 84 consecutive games. In 1957, he reached base in 16 straight plate appearances. I think we will likely see Dimmagio's 56 game hitting streak broken before either of these records are broken.
Agreed. BTW, the day the Pete Rose's streak was broken he didn't see a single strike the entire game. The opposing team had announced in advance that they were going to stop the streak, so they just never gave him a hittable pitch.
16 straight plate appearances will most likely be the first of theses records to go, simply because anyone can hot streak at any given time.
I could see the 16 straight appearances at some point. Not the 84 games though. Baseball is weird enough that Yermin Mercedes a guy who didn’t make it through his rookie year started his career with 8.
Facing a series of “wild pitchers” could definitely play a huge factor in reaching base in 16 consecutive plate appearances.
The 16 straight plate appearances reaching base has never been verified.
One of my feelings, not really a thought, is sadness at the fact that we may never see another Game 7 complete game shutout again. The combined no-hitter by the Astros made me yearn for Jack Morris in '91 spinning all those masterful innings. It's hard to imagine a manager letting his starting pitcher finish a game now, let alone let him keep going into extras with his shutout. RIP the fantastic baseball of my 80s youth. :(
I watched that Twins game and Morris was amazing but time goes on. People who watched before us said the same thing about our era. Era's should be more appreciated than argued about in my opinion.
@@andrem.thomas332 I agree. I wish I was alive for many of baseball's eras. The only one I've lived through that I didn't really enjoy was the peak steroids era. This current one is alright, but I used to pitch, so I'm biased because I enjoy starting pitchers dominating and going deep into games.
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Bro I'm 44 and raised in Oakland. I remember watching Dave Stewart win 20 games a year repeatedly. If I'm not mistaken it was Glavine pitching against Morris that game 7. I'm just trying my best to not become the old guy always bringing up his era because I hated those guys.
@@andrem.thomas332 I have loved hearing the generations before me talk about the baseball they grew up with. It's a nostalgia that I appreciate.
nah, some guy like Alcantra is gonna get put in that spot by some old school manager. Just give it like 20 years.
Hack Wilson’s 190 RBI in a season has always seemed unbreakable to me
He actually had 191 rbi's in 1930, not 190.
There are so many solo home runs today and such low batting averages, Wilson's record seems safe. The Yankees have spent the past 5 years living on solo home runs.
@@edwardcook2973 They added 1 RBI to his record back about 20 years ago. Some sporting reporter noticed an error in one of the games box scores. For years it was 190 though.
Could have added another Cy Young record to this list as well. He also holds the major league record for losses as well.
well he WAS a popular guy...
Who pitches both games of a double header now days? Think maybe he was.worn out a few of those times?
@@4ak458 He never pitched a night game. He never had to stay seated on overnight travel (sleeper cars on the train).
The Phil Coke experiment had me dying lmao I love how they chose him
Yeah, that experiment always stuck in my brain, even though it was only a small thing on Reddit.
Also unbreakable. 7 no-hitters by Nolan Ryan.
Nah I could do that
This one is also a lock. Not enough complete games anymore..
@@MrVegasdeuce even with complete games, the second most is 4 which was from the 60s. Verlander only has 3, he is a work horse of a pitcher who's done this a long time. 39 years old. Even with combined no-hitters becoming a thing, it no one's gonna pass it if you include them.
@@TexasSportsTV yep. You got it dude.
And Nolan Ryan’s 2,795 career walks is even more untouchable.
Since this video came out before the 2023 rule changes, we have seen a 50+ steal season (and 60+ and 70+), but even with that, I think that Rickey Henderson's single season and career records (especially the career one) are still safe. Rickey had an ungodly combination of speed, reflexes, and game sense plus durability and longevity.
Since you had Pete Rose on there think about this: 4256 hits are crazy right? But someone one of these days will break that record compared to another record he has. At least 500 career starts at 5 different positions ( 1B, 2B, 3B, RF, and LF.) It will never be broken because players just aren't versatile like that anymore
tell you what that guy was a helluva player. he was a "slapstick" hitter. just get the ball over the first baseman's head! I used to watch him he hardly ever made an attempt to take a huge cut at anything. I mean when Bonds walked up there everybody KNEW he meant business. the pitcher (no matter who he was) was gonna get a hitting lesson. but not Rose. these guys were both great hitters.. but for entirely different reasons.
and their managers won't make the stars move
I bet you're right. Also played his whole career as a complete a**hole.
@@whitneymacdonald4396 And? So? What does that have to do with anything?
Nolan Ryan - 7 No-hitters
Joe Dimaggio - 56-game hitting streak
Rennie Stennett - 7 hits in a 9-inning game
Ty Cobb - 54 steals of Home
Cal Ripken, Jr - 2632 Consecutive games played
Good stats
I love the thing rose said when asked should he be in the Hall of Fame, he said a player could hit 200 hits for 20 years and still be hundreds short of his record
wanna bet? lol
@@freddieknapp9337 Pete Rose would make that bet.
Rose would be somewhere between 6th and 9th(I forget where off the top of my head)on the all time hits list with just his singles alone.
@@davidmartinez52420 He would actually be 15th.
On May 1, 1920 the Braves and Robins played at Boston in front of a crowd of 2,000 spectators. Joe Oeschger started for the Braves, and Leon Cadore started for the Robins. The game was eventually ruled a tie after 26 innings because of darkness. Oescheger only gave up 9 hits the entire game, while Cadore allowed 15. Both pitchers pitched the entire game, that will never happen again.
how about connie mack's managerial records . he has managed the most games [7,755] ,wins [3,731] , loses [3,948] , and he managed 1 team for 50 seasons . plus he's the only manager to wear a suit .
he managed that team because he was part owner of the A's
Watch the movie "42", Burt Shotten in 1947 wore a suit while managing the Dodgers after Leo Durocher was suspended for the season. Just happened to be Jackie Robinson's rookie year in the bigs for Brooklyn.
You think Cy Young’s records are untouchable, but there’s a wild card. Rob Manfred shortening games to three innings in the name of pace of play
😂😂
@@The_Loathsome what's hilariously horrible is that, while this is an extreme, Mansfield's bad enough to attempt something insane!
I enjoy a faster paced game. But, c'mon! I hate the strategy taken out of being able to switch pitchers, pitching coaches calling infield meetings. Like, I get wanting to not change a pitcher every batter, but always allow it once per inning where a guy can be pulled after 1 batter THEN make the subsequent pitchers face at least 2.
@Jason Schwartz... I used to love watching super old black & white baseball games. As soon as the catcher throws the ball back to the pitcher, hes winding up to throw again.. It was wayyy faster paced back then
@@generalbucknaked3080 yeah. I played pro ball for a couple of years. I'm 45 so it was a while ago lol. I hope that the pitch clock does it's job... Switching pitchers should be allowed regardless of batters faced. (I also say this as a guy who spent my first season and a half as a utility guy...sooo, I'm all about getting matchups and pinch hitters lol).
But, yeah, the older games had a great pace to them. Some of it was because of pitcher dominance at one point. But, also because batters could HIT. As in, a lot fewer deep counts because they made better contact... Not sure l striking out to sell out for the homer. And, yeah, the pitchers definitely didn't waste time... Nor did the batters.
Fell off my chair laughing. Manfreddy has it as an option I'm sure! 😁😁
My candidate for an unbreakable record is Phil Knell's 54 hit batters in 1891. You know he had to have had a lot of near misses too. Nowadays, if any pitcher hit that many batters guys would be charging the mound right and left. Poor Phil wouldn't survive the season. He'd be beaten to a pulp.
Was the ball softer?
@@GeraldM_inNC Not so much softer as just made of worse material. There were also way, WAY fewer ball substitutions, so that by the end of the game they were usually playing with something resembling a hackysack.
Plus pitchers could legally doctor the ball so much it made it a lot more unpredictable. Balls were cut with razor blades, substances put on them, scuffed, sand papered, shoe polished. Catchers really had to be sharp as they often couldn't predict where the damn thing would end up.
And I don’t reckon they were throwing 100 mph!
Cal Ripken Jr was straight games. His record is safe.
Yep
100%
Absolutely. Iron man’s record is safe.
@@christopherkimber7679 I'm old enough to remember when Gehrig's record was routinely called "unbreakable". Heck, it was still being called unbreakable back when Ripkin passed Everett Scott's then 2nd place mark.
To break Ripken's record, would take 16 full 162-game seasons, with another 41 games on top of THAT.
So, someone would need to play over a decade and a half, with no injuries, no suspensions, probably no midseason trades, no extended strikes or lockouts, and not even a single DNP-CD.
GOOD. LUCK. With that.
Listening to this and trying to comprehend how these guys did this is just absolutely mind boggling. 7,000 innings and over 500 wins is just ridiculous to think about in the majors. Still am mind blown while writing this! Need more content like this!
And Young did it without suffering an arm injury too.
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We don't know. Many in the old days rubbed dirt on it and played through many injuries.
Today, they get a tweak and they go on the disabled list.
Satchel Page made Cy Young look like a short reliever in today's game. Dude basically could throw all day every day when he was young, and look like Nolan Ryan doing it.
@@n9wffwhoa, they really did that and rubbed dirt on their arms and it worked?! Wow. I'm speechless. I always wondered how they pitched so many times.
316 career losses by Cy Young. Due to pitcher usage and players being on a shorter leash.
You could break that if the manger refuses to give you up lol
316? *WHAT?!*
By extension, career decisions is also a record owned by Cy Young that will never be broken
@@a.grimes4202Cy Young’s career decision record is 511-315… He was the pitcher of record 826 times.
Nolan Ryan is in 3rd in all time losses (324-292), and the only one in the top 4 who was not born in the 1800s.
But pitching 27 seasons, and only really getting hurt to end his career allowed him to pitch a long time…
He also leads the MLB in career walks with 2,795, leading second place by over 900 (Steve Carlton).
@@jackaltwinky77 I was just making a stupid joke.
Bobby Cox with 158 career managerial ejections will never be broken as long as video review is around.
Braves fan? Lol I am, Went to 4 Braves games, He got ejected from 3 of those, swear
Loved watching Rickey turn walks into triples, and thoroughly messing with a pitchers head.
I remember back in 1973 Yankees where Chicago White Sox Ace Wilbur Wood started both games of a double header against the New York Yankees
Wood was a knuckleballer. He only threw the ball 55 to 60 miles and hour. His fastball was only 76MPH. LOL. Pretty hard to hurt your arm like that.
That wasn’t uncommon, there was a pitcher for the Dodgers who came close to pitching a complete doubleheader.
I didn't know Eddie Collins laid down 512 bunts. That's staggering!
I know it was the Dead Ball Era and teams had to scratch for runs - but man! Collins was a good hitter and to take his bat away that many times - astounding.
Nolan Ryans 7 No-hitters thrown. Thats so amazing its stupid.
Koufax only pitched 13 years, Had 5 no hitters, believe 1 was a perfect game, Ryan pitched 26 years
Jack Taylor completed 187 consecutive games he started between 1901 and 1906.
Joe DiMaggio hit safe in 56 straight games will not be broken
That one is fascinating. I remember when Jimmy Rollins of the Phillies got to 30-something games straight with a base hit, I was excited but he fell way short
81 years and no one has gotten closer than Pete Rose did with 44. That one is pretty safe.
Thats not really that big of a record, theres already been 6 dudes that got 40+ streaks. Just give it some time. This will be broke.
Statistically this one will be broken, someday. As will Ted Williams' 84 consecutive games reaching base streak.
It may take 100 years but the offensive game still plays enough like it did in the 40s for both records to fall.
Just my opinion but it is the pitching records that are safer, without a paradigm shift.
@@nextgencowboy1369 thank you
Harry Chiti will almost certainly be the only major league player who got traded for himself. He was traded for a player to be named and eventually, he was the player to be named and thus sent back to his original team.
Mariano Riveras ERA+ minimum 1,000 IP is probably untouchable or at least close to it.
Cal Ripken's consecutive game streak is good for eternity as well. That requires teams to participate in the process and they just won't do that; they won't let a player go that long without a day off and they'll cut the streak down before it ever even reaches 2 seasons worth.
I feel like 457 total bases in a single season by babe Ruth in 1921 will never be broken even when Barry bonds had 73 home runs in 2001 he was still 46 total base away
Fernando Tatis's 2 grand slams in one inning is up there, imo.
And both were hit off the same pitcher. That accomplishment will never be tied, let alone broken. For someone to break it, the minimum batters to come to the plate in the inning would be 22. That is never going to happen.
Good one!
How about 6 grand slams in one season? Don Mattingly.
Tatis even hit both grand slams against Chan Ho Park in that inning. He became the second pitcher to allow two grand slams in one inning, joining Whoa Bill Phillips (1890) in the record books.
Good video. I like the methodology. Surprised that Nolan Ryan's 2,795 Walks is not on the list. Only 2 pitchers have passed 100 BB in season in the past 10 full years and no active pitcher even has 900 walks. I would think it would take someone 30+ years of leading the league to catch that one too.
A lot of that is modern hitters having much higher strike out rates compared to older players. They just all swing at so many bad pitches. Some of that is due to guys throwing harder forcing you to make a decision faster but a lot is due to bad plate discipline.
@@donpietruk1517a lot better pitching these days too. The average pitcher seems like has 5 different pitches in their arsenal, and that all have different variations of each other. Even just twenty years ago, average pitcher probably had like 3.
Love your channel! Never been a big stats guy, just loved playing and watching as a kid. Content like yours and trying to keep up with my son's stats, makes it a lot more interesting. Long live Baseball!
Thanks!
One record that seems breakable but I don't think ever will be broken is Hack Wilson's 191 RBIs in a season. The closest anyone has come in the last 90 years is Manny Ramirez in 1999 with 165, and he's #14 on the list. Everyone ahead of him was before 1938. It's probably a similar issue related to pitching; having to face fresh pitchers every few innings means fewer RBIs.
When they allow cyborgs to play, you'll start to see some of these records fall.
Well, I hear they will start using robot umps call balls and strikes next year. If R2D2 breaks the glass ceiling against robots, maybe cyborgs are next.
Babe Ruth to umpire who just called him out looking on a Walter Johnson fastball. "I think it sounded low."
Could you imagine witnessing Cy Young's pitching first hand and not realizing at the time the pure legend behind what you were seeing?
There are MLB player now that you don't realize what you are seeing.
Young played during a time when baseball players came from lower class jobs, such as farmers. They were not professional star athletes like today. He probably would not last 2 innings in a modern era game of today, against real talented players.
He's just lucky child solicitation laws were lax bak then.
Never won the Cy Young though.
@@schmipps1239 He married his sister though. Had two little water headed babies.
Pete rose was a master of hitting on that old concrete type astroturf. He'd chop down at the ball for this giant bounce that he could beat out an infield hit.
Can't do that on today's turf.
Man, I didn't even think about that but it makes sense. Shows you how smart and talented he was.
Maybe 5% of his hits were infield hits. I chiron had over 100 in one season.
In the dead-ball era that was called the "Baltimore Chop".
Bob Gibsons season ERA of 1.12 will never be broken .
These vids are like drugs to me. Good stuff! I would've been interested to see what the list would look like if you just grouped all the dead ball era pitching records into the #1 spot, and then went all the way to #10.
Here ya go...
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Although anything at 19 years or less I'd consider possibly reachable by somebody in the future.
Ty Cobb's career batting average, Nolan Ryan's no hitters are two more that will never be broken
Cal Ripken’s record will never be close to being broken based off of current standard of baseball.
There were games he only played an inning or two . The rules don’t say you had to play nine innings every time you started a game .
By the end of Ripkins chase it had become a circus side show. He hurt his career and team by refusing to rest. Look at his BP and obp toward the end of the streak. If his dad wasn't the manager he would have been sat down.
It’s kinda crazy that 100 years from now, people will still be talking about these legends.
True because 120 years after Cy Young we are still talking about him
@@brentvance3958 IKR! If you have those records, you will exist until the very sport of baseball dies.
Sure. If humans still walk the earth
Amazing video, the only thing i could say negatively is that you made it seem as if the change in pitching is more important than the workhorse nature of cy young and walter johnson. nolan ryan. three of the greatest workhorses EVER. will never be replicated. Your point was articulated very clearly but i didnt get the impression that you were impressed by walter johnson and cy young, and everybody should be.. amazing video
That triples record is unreal.
Another one: The 1991 Brewers went from 43-60 to 83-79; 17 games under .500 to an outright winning record, the most ever in the course of a single season.
Nowadays if a team was 17 games under .500, they’d probably consider tanking, and have nothing to play for the rest of the season.
brooks Robinson's 16 consecutive gold gloves will never be broken. that is as safe as Cal's consecutive game streak and cy young's win total.
I live in New York and I think I see another trip to Cooperstown this summer. Love going there, you see something different every time.
If you check the records at Cooperstown, you'll find that my ex brother- in- law holds the record for the youngest starting pitcher to start a major league baseball game. His name was Jim Derrington. He was 16 years old when he started several games for the Chicago White Sox in the mid 1950's. He signed a bonus contract out of South Gate high school in So Calif. In those days if you signed for a bonus, the parent club had to put you on the Major league team for the first month of your career, before being sent to the minors. The way things are done today, this record will never be broken.
I'm thinking about starting an OOTP save with the sole goal of breaking the all-time sac hits record. Thanks for the inspiration!
I have an OOTP challenge coming up where I started with the Angels expansion in 1961 and tried to set as many career records by 2022. Should have that coming out in the next two weeks.
@@BaseballsNotDead Can't wait to see it! I assume you have a reliever that will go in almost every game while winning for the last out?
@@maldrinjr9629 Last out in the 4th inning, yes (although you have to have them pitch a full inning or the game will award the win to another reliever).
@@BaseballsNotDead Oh I meant on top of going for the win, going for the career records for games finished and saves
Starting Pitcher Old Hoss Radbourn's 60 wins in one season will NEVER be broken.
Great video and Great conversation about some of these records are not going to be broken. Cal Ripken Iron man streak, Joe Dimaggio 56 hitting streak, Ted Williams hitting 400. Before all star break
I think career IBB is also unbreakable, but your methodology would have brought in some of Bonds insane years since they were more recent.
Hank Aaron's record for total bases will never be broken.
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Pujols was 600+ short of the record. I think it can be done one day
The closest current player is Miguel Cabrera. In a twenty year career he comes up short of Aaron by 1606 bases. That's 27 miles. So yeah, it stands.
Why isn't Cal Ripken Jr's 2,632 consecutive game record on this list? The amount of games, without missing any of them, for 16+ years is insane. He also surpassed Lou Gehrig's record by over 500 total consecutive games, which had stood for almost 60 years. It's insane not to mention this.
Because the video was on career counting stats, not streaks.
@@BaseballsNotDead Oh I see. Thanks for clarification! Still I enjoy the videos. Sorry that my comment sounded harsh. Lol
I've always wanted to run a Coke style simulation with having a tandem of pitchers split starts and relief appearances with each guy trying to go 3 innings before giving over to the bullpen. The idea being that the batters would rarely see the pitcher more than once a game. If the guys go go on 2 days rest, they'd each get 27 starts and 27 relief appearances where they'd pitch the 4-6th innings.
tony larussa actually tried it for a few weeks in 1991, but dropped it quickly when it didn't end up going too well (injuries played a part in him trying it).
astros either did it or proposed doing it in their farm system around 2012-13 because gm at the time figured they had so many young arms, would be best way to get everyone work (don't think it lasted long if it happened, though).
For the stolen bases thing, I honestly believe there are people faster than Rickey in todays baseball, but they don’t have the acceleration that he had, he could go from 0% to 100% instantly and that’s something no one has ever seen befor
I'd say that the problem is because Blacks have abandoned baseball. Who were the stolen base leaders from the 1950s through the 1980? Overwhelmingly Black.
@@GeraldM_inNC well Rickey lead the league through the 2000s. So I guess your black statement needs to at least go until then. The game has changed entirely though. Wouldn't matter if it was nothing but Jamaicans base stealing is dead.
Micky Mantle was actually the fastest player in the game before his legs gave out. He could go from home to first in just under 3 seconds (2.9 secs per 90 feet). Ralph Garr is second on the list (3.06 per 90 feet).
Mantle was faster than anyone going from home to first base .
It’s amazing to say this, but as a whole, Ricky Henderson is criminally underrated. The stolen bases aside, his runs scored and his sheer ability to create runs is otherworldly.
He didn't get in the HOF just by stealing bases. He's not underrated. Not everything that's ever happened is cRimInAlLy uNdeRraTeD
Somebody has an issue with Comprehension
@@thegodfatheroftoys3349 Don't rat yourself out
I would love to see another Rickey Henderson...
This and all of your other videos are amazing content! I just found you and instantly subscribed after the first vid I watched. Small nitpicking thing I noticed is that you said Kershaw would have to get 300 strikeouts for 19 seasons in a row to pass Nolan Ryan which unless I’m dumb or missing something is way off. It’s more like 14 seasons I think
Was saying any pitcher would have to get 300 strikeouts for 19 season in a row (that comes to 5,700... Ryan's record is 5,714).
@@BaseballsNotDead AHHH my fault I knew I’d probably misunderstood seeing you do your research and I did head math 😂 I thought the 19 seasons in a row was including all of kershaws strikeouts up to that point. Been binging your vids I mean it when I say they’re amazing
Kershaw is ready for pasture , most likely be his last season. A very outstanding pitcher and a not very good one in the Postseason.
The Manfred runner in extra innings is the stupidest thing ever. Pure back yard "ghost runner" shenanigans; should have no place in MLB. I refer to it as the Manfred Abomination.
It inspired me to come up with a similar rule to prevent draws in championship chess tournaments. (The vast majority of chess games end in draws.) I proposed that one a draw is declared, each player received a new Queen and the game resumes. I figure that if baseball can do it, why not chess?
Randy Johnson came closer to Ryan's strikeout total than I thought. That's probably a reachable record, especially in a strikeout or homerun gun that baseball has devolved into.
Ricky Henderson is safe as Vince Coleman retired a long time ago and no one else even considers stealing a base anymore.
It’s not a reachable record because pitchers don’t throw as many innings as they used to.
@@brandonneumann5294 Good point.
Yes, that is a collective philosophy that I wish the game would ditch real soon.
They think they are saving arms, but it seems like pitchers are getting injurned as much or more than they used to while being pulled from games earlier and earlier.
I've heard that the full time work out regiments are overstraining these guy's physiologies.
The old timers would regularly throw complete games and win 25 plus games a season, but they didn't have time to work out all year long as they had to get regular jobs in the off season to suppliment a frugal baseball salary.
They just got in shape real quick in spring training and that was it.
Also, I think the old timers played with heart and love for the game.
Players today play for the payday and not much else.
Love these videos! Keep them up!
Thanks! Will do!
Great video. Good to know baseball isn't dead, I keep hearing it doesn't exist.
Wow I can’t believe u didn’t include Johnny Vandemeer he pitched 2 consecutive no hitters !! So to break the record a pitcher would have to pitch 3 no hitters in a row !! Trust it ain’t ever happening !!
Johnny Vander Meer .
Can you imagine a pitcher even throwing 3 complete games in a row let alone 3 no hitters
Cal Ripkins's games started streak is never getting broken. TBH, Ripkin probably shouldn't even have the record in the first place. I think there was a point where he just went out there to keep the streak alive.
You are correct. His career batting average suffered because he would not rest himself. During the streak his average over a 100 game period was only .135. His dad was his manager and could of sat him down but didn't.
I wonder how many franchise records will never be broken because players move around so much. You still get a few guys like Yadier Molina and Derek Jeter and Chipper Jones who stay with one team, but most everyone else is going from team to team in trades and free agency.
Great work!! Thank you for your hard work figuring this out. God bless.
The problem with ever breaking a lot of these records is you don't just need an ideal league atmosphere to do so in that encourages maximizing that needed skillset, but also an especially special player to be the one to do it. You take any hitter from today's game, anyone, and drop them in Pete Rose's era, have them hit the same way as players did back then, and I'm willing to bet Rose would still beat them by plenty, because he was just THAT good of a hitter. Likewise with stolen bases; Rickey Henderson was just next level talented, well beyond the talent level of your typical stolen base leader, regardless of how much the league runs as a whole. Half of Nolan Ryan's success at getting strikeouts was because he was able to stay healthy and effective for MUCH longer than most starters can be. Unless another player comes along that is that same level of '1-in-a-million' talent, no amount of rule changing, general play style changes or whatever can help those records being broken, it's simply not possible.
Ichiro has the most hits of any professional baseball player in history, just not the most hits in MLB and I considered Ichiro's record in the environment he was in in Japan and America to be just as valid as anyone else over their entire career in just MLB.
Eh, minor leagues are still professional and if you add Rose's minor league numbers versus Ichiro's MLB+NPB is comes out ahead.
@@BaseballsNotDead our minor leagues are also tougher than japans top league
@@Dudewheresmycar189 That simpley is not true. Many minor league players are walk ons. They are not all drafted. Thus calling our minor leagues better players is laughable.
@@blu3collar949 lol there’s a very strong reason why japans players don’t even try to come to our minors lol that’s BecuAse our farm system is much much better than japans top league. Very very very few of japans top players could even barely make it in our minor league system.
Out of all the records here, I think shutouts could theoretically be broken. But they would to put up some monster seasons and also have 100% buy-in from the manager and team
When Cabrera retires, there may be a Long wait before there's another 3000 hit guy, let alone 4000.
Rogers Hornsby, over a 5 year span, averaged over .400. 1 year hitting .424. Who knows. Now that the shift has ended. You never know….
1,406 stolen bases over 20 years is 52 a season! My god!
Untouchable.
Actually, it’s 70 steals a season!
Consecutive no hitters pitched.
Johnny Vander Meer pitched no-hitters in two consecutive starts.
There is no way anyone will pitch three no hitters in three consecutive starts. The most unbreakable record in baseball in my opinion.
Stolen bases are harder to accomplish now because of replay. If the runner comes off the base by a centimeter while the fielder is holding the tag in super slo-mo, it's an out.
The way they mishandle starting pitchers nowadays is a crime. Used to be that all 4 starters could pitch 8-9 innings right out of spring training. Now they are lucky to get 5 innings in their debut even if they are throwing a no-hitter.
They're throwing far too hard! The human arm is not designed to throw 100 mph fastballs. Only closers should be pitching that way. When starters pitch like relievers the result is short starts and sore arms. The great fastballers of the past saved their best fastball for special occasions. Guys like Ryan, Feller, Gibson were perfectly capable of throwing like DeGrom, but they knew it was suicidal and not to the team's benefit to do so.
Lou Whitaker and Alan Trammell's record of 1527 (recorded) double plays turned by a 2B & SS. I say recorded because they played a few years before this stat started getting recorded and could have upwards of 1650 actual double plays turned. To me, I just can't see 2 players of their caliber being on the same team long enough to break that record.
Travesty Lou is not in HOF
Add Wainwright/Molina most games as battery mates, now. Both of them had to be on the same team, for a freakishly long time, to get that number. Between pitching every 4 or 5 starts, players getting rest they didn't used to, and the business of the game now a days, this one is all but sure to end when baseball does too. It's odd to say that though, since they just broke it this past year but there's every indication that it's instantly unbreakable.
as a Cardinals fan, this makes me extremely happy to know two Cardinals are etched in eternity
@@GoddessOfWhim2003 and to have it be two amazing players and people, on top of them being Cardinals, is total icing on the cake.
Wow, great stat!
Hack Wilson's 191 RBI (1930) & 159 RBI (1929), single season and 2 consecutive seasons' totals (154 game/season). I get it CAREER records, but these are remarkable considering the PED era and the rash of dingers hit by many individuals.
Barry Bonds 2558 BB (career), 232 BB (2004).
Joe Sewell 62.5 AB/K (career), 3 Ks (1930, 1932), BB:K ratio 7:39 (career), ~17:1 (1932)
Cal ripkens consecutive game streak will never be broken
It's fitting that 1 season after this video was posted, the MLB made the bases bigger, added the pitch clock, and limited pick offs in the regular season.
Acuña stole 70 bases last season and with a new generation of hyper athletic freaks coming in. I can really see a new Renaissance for stealing. Maybe not 1980s level, but I can see several players getting to 30, 40, or 50+ stolen bases this current season.
The record will be unbroken, Ricky just played to many years. Even if some player like Acuña stole 70 bags the next decade straight, he'd still need to play into his 40s to get withing 500 of Ricky.
Ricky attempted 1700 steals. Juan Soto got on base around 280 times last season. Subtract triples and HRs and he would have in theory around 250 chances to steal with ideal conditions.
But he batted 2-4 with the Padres. Half of those chances weren’t chances cause someone was a base ahead of him. Juan Soto likely had around 150 actual stealing chances. He'd need to replicate thos 12 seasons in a row and steal every single time to reach Ricky's attempts
Elly De La Cruz is one such person who is going to steal a lot of bases. I agree that Rickey’s record is unbreakable, but if you’re looking for another player that might could approach 1000, he could do it.
TBS still showing every Braves games to this day...I don't know how many teams have been on the exact same station for 40+ years
SUPER Video ! THANKS FOR ALL YOUR HARD WORK ..'hats off toya"
1.12 ERA - Bob Gibson - 1968 - will never be broken. This should have made your list. No one has really come close.
Ichiro came into the MLB as a 30 year old rookie and still got 3000 hits; I absolutely believe he clears the hit record had he played over here his entire career.
He was 27 his rookie year.
@@BaseballsNotDead practically pushing 30 you know what I meant; but I still believe he comes close. Maybe in another lifetime they combine career total hits across all professional leagues.
Ryan's walk record will also never be touched.
Those pitching records are nearly all unbreakable (innings, ks, wins, etc).
The way they used pitchers was so differnt than today.
What really keeps these pitching records from being broken is the obsession with pitch count. Starters get pulled no matter how well they're doing when they approach 100 pitches in a game. It would be interesting if we knew what kind of pitch counts Cy Young and Walter Johnson racked up in their games. I'm sure Christy Mathewson and Grover Alexander were never pulled purely because of pitch count in their games either.
That and the pitchers were throwing in the 80s with a seamed ball. Throwing a pool ball at 100 mph isnt the best for your arm.
@@BootJarhead Today's pitchers seem to be afraid to put the ball in play. They think they have to strike out everybody instead of letting their teammates take care of business.
In turn, the obsession with pitch counts arises from pitchers throwing far too hard. The fastballers of the past only pulled out their best gas when it was necessary -- they wanted to go 9 innings and carefully paced themselves. I remember Tom Seaver, he used to get stronger and stronger as the game went along. Starters now are trying to pitch the way closers do -- 100 mile fastballs most of their pitches. They're lucky to finish five innings and they're more likely to blow out their arms. DeGrom is a perfect example.
When dealing with baseball stats, my line of demarcation has always been 1930. I know that ignores most of Babe Ruth's career, but Cy Young's career disappears as well. Comparing baseball statistics throughout the years is hard, but including early baseball records involves too much guesswork to be believable at all.
I see a lot of people using pre- and post-integration as dividing line separating two different eras of baseball.
ALL of the old time pitching records. Complete games, shutouts, innings pitched, wins.
you have the best intro to ever exist
Very good video, I am only a baseball novice but your video kept me watching the whole way through.
A record i think that will never be Broken is Ichiros hits in a season record. 1). Batting averages arent as coveted in today's game as much as they were. 2). Players dont play 162 games alot anymore, which is probably what it would take. 3). The person that has come close to Ichiros record of 262 hits in 2004, was Ichiro with 238 in 2007. Besides Ichiro, the closest player since has been Jose Altuve with 225 in 2014. 4). This record would require RIDICULOUS consistency across the season. No extended hitless streaks AT ALL. It would probably take ALOT of 3/4/5 hit games.
Might do a single season records one. Ichiro is definitely up there.
@@BaseballsNotDead a single season records video would be Dope.
Jamie Moyer went 22 years between hitting sacrifice flies.
I expected the insanity of Ricky Henderson's and Nolan Ryan's records, but for as much of a clown as he could be and is, Pete Rose was amazing. He can make all the bets and consume all the substances he wants, I'll still love the guy.
Considering that Ichiro's combined Japanese and MLB hits total was greater than Rose's and Japan has shorter seasons, I don't think it would be a stretch to say that if he had started in MLB at age 20, he would have beaten Rose with some room to spare.
I agree 100%. Afterall he broke the single season record for hits by George Sissler with 262. He was 30 at the time.
That will never be proven .