Moneyball: Explaining the numbers HD CLIP
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- What’s happening in this Moneyball movie clip?
Billy (Brad Pitt who also starred in Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Fight Club) and his team are reviewing their strategy. David (Stephen Bishop who also starred in Battleship and The Rundown) questions Peter's advice (Jonah Hill who also starred in The Wolf of Wall Street and Superbad).
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What’s the Moneyball movie about?
Billy Beane (Brad Pitt from Once Upon a Time in Hollywood and Fight Club), the general manager of the Oakland A’s and the guy who assembles the team, who has an epiphany: all of baseball’s conventional wisdom is wrong. Forced to reinvent his team on a tight budget, Beane will have to outsmart the richer clubs.
Despite opposition from the old guard, the media, fans and their own field manager (Philip Seymour Hoffman from The Hunger Games and The Big Lebowski), the onetime jock teams with Ivy League grad Peter Brand (Jonah Hill from The Wolf of Wall Street and Superbad) - a young, number-crunching, Yale-educated economist - in an unlikely partnership, recruiting bargain players that the scouts call flawed, but all of whom have an ability to get on base, score runs, and win games. It’s more than baseball, it’s a revolution - one that challenges old school traditions and puts Beane in the crosshairs of those who say he’s tearing out the heart and soul of the game.
Credits: © 2011 Columbia Pictures Industries, Inc. All Rights Reserved.
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With only a few words, Billy straight murders David’s ego, then rebuilds his confidence and brings enlightenment to his new purpose in baseball… what a truly amazing scene.
Yeah the screenwriter spent a long time planning that whole scene out.
Great scene
beautiful
dave had a right to have an ego. i rarely say this about anyone.
That what good leaders do.
I love the irony that baseball, who’s biggest fans bring their own stat keeping books to games, was resistant to analytics being used in the sport.
well they were not exactly refusing to look at stats, they were just hesitant to accept/acknowledge that they looked at the wrong stats all these years...
@@sksaddrakk5183 to some extent yeah. The biggest thing the movie got right was the BS “It Factor” scouts thought players needed. Baseball is the ultimate statisticians game, and now Moneyball is being used in sports around the world.
*It's not that they were resistant to them, it's that they didn't know them* . The world is 10x smarter when it comes to mathematics today than a century ago. Calculus was taught as a subject for the first time in school in the 1980's. I don't think people realize just how far people have advanced in math. In the 1950's "knowing math" meant that you could add numbers together without a calculator. In the 1950's, an "education" meant completing grade 8. In the past 70 years we've DOUBLED the number of years that kids are in school and we've increased the amount of math knowledge by an order of magnitude. If you take ANY college/university science student from TODAY and transport them back in time a few centuries, they're Einstein. Their knowledge would be so far advanced that they would be the smartest person on earth.
@@bobbypinkston9374 I do not know much about baseball (I am European). From other team sports I know though that there are some non statistic skills/traits that are equally important. In hockey for example it is by no means a guarantee to succeed if you assemble the best scorers/statistically best defenders. The 90s rangers are a prime example.
@@sksaddrakk5183 the thing is baseball is strictly a statistics game. Chemistry isn’t nearly as important as consistency, which the stats bear out. Your players don’t even necessarily need to work well together, because the game is functionally the batter vs the field. You could theoretically go your entire career as an outfielder without throwing to 1 position on the field, which would be the interaction. In other team sports, the interaction with teammates maters so much more. I think of players like Andrea Pirlo or Jordan Henderson as examples of players who the stats betray because they don’t score and assist a fair amount but aren’t pure chance creators. Their value is far more than stats can show. Baseball doesn’t have a single position like that.
"That's what the Yankees think of you. They're paying you $3.5 million to play against them." Ouch.
And to the Yankees, $3.5 million is like pocket change. He basically doesn't exist to them.
@@nahor88 What I like this scene is how Beane knocks Justice down, then brings him back up by asking him to be a leader.
@@ernestleong476 Well Justice started it, but he took the beating like a pro.
@@noobFPV And he got his free soda in the locker room.
I didn't get what he means here :/
I gotta be honest I'm not even a baseball fan but this movie was great.
I don't even understand baseball but sure enjoyed it
That’s why you enjoyed it lol
Great movie but terrible baseball movie
definitely great movie
It’s not about baseball it’s about mathematics.
I have never watched baseball, I don't know anything except the occasional views of it in a film, but I loved it, every second of this movie was amazing
"I wanna milk the last ounce of baseball you got in you."
Love that line.
It's brilliant.
that’s that sorkin shining out for ya
Hey yooo.
Pause
It really set up the next scene where you can see him put milk in his cereal
@@gregorymorales1 lmao, I'm telling ya ole Sorkin must be a mad genius!
David showed true character here. He listened to tough but constructive criticism and a hard reality check. He reasoned, accepted the logical conclusion and decided to act on it, all in a matter of seconds. Very few people are smart and humble enough. Especially not rich, succesful people.
Acting will make people show true character...in a movie. Do you actually think this happened?
@@roland7584 I'm just commenting the movie. But from what I heard, this movie didn't stray too far from reality. It would be understandable that they "synthetized" the sequence of events to make a more entertaining movie, improving rhythm. My guess would be that David probably resisted for a good while longer, but eventually accepted his new role/situation.
@@acharat6 David Justice confirmed this never happened, and Billy never had to talk to him to tell him what's up and where he stood with the team. It's also well known that they made Art Howe out to look like he was against the whole thing and butted heads with Billy and that's far from the truth too. I understand they had to adjust the sequence to allow it to flow better for a movie, but they didn't have to portray any personality different to satisfy the viewers. That's just dirty. I'm glad it was just a baseball movie, and not about how a war started or some political movie but we know they'll change facts in those too regardless of the effect on the viewers and what beliefs they may alter.
I read a quote once that basically said that if you say some incorrect information to someone who is truly smart, they usually won't immediately correct you. They will stop, process, and decide if the information fits within their understanding of the topic. If it doesn't, they will either explain why that is the case or ask for more information.
David processed and realised that the information being given to him was irrefutable. Initially, he was acting under certain information - his salary, which is almost always paid fully by the team the players play for. Once he was told an easily checkable fact about why it was the amount it was, he changed his behaviour to match the new information. That's the sign of a really smart person.
I’m guessing you know a lot of rich successful people to know?
That line, "No seriously, that's it." Too freaking funny. Love this movie.
@Baronarx V 100%
It's so funny but actually as an athlete myself, for me fear drives you to be more focused and concentrated. Fear of failure is not necessarily a weakness.
I wish they would have extended the end when he tells Hatteberg so good luck with that ".
It’s not really supposed to be funny. Yips is real in sports
@@jihadijohn9408 I'm not sure what "yips" means, but I do think that idea that an MLB first baseman who is actually afraid to have a grounder hit to him is pretty funny.
"What's your biggest fear?"
"The baseball being hit in my general direction."
Any person who has played baseball will understand this too well.
Why I was glad to play left field when I wasn't pitching 😅
Nobody wants to end being remembered for one bad play like Bill Buckner.
Yeah, the best frame of mind is to want or even ache for that ball to be hit to you. And be ready for a bullet. Then know what to do with it when it happens. You have to keep running possibilities through your head between pitches. But if you get moved to a new position, yeah it takes a little while to get comfortable. Played all 9 positions in baseball/ softball. I think 1st base was my least favorite.
@@mrvlsmrv Yep. Since childhood I loved the ball being hit at me. I wanted it. Make them pay for doing it. Coaches always put me at shortstop - loved it. Great game.
@@pjeffries301 yeah, shortstop was home for me. Played there the most. Brother I miss those days.
"Im not paying you for the player you used to be, I'm paying you for the player you're right now" bruh. So good
Ironically, in real life Billy Beane paid Justice for the player he used to be. He traded (to the Mets, not the Yankees) to acquire Justice, paid $5.8 (not $3.5) million of the $7 million contract, and signed him in hopes that he'd rebound to his 2000 form when he had a career high 41 HRs. It's a good movie line, but unfortunately it's too good to be true.
@@mrmacross
Not quite. The Yankees had agreed to pay half of Justice's $7 million salary for 2002 to whoever he played for. When the Mets flipped him to Oakland, that agreement still held. Justice got on base at an impressive . 376 clip in his final season as an Oakland Athletic, so Beane's gamble paid off.
@@kbanghart Beane was quoted as saying after the trade, "We feel like we've got a guy who's one year removed from being an MVP candidate.This is a guy who in my mind has the presence and the ability to hit in the No. 3 hole. David brings a certain swagger and a self-confidence that's hard to find in this game." So basically, he was hoping that Justice would rebound a bit to his 2000 form.
I tried finding the details of the Yankees/Mets trade but I couldn't find anything about the money exchanging hands. However, the ESPN article I grabbed the above quote from mentioned the $1.2 million the Mets agreed to pay and nothing about the amount NYY said they'd pay. Also, the New York Times printed, "Justice, 35, may not appear in a game for the Mets, who may try to trade him to another team in order to dump his $7 million salary and create budget room for another outfielder, like the free agent Roger Cedeño."
Not saying you're wrong, but I just can't find info saying the Yankees paid $3.5 M (or any dollar amount) to get rid of Justice.
@@mrmacross Beane would never go on record saying something like "Yeah he's old and slow now but we think he can still contribute." Like the scout said in the earlier scene, Justice was a big name and was still a draw at the box office. Of course they're going to try and spin it as the team landing a star.
@@raggededge82 IMO, it's probably more likely that Beane thought that Justice would have a bounce-back season than Beane humbling Justice the way it happened in the movie. David Justice once was quick to point out that not every scene in the movie was real, and I'm guessing he had this scene in mind.
It's a great line in a movie, but it's just a line in the movie.
I think D Justice saying we're cool and immediately connecting with S Hattenberg is to be applauded. It's very hard for someone to come in grasp of his role in an organisation, especially a diminished role.
ted lasso did a simiar bit with roy
No necessarily diminished, just different. Billy basically says it right before this: “I don’t want you for the player you were, I want you for the player you are.” He knows that David has the fundamental skills, but also isn’t going to be a Diva on the team.
The real David Justice says that never happened. He knew from the star that he was in his last year. He didn't need Billy to tell him any of that baloney. David was on board with the moneyball ideas and did not have such a prima donna attitude.
@@porcupinecraig Movies make everyone believe in things that never happened. Rumor has it that some people want some divers to go into the ocean to find Jack Dawson still clinging to that piece of wood.
@@porcupinecraigThere obviously had to be (earlier) moments where Justice learned about the facts of the deal, and about Beane's view of his role and the team project. For the sake of schooling the _audience,_ they are all conflated here. Almost every movie depicting real events has narrative compression like this, when there are elements of a character's psyche that need explanation, for audiences to understand their role in the story, and showing is better than telling, but you don't have time to show _everything_ in the order and pace it actually happened.
"No, seriously. That is." LOL
Makes me laugh every time. So awkward
Clip left out the best, last line: “ Good luck with that...!”
@@cleatusbarncoat8642 Yes!
Chris Pratt looks so weird being in this movie now.
That’s so crazy. I watched this movie and all the chris pratt avengers movies several times, and i am just now realizing he was in this movie
Starlord learned baseball
He looks so weird but somehow so in place. It's quintessential baseball.
Chris Pratt was perfectly casted for this role, he genuinely looked like a man in distraught trying to stay positive about his career ending injury
I was expecting him saying that he chased a truck around finding out it wasn't a ice cream truck.
It's funny that Chris Pratt was thin before getting fat as Andy Dwyer before thinning out again for Star Lord.
@Nameless Hero Stan I don't think Andy was fat on purpose. Lol
He actually started working out to be in Zero Dark Thirty
And all he did was stop drinking beer
this wasn't before parks and rec by very much
@@Charlezard. Actually he was. Chris gave an interview where he said he and Nick were told not to be in too good a shape. They wanted guys with a bit of chub for those roles.
Why cut it there? Three seconds more and you get one of the best lines in the movie when Justice replies "Good luck with that".
Said the same thing lol
I LOVE "Well, good luck with that!"
"Well hey, good luck with that!"
😂
Yea idk why they missed out those last 5 seconds come on
@@harryhartstone2254 They missed it out because the don´t know jack about buildup, scenes and character development.
Hey, they cut the best line in the movie!
Incredibly well casted, directed, and acted all the way around, honestly. Every time I see Brad Pitt in a movie I so desperately want to dislike him as just another Hollywood pretty boy, yet time and time again he always delivers just stellar stuff. And Chris Pratt was *perfect* for this movie.
Totally agree. I kinda think if he wasnt so damn good looking, more people would consider him a great actor.
Pratt was a fuckin STEAL for this movie cause he wasn't A-list status yet so they were able to sign him on for way lower
@@taywoodz The irony....
So agree about Brad Pitt. When they become seasoned there true talent is magnified, the same with Downey, and Cruise. A few Good Men comes to mind.
@@elgusto5329 still dont get the hype around cruise. amd never will do.
The actor playing Justice has a sweet swing, so looked him up, and sure enough, he played college in Cali and minors for a good number of years.
Noticed that too
Pretty much all the actors they got for the A's players, expect Chris Pratt, played baseball at some level. Producers wanted it to feel authentic when they were shooting the baseball scenes
He was actually signed by the Braves.
@@MickLoud999 thats cool
@@scoones6519 Even Pratt looks the part. Sports movies in general, and baseball movies specifically, are much better when the actors have some athletic ability and the viewer can actually believe they can play the game.
The interesting thing about the Billy/David conversation is that Billy essentially tells David what's what, but presents it to David as his idea: "You get what we're doing here". Billy has no reason to think that David get it, in fact David just told directly him he thought it was all hot air - "It's patter, it's for effect". But Billy cut to bone with the truth about the Yankees, which must've hurt David, but then was smart enough to give him an out: "You get what we're doing here." Billy tells it like it is, but he also doesn't ego-trip about being right, because he wants to work with David. You have to give people a reason to work with you that doesn't hurt their ego too much or they'll resist you even if they know you're right.
Excellent breakdown
Tell that to Andrew Berry at the C Browns.
In fairness to Justice, he presumably _did_ get what they were doing in Oakland, because he had been doing the same thing himself. Throughout his career he consistently worked counts and drew a lot of walks. He also struck out looking a lot, which is an aspect the Jamesian offensive philosophy that the film doesn't go into: not only is a walk as good as a single in this philosophy, but a strikeout is no worse than any other kind of out. Justice emblematized this approach, striking out 80 or 90 times in a full season but also drawing 70 or 80 walks over and above a batting average that was regularly .280 or higher - sometimes much higher. In short he really was a great example for the younger hitters, not just in this movie but irl as well.
@@SWE7even Teams done for. Watson is never gonna see the field, and Baker is gonna tear them apart for years once hes out. What a train wreck of ineptitude we got in Cleveland sports here.
@@cisium1184 Strikeouts also seldom result in rally/inning killing double plays. I believe you're correct. David Justice did get the philosophy being employed at Oakland. He had a career OBP of .378
On strikeouts, they are outs that rarely result in rally/inning killing double plays. Exceptions being when a team tries to hit and run on a two strike count, or a runner gets picked off on strike three.
Just watched this movie... I'm Irish and never watched a game of baseball in my life... very good movie
42 is really good too.
Irish gangggg
@@Poppywoppy416 gang gang
The lies you tell
This guy seen base no way in hell you never seen a base game or eve quick Peep why people lie to look good in life never understand this
I love how David doesn't take what Billy said personally. And actually respected his boss telling him to change his attitude.
This movie encapsulates a time in my life where being an A’s fan was so exhilarating. I had become a fan during the 80’s World Series (thanks to my brother introducing them to me). We followed them, and when they finally got a great team together, it got dismantled by other, richer teams. It was always so hard to be a fan and watch your players be lured away by the money and fame. I went to many games in the 2001-2002 seasons. Fantastic times I will never forget abs watching this movie really makes me feel like I was part of that success.
What tripped me out about those 80s A's was the first time I heard Dave Stewart speak when he joined the Blue Jays... he had the most killer stare down I've ever seen and from that alone I could see why he would win 20 games a year.
The thing is the A's ownership STILL doesn't pay players.
Not paying players and being cheap IS eventually going to bite you in the ass, you can go out and sign underrated guys on cheap contracts but if they turn out great than when their contract is up they will want a better contract.
Eventually you have to bite the bullet and pay some guys or just sink into obscurity.
Im a mets fan and can tell you that an ownership change can make all the difference. Hopefully the As get an owner that cares
@@devinberry4472 Or put into the contract that a larger team has to pay off the existing contract. That way the richer team will be paying the smaller teams to train their players. The smaller teams effectively become schools, where the larger teams can then pay for those experienced (and tested) players
Exactly what fans of the Montreal Expos went through. They had a great chance to go the distance in 1994 before the strike hit. Then they became a farm team for the rest of the league. I remember looking at their ticket prices back around 2000 and seeing seats behind home plate available for $8 (US).
At the 0:39 mark, David Justice was an EGO PROBLEM and Billy got him on board without destroying that ego but instead harnessing it in a way beneficial to the whole team. Great scene.
Not really Ego. He knows what he's getting paid and he knows his experience compared to the other guys on the squad. He wasn't too good to play, he just wasn't interested in the psychology... he'd heard it all before. Like a patient who has been in therapy for years sitting down with a first time therapist and saying; "Hey, I know these lines, they don't work on me." So Billy switches up the psychology, makes the Yankees the bad guys, (never a hard sell in baseball) and then points out that what he needs is for Justice to use his experience to help the others... and Justice falls in line. Justice was never really a Problem, but he wasn't being the asset he could be.
Scott Hatteberg was a great person to meet. The person that plays David Justice nailed it on the head of his persona and how he was.
Yep, Hatteberg is a nice country boy from Yakima. Justice had one of the biggest egos in baseball.
That dialogue up there was a perfect example of how to say a lot of things with just a few perfect lines. Best writing.
The cut his Line, best part of that scene! "Well good luck with that",as he chews his cereal!
Justice says “well, good luck with that” right?
Totally feel that fear of a baseball going over 100 easy straight at your face with not even 2 seconds to react
Wasn’t he a catcher before tho? Like shouldn’t he be used to 100 mph balls coming right at his face?
@@BigGov74 pitchers aiming for his glove, and he might not have to catch if the ball gets hit. Flip side, how many different angles could the ball head to first base, flying faster than a throw? And he's supposed to catch it.
@@meloveyouforeggroll not to mention where you go with the ball is different for different positions. Baseball isn't just see ball, catch ball, throw ball like alot of people think it is.
+Paul first basemen don't get to be decked out in protective gear though lol, it's no wonder he's scared, it probably feels like playing naked to a longtime catcher
@@BigGov74 Catcher is completely different, you know it’s coming and you are kitted up and ready for it. Nothing scared me more than when I threw a pitch and saw the ball come straight back at me at twice the speed
I love the realization at the end that "holy shit this team truly does need a leader and I have my work cut out for me"
Great movie.
I think what won Dave over was that Billy didn’t bullshit him. He reminded him the Yankees didn’t really value him, but he did. He told him up front he wanted whatever he had left to give and in return he could keep playing. They both get what they want. He wasn’t trying to talk down to him, Billy just needed him to understand the plan doesn’t work without him. That’s a real leader.
I just remember seeing this in theaters going, “Holy shit, how’d they get Scott Hatteberg to play in this movie?” Now I laugh.
I thought the same thing! Haha
i thought the same thing about the scene with all the baseball scouts. i was like "how did they get all those scouts to act?"
Scott Hatteberg fights dinosaurs now.
@@normie2716 Funny because one of Hatteburg's ex-teammates claimed that dinosaur bones were planted by scientists to undermine their faith.
Hatteberg became a good enough first baseman that he was acquired by Cincinnati, when they were looking to improve their defense.
I actually asked a friend if David justice played himself. The actor looked just like him. Lol
@@joecook5689 He was a minor leaguer who quit baseball in the late 90s and became an actor. Stephen Bishop. You can tell he played by his swing.
@@terracottapie thanks, dude. Good info
cool story but he was not dye chavez or tejada so ...
@@joecook5689 I’ve seen this movie about 10 times over the years and I always assumed that David Justice played himself in this film. Looking at the actor and a photo of David the guys look very similar. They are only 5 years a part in age.
They cut out the best line. DJ shouted with cereal in his mouth “we’ll good luck with that”
Hi
3:04 - Starlord summing up my time playing 1st base in little league
little league? good for you - that's how i feel in adult co-ed rec softball
@@cheefussmith9380 infield in adult softball is crazy. Short infields and former jocks wanting to show how hard they can hit a ball at your face.
Forget little league. Middle school gym class where the ex little league players are trying to show off how good they are.
Mine too.
"" Well good luck with that ! ""
" Moneyball " is arguably the best baseball movie of all time, and I love love love all baseball movies.
It’s good but nope. Easily falls behind Field of Dreams, The Sandlot, Bull Durham, and Major League. But Moneyball is great because of what it is. The others are just more “nostalgia inducing”.
Oh, and A League of their Own also tops it.
Also The Natural beats Moneyball.
Strange, I never thought to compare it with other baseball movies, but yeah, it's right up there.
@@finch2213 gotta include rookie of the year.
Stop this nonsense please sir.
I don't know much about baseball at all - and Moneyball is one of the best movies about a sport, which rules are not familiar to me)
The statistical analysis. They're do beautiful
Captain Holt! Fancy seeing you here.
“They are do beautiful”
@@CGBalla1014 yep they do XD
Explore weaknesses, build them back up, and have them provide an example as a Veteran. Classic management.
I could watch this movie again and again.
It’s amazing to see Jonah, who usually plays a comical character in movies play such a serious role and do it so well.
I wasn't initially a fan but this role (amongst others) really showed his range. Great comedic actors can often perform better at dramatic roles than 'serious' actors trying to be funny. Robin Williams and Jim Carrey come to mind - insanely funny in comedy roles but incredibly talented at drama.
@@raggededge82also bill burr
"David Justice" thinks that he's kind of special in that moment. "Billy Beane" knocks him off of that with the most epic burn I've ever seen on film, and he has the nerve to ask "Where you going with this? "
It's a beautiful thing to watch David justice take swings.
The actor Bishop who plays him used to be teammates on the Braves and had his beautiful swing down pat from watching m/idolizing him
Good for Seth for sorting his life since high school, I bet Evan and Fogell also happy fro him
He didn't need to get into Dartmouth to be successful. Kudos to him 😂
Man ended up getting a contract with the military after he got let go
I watched this movie the day after Manchester United won the league for the last time. Little did I know how much the events surrounding the film would have such a huge impact on Liverpool’s success 🤧
Brad Pitt, Jonah Hill, and Chris Pratt are some of the few actors in Hollywood that are actors before celebrities. They are so good at their craft, especially Brad Pitt. Love this movie so much
Not sure I understand your comment, have there been a lot of actors who were celebrities first?
@@kbanghart a lot of actors do it for the fame and money, but i think jonah, chris, and brad do it because they love acting
@@michaeltracy9932 well some are definitely in it for the fame and money, but since only a relatively few actors get rich and famous, the vast majority do it because they love it. Think of all the shows out there that get cancelled, all the movies released, etc. All those unknown actors aren't paid that much
3 minutes is enough time for an impactful talk. What a man!
The dialogue, the mood, the lighting, the sceneeeee. Sooooooo gooood!
Kudos to Stephen Bishop, what a great cast!
The background score of this movie is spectacular.
Loved the really loud bleep in the clip, real fun and such a good idea too!
Everyone pulled their weight in this movie, and I think that’s why it’s so good. That and the score of course
as a sports fan and was taking a shit ton of statistics classes back in college, first time i watched it back then it was hella fun and fascinating
Analytics changed manufacturing, Billy took it to baseball, and now the NFL is using it. The best part of it is when you see the end results of your efforts. This movie inspires us to be and do better.
Straight from Japan. Do more with less tomorrow.
The results of these efforts was to be able to charge fans $15 for a beer for more years while letting the stadium and the team rot so they could state their case to move away. Never forget that. The only thing Money Ball is good for is to extract more money from the fans, no matter what city they're in. It's not about winning championships.
The BEST, most honest conversation.
uh c'mon. You cut it just before the best part. When DJ yells at Scott as he's leaving the room "Well OK good luck with that"!!! Classic.
Looked at Justice's numbers in his last season; home run numbers down to 12, but his on-base percentage went up!
Beane encouraged Justice to take whatever pitchers would give him instead of trying to continue hitting for power that he no longer had, which is the mistake the Yanks made with Justice the previous season.
This is change management. This is so applicable to every business or organization. I love this movie so much!
True. But I think the movie does not show the best way to do change management. What do you think?
those lines from Pratt were so relatable
So many fantastic lines and great conversations in this film
2:20-2:34 after Billy has broke it down for David - and he's looking to see if he's got past the ego - and the hurt - and David does take in his real place and current potential - is just wonderful and subtle.
David Justice batted .266 for the A's with 70 walks and had 400 at bats... pretty good for his last season in the pros
i have always loved scenes like this, with music like this!!!!
idk how accurate this scene is. but as for the movies representation its amazing. he opens up david justice's mind on whats going on behind the scenes (then yankees paying for half his salary because they see him as a liability) but its followed right after with honesty. you have experience, and i need that, and you, to show these new guys how to progress properly
It has Aaron Sorkin's unrealistic rhythmic writing all over it. But goddam it's good.
The DJ character here serves the function of telling the Moneyball story quickly, in Lewis’s book he does not have a very large role (Wash, not DJ, calls Hatty the “picking machine” to boost his confidence).
The statistics are kept to a minimum because no one would watch that, but drama and people resolving situations through dialogue, even if it never actually happened, is more cinematic.
I think DJ's "picking machine" here is echoing Wash saying it earlier, in the background of an on-field practice scene. So the movie is using it as a shorthand for DJ reinforcing the coaching to younger players.
You cut off the best part: "Well, hey, good luck with that!"
I wish I had a dad or a boss or a teacher like Billy that, instead of confirming my doubts about them and their visions, they'd not only respond honestly with me but also lift me up as a person and make me believe in them and also myself. Short, amazing scene.
Love this film. Love watching the real footage too
Probably, arguably, one of the best scenes in the movie..
My favorite. I watch it now and then just as a reminder to keep my eye on the ball.
Awesome
"I'm not paying you 7 million. The Yankees are paying you 3.5 million. That's what they think of you. They're paying you to play against them."
Amazing line
Yeah, except you butchered it
“Well hey, Good luck with that!” 😂
Oh no, man! The sentence Justice throws after Hatteberg is the best part of the scene!
Love how Billy is outside the cage, behind the net, and David is inside, imprisoned by his ego.
One of Brad's top movies ever. Actually the whole cast. From beginning to end just a great movie.
1:15 BEEEEP!!!!!...i think u should make it just a tad louder LMAO
I mean good on that player to show some humility. Rare
it was his last year so
That awkward moment when your boss tells you What It Is.
My baseball stats junkie loving mother would have adored this film! 👍
I quit playing organized baseball after 8th grade, because (1) at bat I was getting lots of walks, but no longer many hits and a lot of strikeouts, and (2) I was a catcher for 5 years by then, but I was afraid to catch one of our pitchers, who threw so hard that he jammed my thumb badly twice in one season. Had I known walks and strikeouts were good, and being afraid wasn't bad, I should have kept at it and maybe joined the Oakland A's LMAO
Strikeouts are not good. Who told you strikeouts are good? They are (save for a double-triple play) the worst possible end result of an at bat. Walks are good, hits are better.
@@johnsalem1795 not to be that guy, but teams no longer care about k's as long as the guy is getting on base/hitting for power. A walk is as good as a hit.
@@FlexxSuavee if a guy is striking out a lot, he isnt getting on base. Obviously walks are good, but not as good as hits. Teams that don't strikeout walk a LOT more also...so
@@johnsalem1795 never heard of the 3 true outcome rule? Walk, K, or Homer that's pretty much modern ball simplified
@@dannykrise9721 I've heard of 3 true outcome hitters, never realized it was a rule. Also, 3 true outcome hitters aren't necessarily attractive to gms lol, they production relies heavily on the home run, which nobody converts consistently.
Underrated dialogue in this movie really good
It's not underrated. It's known to be the movie's strength.
DJ,”Seriously?What is it?”
Classic.
Very timely pick by the algorithm.
Thanks Algorithm!
That is a really masterpiece!
"that a ball will be hit in my general direction"
Yeah this was me in little league... Idk why I was so afraid of the ball, wish my dad wouldn't of been so serious and told me to just go do my best and have fun get competitive. Instead it was non stop grilling until I had to talk to my mom and quit. Absolutely humiliating, I liked it because I got to be the summer with friends but the amount of pressure for a kid who's in first year of non machine pitching. Like he wanted a pro athlete. I always swore if I have a son or daughter into sports I will never be as intense as my father was about them being a all star
Being afraid of the ball is like the biggest thing that separates the people who play teeball to those that play baseball in their teen years. For some reason, some people, myself included, can just not get over the fear of the ball, whether that be batting, fielding, or pitching. It's very interesting, but its probably the number one reason that kids quit the sport at a young age.
Sounds like you just weren’t cut out for it. Scared, soft, and a quitter.
@@mitchellolson5684 lol went into the army boot camp and hold a high rank. Sorry I quit little league guess I'm soft huh? Lol shut up stupid lil highschooler I make kids that look like you cry for living
I was a utility player when I played baseball a good 20 years. I could play any position all day long. The ones I dreaded the most were 1st and 3rd base because they are so close to a righty/lefty taking my head off after each pitch.
Pitcher is the single most dangerous position in baseball...closest to a righty or lefty swing of the bat propelling a baseball greater than 100 mph straight at your head...or worse, your gonads...cup or no cup.
@@thejils1669 Agreed. When I was little I had very little fear when pitching because I was a pretty good pitcher. But when I got older and was forced to sometimes pitch playing softball, I would throw the pitch and backpedal as fast as I could.
Cut off the best part when David says "well hey good luck with that!"
I wish the video was just a couple seconds longer for when Justice yells "well good luck with that" after Hatte walks away.
The application of their tactics in building a winning ballclub by the numbers is now standard across virtually every team in MLB. But here's the thing. Money, buy's arms, it buys bats, it buys gloves, but it doesn't always buy wins. Now that people have broken down all the analytics, and really figured out who's the best on paper, if you don't have the money, you're not making it to October. But there's another factor....ALL of those players synching at the same time. I'm a Cardinals fan. In 2006, we made the playoffs on a mere 83 wins, but they got hot in October and won the Series. It's all about who gets hot at the right time, that's it. A 100+ win team can choke and lose the Division Series. A Wild Card Team, can end up taking the Series.....you never know.
Cardinals always have a good team. Would love to know how they construct their team. I like Donovan a lot.
Beane has talked about this. He says that his job as GM is to build a team that can make it to the postseason. After that it's luck.
I'm a Phillies fan and the Phils have the #4 payroll in baseball and right now(6/15/23) they're 34-34. They've had losing streaks of 4(to start the season), 6, 5, & 5. That accounts for 20 of their 34 losses. And at times they've looked awful doing it. So you can throw all the money at any player but you still gotta perform.
One of the BEST sport films ever made. Unique takes on it. What's more, it's even a dramatization of a real story.
Didn’t realize in my first watch that this was David immediately being the leader that Billy asked him to be. He immediately assumed the role he knew he belonged in. What a movie, man.
Billy murdered that man's soul.
Greatest fear: that the ball gets hit in my direction.
A metaphor for life and fear of failure despite the possibility of major league success. Love it.
Nope it’s literally just he’s scared of the baseball being hit to first because he’s afraid he’ll mess up
Stop trying to be a philosopher
@@ToxiccSalad no shit, that's the metaphor dummy.
There is nothing like the sound of a baseball coming off a bat, and the immediate concern of what is going to happen next. It's not a gunshot, it's not a catastrophe. It is why I will always think baseball is the greatest game ever invented.
100% 👍 agree
One of the best baseball movies
The best baseball movie ever.
Goddamn what a swing the actor playing Justice has lol. Great casting choice.
Just love playing rounders
That David Justice actor has a good swing!
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I love this scene so much!
Baseball is so strange to me. I find the games boring as hell, but by fuck does it make good material for movies.
Bro ong you spitting faxxxx
It's significantly better in person, because you can see the whole field and watch things develop in a way you just can't if you're watching on TV. But what really helps is to think through what's happening. For example:
Runner on second when the batter hits a single to right. So, does the coach send the runner? Well, it depends on these things:
How hard was the ball hit? How fast is the runner? How good a jump did he get? What kind of a jump did the fielder get? How good is his arm? How aggressive is he at throwing home? What's the game situation (score, what inning they're in, how many outs, etc.)? If it's a close game and late, he's more likely to throw home to stop the run, where if it's early in the game, he's more likely to throw to second to hold the runner at first and concede the run.
That's a lot to process in the two seconds between the time the ball is hit and the runner reaches third.
Well good luck wit that 🤣🤣🤣
Missed the best part at the end. "Well hey, good luck with that man!"
I never knew Chris Pratt had such flair in baseball!
The true birth of analytics driven baseball. I wish this team made the World Series. Would've turned the majors on its head.
Only one ALCS to show for all of this. That year, they lost to the Tigers.
@@cityhawkThey lost to the Twins. And they’ve made playoff appearances since then.
Of course, right now they’re tanking for the LV relocation but they used to be… decent in the 00’s/early 10’s
I was always terrified of playing catch with a baseball like why is it so small and hard? Let’s just break out the football instead lol