Viserys & Daemon Targaryen's Parents (House of the Dragon)

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  • čas přidán 15. 04. 2023
  • King Viserys and Daemon Targaryen's parents from HotD/ASoIaF/GoT
    Baelon and Alyssa that lived before the start of the hbo prequel
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  • @jacobdarling1524
    @jacobdarling1524 Před rokem +128

    I like to think that Viserys chose Balerion very strategically. As the most famous dragon he made a perfect status symbol. But as the oldest dragon it gave Viserys a perfect excuse for not being much of dragon rider. Like someone buying an antique sports car when they don’t even like to drive that much. They can say nah I love riding but this thing’s a classic and I don’t want to damage it.

    • @Spongebrain97
      @Spongebrain97 Před rokem +9

      I think you're completely correct. Something I'd add to that is that as part of the excuse of Balerion being too old to ride anymore is maybe because Viserys was scared of dragons and didn't like them much

    • @visionofsolace8961
      @visionofsolace8961 Před 10 měsíci +1

      ​​@@Spongebrain97onestly who tf wouldn't have a certain degree, albeit higher on some than other Targaryens, degree of fear of a potentially genocidal animal who is magically connected to your very body, mind and soul by some magic you certainly have no idea how that works?

  • @danielsantiagourtado3430
    @danielsantiagourtado3430 Před rokem +176

    Baelon and Alyssa deserves better

  • @kryztyn127
    @kryztyn127 Před rokem +49

    Baelon is actually the fourth child born to Jaehaerys and Alyssane. Aegon was the first child who died after he was born, the second was Daenaerys who died of the shivers at six.
    Also Jaehaerys was wise to not give everyone dragons, he knew they were nukes. But he did let his eldest living son and his spare(after getting their knighthoods) and his eldest daughter have a dragon (basically because Alyssa wasnt going to get shipped off to some family). And this is the reason why Aemma Arryn doesnt have a dragon, Jaehaerys knew they could be used against each other.

  • @Divine_Chareka
    @Divine_Chareka Před rokem +112

    I hope I will see Baelon & Aemon on tv someday.

    • @Kyle-qd2sy
      @Kyle-qd2sy Před rokem +22

      Early on, GRRM wanted House of the Dragon to start off with Aemon and Baelon during their fathers reign. Can't remember where I heard it, but there's a rumor that in season 2 there will be some flashbacks to Jaehaerys I reign. Hope it's true.

    • @Divine_Chareka
      @Divine_Chareka Před rokem +8

      @@Kyle-qd2sy it was during an interview when he talked about The Rise of the Dragon illustrated book. Yeah a season 2 flashback would be cool.

    • @p-ball_from_SEA
      @p-ball_from_SEA Před rokem +13

      God imagine how many reactions the show could have gotten if they showed the tragedy of Aemon's early death and Baelon crying into his mother's arms as he told her that all the Myrish soldiers he killed couldn't bring his elder brother back. That was gut wrenching to read in F&B.

  • @natanieltiglao540
    @natanieltiglao540 Před rokem +81

    Imagine punching the snout of Balerion the Black Dread whose flames forged the Iron Throne and helped to conquer the Seven Kingdoms. What type of Targaryen is he?

    • @asoiaf__
      @asoiaf__ Před rokem +18

      Baelon the Brave

    • @whathell6t
      @whathell6t Před rokem +3

      @@asoiaf__
      But is he brave enough to punch the snout of King Ghidorah, the Three-Headed, politically-intelligent, ion-breathing, alien dragon?

    • @fallenaeon7084
      @fallenaeon7084 Před rokem +1

      ​@@whathell6t
      You mean Ancalagon the Black? 🥹

    • @realdaggerman105
      @realdaggerman105 Před 11 měsíci

      @@fallenaeon7084ALDUIN, EATER OF WORLDS

    • @alexdredge655
      @alexdredge655 Před 11 měsíci

      A badass

  • @shanell04
    @shanell04 Před rokem +44

    Wish we saw Baelon and Aemon on television, apparently GRRM wanted them for HOTD, but I’m not sure why the idea was never followed through

    • @carastone3473
      @carastone3473 Před rokem +13

      Because the story they want to tell is the Dance of the Dragons. They wanted to get to that as soon as possible.

    • @shanell04
      @shanell04 Před rokem +5

      @@carastone3473 true, im happy with the way the show was because atleast we got to the main story straight away

    • @realdaggerman105
      @realdaggerman105 Před 11 měsíci +2

      I love HOTD, but the pacing is Blitzkrieg. Imagine if we started even further back.

  • @SaltoDaKid
    @SaltoDaKid Před rokem +30

    Fact both Vizzy T and daemon both named their first son after their unborn brother hit deep

    • @xxwhispersxx2856
      @xxwhispersxx2856 Před rokem +1

      Rhaenrya actually chose the name Aegon as an insult to Alicent. It had nothing to do with Daemon.

    • @SeaBeast4Life
      @SeaBeast4Life Před 11 měsíci

      Like all the Aegons, they're more likely named after The Conquer

    • @rhystucker1673
      @rhystucker1673 Před 2 měsíci

      Not a son, but I think OP was referring to Baela, who is named after Baelon.

  • @RapaxGuardian
    @RapaxGuardian Před 11 měsíci +10

    I love how their granddaughter Baela inherited Baelon and Alyssa's personalities

  • @rhaenyraitargaryen6360
    @rhaenyraitargaryen6360 Před rokem +34

    Rhaenyra is a combination of three of Jaehaerys' line from his 3 children if you really think about it. Prince Baelon, Princess Alyssa, and Princess Daella Targaryen from Queen Aemma's side.

    • @ladyviking89
      @ladyviking89 Před 11 měsíci +2

      Technically she more like Saera Targaryen not prince Baelon.

    • @akaraniq
      @akaraniq Před 11 měsíci +4

      @@ladyviking89 They're not talking about personality, those are her grandparents

    • @rocktheconqueror6903
      @rocktheconqueror6903 Před 10 měsíci +2

      @@ladyviking89 she's nothing like either of them

  • @norbix-od7rt
    @norbix-od7rt Před rokem +16

    You could have added that is was archmaester Vaegon that Jeaheaerys summoned to Kingslanding to council him about the succesion problem and it was Vaegons idea to call a great council of 101

    • @reesehendricksen1871
      @reesehendricksen1871 Před rokem +2

      I find it so fascinating that both Vaegon and Seara were possibly alive at the start of the Dance as well.

    • @norbix-od7rt
      @norbix-od7rt Před rokem +1

      @@reesehendricksen1871 i really Hope that we will ser Vaegon on hotd season 2 for a moment

    • @browniebear
      @browniebear Před 9 měsíci

      ​@@norbix-od7rt Vaegon was born in 63 AC and died shortly after The Great Council of 101. The Dance begins in 129 AC.
      The only way you'd see Vaegon is through a flashback which isn't necessary since
      1) That time period of The Great Council is water under the bridge compared to an ongoing civil war
      2) Vaegon was never a major character. His 1 major act is counselling his father to summon a great council.
      I can see why his presence even through flashback would be cool but it's not necessary for the story going forward that already has plenty on its plate.

  • @l0necroc
    @l0necroc Před rokem +33

    I feel like the Dornish naval attack on the stormlands is the dumbest thing in the ASOIAF lore

    • @JaehaerysTheConciliator
      @JaehaerysTheConciliator Před 10 měsíci +1

      Right? That just seemed so unnecessary 💀. It was evidently a lousy effort to remove my heirs and set the stage for the Dance of the Dragons smh

    • @browniebear
      @browniebear Před 9 měsíci +1

      ​@@JaehaerysTheConciliatorThe Dornish invasion of the Stormlands had nothing to do with getting rid of heirs to set the stage for the Dance. Jaehaerys, Aemon and Baelon all on Dragonback along with Lord Rogar Baratheon's army defeated the Dornish attempt without losing a single man.
      You're probably thinking of the Myrish raids on Tarth where Prince Aemon rode to aid the Evenstar of Tarth and ended up getting a Myrish crossbolt to the throat that was meant for the Evenstar and not the Heir Prince. That was the 1st real domino for the succession crisis.

  • @MattijnPlayz
    @MattijnPlayz Před rokem +8

    I was not expecting a picture of Hild in this video but I am absolutely not mad about it!

  • @abdullahciam5599
    @abdullahciam5599 Před rokem +8

    Love your videos man! always gives me something to look forward to!

  • @melstark7265
    @melstark7265 Před rokem +3

    I really appreciate the backstories you provide. I read 4 of the books but eventually I gave up on trying to read them all.

  • @jahaerystargaryen4527
    @jahaerystargaryen4527 Před rokem +7

    Alyssa + Baelon, my most favorite coupple !!!

  • @kitamcguire2509
    @kitamcguire2509 Před rokem +5

    I think the refused to eat porridge part was referencing that she didn’t care about watching her figure

  • @chowderman8888
    @chowderman8888 Před rokem

    Dope. I had no idea. There should be like an optjonal short like this you could watch before the house of the dragons

  • @yung_j1146
    @yung_j1146 Před rokem

    Amazing video bro

  • @rubybrookman2152
    @rubybrookman2152 Před rokem +5

    Aemmas mother was daela ,daela was rlly anxious didn’t even like dragon scared of cats and everything wasn’t a dragon rider in the vale this could suggest that aemma didn’t grow up targ so she wasn’t a dragon rider

  • @jracks3832
    @jracks3832 Před rokem +1

    Hey please do a video on all Valyrian steel weapons

  • @jolinefields3460
    @jolinefields3460 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Apologies in advance @3:40….but I recently heard that “eating porridge “ is code going down on the ladies….😂 so Alyssa could be just a straight “top rider”😂

  • @tylerbarrett6652
    @tylerbarrett6652 Před rokem +32

    It's because of Alyssa that I strongly suspect that Tyrion is, in fact, the bastard son of the Mad King. It's the mismatched eyes, I think, that really clinches it for me.

    • @mrscaryfox3955
      @mrscaryfox3955 Před rokem +4

      I disagree

    • @kitamcguire2509
      @kitamcguire2509 Před rokem +1

      @@mrscaryfox3955 same

    • @carastone3473
      @carastone3473 Před rokem +1

      I don’t think so. Tyrion is the youngest child. If there was even a CHANCE he could be anyone else's son, Tywin would've jumped on that.

    • @tylerbarrett6652
      @tylerbarrett6652 Před rokem +4

      Yes... I know it's controversial... it's just that Tyrion has so many of the Targaryen traits... the platinum blonde hair... dragon dreams... mismatched eyes... and he even seems to be fairly resistant to disease - more than most. We know that Tywin had good reason to think the Mad King had taken liberties with his wife and was rightfully upset with him about it. He continued to insist that Tyrion was NOT his... and constantly resented the fact that he had no way to prove it. The Lannisters consistently had golden blonde hair and green eyes... and no mention of one with platinum blonde hair... or any irregularity in the eyes prior to Tyrion. Tyrion seems to do okay when he finally does come in contact with the dragons too. I think there is enough in the texts to suggest the possibility - but of course EVERYONE is entitled to their own opinion... at least until GRRM confirms or denies it.

    • @thedemonhater7748
      @thedemonhater7748 Před rokem +5

      Counterpoint: dumb theory + ratio

  • @randy42000
    @randy42000 Před rokem +2

    there's no period of time during the targeryen rain that I don't want to see

  • @tylerbarrett6652
    @tylerbarrett6652 Před rokem +4

    Wait... the beginning of the House of the Dragon? NO... GRRM's words clearly say that the seeds for the Dance were sown a HALF CENTURY prior to the Dance. The beginning you mention is still 20 to 25 years short of that 50-year period. We have to look even further back... to somewhere between 75 and 80... What was going on then? What are the "seeds" he was speaking of?

    • @thedemonhater7748
      @thedemonhater7748 Před rokem +9

      This is literally the exact time period covered during the video, lmao

  • @lawrencereid2767
    @lawrencereid2767 Před rokem +6

    Second to take the Black!!!!

  • @JoshuaHenelyThornhill

    As complicated and tumultuous as a family can get

  • @shanenolan5625
    @shanenolan5625 Před rokem

    It seemed like in the show, the king was implying bealor death was suspicious and hightower was suspected. With the benefit of hindsight

  • @paxbello7938
    @paxbello7938 Před rokem +2

    ... didn't Alyssa tame Caraxes, not Meleys?

  • @SHARKVADERS
    @SHARKVADERS Před rokem +4

    WC!!!!!

  • @ToucanBinks
    @ToucanBinks Před rokem

    👍

  • @melanoidmarkus
    @melanoidmarkus Před rokem

    👍🏾👌🏾

  • @Me-qp8vz
    @Me-qp8vz Před rokem +3

    Refused to eat porridge?

    • @kitamcguire2509
      @kitamcguire2509 Před rokem +5

      I think it’s meant to indicate that she didn’t care about dieting, or watching her figure like “most” ladies

  • @nidohime6233
    @nidohime6233 Před rokem +1

    2:50 I have to say, that drawing doesn´t seem very accurate.

  • @hatefulentity5331
    @hatefulentity5331 Před 10 měsíci

    Poor Jahaerys. Twas a great king but lost his sons too early & have very very troublesome daughters.

    • @browniebear
      @browniebear Před 9 měsíci +1

      His only troublesome daughters were Saera and Viserra.
      - Yeah Viserra was poor but she wasn't a lost cause (like Saera) and her death was a tragic accident.
      - Saera was a narcissistic psychopath who lived a sheltered life and likely would've been troublesome no matter her parents and where she grew up.
      So it's unfortunate the King and Queen were given a daughter like that but that's bound to happen when you have 9 surviving kids.
      Tho, out of 6 surviving daughters, only 2 were troublesome.

  • @arjunsandhar578
    @arjunsandhar578 Před rokem +1

    W

  • @Seraphimx
    @Seraphimx Před rokem +2

    I dont think Storm of the Xmen is a Targaryen lol she could be tho 🤷🏾‍♂️🤣

  • @hidansektas
    @hidansektas Před rokem +4

    man their parents were so cool i read the book recently. how are they so fucking unlikable

  • @dellavonta187
    @dellavonta187 Před 3 měsíci

    Bro after ms arryn got married her last name was Targaryen lol

  • @hiyou5362
    @hiyou5362 Před rokem

    Vinland saga

  • @matthewcunningham6351
    @matthewcunningham6351 Před rokem +12

    I feel like Alyssa was in some ways a victim of the same system that led to Aemma, Daella, and other female characters deaths. Really sad to think about.

    • @carastone3473
      @carastone3473 Před rokem +4

      What system? They died in childbirth.

    • @matthewcunningham6351
      @matthewcunningham6351 Před rokem +8

      @@carastone3473
      I mean the patriarchal system which basically pressured women to be married off and to have children often too early.

    • @markbrennan212
      @markbrennan212 Před rokem +7

      If you read the books you know she wasn't a victim. She said she wished to give Baelon 20 sons, an army of his own. So no, not like she was forced to shoot out kids until she died, she wanted to give him as many kids as she wanted, her choice not the patriarchy.

    • @matthewcunningham6351
      @matthewcunningham6351 Před rokem +7

      Yeah, but women didn't get a lot of choices or say in what they got to do. I'm not trying to say she wasn't happy with this lifestyle. I just feel like some of it was very pressured given how young she was when she was married to Baelon. Yes she was happy and loved him but she was still a woman growing up in a system that sees women as "objects".

    • @reesehendricksen1871
      @reesehendricksen1871 Před rokem +2

      @@matthewcunningham6351 for every rule there is an exception, its fair to say she was especially compared to her sisters.