Gaunt's Ghosts 3: NECROPOLIS by DAN ABNETT | Warhammer 40k Book Club
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- It's time for EPISODE 3 of the Gaunt's Ghosts series and the book everyone except Mira agrees is the best one of this trilogy - NECROPOLIS!
NOTE: Podcast version should be up soon! I'm currently going through and uploading all the old episodes so they're in the right order!
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Ian just saying "Sure As Sure" at the end 😂😂 Jesus Christ 😂
He goes on the bastard scale for that.
@@UnevenFrostgun what three words traumatize a Gaunts Ghosts fan
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I know, right! I yelled out loud at that.
Try again.
Ian: ‘The Bluebloods are c***s.’
Mira: ‘Trade war my bottom.’ 😂
That was brilliant!
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“This comes from, ah, Dan Abnett telling you to read his books.” Is such a surreal sentence to hear Roller-Skater-Guy say to Ray-Of-Anime-Sunshine lol
Something I really noticed about the Ghosts books when these videos inspired me to do a re-read is that, especially in the early books, Chaos feels more like a natural disaster than the primary antagonist. The actual villains are more likely to be politics, senior command and infighting, with the Chaos army being a complicating factor. This shifts a bit in some of the later books, but it's very noticeable in the early ones.
The other thing I noticed is that the horrific descriptions of violence are usually reserved for the good guys. Bad guys getting killed will mostly be passed over in a couple of words, while the awful, paragraph-long, lavishly described pain and dismemberment is saved for people we've gotten to know and care about.
Because war is hell, and Dan Abnett is a bastard ;)
I can't believe you talked about the Sharpe paralells without mentioning the most explicit shoutout!
"Over the skies and far away..."
Mira: "I think he's going to survive"
Ian: * Muttley laugh *
we are getting dangerously close to Mira finding out about THE MOMENT.
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Sure as
Mira is Dan's rememberancer, I love that!
Sorry to say, my favorite Gaunt's Ghosts book is waaaaaay in the future in the series, it's Blood Pact.
Mine too I think though Anarch is close 🤔
@@HistoritorJimaldus Anarch is also very good, agreed! Very intense, but on a grander scale. Blood Pact is more intimate with the setting overall.
👻 if I remember correctly, this book came out when the first Cityfight Codex came out and they complemented each other perfectly.
38:51 he drives the pyramid closer to use the big laser of course!
"Likes Meccano and killing people." 😄😄😄😄
Mira and Ian are such great guides to these books.
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Merity Chass is totally a Bond-girl name.
Ian: "Sure as sure"
Everyone watching: "Ooooooooooof"
Really enjoyed this mini-series of the book club, it's going to be interesting to see Mira's reaction to Lijah Cuu if they continue through the series
They’re reading Honour Guard now :)
Sure as sure
Fethin Cuu...
Sure as sure ya big dumbo!
Oh god I always pronounced Kolea ‘kuh-lia’ and just realised it’s a miner reference and should be ‘collier’ 😂
OH YEAH!
🤣@@ArbitorIan
Nadzybar was the first Archon, killed at Balhaut by Warmaster Slaydo - the current Archon is Urlock Gaur, but The Anarch (Anakwanar Sek) is a rival to him though technically pledged to him. And then there are a bunch of lesser leaders such as Heritor Asphodel and Pater Sin etc
Anakwanar Sek. Did Abnett just want to name this guy Anarchy Wanker?
It's up there with Oll Persson the Old Person
👻 Necropolis is certainly my favourite Ghosts. It expertly weaves through the micro and the makro, has the best villains, all the political intrigue, Ibram romance, Ibram putting his foot down, daemon engines, gorgeous old and new characters major and minor, epic tank battles, bloody melee, and so much world-building. It's certainly the most colourful and efficient of all the Ghosts novels. I love it so much.
Great series, Necropolis is one of the best GG books, it really kicked off the larger arc of the Sabbat Crusade. I’m in the middle of a re-read of the entire series now that The Victory arc is complete and loving it all over again. Enjoy, guys! 👻
Sure as sure, bad things are on the way
Always lovely to see your energy and enthusiasm!
Was my first Warhammer book ever. You both forgot, that Dordens son dies
Poor Dorden.
17:49 - One of the things it may help mira to know is that gw themselves represent chaos in the worst way. Its like 5 flavours of space marines and some daemons. Dan abnetts chaos forces in just the ghost books have more variety than the entire gw chaos range. So expect lots of weird chaos guys that dont show up anywhere else.
You're right. But they've got better, with the Cultist and Tormented releases and the Inquisition Kill Team material.
Also, they were rather subtle in the late 90s with stuff like Inquisitor (which basically kickstarted Eisenhorn and the Abnetverse).
Keep going Mara it gets better and better. Just wait until the Ghosts get to Gereon
👻👻👻 It's the battle of Stalingrad in 40k terms. It's a great war novel because it's shockingly brutal, in the same way that good media about Stalingrad is, with the horror juxtaposed with people just trying to get by.
big yay for Jessi Banda!!!!!
For me by far the best gaunts ghost book and also on of the best 40k books. So epic
👻 If it wasn't for Necropolis I wouldn't have stuck with the amazing Gaunt's Ghosts series. Thank you to those who suggested reading it. And thanks to Dan for writing it and its fellows.
👻 Necropolis is one of the best in the whole series.
It's my favourite 40k book
Until Traitor General.
You have such great chemistry, it's always delightful to listen to you talk about these books. The reading list grows...
I swear, if Mira is not narrating the trailers for the Warhammer show, I will summon the Commisariat
Necropolis is my favorite of the Founding arc, but my overall favorite is either Guns of Tanith or Sabbat Martyr. Next favorites are Blood Pact or Salvation's Reach.
...your pronunciation of Kolea as Collier makes me realise that it's a mining pun. I've always said it as KOL-ee-A!
Also, you used to be able to get a model of General Grizmund from Forgeworld!
I've just finished book 9 (I think) and this one is still one of my favorites, it feels like the point where the series matured and became what it is today. We also got so many new characters, such a great novel.
45:59 daemonculaba face 😮😂
Oh no oh no oh no.
These reviews are so good. I mean, the whole channel is great! But when you team up with Mira there's just something extra special. (And these go so well with Mira's interviews with the authors on her own channel.) There are so many, many WH40K channels, but this is one of the very few that I watch without fail. Well done, Arbitor!
43:21 - That's a subtle nod to a character I would like to beat over the head with a steel chair.
👻 Necropolis is just so immensely, staggeringly good. One of the best in the series and, as always, performed phenomenally by Toby Longworth.
If I remember right this is where Caffran starts his journey as being 'the best tread-fether in the regiment' when him and Criid are trying to survive
It is. It really emphasizes from this point that caff knows his way around a missile launcher.
Finally, this is my favorite of the original three 👻. I've been really looking forward to this one
👻 Cant wait to watch your progress through the series. Love you guys!
This is also my favorite Ghosts book. It was epic and foundational for the rest of the series. This is when the Ghosts started to feel like part of the family. Loved it! ❤
I’m up in the troop transport that brought the guard, orbiting the planet, waiting for them to call for a pickup, wondering what’s going on down there? Oh well I’ll just keep polishing the guns up here and waiting for the call.
You guys really need to read some Joe Abercrombie. It's not Warhammer related, but I get the feeling you'll love it!
Straight silver is my favourite but neropolis has a place in my heart as it was the first 40k book I read
👻 Necropolis is my all time favourite Warhammer 40k novel, bar none. I love the way Abnett ramps up the tension throughout - a trick he pulls off very effectively in 'Know No Fear' (no spoilers for when you get to that one in your Heresy read through 😏)
Huge Dan Abnett fan, super pumped about "Only in Death" coming out in audio Oct 7, my fav Gaunts Ghost is "First and Only"!! I listened to it once, loved it so much, I listed again, and have books 1-10 in my Audible Library. Love Gaunts Ghosts
always great to hear about Gaunt's ghosts
First of all 👻
Second of all, I'm learning that I pronounce every name different to you guys in this series, maybe because I'm Australian?
Either way, great review! I cannot wait to hear about your thoughts on Sabbat Martyr and Traitor General
I learnt the names from the audiobooks and about 2/3rds maybe 75% were the same as Ian's pronunciations. definitely some different ones though.
Same here, I was reading Gilbert as Jillbert in a posh French way for some reason haha.
@@Kael660 isn’t it spelt Gilbear?
@@HistoritorJimaldus honestly I can’t recall. It’s been a minute haha
First and only was the first 40K book I finished but thus book is what really solidified my love of 40k 👻
👻 Necropolis was actually my very first Warhammer book ever. I found it in my high school library, for some weird reason. I don't think the librarians had read it... It's still one of my favorites, too, and I even have the old Forge World General Grizmund tank commander model because of it. Also, great video! Love it
On the disabled Ghosts thing; I remain unconvinced that fascist space grunts aren’t great representation, but with the massive caveat that the empire that will give you crummy robot fingers so you can keep doing racist shooting is mot providing to each according to their need, there is a lovely moment in the Suicide Kings one where the Inquisition’s version of the AstroTERF’s come of silence spell is defeated because the Ghosts can lip read. Take that, non-inclusive Gestapo Proxies.
Just got the latest omnibus but it was Necropolis that truely hooked me, I could not put this book down when I first read it and practicaly moved into a local cafe for an hour every morning before work to get through it.
I read Necropolis about 15 years ago and can only remember Ana Curth, Tona Criid… and the weird meat puppets.
Just finished Anarch last night. Couldn't remember a thing about this one, the action movie summary helped a lot :D
After listening for a while :👻
Can't wait to see mira read know no fear from the heresy, to my opinion it's the best abnett war story
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While a bunch of the later ghosts books get kind of whatever imo, the one where the gang goes and infiltrates the jungle chaos world is up there for me. Such a neat change of pace.
👻Necropolis is a thrill! I love the whole series but this is the only one I've read (i.e. asked Toby Longworth to read to me while I work or paint) multiple times. I agree with Ian, the sprawling war movie is super appealing.
Book club is my favourite Warhammer content.
"There is a LOT OF WAR!"
Love these vids so much. Keep up the good work folks. !
👻 100% the book that starts of my love of DA's books
I was joking when I commented about Mira reading about the Daemonculaba. But you're actually reading the Ultramarines books??? Oh no...
Everyone noticing Ians "Sure as sure" comment and Im here more invested in "And remember, his two surviving SONS, Dalin and Yoncey"
👻 Easily my favourite of the first 3 books.
I love how it weaves the combat scenes between more personal and intrigue scenes.
The Epilogue is one of my favourite parts and it introduces some of my favourite characters Like Criid, Curth and Nessa.
I love how adding the Vervunhivers adds so many more opportunities for new narratives to the ghosts, to me their just not the ghosts without them.
When Ian said sure as sure 😢
"please patronize us" lol
Ghostmaker is also my favorite of the first three.
Sabbat Martyr and Traitor General are my faves with Necropolis as the 3rd... Please read the "Sabbat" collection
"In a world..." gets me everytime.
Can’t wait till Mira starts reading ADB’s work
She already read Spear of the Emperor :)
@@HistoritorJimaldus this is true.
"In a world were life is already pretty tough..." lmao
"Sure as sure"!!!!!! lijah fething cuu
I really like Necropolis, it's obviously a great novel and a real page turner. But I dunno...I think I prefer First and Only, overall? I know it's a bit janky in structure, but I'm not really a huge structure person and I often prefer books with a non standard structure. I just really like the plot and the different sequences in it, it really works for me.
Need to get back to reading the Ghost Novels. I have to admit I sort of burn out on them at a certain point even though I like them, because I'm more into the war story aspect than the character drama stuff. So I think I've gotten as far as Traitor General. I might give it another go and see if I can follow the series to the end, because I've enjoyed every book to some extent.
8:00 oh, kolea is a homophone of Collier. That’s an audiobook fail. Commissar coal too.
Ian, "Sure as Sure", I bet you think you're sooo clever... you are, it was hilarious.
Of the three you've done so far, I do think this is my favourite. Although my favourite overall is Traitor General, I think.
Anyway: 👻
If you're doing Oldhammer, my favourite was Kim Newman (Jack Yeovil) 's "Drachenfels"
👻, definitely my favourite of ‘The Founding’ not even close to my favourite in the series thus far. Please keep going with these. (Most of my favourites are in ‘The Lost’ arc.)
I really wished I'd "forgotten to return" Necropolis to my school library when I graduated high school 😂! they had so many warhammer books! Sure as sure no one else in school was reading the warhammer books back then based on the loan card- and who knows if the school library has thrown them away by now 😢
NECROPOLIS ist the first proper book in the series.👻
Chekhov's needle gun
Not the first proper one, but it’s the best. It just is.
Yes! CZcams’s power couple; ‘miraian’ is back! Rejoice. 🥰
I have never heard anyone pronounce Criid like THAT!
I gakking love these book club videos 🙂
Fething great!
I really enjoyed 1 book ! May favorite maybe in the gaunt's ghosts ! But the best Warhammer novel is fire cast by Peter Fehervary!
Love Mira.
💙 Specifically I’d like to hear Mira’s reaction to Dead Sky Black Sun. That was my first Warhammer Book years ago.
God that's one grim journey of miserableness.
That being your first is... something. 😬
👻Because it's the only one I've read. Coincidentally found it a discount bookstore shortly after seeing Ian's video about it, so it was fresh on my mind. Had to pick it up!
Am I right in thinking the "famous thing" in the Ventris novel is that one thing that rhymes with screaming-in-lava? If so, poor Mira is going to need a big mug of hot chocolate and a therapist on standby.
Brilliant ty.
"Daddy Chass"? Ian, are you a secret wrestling fan?
Can't wait to see Mira's response to the booty call James Bond incident's outcome
👻 - and it's not close.
👻 (have that map burned into my retinas)
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Just finished the GG series after over a year btw. Read Anarch this January.
Can't wait till you guys catch up to Kolea and his SONS! 😁😁
My fav is Salvation's Reach
Now, will you do #4 or the interlude short story anthology?
Also am excited to see what Mira ranks someone who's 'sure as sure' on the bastard scale!
i prefer traitor general/armor of contempt. abnet does such a good job letting you see into how chaos works in those. but alot that comes and haunt the ghosts in the future happens in part here so yea go vervunhive 👻
Necropolis is my all-time favourite
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I fell in love with this book because it built very organically off the previous two.
It is a book that combines Sharpe (obv) Band of Brothers and Starship Troopers….and Feels like a Roland Emmerich film!