DragonFly V2 All Terrain Seaplane, HK Skipper - Maiden Flight and Thoughts (Part4) RC Sims Discussed
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- DragonFly V2 All Terrain Seaplane, HK Skipper - Maiden Flight and Thoughts
This is RC plane is just like the HobbyKing Skipper 700mm but with different color and decals.
There is also a larger version called the RC Lander Polaris XL EPO 864mm which is not available right now.
Where I got it:
radiosailing.net/collections/...
Alternate vendors:
www.elitemodelsonline.co.uk/B...
www.motionrc.com/products/sky...
Manual:
d3if9wubzr0anm.cloudfront.net...
Specs:
Wingspan: 700mm
Length: 970mm
Wing Loading: 25g/dm²
Flying Weight: 575g
Motor Thrust: 850g
What's in the Box:
Powerful brushless outrunner motor with cowling
40A waterproof brushless ESC with BEC
4x waterproof 9g servos
2x Nylon propellers
Needed to Complete:
1x 2.4GHz 4-channel digital proportional radio control system
1x 11.1V 1300mAh to 2200mAh 35C LiPo Pack
FMS Simulator
fms.software.informer.com/
RC Desktop Pilot (Maybe Better)
drive.google.com/file/d/0B9KM...
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I like the imperfect flying. It let's me know what to watch out for and how it might behave.
Yes Dave, I understand what you are saying about the experience and the challenge of flying. I hadn't thought about that aspect of the sport. But you are correct. Still it was fun to think about what technology could do to help.
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My Skipper flight perfect out of the box.
the way it should be!
Dave! Outstanding performance, my Dude! I like the "The Wind Did It" segment, had me laughing out loud. Thanks for the shout-out, I'm really happy this one, unlike your Skipper, seems to want to take off pretty smoothly. I'll experiment with different "reflex" positions on the ailerons to see if it helps if I run into that issue - which I may. Man, she looks like a jet from the future - great still picture of the "wind doing it"!
I've built a couple Li-Ion packs using big 21700 cells, Molicel P42A ($6 each), 4200mah and 45 Amp discharge. They end up weighing about the same as a Graphene 1500 pack, but I've also inundated mine with a camera VTX, and F411 FC. But hell, I use to fly my old Skipper with 2200mah 3S's, and she flew wonderful, so we'll see! The 21700's have brought all my old big planes to life, while I use 18650's (LG HG2, $5ea, 3000mah 20A) for my fleet of tiny iNav planes. Maybe something you'd be interested in?
Either way, thanks for sharing this series on the Joysway Dragonfly, I look forward to the next project! (mine's a long range, iNav, EPP wing, with 180 pan gimbal and rear-facing camera for chasing, something you're in to also?)
So you really turned the skipper into and FPV plane! I would like to see a video of that on your channel. Maybe to a walk-around so I can see how you have things arranged!
@@DaveMerc Done and done, the least I could do for all you've done for us. To be honest, the freestyle quad thing gets... monotonous after a while, and I let the channel go. But I took plenty of stills during the build, and have a fleet of new planes, maybe time to dust off the ole Adobe suite.
@@GhostRyderFPV Try DaVinci Resolve if Adobe is out of commission, it's a free movie editor
Looks like my next f p V water platform I wonder about that lion for longer Flight times. Thanks for the video goodie
Hey Tommy - Mines got a Matek F411, Foxeer Razr Nano and an AKK 1200mw VTX. I run her on 21700 3S packs, good for 40 amp discharge, for 30 minutes. The li-Ion is a tight fit, but otherwise she's a great bird.
You bet. It's interesting that you want to turn it into an FPV plane.
Hey its the Skipper XL from Hobbyking!
Nice plane. I liked too the glow/gas Stick with floats showing in the video. Do you have videos about they?
That was fun! I have about 4 simulators on a dongle and could never take the simulator seriously. I tried and tried. If people aren't able to use the simulator and aren't committed to spending the 6 weeks 24/7 of learning on one (1000 hours) I highly recommend the GWS Slow Stick. I've been flying now for more than a decade and have the type of Personality that would rather crash in the real world than die of boredom in the virtual world. I've met a lot of my personality out of the club. Great video and thanks for sharing!
Hello Traveler! I found the RC Desk Pilot is free and a little better. But, yeah, the simulators are mostly good at the beginning to get the orientation stuff right and then later if you want to practice stunt maneuvers.
Ha, cool comment. I used to feel the same way about plane simulators, but once I started flying quads, sims taught me a valuable lesson:
It's far cheaper as a noob to try new freestyle tricks on a sim than on your 5" quad. Helped for the first few serious tricks, and then gave the dongle and spare TX to a kid who was interested in quads, but had a limited budget. Many, many moons ago, lol
Do you try landing With Flaperon?
Watching you fly it Dave, I'm sure it would smooth up with a giro, in particular the Roll axis...Just reduces the workload on some models...🤔🤔
It's kind of like flying a RC jet in the way it handles. The control surfaces have to dialed way down. A gyro would help as you say.
@@DaveMerc I fly mine with a gyro receiver, it really helps, stops the aircraft bobbing and zoom climbing.
Well it's good that it doesn't jerk into the sky like your skipper anymore.
Anyone want to buy my Skipper? I will cut you a good deal 🙂
@@DaveMerc Ha-Ha... I would still try to take the skipper off grass to see if it still pitches up on take off. I would say it was the water tension that stuck it to the water then suddenly let go while you has full up elevator.
If it jerks up off of grass them my theory is completely wrong....;-) Please prove me wrong Dave.
The Skipper probably will do ok off the grass. The new plane does ok in the water however. I took the receiver out of the Skipper to use in the DragonFly so the Skipper not going to fly right now but perhaps I will bring it back later.
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Motion RC is going to sell these as the Skynetic Dragonfly, for those looking to buy one.
bro the reason the model leaps off the water is uve got it tail heavy. recheck the center of . dads got one and the cg is slightly off from the box n those holes u filled in are supposed to be there lol they alow you to see the wing spar is in both sides evenly, ie one wing doesnt have to much spar protruding and the other wing doesnt have enough. its easy to measure your wing spar and mark the alfway point using a silver sharpie works well silver sharpie because the wing spar is made of black carbon fiber so i used a silver sharpie becuase it stands out unlike all the rest of the colors in the Rainbow dont show up on a black carbon spar ect instead od adding weight use a larger battery it will solve the CG problem and give better/longer flight times n better servo performance ect ect. hope any of that helps bro.ttyl
Hi DAve, good stuff! you should try a 4S 18650 3000mah for longer flight times! Cheers
That would be cool if the ESC and plane could handle it.
@@DaveMerc they should! They lower max discharge is compensated by the much longer flight times.... Cheers!
The fuse is pretty small inside - I fly mine with a 3S 21700 pack, in the pyramid configuration. 30 minutes isn't an issue.
@@GhostRyderFPV any issues taking off from water with them? Cheers
@@flyingrock6381 I haven't had a chance to get her into water, it's been too hurricane-y round here. But she lifts off the grass just fine :-)
Try a folding Prop! Yes, I know it's not a glider it made a huge difference on my Hobby Flybeam. More than double the glide ratio with folding prop and without landing gear.
It's not a glider, you even said so...
When you posted this I went like "What?!" but I guess it could work. I just think I need to keep a little thrust going for a smooth water landing. It's tricky with float planes.
@@DaveMerc You won't be doing much gliding Dave, trust me on this...lol.
Dave g Ave you seen this version at Motion Rc, for $189.00. They had it at $279.00 for a while no takers most likely,
Thanks for the info!
I put a link in the video description.
that amount simulator training sounds large but I am sure it is true. Wouldn't it be something if software could take the place of the need to switch modes of coming and going. Have controls which know if the plane is coming or going and make the appropriate translation. This was an excellent video thank you I really enjoyed watching.
Hi Glenn, I saw your interesting comment, and did a little digging. A little background first - bought an E-Flite Apprentice many moons ago, and was blown away by the self-leveling that they built into the receiver. Fast forward many moons, I have 5 years of quad racing and freestyle, and a renewed interest in planes.
The flight controllers in quads can easily help stabilize and control fixed wing planes, too. Using a similar software to what we use in quads, (called BetaFlight), as well as hardware , (GPS, compass, smart LEDs, buzzers, camera control), fixed wing planes can do what you mentioned, and a lot more. iNav is the software I'm talking about, and it is a real game-changer. Though I've never used it, there is a mode called "HeadFree" that will take into account the orientation it was in when armed, and change the way the Z axis, Yaw, responds as a result. I've seen this on tiny drones, but not in a plane, but now very interested to try it!
Please have a look at iNav, Dave has a series on it, as well as other known RC 'Tubers.
Flex Innovations has a flight stabilizer that has modes like "knife edge" and "inverted flight" available at the flip of a switch. But to have it switch orientation when it comes towards you would require it to have data on pilot location/direction and the same for the aircraft. Of course it could be done because they have that for drones at a high expense. Still I think part of the pleasure of the sport would be defeated with such a device. If you hate sims the other solution it to get a basher plane that just won't break.
@@GhostRyderFPV Thank you for the reply. I didn't know there was any such options out there. It sounds like you are well experienced. I will look into what you are saying. :-)
@@glennfelpel9785 You're welcome, Glenn. I would like to add, though, that I'm on Team Dave with this particular point. Orientation concerns are very intimidating, but also easily overcome with practice.
P.S. Or, you can go another route entirely, with FPV. Almost everything I fly these days is FPV, and never, ever, have I had an orientation issue, lol
@@GhostRyderFPV You know I had not thought of FPV. I am not up to date on that technology but I would think it must be a thrilling experience. Yes you are right that would be the best of all worlds. Thank you!!
Comm'on how many mid-rolls do you need...?
You talking about my head shots or actual advertising?
Mount a wing gyro for less Adrenaline ‼️😉
Like 22 wish the drones could do that ha ha great to land plane in water and take off in water brilliant
It like having an RC boat and RC plane in one package. Nothing like drones but float planes really get my excitement up. Definitely a different skill set on float planes.