Destiny Debates A Confident But Clearly Wrong Conservative On Brexit And Ukraine
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- DEBATE: Destiny debates Brexit and Ukraine on Counterpoints debate panel ft. DylanBurnsTV, Rob Noer, BeckettofCrabs and Populist Patriot...
Date: 25 Feb, 2023
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00:00:00 Teasers / Intro
00:00:57 Globalism and brexit debate topic and intro
00:13:33 Interconnectivity of capitalism
00:17:54 Central bodies and Infringing on sovereignty
00:30:24 Narratives pushed by elites and populists?
00:37:40 Brexit happened
00:48:40 passport checks in Ireland
00:55:27 Ukraine and US involvement topic
01:11:52 Rob Noer calls out DylanburnsTV
01:22:57 Nationalists don't want to support Ukraine?
01:48:15 Biden and Burisma
01:52:09 "You just said 50 things that are not true"
02:07:02 Post debate video teaser
#destiny
#politics
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Destiny Hashes Out Things 1on1 w/ Conservative Debate Opponent After Panel ►czcams.com/video/NRsaeG7m9sQ/video.html
This is boring. Most of those dudes were dumb af. Can you go back to debating gavin or more big name journos thats juicy content. :3
yes dest! more of dis! xD
What game are u playing???it looks fun.
After this debate Rob is pushing the narrative that you didn’t upload the 1v1 part of this to your top channel because you got destroyed.
SIMP!!
Finally, no debate about feminism or redpill bs. This is the content I've been waiting for.
True and based and real
But what would Pearl say about this
Look at the view count lol
@@notgood2366 I think the fact the video was uploaded at 4 AM and has only been up for 5 hours MIGHT be affecting the current view count.
I saw this and thought it was a repost. I’m like, Destiny debating people that actually know how to debate. And about non redpill issues. Then I saw the blue hair.
Rob is a masterclasses in impressively confident ignorance
I loved the fact he didn't know actually brexit was a globalist project and not a fight against globalism...talk about irony there lol.
@@trololkhil9868 It's not though...talk about the irony of acting just like the person you're trying to dunk on lol.
@@Tinderbiddles it is though...Do you even know what the current offical slogan is post prexit of the UK gov? GLOBAL BRITAIN...
brexit itself was never about less globalism it was about more globalism. Ukip was financed by the russians (as have numerous conservatives) and is butt buddies with Trump and other hard right elements from around the world. If you think the russians or Trump are not globalists, I've got a bridge to sell you.
I would say all of the key politicians who wanted brexit are hardcore disaster capitalists and wanted more globalism not less. More immigration, not less...because they thrive on corruption, chaos and weak regulation to make money.
Rupert Murdoch et al who have financed EU propaganda for more than 30 years is also a hardcore globalist.
There is no irony here except for people like you who only know fractions of the story trying to score some online political points rather than engage with what is being said and thinking about why it's being said..
The problem most people have is they read "i stand for anti-globalist movements" and they don't bother analysing the actions that would support that.
This was brexit in a nutshell: globalists trying to persuade anti-globalists to vote in their disinterest and achieve more globalism where they can profit (and have profited ever since)...
A portion of ignorance sure but there’s a lot of ideologically driven bad faith. So many inconsistencies in his arguments, like discarding sovereignty when it suits his talking points (“poor people of ukraine never had sovereignty” or saying it’s a violation of sovereignty for the EU to assert its own sovereignty over the UK) or the threat Russia poses to Europe (“they would never attack NATO so they aren’t a real threat - but he’s also for dissolving NATO in the same breath).
@@trololkhil9868 That's a lot of words to be wrong, yikes.
For those who care the punchline of the joke is "aye, but are you a protestant atheist, or a catholic atheist?"
Thank you I really wanted to know 😭
Destiny is so right about Rob here. He is literally clueless about Brexit, which is fine, he’s American, not really his wheel house. But the utter confidence and bullish language with which he discusses it is amazing. Lol
It kinda makes me not want to take him seriously about anything.
You should never take Rob seriously on anything. He's basically an isolationist from a time capsule from WW1. He lives in the middle of nowhere rural America and his foreign policy prescriptions are worthless.
Destiny is also wrong on his take with the EU tho, the whole issue with Northern Ireland is because the EU is trying to force customs between NI and UK just to try and protect its internal market, it doesn't care about the safety of those in NI or Ireland or the sovereign integrity of the UK.
@@Schwifter_
It makes perfect sense from the EUs point of view to do that. Obviously they want to protect the single market and the Good Friday agreement, that they are signatories to. It makes more sense to have any potential customs checks in the Irish Sea, not on the island of Ireland. To accommodate this the EU is offering NI a special deal in which they essentially get the best of both worlds, but hard line unionists aren’t happy. The Uk Doesn’t really give a fuck about NI, at this point it’s just a burden to them, but the unionists are like an abused partner that just keeps coming back for more.
@@donovan4222
Depends on the subject, but that’s not only where he gets his info. I’ve watched him read long form studies before and scientific papers, agree with him or not he puts in far more research and work trying to understand subjects than 99% of people.
@@monkeybudge I don't like the idea you can just dismiss the UK's position on this because "it doesn't really give a fuck" It does and that won't change especially when people in NI agree. The UK includes NI and it should not have to treat any part of itself differently that is fair to say. If this was any other country you'd agree, it would be like treating Texas differently to the rest of the US. There are many ways that custom checks can be done without a border, but the EU refuses because it wants to use it as leverage over the UK and dare I say it use it to punish the UK. Take for example how the EU is screwing over the UK in joint scientific pursuits even when other countries outside of the EU are being treated normally (despite the pursuit not actually being a union venture but the EU is throwing its weight) and many within are advocating for the UK to be treated normally, especially when it's also helping to fund said pursuit. The EU is out to punish the UK, it's using the GFA as a weapon, it's doing things that are not advantageous to all involved purposefully. Rob was wrong in his explanations because he didn't fully understand, but he was right in that it was occurring.
If this happened during Trump, Rob would be the most ardent defender of Ukraine.
American politics have devolved into contrarianism.
Iam more on the right and i have no clue why so many right wingers either shit on Ukraine or suck up Putin, it makes no sense to me.
Sure you dont have to dickride Selenski and support everything around Ukraine without asking twice, but damn it dosent go into my head.
Sure i get that the US is again lifting the most when it comes to supporting Ukraine and that isnt fair, we here in the EU should do alot more and hopefully do alot more in the near future when it comes to Nato.
But Putin invading his neighbour (again) and wanting to annex the whole Ukraine is just such a clear thing and i dont udnerstand why so many right wingers cry around on that topic.
The West has to show that shit like that dosent fly, or its just the first step for Russia, China and others to do the same thing again and again.
That's not what contrarianism is, it's called being a partisan hack. And Rob is thankfully not a great representation of American politics.
@@gskills55 Well if the party's policy is being anti everything the opposition stands for, isnt that by extension being a contrarian
@@Massivecarcrash exactly right
Congress would still have sent 100 billion under Trump, Trump would tweet it should end but still sign the bills
Dylan’s understanding of so many countries political systems is rather impressive
He's had one of the most impressive evolutions as a streamer. From discount bloodsports debate panel host to gonzo journalist doing interviews with locals in Zaporizhzhia while it's under fire. Super underrated guy.
He is better than most, but really, people should have a baseline of knowledge if they want to comment on politics in the world. Americans are extremely ignorant as a rule.
I heard he's a CIA asset and his father is actually the director of the FBI. My source is a Twitter tankie so I am gonna assume that means he's doing something good lol
He seems to be so well read.
@@HillBelichick I really disliked him during the bloodsports era he was cringe, but now I actually want to hear what he says.
It's always the ones who know the least who are always the most confident. I can't believe never admitting you're wrong is treated like a virtue by some people
you've described the Dunning-Kruger effect
The more you know the less likely you are to argue a bad point, the less you know the more likely you are to argue against a good point.
isn't destiny like the absolute most confident debater in the whole scene practically?
@@maximthefox Lol... MYTH BUSTED.
So, you mean Destiny?
"You see Dylan is a master of sleight of hand by providing context to different circumstances"
Rob didn't even know Brexit DID happen. If he had even a shred of dignity he would've left the stream right then. Jesus Christ.
How you figure that? Just because Destiny says so doesn't make it so. He's not paying attention while playing SC2.
@@KissSlowlyLoveDeeply-pm2je Rob himself said it; one of the other people in the panel said that Brexit "did not achieve its goals" and Rob assumed that meant Brexit did not happen. It was embarrasing to see.
@@lobohombreriera No he meant that Brexit did not happen as promised, which is true. Even today there are decisions being made in Northern Ireland. You're American so you probably don't know where Northern Ireland even is or what the conflict is about.
Brexit has been a disaster
Rob thinks the debate is about Triscuits most likely. Everything is some salty, dry and dull conspiracy.
Rob has really nailed the whole "Sounding so excited to get his arguments out there that he's about to cry" tone of voice.
The older guy on the panel was hilarious. Everything he rambled about was met with complete silence and a change of subject.
Source?
@@uberawnsom watch the debate. Look at every time he spoke. He received almost no engagement from anyone. He was horrible to listen to
Brexit as a debate topic among mostly americans will never stop being funny.
We all get the same news now , this isn’t 1980
Brits talk about American politics all the time. This is a rarity, I would soak it in while you can.
@@redshift912 then how are you still so informant and wrong about everything lmao
@@Klamev talk about uninformed. it was the brits that were stupid enough to vote for it lol!
@@nixon4731 Oh I'm not questioning the ability of an american to be capable enough on the subject to debate. It's the chances of enough americans on these types of debates to have this capability that makes the vast majority of them really funny to listen to.
As a European Englishman. I can't wait to hear Rob Noer explain brexit to me
Update: halfway through and still waiting for any kind of intelligent analysis from ol' Rob over there...
Did you know you're still part of the EU?
@@Imperial_Squid You know how Vaush is always in a race to compare everything to the Weimar Republic? That’s Rob when it comes to Trump or ‘Institutions’ and ‘elites’.
Rob is the textbook example of what a real life NPC sounds like. No amount of facts or appeals from reality can break him free of his programmed dialogue tree.
1:25:40 Rob has a severe misunderstanding of how sovereignty works here. If you do not have a monopoly on violence or force, your sovereignty is moot and/or nonexistent. Syria has been in a civil war for over a decade and still has millions of its civilians spread across the Middle East/Europe as refugees, it is a failed state. Comparing the US attacking terrorists within Syria’s borders to terrorists being bombed by another nation in the US or Canada is silly.
You could argue they don’t have any sovereignty because they are a totalitarian dictatorship. They are run by one person. Or a group of elites. Not the people.
"Isn't it weird that..." is all Rob does. That's his whole gimmick. He's a master conspiracy theorist.
So a modern conservative.
@@Demo5 q anon never went away it just merged with the GOP
@@ANTIStraussian I don’t believe you. But I think that it’s just to terrifying of a thought to accept.
Day in the life of a true brexit geezer
Get up from his Swedish bed, drive his German car, eat at an Indian take out, support his Chinese or Arab owned local football club, watch an American TV show, and get a pint of Belgian beer.
@@steviewang4102
Eh, probably not Belgian beer. As a Belgian beer enthusiast I would always get nasty looks from that lot for ordering it. If they’re not drinking British they’re likely having German lager, an Irish ale or a Danish weissbeer.
@@steviewang4102 This is evidence that they need less multiculturalism
@@luxborealis Stella is the most Brexit pint out there
Rob really has quite an amazing talent of being able to evade any type of coherent thought going into his head.
I know this is the destiny fanbase, but without us getting all heated and start throwing ad hominems, can you explain your comment? Because I keep seeing people make very generalized jabs at rob without no examples from the episode or any time stamps or anything. It's just a broad statement.
For your reference, I'm majority right leaning but a destiny fan on multiple subjects.
@@TubeWusel Well, let me give you my perspective. One guy comments: "Rob is a masterclass at impressively confident ignorance".
Okay... Not much said there just an opinion, no specific example of a topic that was discussed. But, we'll move on its not that big of a deal.
Second comment: "Its always the ones who know the least who are always the most confident. I can't believe never admitting you're wrong is treated like a virtue by some people."
Uhmmm sure yeah that's cool but uhhh.... Wrong about what exactly? We'll move on I'm sure I'll find something.
Comment 3: "Destiny is so right about Rob here. He is literally clueless about Brexit, which is fine, he's American. Not his wheelhouse. But with the utter confidence and bullshit language with which he discussed it is amazing."
This is where the context should have happened -
"Destiny is so right about Rob here. He is literally clueless about Brexit (RIGHT HERE THATS WHERE THE CONTEXT SHOULD BE PLACED - WRONG ABOUT WHAT??), which is fine, he's American. Not his wheelhouse. But with the utter confidence and bullshit language with which he discussed it is amazing."
So yeah... I'm pretty confident my original comment is still valid.
@@TubeWusel you just did exactly what he said lol give examples.
@@TubeWusel I mean, for an outsider (like me), I’d also like to know the specific hot points that made people so vaguely upset at Rob. I mean, I’m watching the video, yea, but it’s two hours long and time stamps of fighting highlights are never a bad idea…
@@misternobody855 he didn't know what brexit was, 37:00
"Abolish NATO!" omg this guy...
These anti nato westerners are "hiding their power level".
They actually respect russia and putin
They are so hyper focused on the complexity of American politics they see everywhere else with rosie glasses.
Just resentful towards the west.
Brexit is a great example of telling stupid people stupid things leads to stupid outcomes.
Hey now, around half of us figured out it was a bad idea at least...! Can't vouch for the half of my countrymen who were dipshit enough to go along with it but we're not all pleased with how things have gone...
People were thinking they would finnaly stop and deport Muslims that are infiltrating every city in England, and molesting English children,,they were wrong, globalists are still in power in England and are allowing africans and arabs to come
@@crocrox2273 as I said, stupid people.
Just how many Muslim countries are in the EU? (None)
how many UK governments have cut immigration? (None)
It's a simple equation...
Tell stupid people stupid things...get a stupid outcome. Because their vote actually made it easier for Muslims to get into the UK as the immigration would be more likely to come from outside the EU...where the Muslim countries are.
Also, did you campaign to get all the English people who molest children to be deported? There's far far more of them...
@@Imperial_Squid Maybe the idea was that the bad outcomes must be taken in stride with the ideological goal of separating from an unwanted moloch? You know, like you people love to ascribe to places like Hongkong or scotland.
@Imperial_Squid I've head one person say he voted for brexit because of the disrespect the EU showed Cameron, someone he admitted he wanted to KLL because he's corrupt 🙄 without sarcasm either
It's not at all surprising that Rob is so confident in his completely incorrect statements, but hot damn was I triggered in the first preview clip of Rob not even knowing that the UK did leave the EU... Then a bit later he keeps arguing that the EU was nefariously hurting the UK for leaving, but when Steven asks him for examples or evidence... _he's literally in the middle of reading an article to form his arguments because he doesn't know wtf he's talking about on any of this!_
Really can't believe rob said Destiny supported the riots as if his comments on the riots didn't fucking ignite the online politics space lmao. Like theres no excuse, it's just a blatant mischaracterization for the sake of saving the narrative. Rob isn't dumb, he's desperate.
Huge credit to the moderator, that was about as good of a job as one could do. Kept the discussion to main point, let everyone speak, didn't get involved despite being passionate about the issue as he said himself. Great job.
Rob may well be my go-to example of "confidently wrong" from now on.
ah yes the classic "every time my guy gets overwhelming evidence of his crimes presented it was actually because he was about to expose their corruption and they had to stop him" thanks rob
holy shit I assumed Rob Noer defected to Russia and died in the war or something - I legit haven't heard of him since Dylan left lmfao
No that was coach redpill
@@hellshakeyano7686 the online rightwing grifters all kinda just blend together in my head since they borrow eachothers' talking points.
Coach Redpill is also alive, he just changed his channel to Gonzalo Lira, IIRC. I think his excuse was that he had to because NATO put him on a hitlist so he had to make his channel name his real name to doubledoxx himself or some nonsense. He claims the reason for his disappearance was that he got arrested and tortured by the SBU but bravely resisted and he is now in hiding in a top secret location in Kharkiv waiting for Russian liberation from the roving Nazi bands that forces him to never show any pictures outside his room, but he definitely has pics you guys. Just gotta keep them secret besides with trusted friends in case the Nazis doxx him. What most people are thinking actually happened is that people reported his propaganda streams to the SBU who picked him up, saw his Chilean passport, and put him on a train to the temporary Chilean-Ukrainian embassy in Lublin, Poland. Because of his legal troubles back home he then refused to go to Chile and instead ran away to either Amsterdam, London or St. Petersburg, and is streaming from one of those places.
Repent to God
The simple fact that Rob DIDN'T KNOW that Brexit ACTUALY HAPPENED... And yet still yelled as if he knew everything on the subject is really indicatif.
Can I get a compilation of Rob Nore flubbing his words after a clip of him joking about biden misspeaking? Would be epic.
To be fair he talks 100x the speed as Biden haha
@@cryxbaby2250 While sounding like he is on the verge of bursting into tears the entire time. Truly inspiring.
Why is it that even with a fellow bonger on the panel the brexit convo was still shit.
Dylan picked up the slack but there never seems to be informed conversations on why brexit 'wasn't achieved' or why it won the vote in the first place.
The red lines never come up; and they are instrumental in showing the fundamental problems with brexit.
The main reasons for voting for brexit was just an extension of sentiment against thatcher right de-industrialisation, the 2008 financial crisis and the austerity that followed, a SMALL amount of migrant crisis hysteria and anti immigration rhetoric and a general trend of populist 'closer to home' democracy will solve our deteriorating post empire and public infrastructure decline.
You don't need to bring in the ira or some political class conspiracy to explain it.
Also brexit wasn't going to and will never solve any of the issues the uk faced; they where all problems of national politics in the first place.
Most people who voted either for and even against brexit didn't really know what they where voting for or against; or how intertwined the uk was with the eu or how any form of brexit will impact the uk.
well said
Eh, I think your view there is coloured by the North. At the time I lived in one of the suburban areas near London that had a lot of brexiteers, and immigration was definitely the number one issue for voting leave in those parts, followed by complaining about foreign products at Tesco and Sainsbury’s. What you talk about is more what I saw visiting family in Newcastle, Glasgow and Swansea.
@@luxborealis I literally am from and live in the south. And no.
Immigration was a wide spread talked about issue and if you polled brexit voters a majority of them would say they where worried about immigration. But that does not translate to a defining reason for or the basis of a reason for voting for it.
Without the decline in town centres, manufacture jobs, public services and the like, de-industrialisation, privatisation of everything and a general decline in quality of life people wouldn't need to find scape goats like immigration.
Sure you could say immigration tipped the scales or was the most vocalised or was the easiest attack line for lefty pro eu people like me to use on pro brexiters. But that will not help to nor does it stand to use immigration as the defining issue.
It was always a symptom of wider issues not the defining reason or issue.
@@luxborealis Just incase you read the first response. Here is some additional explanation:
You ask any brexiteer about there reasons for voting for it immigration will probably come up first or second.
However you ask them about immigrants they've interacted with ie.
Their south asian or Commonwealth doctor or nurse who is caring and speaks great english or their recently emigrated hard working eastern european colleague or cleaner or tradesman etc. Or even for the classic stereotyped local indian, chinese or thai place they'll have nothing but nice words about all of them.
However its the elusive schrodingers immigrant taking our jobs and lounging off benefits they'll complain about.
No problem with some immigration just against mass immigration.
And on that they have valid criticism. Successive tory and labour governments have ok'd and relied upon immigrants for shitty agriculture, hospitality, etc. Jobs rather than push for innovative tech or better wages for those jobs.
The reason they are against immigration is always for an underlying issue of poorly paid jobs, or lack of manufacturing jobs, or powerless unions, or no affordable housing or any number of other issues that almost always arent the fault of immigrants.
That's without the racism aspect.
I really do think and feel that the brexit voting major majority even with the pro eu crowd trying to paint them as, all the vox pops you can muster, all the lefty rhetoric and with the out spoken brexit supporters tainting them as such they aren't racist. A small minority of the brexit voters where actually out and out racist.
Unknowingly mildy racist maybe but anti immigrants themselves for the sake of it; no.
Repent to God
Whilst it is highly amusing to see a panel of (mostly) Americans debate on Brexit, I'm also quite impressed by their level of knowledge on the topic.
It's been through the Twitch debate circus a lot some years ago and it nicely provided a platform for both sides to align with. Don't think this panel of mainly politics focused creators encompasses any kind of average.
I dunno, it's all pretty base level.
What knowledge?
@@matt_9112 Definitely not average but impressive to me as Americans are often portrayed as people that generally don't care about anything going on outside of America.
That and I've seen several political commentators who have fumbled around the Brexit topic so it was somewhat refreshing to see that (mostly) everyone there had a good understanding of what was going on.
@@wout4yt You'd think so but they covered far more than I expected.
As pointed out by Destiny at the end of the first topic, Rob came to the debate with a narrative about why things occurred and talking points to go with the narrative but absolutely nothing to substantiate the bridge he was trying to lay between cause and effect. He does this with every single topic he every talks about but I've never seen him step in shit so quickly by not knowing anything about the facts or opposing viewpoints (i.e. - that the current and following administrations were ill-prepared to make Brexit a reality rather than that it was a secret coverup to go against the will of the people). This is what happens when a political hack tries to do international politics - the actual facts and people involved aren't funneled through their American right wing echo chambers, and without this feeder system of media, they end up trying to put the carriage before the horse in terms of spinning their narrative and come off as obviously deluded. Big woopsy for Rob.
Beautiful In'nt
Rob should be careful with all that hard pivoting, he might be liable for causing whiplash injury. Lawsuit waiting to happen.
That much weight pivoting that hard on his ankles can't be good. They just be close to snapping. 💀
Robs only chance to win is his ability to gishgallop like a mad man.
it doesn't work but he sure fucking tries
Overall, loved the topic. Didn’t like that it wasn’t so much a debate as it was the panel trying to educate a really shouty guy with weirdly strong opinions on stuff he didn’t understand.
You can see him googling articles to read on the fly. Like at 37:00 when he Googled how Brussels hurt uk after brexit and he picked the top result.
This is really depressing to me because my brother talks really “passionately” about things he couldn’t know less about.
He also uses words like matrix and npc in his arguments to give you an idea of what he might believe.
Is your brother Sneako?
Tell em get off the Internet and read encyclopedias. He may think its all a psyop to hurt him.
@@Lala-kc2fw it's funny, when I asked him where he found out that the water was poisonous he screamed back "do your own research!"
@@VA-gu1jq no, just a dumber variant. He wants to start a youtube channel for fitness but is afraid of getting kicked off for his "alternative views." He then mentioned making a rumble account, and I asked what was so bad he had to share a platform with racists and homophobes.
@@VinnieGer bro that shit is tragic 😞 I have a few friends I’m trying to push over the line on trans issues but I’m lucky to not be surrounded by fully ignorant people in my life
My new favorite thing is when Destiny makes a point then says "based" to himself 🤣🤣🤣
Bro Rob is talking so ardently about Brexit and didn’t even know that the UK left the EU. Genuinely the most baffling moment in a debate recently
37:00
Am I the only one who thinks that most of what Rob says is mostly just performing? He has his q anon beliefs and doesn’t care how he gets there aslong as he can say them. Ie pivoting from the uk in an eu discussion to the fbi in America.
BeckettofCrabs summation of Brexit at the start is the most accurate take I've heard in a long long time.
The depths of Rob Noerr's knowledge on different topics should make him wholly unqualified to have these debates.
Why is this drama/ red pill/ dating advice channel suddenly doing politics?
whats funny is no one in the uk is talking about seriously rejoining the eu for a really long time because it would be really fucking weird to do so
I caught some of this live. Thank you, August, for blessing me in time for work tomorrow
There was in fact no plan. Additionally this dude compares the us leaving the un to brexit when that would be so much easier. Brexit is closer to Texas leaving the union.
GIVING US THE CONTENT WE WANT AND NEED!
No more sjw incel debates
He looks exactly like someone who gets everything wrong. Stereotype galore.
Did Rob Noer not know that the UK left the EU???
Still haven’t technically. Until something is sorted within Northern Ireland. Northern Ireland is running under different rules currently
@@damedusa5107 They absolutely have. Norther Ireland just is in a special position. But the rest of UK is out of the EU in every sense of the word.
@@Philipp2040 Northern Ireland is part of the Uk. By having a special position currently (which is still being negotiated) means that the whole uk hasn’t left technically yet. I don’t get how you are trying to argue this, you literally just said it yourself. It’s still wrapped up in temporary rules.
@@damedusa5107 The customs union and the EU are two separate things, one is a free trade agreement and set of rules for trade, the other is a political union with a set of institutions capable of passing and enforcing laws approved by member states.
Norway is an example of a non-EU member that is in the customs Union but still very much not a member of the EU.
@@ddandymann and? It has nothing to do with what I’ve stated. Britain voted to come out of the EU in it’s entirety. So what you are attempting to say is irrelevant
The conservative guy was wrong but he sounded like a nice guy. Destiny had chemistry with him.
They have talked before. Destiny got him to concede that trans people could in some cases get a gender reassignment surgery
@@BonShulawas he the "if you woke up with your brain in a female body what would you do?" "change my body" "so you agree with trans people" "I guess?!" guy?
@@Imperial_Squid yes
@@pepelechad536 based
@@BonShula Hold up I'm pretty sure the OP was talking about the other guy not Rob. Rob spent most the debate complaining about democrats and calling Destiny and especially Dylan bad faith without substantiating anything,
I was going to make a destiny is a girls name joke. But I chose a better path forward.
inshallah brothers
As an Irish person, it rustles my jimmies when Americans refer to Northern Ireland as Ireland during Brexit debates.
Sorry man
That's quite a partitionist mindset.
@@gocartmozart2649 I know, so, Republican and nationalistic.
Americans reading this are Confused probably
It’s okay as long as you call the other bit South Ulster.
you can't expect Americans to know anything about other countries.
At 1:06:02. "The people of Ukraine haven't had national sovereignty ever since they left the soviet union" I am just flabbergasted at how some people's job is to say words and they get paid actual real currency to say things like this. Regardless of your opinions of Ukraine, Russia, Globalism, America and Geopolitics in general just the fact that you could conceive to utter such a statement makes me welcome the day when all content is A.I. generated, because A.I. is far more coherent and logical than that.
I was really confused that no one interjected there. It was so baffling, especially coming from the person who's advocating against unions like the USSR.
As someone from Northern Ireland, my God this is painful across the board. So much misinformation and incorrect facts across the board.
Fuck me, quoting Ruth Dudley Edwards as a decent commentator on Brexit and the NI protocol is insanity.
Dylan came out with the HEAT on rob and I loved it. GG
This panel is a good example of how America gets globalism wrong. 4 Americans and a token Brit.
I hate the text to speech that often interrupts destiny in the middle of his point.
I hate these people that say we're sending money to Ukraine when we're sending equipment valued at whatever amount. It's a very clear and very big distinction, sending them ready-to-use equipment is arguably more valuable than sending them money just for them to then find someone with the equipment ready to sell and then have to negotiate that process which would take longer for them to acquire the needed material.
This is an important point.
yes and the equipment magically materializes and does not have to be paid for by the tax payer
@@buniesinfernal7979 Did you know that it costs more for us to maintain this material than it does to send it to another country? Did you know that this material is typically several years old and part of our ever growing stockpile of unused material? Did you know that this snarky little President Runday comment you made was pure brainrot?
@@buniesinfernal7979 it’s almost as if america spend billions and billions on our millitary that we have a surplus of old weapons
@@julianresto6385 yea its not like we have been at war of some form with someone somwhere on this planet for my entire life and using said weapons so we have to keep buying new ones to keep defence contractors well paid.
Apparently 'Real Brexit' has never been tried before
Brexiteers Communists
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"Yeah but that's not a _true_ implementation of "
the mod kept shutting down nevin when he was bringing weighty evidence to the table, why did he keep shutting down nevin?
"My ignorance is just as good as your intelligence!" -Rob
Dylan actually held his own in this one, was good.
Dude's definitely good at what he does lol
This Rob guy is hard to endure. Holy shit.
I enjoy the fact that Rob is the only panelist who doesn’t get a channel shouted out in the video description despite having the title/teasers built around him. (Edit: It’s been fixed, but I’ll still savor the initial shade of it all.)
He did all his shouting during the panel, lol.
Dude is such a spineless shill for Russia lol. Should get him some kneepads for that..
It's always the same with him. Conspiracies without substantiation, rant, and ad homs on how everyone but him is faith bc no one else wants to buy into what he's saying. He's such a partisan hack.
I feel like August does that a lot with the more disagreeable people with small channels.
Personally, I think all people who add to content for the channel should get a mention in the description.
If you're afraid of promoting them, why even have them on?
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@@shizzlepecksalways someone that has to be cringe with it
@@shizzlepecks but destiny is a womens name.
Ah you gotta feel bad for Rob. Brother didn’t know they left lmao
Rob is a dead ringer for Josh Fuerstein. And that’s no compliment.
Get twitter files man to moderate all debates he’s way too good
How did I miss this steam!?? Finally some content😊
Rob Noer the King 👑 of the Gish Gallop
Anyone know the name of game he's playing in the background?
The Dylan guy is good
Does anyone know the opening song used in destiny’s opening teaser?
Notice how the host was misgendering destiny (the black woman) from the first few seconds of the video? Abhorrent!
I thought the title was being tongue-in-cheek on purpose for clickbaits but then I saw that the conservative is Rob.
The PANELS! I love the panel cast.
love me some Dylan and Destiny
Hearing Rob talk about the UK is giving me an aneurysm
I'll never know Ed Sheeran's NI joke about the Athiest now...
It is amazing how little everyone in this panel knows about history lmao.
Especially Rob. I mean the others know little but Rob knows even less lmao.
1:56:03 The reason we call the Dark Ages the Dark Ages is because we know very little about what was happening during that time because there was not very much recorded since the Roman Empire just fell and the Germanic tribes that replaced them were not immediately keen on writing down what was happening... You had writing happening before it when the Romans were around and you had it after when the Carolingians were doing interesting stuff like founding the next big empire in the middle of Europe...
Oh, this was on Friday.
Glad, it was uploaded for 2x speed.
The moderator likes poisoning the well .
WHAT GAME IS IT IN THE BACKGROUND?
Rob just doesn't understand anythig about Brexit. He compared it to leaving the UN but that's not true.
When the Brexit vote happened nobody really knew what that meant. It was only after the vote passed that certain issues arised.
For example, many Brexiteers wantes to stay in the customs union. The terminology of "hard" vs "soft" Brexit is something every British person will understand but Rob doesn't.
"Confident but wrong conservative"
So a conservative.
The video title is so diplomatic and anti-clickbait 😂 this is new
nah thats old destiny/august
Rob saying nationalist countries give more power to the people, lmfao nazi germany gave a lot of power to the citizen huh? Soviet Russia gave a lot of power to its people huh? What guy…
The fact that you hear national/ist/ism and only connect it to one or two countries shows the programming is complete.
Every country in the world was for nationalism until the world wars. Even afterwards, the desire to remain separate in laws, customs, and culture is what makes nationalism.
I live in the UK, Rob has no idea what he was talking about.
The brexiteers lied about what brexit meant before the referendum, then afterwards they didn't have the bargaining power to negotiate anything they promised.
Once this became clear they lied about ever making the promises and changed the definition of brexit to mean brexit.
The referendum result was absolutely symbolic, there was no legal obligation to follow through with brexit, it was just a survey.
Now, we negotiate a trade deal with an african country, who, has a trade deal with the EU. The terms of their trade deal with the EU means their internal market has to conform to EU regulations. We then have to agree to sell goods to that country, that conform to EU regulations....
It's a fucking joke.
Yeah, but have you considered Bill Gates Facebook Twitter files Democrat hypocrisy? Or perhaps Barisma Cloud Flare Clinton cover-up?
After all, AOC nuclear bombed Sudan with Chinese ICBMs.
Source: I made it the fuck up, just like Rob
August, how you gonna link the Warhammer channel
I see that republican DSP has gone to the President Sunday school of debating where as long as you can quibble some pedantic technicality it means you automatically win the debate.
Rob is the most bad faith debater
1:12:00 was hilarious.
What game is playing in the background?
They Are Billions
Ah a small hippydippy, how much I have missed this
I wanted to hear the joke...
I've been following Brexit since the vote and I'm surprised how much destiny knows about the topic.
Brexit was an extremely complicated economic and sovereignty debate sold to the public as a simplified debate over cookie cutter culture war issues.
Has Counterpoints moderated a panel before? He’s pretty good at it.
Its not only that the member state can vote for representatives in the EU. The expansion from Economic Cooporation Zone to Union was also voted on by all the member states publics.
Typical Rob Noer who knows nothing about anything.
At the end of the day the Leaders in the EU could not afford to let Brexit succeed because if it did they knew other countries would quickly follow! Its that simple! There doesn't need to be a 'dark shadowy cabal' explanation!!!
I don't agree with this. The UK were one of the only countries that could actually afford to leave the EU. There aren't many other candidates for a Brexit type situation.
And I just don't see what the EU did to sabotage Brexit. Can you point to any examples? It seems to me that the EU were willing to give the UK everything they wanted