How to PROPERLY Lower Your Car // BC Digressive Coilovers & MORE!!!
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- čas přidán 23. 11. 2022
- Changing out the factory suspension on my Civic, along with the Skunk2 lowering springs is something that I very much looked forward to, and today is that day! The ride height with the lowering springs was nice to look at, but that’s as far as it goes. They would make the tire rub in the wheel well, I would bottom out the factory shocks, and it would not be ideal at the track.
The upgraded BC Racing DS series 1 way coilovers can be selected with so many different spring rates, dampers that have been matched to the spring rates, adjustable ride height, with adjustable dampening and rebound, not to mention they have adjustable top hats to allow me to dial in the front camber.
To give the Civic’s suspension that extra little touch, some adjustable rear camber arms and roll center correctors will come into play! Both are made from billet aluminum, both very strong, and both crucial to dialing in the suspension.
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Thank-you for dumbing it down for the newbies and refreshing some of us O.G.'s to the Suspension game.
Thanks Mike 👊 I appreciate you stopping by
What happened to this guy? He was one of my fav guys!
Milan you don’t even know how helpful your videos are when im stuck with my fb6🥰much love from the GTA✊🏿
I'm happy to hear that brother! Feel free to share the vids 👊
I love your channel! Easy and straight forward video!
Thanks man! I appreciate it 👊
I wish this video was out when I installed my new coilovers this summer. Amazing video man
Thanks man! I appreciate it 👊
Dude thank you for showing the rear damper adjustment. I bought a 9th gen with previously installed BC coilovers, and I did not know that the rear adjustment knobs are separate from the strut until watching your video. Every other video just talks about them without showing.
Amazing video man I’m so glad I found some one that is working on my car specifically and goes in to details 🔥🙏
Glad to hear it Brian! Feel free to sub if you haven't 👊
Yooo!! I missed you!! I needed these videos. I am glad that you are back.
Happy to hear that buddy!
Pretty Kool stuff champ. Mini is looking good by the way
Love the video! Can’t wait for the set up video
Working on it as we speak 🤙
Incredible video bro very detailed quality and the information really good
Glad you liked it! Feel free to share 👊
I run Truhart struts ,Swift R springs(1.2"),Godspeed Rear Camber Kit,Progress 22mm RSB and SPC front bolts on my 2013 FB6. Love the set up for a daily. I also run the Truhart subframe brace . Great vid!
Is Godspeed any good? How long have u had
Does your 2013 not have the rear diffuser piece? Unless you have it removed, how do you see it?
Thanks brother!
@@ohreallydon i havent had any issues, been installed for months.
@@milanmastracci The middle and rear underbody panels are removed. I also have a Beaks bar installed on the Truhart brace. You can see it all.
Hey man! Just found your channel and it’s soooo well done. Had to sub right away. The one question I have, after installing the Tein Flex Z kit on my 12 Si is, do I ‘need’ those ball joint spacers? This is the first time I ever heard of them
Hey !!! Nice to see you again
Hey, thanks! You too 👊
Thank you I’m studying your vids to turn my 9thgen civic coupe into a track attack machine, thank you!
Bro, same. Glad I stumbled upon these vids. My 9th gen is about to undertake a “rebirth”
Hey man, my names Eeshan. I live down your street. Said hey a couple times not sure if you remember. Just want to say you got some sick videos. Keep it up
From the looks of it my 8th gen should have the same setup which makes things easy I'll definitely be doing this when I get coilovers
Very true! The 8th and 9th gens are quite similar, but not identical. The sway bar design is different up between both chassis.
great video, thanks and best regards
He’s back 🔥🔥
Haiii 👋
Love your videos bro
Thanks brother!! 🙌
are the supporting mods a necessity for all cars when changing coilovers? i have a 2013 g37 coupe but i just lowered the frame without camber. i used the new z1 s-pro coilovers, so there’s not an option to adjust camber which i didn’t want to
For the rear shocks dont you have to install the bushings prior to thr shock going up into the final resting place? What about the other bushings that goes on top of the shock from the trunk area?
Do 8th gen ball joints fit on 9th gen? K-tuned makes 06-11 civic roll center adjusters that is pretty much a ball joint and spacer assembly.
Hey nice video , when I click on the rear shock bushing link it says it does not fit my car which is the same as yours , I cannot find it anywhere else
If you have a big c clamp you get those studs out without having to remove the ball joint from the knuckles. Just did this job made it way easier.
Happy to hear you found an alternative method! 🤙
Acura Ilx have the same suspension setup btw guys 😊
If you really look at the chassis of the 1st gen ilx, it is the exact same chassis as 9th gen civic
It’s actually not I bought some coilovers and the knuckle bolts are different ur camber will looks all messed up if u do get it on even with adjustable camber arms
@@robertperez300 was it 2012 coils or 2015???
When I click on your energy suspension upper shock bushing link it goes to Amazon and says it does not fit my car which is a 2013 Civic Si? Are these just up to 2011 or will these fit the 2013? Thanks
Hey man, love the videos you put out very helpful 👍🏾
I'm looking at getting these coilovers for my CL7 Euro R (similar to the the TSX) mainly driven for trackdays. What spring rates would you recommend if I were to go with swift springs or normal springs? I run the car on semi slicks (235/40r18 on 18x8.5 rims)
Any help would be greatly appreciated 🙏🏽
Happy to hear that Kyle!! So selecting spring rates depends on a bunch of things, such as overall weight, weight distribution, sway bar selection, square vs staggered fitment, suspension travel, etc. With that being said, my suggestion is to go with whatever is offered from BC racing as the standard springs, drive with that setup for a bit, and then if you want to change them out you can, or if you're satisfied with those rates, then purchase swift springs. That is a very universal way to approach aftermarket suspension.
If you want to go in depth more, look up motion ratios, spring frequencies, etc and you'll learn a bunch about it. There's a lot that goes into getting your suspension dialed in perfectly.
Nice video
Thanks Johnny!
Milan, i have Honda Civic si 2015 stock and i really wanna work on it and ur videos are very helpful and gives me lot of motivation to work on it but i am scared i will mess up something. Any suggestions? Also the civic is my daily. I would also really appreciate it if you link the exact coilovers you got.
Hey brother! My suggest is to do as much research as possible before hand so you know what you're getting into when buying / upgrading parts. I'd suggest starting off with doing your preventative maintenance like fluid changes, spark plugs, serpentine belt, and the simpler things, so that you get an idea of what its like working on the underside of these cars. It will also mean you will have to start acquiring some tools. Once you get comfortable with that, feel free to start upgrading the car. You should only put money towards upgrading your ride given it isn't going to be breaking down on you. Hope that helps!
This video is a good one to start off with: czcams.com/video/fa2aDAlb6ZM/video.html
Whatever happened to that 300hp built k24 you were going to put in this car?
Can you install top and bottom brace bars
Future reference if you’re going to do suspension work, and the rotor is going to slide forward in the control arm, remove the axle nut and slide the axle out so that I can lay freely or else you risk blowing out your CV bearing
i put ds series coils on a b5 passat before, i tried every single setting on them and no matter what i did they were bouncy af, was under my car over 50 times in one year trying to dial them in making a setting at a time, i had zero issues with camber toe etc. the alignment was perfect but there were no after market options that i could find for arms that were in stock so i did a whole refresh with new oem arms, ball joints etc and had poly bushing installed by a mechanic with a press........ i left them at the settings they came out of the box on initial install, made sure to torque everything to spec at ride height, i tried slamming it, i tried a 1.25 inch drop which was where i thought it was optimal, and literally every click from soft to stiff and couldnt stop the front end from bouncing after even the slightest bumps which made it feel like it was floating and unpredictable..... they were horrible for that car so i spent alot of time researching and came to find out that digressive coilovers like the ds series are so hard to find critical damping becuase all the damping is up front instead of being linear where the damping gets tighter the further shock travels... after a year of trying everything i could think of i only managed tolerable but not enjoyable....
at income tax time i chalked it up and got the BR series kit and the swift spring upgrade and it was perfect for that platform. no more bounce! they rode a little harder over the worst bumps than stock but bumps felt way more comfortable/predictable than the DS but it took corners like a champ and actually felt good to hit the back roads.... and it didnt feel like it was going to break my spine in half over a large bump doing 90 on the highway like the ds
i did read somewhere that ds were great for drifting and autocross, but for an aggressive daily where someone just likes going on spirited drives i think the br series was aimed for the end user to be almost plug and play out of the box with less guess work.... im not saying other people will or wont have the same experience, maybe i could have done something different like take the car in for corner balancing, and have it set up by professionals after having my wallet raped... this was the first time ive ever had a coilover give me this many problems and its my 5th car that ive had lowered over the years..... or maybee i could have taken the arms off a different b5 car and change the suspension geometry a little bit or something if i was better at math.... im just saying for me it was a nightmare when most of the aftermarket was already gone for the car at the time..
Do you know what the spring rates were? I wonder if they were too stiff, or maybe if the dampening was set correctly to the spring rates? Even some of the recommended spring rates that companies offer are not ideal for the weights and everything of the car. It's tough to say what your situation was.
I've ran digressive coilovers before with success, but I'm happy to hear the BR's with swifts are working for you!
@@milanmastracci after looking it up on ecs tuning..... 7k Front & 6k Rear Spring Rate... the car weight was like 3400lbs i think. it had no adjustment for rebound but i did try every damping setting front and rear one at a time, and then dialed it back to where i found i liked it best, which eventually i found it to be better with the front being 2 clicks stiffer than the rear so it was something like 5 clicks front and 3 clicks rear from softest.... it could have been the fact that i was running 17s instead of the stock 16s(same tire size diameter on some General GMAX as05s), or that i did something wrong when torquing the control arms at ride height(which i find hard to believe after 5 different attempts driving the car up on blocks to loosen and re-torque with the car perfectly level on the ground)
i do believe that bc racing does the proper amount of r&d and wouldnt just slap together a crappy coilover... so i guess? the spring rates were probably fine? maybee i should have went with the swifties... i think it had to be user error more than anything or a part i should have replaced or added but didnt know about or couldnt find like those little blocks you installed for your ball joints and thats really hard for me to admit to myself much less the internet but ill never know.... i sold the car for $12k after putting 8k worth of aftermarket parts into it....
Does this correct bump steer
whats up bro., everytime you adjust the height do i need to go for an alignment? thanks
Yes
@@corey9763 thanks bro., what if i put too much preload
Went to install my bc coils on my car and used this video as reference. I couldn’t even get past breaking the strut bolt loose it seems to be welded to the hole. How come it was so easy for MILAN? Used an impact gun and even soaked in wd-40
Oh my gosh! It shouldn't be that snug on there lol
Don't be scared to be a bit rough with it.
Is there any control arms for fg4s ? Can’t find any besides oem
Which arms are you referring to? Fronts? Rears?
do they maike a full true set of coilovers for 8th and 9th gens?
I have seen some from smaller companies, but for the most part, this chassis hasn't seen much push to true coilovers.
Great video for a neglected civic platform, 😅if you dont need those front bolts can i have them lol
Thanks brother! Not sure if I need them or not, so we'll see 🤷♂️
9:22 does anyone know the torque specs or where I can find them
When u said click the link above to see how to fully adjust the suspension, the link didnt pop up on the screen in the top right. Can u give me the link to that please? Lol
That's because that video is not out yet. It is the next one in cue 👍
@@milanmastracci thats what i thought. Thanks for your all of your videos.
-Every 9th Gen Owner.
Lol
Hey can you give me a link for regular struts for a 2015 civic si or a part number
What do you mean regular struts? These BC coilovers for a 2015 Si?
Omg u answer yes regular struts i buy two pairs already and they or wrong then I notice your video and you explain but I need a part number to help me get the regular ones
I have a 2015 si also
nice video man but why the hell didnt u show the car lowered and with tires on it? huge bummer i was looking forward to that!
Because I haven't set up the suspension yet! You'll see it on the ground in the next video 👍
hey whats up bro, can i bring my car to install my coilovers ? im comin from montreal quebec . thanks
Hey Anton, send me an email at milanmastracci@gmail.com
Those brembo calipers 🧐🧐🧐
Can't wait to throw them on!
@@milanmastracci 🔥🔥🔥
bro what's the mileage on your civic
75k ish!
Bro got a hoist now
A bit of an upgrade 😉
Noice 👍🏻
Thanks buddy!! 👊
It is very difficult to find an SI with low mileage and in good condition.
I know! They're all miled out, or way too expensive. Covid defs didn't help. Given that these are the last N/A Civic Si's, these will hold their value if not appreciate. Get one ASAP 👍
I have a 2013 si under 100,000 miles. It was a great find.
Hope you’ve found yours by now, took me 2-3 months waiting and scanning the internet everyday, 2014 si with 85k 😁
You need some quick jacks
I considered them, but did one better! Watch the entire video and you'll see 😉
You’ve just thrown off your suspension a lot worse than if you didn’t install that roll centre correction kit. I 100% Garuntee you have some degree of bump steer now, especially with your vehicle being a macpherson strut design.
You now need adjustable (height) outer tie rods to correct for the incorrect suspension geometry.
Rubbing on your fenders is a bad thing 😅
Hehehe good think I can prevent that from happening now lol
when 370z
Soon I hope!
Love the videos!! You are late to the party > promo sm !
Thanks Amy! Not quite sure what promo sm means..?