How to Properly Set Up Coil-overs

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  • čas přidán 28. 05. 2024
  • We don't often get technical with our videos, but I've spent so much time setting up my suspension for the last few years that I felt like you all might appreciate an in depth look at setting up suspension.
    These are the coilovers that I got for my civic:
    fortune-auto.com/coilovers/dr...
    If you're looking to learn more about some of these topics, check out these resources:
    Setting bumpstops -
    honeddevelopments.com/bumpsto...
    Roll Center correction -
    honeddevelopments.com/suspens...
    Bumpsteer -
    honeddevelopments.com/honda-c...
    Motion Ratios -
    deltavee.net/2013/10/wheel-ra...
    Setting up control arms -
    professionalawesome.com/the-d...
    Corner Balancing -
    • What Is Corner Balanci...
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    “Clone Credits” - Neon Beach - EKJEX3EMENVTL0KO
    “Take a Breath” - JeesGuy - 3P0BFQIAIOFXXJA6
    “Finessed” - JeesGuy - DBFXYNFCSDD93GCU
    “B Side” - Nu Alkemi$t - KFFS8VAGFOBF97QP
    “Sky Trails” - Nom Fabriqué - 3DAJ0YSAY6KWMOTQ
    00:00 - Intro
    01:07 - Coilover Options
    03:12 - Compression and Rebound
    05:00 - Installing the Coilovers
    05:49 - Setting Ride height
    07:20 - Setting Bumpstops
    10:36 - Compression/Droop Ratio
    12:06 - Corner Balance
    12:50 - Alignment
    12:58 - Conclusion
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Komentáře • 170

  • @devinherndon56
    @devinherndon56 Před rokem +326

    Momma I made it 🙌🏾 in all seriousness, I’m happy you’re on our suspension finally and the results speak for themselves!

  • @juddy953
    @juddy953 Před rokem +26

    Finally a channel that shows the correct way to set up coilovers 👏

  • @stimofo808
    @stimofo808 Před rokem +52

    Good work on explaining the complexities of proper suspension setup. I’d say 80% of slammed car owners don’t understand this and another 10% of owners don’t do this.

    • @justinguarino201
      @justinguarino201 Před 10 měsíci

      If anyone understands it, it is going to be the slammed vehicles lol. Considering they have to account for chassis swap to not buckle or crush a body panel.

  • @emilionaranjo5894
    @emilionaranjo5894 Před rokem +12

    Thanks for being that car channel that best describes my interests within the car community. You guys are phenomenal. It’s been a trip, I’ve been watching since the escort and the progress speaks for itself…

  • @MattGreenland
    @MattGreenland Před rokem +30

    Good job going through this all! Definitely one of the clearest videos for teaching how to setup 2 piece coilovers with goodninfor to take to one piece coilovers. Will be sharing as a demonstration of how to setup suspension.

  • @jasond126
    @jasond126 Před rokem +9

    Keep these type of track technical video coming 👍 ❤️

  • @therealboofighter
    @therealboofighter Před rokem +23

    This channel has come a long way from working on your turbo escort. Great to see the progress.

  • @arvin_arn
    @arvin_arn Před rokem +1

    One of the very few youtube channels that goes over the correct way to setup coilovers! Great video as always!

  • @pieterv6984
    @pieterv6984 Před rokem +5

    Thank you for this. Interesting. Hope this gets a follow-up on the track with some explanation about what you notice and how you adjust.

  • @JJBanuelos
    @JJBanuelos Před rokem +3

    This couldn’t have came at at better time! I just literally installed 2 way adjustable Coilovers on my c5 vette & I was wondering how to properly setup them up. Awesome job explaining everything.

  • @dee1089
    @dee1089 Před rokem +1

    really wish you guys would do a in -depth series on this technical stuff that no one on yt talks about. you know,, in your usual way and not in front of a chalk board. it would be very educational; for those whom dont have the connections for this type of reliable info locally.

  • @chuck6652
    @chuck6652 Před rokem +1

    I absolutely love it when you guys do the work on your vehicles yourself! Loved the video!

  • @KutsugeMindUrmoks
    @KutsugeMindUrmoks Před rokem +3

    I love this civic. Excited to see where it goes once you decide to go higher class again!

  • @kid.failure
    @kid.failure Před rokem

    Great resources. Huge fan of what you guys do. Much love!

  • @RSKev
    @RSKev Před rokem +1

    Fortune auto is great, and Devin is a huge help for dialing in my setup!

  • @jdmkidk24
    @jdmkidk24 Před rokem

    Think I need to watch this again because it’s so good and redo my simple 1 way coilovers. Amazing video

  • @IdEk5627
    @IdEk5627 Před rokem

    Finally someone made this video. So many people dont know and dont really show how to set it up out of the box.

  • @ShakotanZero
    @ShakotanZero Před rokem

    Can’t wait to see the changes with the new suspension

  • @along_for_the_ride_uk

    great explanation on everything! broke it down nicely! really enjoyed this one

  • @psewgobind
    @psewgobind Před rokem

    Nice seeing the science behind suspension travel. If done right, double wishbone’s ability to toe out is going to create some magic.

  • @Just_Wanna_Drive
    @Just_Wanna_Drive Před rokem

    Without a doubt, this is the best coilover setup video in the history of CZcams. I'll see you in Club TR next year! 🍺

  • @DREWlanning
    @DREWlanning Před rokem

    Great episode! Been waiting for this one for a while.

  • @natinaga82
    @natinaga82 Před rokem

    Excited when mine arrives

  • @kumakaroshi117
    @kumakaroshi117 Před rokem

    Love the information, thank you for the time and effort

  • @J.Galvao76
    @J.Galvao76 Před rokem

    Awesome video...... for sure i have to see it more times as i custom fit some coils to my car
    Thanks Ben

  • @cc2321
    @cc2321 Před rokem

    Finally a proper guide for coilover install!

  • @helpmerunaway2651
    @helpmerunaway2651 Před rokem

    Thanks for the content guys,,,love from kenya 🇰🇪

  • @NotNow293
    @NotNow293 Před rokem +3

    Finally! Suspension made by an actual suspension company.

  • @backnunAndy
    @backnunAndy Před rokem

    Your project civic car is getting faster as well as becoming prettier than ever before!

  • @fabianmendoza61
    @fabianmendoza61 Před rokem

    These videos make my saturday mornings

  • @weresonic11
    @weresonic11 Před rokem

    A nice glaze over it but still informative to those who don't know. Can't wait to see the ZX2 get a set

  • @IBmotive
    @IBmotive Před rokem +1

    Proper video. Few points to add; Tbf it doesn’t make whole lot of sense to first set the spring perch heights(rideheight) b4 setting the full compr setting since you’re gonna adjust it anyway, this way, you can save some time by installing coilover directly, without a spring.
    And every tire is different from another, for example 195/50/15 ar-1 vs 195/50/15 R888, there is a 7/8mm height difference in the tire. (Even some width) This means that the tire will hit the chassis in full compression..
    And the bumpstop will compress more than what you’re able to do with the cars weight & lifting the wishbone & coilover to check bumpstop travel. For example at foxhole in nurburgring, there can easily be 2G’s. It’s a good measure to factor in a 5mm extra space between tire & chassis if you really dont want to rub in ANY situation.

  • @tortuga34
    @tortuga34 Před rokem +3

    Great explanation, thanks Ben. Makes me wonder how much better can suspension tech get? Interesting stuff for sure.

    • @opiatool
      @opiatool Před rokem +3

      Maybe not much better with current materials and design mindset but new technologies and materials science could radically change how cars and suspension works.

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 Před rokem

      A LOT better with race dampers, and then even more with mode decoupling

    • @lancercool1992
      @lancercool1992 Před 7 měsíci

      new cars coming out like iphones no one's got time to do proper r&d

  • @Lastsight100
    @Lastsight100 Před rokem +1

    MY FA500s show up this wed! I'm really excited.

  • @MrMirofl
    @MrMirofl Před rokem

    Hey thanks for all the valuable information!

  • @JFlogerzi
    @JFlogerzi Před rokem

    This will be helpful when I go to get my new dedicated track setup

  • @initialdluvr
    @initialdluvr Před rokem

    I can never focus on your topic when you're working on the Civic because I'm too busy admiring that Civic. That generation Civic hatchback has such a timeless design in my opinion.

  • @fixinbrokevws9959
    @fixinbrokevws9959 Před rokem

    Great info and great video 👍

  • @seewithsam
    @seewithsam Před rokem

    Guess who just joined a Motorsport Engineering course. This is great help.

  • @ll.7927
    @ll.7927 Před rokem

    Bro love your car. Bought a shirt the other day. Trying to set my car up for road racing.

  • @the_jarmel
    @the_jarmel Před rokem

    👏👏👏👏👏 HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WEEKEND EVERYONE

  • @faithisinyou7988
    @faithisinyou7988 Před 20 dny

    I learned something today sweet!

  • @florian_montuzet
    @florian_montuzet Před rokem

    It was very very very interesting !

  • @artblackwood7936
    @artblackwood7936 Před 11 měsíci

    Great information.

  • @juice992
    @juice992 Před rokem

    Great info!

  • @anotheryoutuber2463
    @anotheryoutuber2463 Před rokem

    droop is joy!

  • @hmmhuh12
    @hmmhuh12 Před rokem +1

    God damn. My man is running the dreadnought. Tell me your suspension is more expensive then your car without telling me.

  • @Planexpert90
    @Planexpert90 Před rokem

    What's sitting in your lap while you're in the driver's seat, showing the corner balance on the scale display? Ballast of some sort? I initially thought it might be your helmet/race suit, but it looks like it's attached to the steering wheel, so I'm not sure what I'm looking at! Great video, as always. Love that you're giving us this level of technical detail, it's great to see how much thought goes into making a fast car that tenth faster.

  • @TM-fx5le
    @TM-fx5le Před 2 měsíci +1

    At 9:30 , are you also changing the preload of the spring?

  • @Elmanret
    @Elmanret Před rokem

    I think the most important part is the camber and toe adjustment, I saw you doing it but not explained, off corse that can be dial in the track with a infrared thermometer.

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Před rokem

    Now you know. And knowing is half the battle!

  • @toycoma98
    @toycoma98 Před rokem

    So, where do you set the compression and rebound knobs on the shocks at? Set it in the middle as a starting point?

  • @emicmoto
    @emicmoto Před rokem

    nice that you show the alignment for 8 seconds

  • @MRMAN-wb1tv
    @MRMAN-wb1tv Před rokem

    *Virginia in the house!*

  • @squadcars5896
    @squadcars5896 Před rokem

    this video was good

  • @N911GT2
    @N911GT2 Před rokem +1

    Here we go again. Little Ben doing a commercial and wrapping it as ‘content’.

  • @CarlosFlores-dy4sk
    @CarlosFlores-dy4sk Před rokem

    Hi what kind of spring rates are you running with the roll center correction?

  • @walterharris6191
    @walterharris6191 Před rokem

    Are you guys coming to gridlife in Colorado?

  • @CorbinSikes
    @CorbinSikes Před rokem

    Hey, so out of curiosity how/what did you use to mount the canister? Just got my coils and was wondering if you had any tips :)

  • @NotUrDJ
    @NotUrDJ Před rokem +2

    Now that's some great sponsored content

  • @ImpalaSS08
    @ImpalaSS08 Před 10 dny

    When they’re free of course you’ll choose the Dreadnaughts. 😂😂😂

  • @kelbaez
    @kelbaez Před 8 měsíci

    hey Ben, are you running Helper springs or Tender/Assist Springs?

  • @aprl
    @aprl Před rokem

    do these suspension setup tips apply to all cars in general or are specific cars different?

  • @werewolfpixies123
    @werewolfpixies123 Před rokem

    How would you adjust bump stop height on independent suspension?

  • @jamesk3565
    @jamesk3565 Před rokem

    Damn so I already missed you in Jersey

  • @jasond126
    @jasond126 Před 9 měsíci

    Nee clarification. When setting the ride height for 50% compression and 50% droop do you adjust the spring perch or the shock perch?

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Před rokem

    At 5:00......really like the LoFi background music.

  • @harrisonmorin616
    @harrisonmorin616 Před rokem +1

    Yay my morning poop held out 😂 best shit to wake up to.

  • @Newbenwindowcleaningcom

    I have bc racing with 32 damper setting , should I put super hard or on 16 17 click for track day ?

  • @jackweta
    @jackweta Před rokem

    good to see you gave up on those ktuned coilovers. check corner balance when turning into a corner dependant on caster

  • @KingENDLESS
    @KingENDLESS Před rokem

    Following this series to help build my teams Passat endurance race car. Please help

  • @iansharpe8420
    @iansharpe8420 Před rokem +4

    million dollar question, don you regret going full race car? was it more fun while it was simple? curious moreso than anything. great video as always

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 Před rokem +3

      I mean considering he just tracks the car and never uses it on the road I expect him to not regret it at all. Especially considering its a FWD car. FWD cars really do completely transform when given full racecar spec. Also keep in mind that going full racecar allows him to get creative considering the class he is in, and obviously this is great for the YT channel. I don't know what his personal views are but I think he's done the right thing going full track tool on this one. And obviously the Honda platform is more than ideal for that

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 Před rokem

      don't mind my English.. not native

    • @iansharpe8420
      @iansharpe8420 Před rokem

      @@miguelaguilera6601 I get that, and your english is good! I just wonder, is the fun of hopping into a car and ripping up the canyons missed. I'm sure track days are massive fun, but a massive headache too. The finacial aspect must be daunting as well

    • @miguelaguilera6601
      @miguelaguilera6601 Před rokem

      @@iansharpe8420 I sure miss the canyon days. Honestly I want them to finish the Mr2 Toyota engine swap build and the K swap S2000 build and do some canyon runs... I think once they are done with both of those cars which I would say it'll take them 10 months.. they should do a nice road trip. Something like east to west or north to south or diagonally crossing the country

  • @MrUnicornsinmycereal
    @MrUnicornsinmycereal Před rokem

    Serious question here!
    Ik there are tons of factors when it comes to spring rates but looking for a good rule of thumb for a fwd track car. Do you want neutral spring rates or a stiff bias to front/rear? For context my car is front heavy 60-40,lowered, big rear sway bar, cambered -2,-1.5 with .01 toe out front and rear. Any help is appreciated as theres so much personal biased info but i want facts.

  • @buttdyno
    @buttdyno Před rokem

    2:00 travel before bind is also a pretty relevant detail when selecting coilover springs (though not much difference between the Hypercos and Swifts here). Also, do the springs actually test out at their stated rate?

    • @TJPDmember
      @TJPDmember Před rokem

      Swift springs are load tested :) i dunno about the other.

    • @bilaltariq7819
      @bilaltariq7819 Před rokem

      Stick em in a shock dyno

  • @fengrr
    @fengrr Před rokem

    so when would you swap spring rates?

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Před rokem +1

    Uhhh....Professor Ben, starting at 4:21....willl this material be on the next test?!?

  • @atthelimit88
    @atthelimit88 Před rokem

    Do you feel the K-swap FRS\BRZ will end up taking over this class? Seems all that chassis needed was a better engine.

  • @ChristianLikesFootball

    Why do you want to lower the shock body and utilise the bumpstop (have the bumpstop compressed) inlieu spring compression? Most coilovers are height adjustable at the lower collar and using the strut lower cup. I just wanted to know why the need to utilise the bumpstop and not the springs to prevent bottoming out?

  • @calebzorn1613
    @calebzorn1613 Před rokem

    When is the k swap glow up coming for the escort?

  • @Darkon90210
    @Darkon90210 Před rokem

    Hilarious question, but what lug nuts are you running?

  • @FreakySquid515
    @FreakySquid515 Před rokem

    Take a shot every time he says “a little bit” lol

  • @sir3nz478
    @sir3nz478 Před 6 měsíci

    What are your spring rates for rear?

  • @Chris_Nation4_Rally
    @Chris_Nation4_Rally Před rokem

    Watching Gears and Gasoline is like watching weekly Saturday morning cartoons

  • @spencersgarage
    @spencersgarage Před rokem +1

    I want the most comfortable ride coilovers I can get for my daily driven ‘91 Civic hatch. As for ride height, I’m not looking to be slammed, again this is a daily driver so a little lower than stock is preferred. Currently my Civic has Tein progressive lowering springs with Bilstein struts. All other suspension components are Hardrace with hardened rubber bushings. So which coilovers and brands do you guys suggest for the most in comfort?

    • @growingup4487
      @growingup4487 Před rokem +1

      tein z and soften the springs and dampers and you're good

    • @neonovember7023
      @neonovember7023 Před rokem +1

      Entry level kW suspension show do

    • @spencersgarage
      @spencersgarage Před rokem

      @@neonovember7023 are KW comfortable though?

  • @sooyster4033
    @sooyster4033 Před rokem +1

    6:53 Hi tall Ben...working on next week's video are we?

  • @JawnCoaltrain
    @JawnCoaltrain Před rokem +2

    Is this just one giant ad for Fortune Auto?

  • @kingwei1838
    @kingwei1838 Před rokem

    Let's Time Attack CiviC!!!!!!!!

  • @justinguarino201
    @justinguarino201 Před 10 měsíci

    How do you know by “feeling” I don’t get that lol. Like if I’ve never felt it before how do I know if it is correct or not

  • @jessehill3780
    @jessehill3780 Před 5 měsíci

    It’s funny because isn’t fortune one of the coilover companies that say to adjust ride height with the lower collar and cup and not with preload? I do agree making sure your tire and arms don’t hit sure makes a lot of sense but I think fortune is one of the companies who say don’t adjust preload for ride height.

  • @christuem2086
    @christuem2086 Před rokem +1

    explain the dialing in process :) That's gonna be interesting

  • @hyper8545
    @hyper8545 Před rokem +1

    I like fortune auto coils but I also like bc

  • @gushchinica
    @gushchinica Před rokem

    Бены! Вы крутые!

  • @raiuwu
    @raiuwu Před rokem

    I can't get over how handsome the fortune auto representative is at the beginning of the video. Like I'm not even gay, bro just has really great teeth.

  • @JWONG-pu8ky
    @JWONG-pu8ky Před rokem

    Number 1 item you need for this job, hydraulic lifts HAHAHA cant imagine the pain doing this without powertools and lifts

    • @MRMAN-wb1tv
      @MRMAN-wb1tv Před rokem

      Actually not hard at with a floor and some jack stands.

    • @MRMAN-wb1tv
      @MRMAN-wb1tv Před rokem +3

      You know what I take that back you right. Lol. This man taking it all off again and putting them back together

  • @turbo_brian
    @turbo_brian Před rokem +1

    You skipped checking the corner balance after attaching the swaybars. That's what adjustable swaybar endlinks are for. A lot of aftermarket bars aren't perfectly symmetrical and will "wedge" the car a little with equal length swaybar endlinks. Obviously this is a manufacturing tolerance thing so it's possible the bars are perfect, just not likely.

  • @Eggsplanepls
    @Eggsplanepls Před rokem

    lowkey had to see if Cameron Hills brz was totalled or not before i clicked on this one 😳

  • @savothkeo1354
    @savothkeo1354 Před rokem

    Yeeeee

  • @ruru2500
    @ruru2500 Před rokem

    Where's the "This video was sponsored by Fortune Auto" banner at the start?

  • @Goodman-4525
    @Goodman-4525 Před rokem

    Is MIA still road legal btw

  • @michaelsanders5938
    @michaelsanders5938 Před rokem

    I am surprised there weren't any "Let's Check Your Knowledge" mini quizzes throughout the video........