This is one of the reasons why in BR days, they very rarely shut the engines down with the exception for maintenance/repairs. They're very stubborn to start up again in the cold! Looks spectacular, mind you!
Good show! I LOVE the sound of those E.E. V12's chugging along. Nothing like it anywhere. And look at the clag!! I can smell it even now. ...and we got TWO of them, twice the fun! Thanks for this one! Rick
@theberengersniper Alot of it is automated. The driver has to turn the electrics on, then start the priming which is the whine you hear before the engine starts, then press the start button and keep it down until the engine fires properly. So he is involved, just not hand cranking it or anything.
The white smoke is because of overfueling on cold start. The flash is just unburnt fuel igniting in turbine of the turbo. Once they warm up the clag will go. If they have been standing a while there could be a bit of engine oil from turbo bearings in the exhaust but it soon burns off.
i saw one of these in the ews livery exactly like this one passing my old primary school ages ago it was hauling the ews hha hoppers!!! proper beast!!!
@trainfanatic1100 They were indeed the Class 37 English Electric locomotives inherited by WC when they bought the freight operators of GB. Sadly, WC (English Welsh & Scottish Railways) are no morein the UK having been sold to DB of Germany. There are still some Class 37`s still in use but mainly they have been displaced by General Motors Class 66`s and General Electric Class 70`s.
@1position69 The steam heat boilers were removed over 20 years ago when the locomotives were converted to class 37/4 and 37/6. The white/pale grey substance you see coming out of these locomotives is absolutely not steam.
these big V12 have a lovley sound to them very off beat but i love it also fan of gardner engines- another great british product and also radials- any engine apart from the ying yangs of GM. check out alcos for clagg too and GE's
Freightliner run the 70s -- DB Schenker (most of their locos are still in maroon/yellow EWS / WC livery) run 66s, a couple of 67s, 60s, 37s.... Direct Rail Services run 20s, 37s, 47s, 57s and 66s.
Its hot exhaust gas blowing past the exhaust valve seats, (poor seal) this then ignites unburnt atomised diesel fuel vapour in the exhaust stacks and turbo's. 37's were notorious for it.
how would u like them to start up from cold in november they were built in the 60s 1 of the best clips on here by the way and the drivers seemed to be happy aswell
Nice shooting ! Why is the startup sequence like that with firing and rev. up the engine for a pause, and then all over again ? Like an old start cold start :-)
@MatthewDavidParr No they're not. You don't run a water vapour engine, you run a steam engine. It's an invisible elasticated gas, the whole design of the superheater in later steam loco designs was to elasticate it more so you got more energy from less steam making them more efficient.
i figure it was from unburned fuel vapor, but i didnt realize it would be form poor valve seating, i kinda thought it was from a decompression stage for starting, either way its neat to see the fire form the beast lol..
@Meuw858 I belive you are confusing 37668 with 37688 (a common mistake), 668 has long been out of service and is now used as a parts donor for the WCRC 37 fleet, However, 37688 is in everyday service with DRS and is named Kingmoor TMD.
@farmerkristian Youve obviously not watched and heard "The black fog of blossburg 2009" then. 20'000 HP on the front, another 20'000 HP in the middle and 4000 HP on the back. Thats what you call impressive!
in my view these old english electric locomotives have far more character than anything american!and theres no wonder the american stuff makes sound like lawn mowers because their often twice the fucking size!!,the 37 for its size is a nice loco that makes a nice sound!
No harm to the ozone layer and a very low carbon footprint, actually... may not look it but even a pair of tractors is majorly environmentally sound globally!!! EE12CSVT thrash with a clean(ish) conscience... ;-)
@formidable38 Some EMD's have quite a good rasp especially the export G12 with a GM 12-567 engine in... Search for G12 7707 Sweden, I can't stop listening to it!
Water vapour and carbon dioxide are invisible. Diesel engines work by compressing the air in the cylinder, which heats it enough to burn the injected fuel. However, when a large engine block like this is cold, that big lump of cold metal prevents the air heating enough so the fuel doesn't burn. This unburnt fuel is ejected through the exhaust, as in the video.. If you believe otherwise, please explain why your gas oven doesn't emit billowing clouds of steam when it burns methane (CH4) in air.
I'm probably going to take a lot of flack for this, but I fail to see the appeal of these old Deltic Locomotives. They run rich, they pulsate, and they throw plumes of smoke. If the US had locomotives like the Deltics, the USEPA would be imposing multi-million fines upon the Owners of the Class-1 Railroads.
Maybe because they are a reminder of a different era. Old radial energies have a similar following. They sound like Harley-Davidson motorcycles and spit out clouds of smoke when they start up.
how come most trains on fireup do the fire thing out the exhaust, i never thought id see that unless it was gasoline, but never really figured it would with diesel, anyone know the answer?
@kratos32godofwar I aint so sure about that now. I took off my UK loco only "blinkers" along time ago. Theres some loco's in the states that make these sound like fucking lawn mowers in comparison- big time! There ARE EMD's that sound soooooo much better than these old clunckers!
these old dogs never die, they have so much more character than the modern trains.
This is one of the reasons why in BR days, they very rarely shut the engines down with the exception for maintenance/repairs. They're very stubborn to start up again in the cold! Looks spectacular, mind you!
Good show! I LOVE the sound of those E.E. V12's chugging along. Nothing like it anywhere. And look at the clag!! I can smell it even now.
...and we got TWO of them, twice the fun!
Thanks for this one!
Rick
this has got to be one of the best start-ups of any train in the WORLD!!!!
nice SPLIT BOX at the end.
cheers
Oh the clag, and the noise to go with the clag, double delight, what a vid, absolute music to my ears, and a joy for the eye's
Could listen to that all day!👍👍
Is it just me or does this video just seem to get better every time you watch it.
Most beautiful startup ever
Tractortastic!!!!!!.
awesome!!!! the days of the old BR diesel locos has gone... now we use imported stuff with no character or history
great stuff two for the price of one.... cheers ;-)
@theberengersniper Alot of it is automated. The driver has to turn the electrics on, then start the priming which is the whine you hear before the engine starts, then press the start button and keep it down until the engine fires properly. So he is involved, just not hand cranking it or anything.
best 37 claging iv ever seen.
Thats a top class clag!
gotta love the 37's
To right this Is on of the best stratt ups on one of my fave class 37 good video
The white smoke is because of overfueling on cold start. The flash is just unburnt fuel igniting in turbine of the turbo. Once they warm up the clag will go. If they have been standing a while there could be a bit of engine oil from turbo bearings in the exhaust but it soon burns off.
Boy that rear 37 took a long time to start!
Thats very nice 37 music
i saw one of these in the ews livery exactly like this one passing my old primary school ages ago it was hauling the ews hha hoppers!!! proper beast!!!
my lordz some call the fire brigade! awsome video mate
@trainfanatic1100
They were indeed the Class 37 English Electric locomotives inherited by WC when they bought the freight operators of GB. Sadly, WC (English Welsh & Scottish Railways) are no morein the UK having been sold to DB of Germany. There are still some Class 37`s still in use but mainly they have been displaced by General Motors Class 66`s and General Electric Class 70`s.
@1position69 The steam heat boilers were removed over 20 years ago when the locomotives were converted to class 37/4 and 37/6. The white/pale grey substance you see coming out of these locomotives is absolutely not steam.
beautiful noise
these big V12 have a lovley sound to them very off beat but i love it also fan of gardner engines- another great british product and also radials- any engine apart from the ying yangs of GM. check out alcos for clagg too and GE's
Freightliner run the 70s -- DB Schenker (most of their locos are still in maroon/yellow EWS / WC livery) run 66s, a couple of 67s, 60s, 37s.... Direct Rail Services run 20s, 37s, 47s, 57s and 66s.
At 0:34, the environment is just like "Oh shit, please, not another one" :D
37426 Is One Of 52 Loco's That DB Schenker Has Put Up For Sale. Its Outside A Shed At Crewe Just Of Gresty Road
NICE in goes the good air out goes the bad air. Very good tho and the sound is great
no, these big diesels are like that when cold starting, lots of clag and noise. The reving and chuffing is as the cylinders take up and start to fire.
Tractors. Clag. Flames! Yes!
@infernodood3 It typically means in the days from when the locos were first built (in this case) up until privatisation in 1996.
wow man thanks for the detailed explanation +1
Awesome vid. EE at its best..
absaloutely brilliand vidio espeitioly when the clag exploded!
Carry on Clagging!! TOP vid
Its hot exhaust gas blowing past the exhaust valve seats, (poor seal) this then ignites unburnt atomised diesel fuel vapour in the exhaust stacks and turbo's. 37's were notorious for it.
how would u like them to start up from cold in november they were built in the 60s 1 of the best clips on here by the way and the drivers seemed to be happy aswell
Nice shooting ! Why is the startup sequence like that with firing and rev. up the engine for a pause, and then all over again ? Like an old start cold start :-)
fredriktaaje Think of it as a Detroit Diesel "Idle Finding". These old farts do the same thing but in their own way.
@MatthewDavidParr No they're not. You don't run a water vapour engine, you run a steam engine. It's an invisible elasticated gas, the whole design of the superheater in later steam loco designs was to elasticate it more so you got more energy from less steam making them more efficient.
i figure it was from unburned fuel vapor, but i didnt realize it would be form poor valve seating, i kinda thought it was from a decompression stage for starting, either way its neat to see the fire form the beast lol..
@Meuw858 I belive you are confusing 37668 with 37688 (a common mistake), 668 has long been out of service and is now used as a parts donor for the WCRC 37 fleet, However, 37688 is in everyday service with DRS and is named Kingmoor TMD.
Wonderful!
@farmerkristian Youve obviously not watched and heard "The black fog of blossburg 2009" then. 20'000 HP on the front, another 20'000 HP in the middle and 4000 HP on the back. Thats what you call impressive!
@wilzchau The amount of smoke and exhaust they produce. Lots of it is "Good clag".
the flames are normal inn these engines at cold start ,,,the clag is very very flammable,,one spark,,,,flame!!
in my view these old english electric locomotives have far more character than anything american!and theres no wonder the american stuff makes sound like lawn mowers because their often twice the fucking size!!,the 37 for its size is a nice loco that makes a nice sound!
top class
love it.
No harm to the ozone layer and a very low carbon footprint, actually... may not look it but even a pair of tractors is majorly environmentally sound globally!!! EE12CSVT thrash with a clean(ish) conscience... ;-)
Long live EE class 37's!
The white smoke is unburnt fuel; carbon dioxide is only emitted if hte fuel is burnt.
Lickey incline monsters!
@formidable38 Some EMD's have quite a good rasp especially the export G12 with a GM 12-567 engine in... Search for G12 7707 Sweden, I can't stop listening to it!
Not one for the bosses of DB Schenker to see prior to a review of the EE type 3.
@Meuw858 Exactly. Check out "Southern pacific at Burbank jct" The epitome of sound and power.
Love it! 5*
and to think the Clean Air Act killed steam!!!
Water vapour and carbon dioxide are invisible. Diesel engines work by compressing the air in the cylinder, which heats it enough to burn the injected fuel. However, when a large engine block like this is cold, that big lump of cold metal prevents the air heating enough so the fuel doesn't burn. This unburnt fuel is ejected through the exhaust, as in the video.. If you believe otherwise, please explain why your gas oven doesn't emit billowing clouds of steam when it burns methane (CH4) in air.
@MatthewDavidParr Water vapour. Steam itself is invisible.
Hellfire my beast
Is this whole process automated, or is the driver having to do a lot of work to get them going?
@huettmr no the last was taken out ages ago
the poochoo train.
00:40 hellfire faved and liked
imagine the size of the starter motor
@tombaker1222 Sigh... What's that stuff that comes out of your Kettle when you make a cup of tea?
I'm probably going to take a lot of flack for this, but I fail to see the appeal of these old Deltic Locomotives. They run rich, they pulsate, and they throw plumes of smoke. If the US had locomotives like the Deltics, the USEPA would be imposing multi-million fines upon the Owners of the Class-1 Railroads.
Maybe because they are a reminder of a different era. Old radial energies have a similar following. They sound like Harley-Davidson motorcycles and spit out clouds of smoke when they start up.
These aren't deltics, these are 37s, 55s are deltics
And where, exactly, would that much steam come from?
0:41 fire from 37426
how come most trains on fireup do the fire thing out the exhaust, i never thought id see that unless it was gasoline, but never really figured it would with diesel, anyone know the answer?
Westbury?
nope just got mc livery because the owner was owned by wc if that makes sense
May I ask a question: What is a "clag"?
english electric best locos ever made in england gm shit
does the lead engine control the 2nd one?
@MatthewDavidParr Steam's actually invisible...
@kratos32godofwar I aint so sure about that now. I took off my UK loco only "blinkers" along time ago. Theres some loco's in the states that make these sound like fucking lawn mowers in comparison- big time! There ARE EMD's that sound soooooo much better than these old clunckers!
mtu or GM them, they might sound better then
I meant start ups
thats just pornography xD
nice video and favved
Mark Chandler of the best kind :p
Mark Chandler Railway porn.
@tombaker1222
Water Vapour = Steam dude, they are the same thing.
how do they link the controls?
beastage!! 5*
1 people Greenpeace
them engines sound fucked, are they scrapped
i mean wc