love class 37s and this is fantastic footage - amazing engine sound with the bonus of the steam train passing by in the smoke! also with a sense of humour mixed in - well done!
Hi. EE engines always hunt when cold. The oil is also cold and I understand this effects the ability of the governor to work effectively. Many also idle slightly off-balance, ours certianly does due to having a couple of Class 31 pistons fitted. These are theoretically identical, but even slight differences cause the power unit to idle unevenly. Doesn't do any harm though. Cheers, Tez
They're not actually the same car. If you look closely at the first one it has some kind of writing on the side, whereas the second one doesnt. Probably some kind of motor show on
Engine started by batteries that use the generator effectively as a starter motor . Engine is an English Electric 12CSVT - V12, turbo-charged and intercooled delivering 1,750hp. She's a beast!
Must say, love the black five going by! Wasn't expecting that treat. Wish we would see that here in the US! I would love to go back to my birth country of England! Mariah Rich
Thanks! The A1 is pretty impressive and I believe there's a 'next generation' Standard 5 on a drawing board or CAD tube somewhere. 240 is started in the vid - it pulses when the oil is cold in the governor.
@Vladimir42kem Many thanks for the comments from all the way over there in Siberia! I can imagine that running engines in those kind of temperatures must be rather challenging!
@autoboybv No, the loco is a diesel electric, so to start you actually apply battery current to the main generator which turns the power unit over to start it.
Live next to a coal line for a couple of years, and you soon become familiar with all the different sounds of these beasts - when they're cruising along, when they're really pulling a load, or when they're in trouble. I've heard some very sick 37s in my time, and this reminds me of some of them. What's the problem with the motorists, though? Don't they like the wonderful smell of clag? ;) Mmm... takes me back. :)
Hiya. Thanks for the comment. She's a diesel electric, glad the video stirred some good memories for you. Happily, there'll be 37's running on both preserved and main lines in the UK for many years to come! Best wishes, Tez
I used to work on a boat in Bideford that had a pair of old Gardner 6xlct engines, they done the same thing on very cold starts. One morning the fire brigade showed up on the quay after someone though we had a fire. But good as gold once they warmed up a little.
37s are definitely the best of the British diesels. Up until my employers constructively dismissed me, I was going to be driving one of the Gloucestershire & Warwickshire Railways's 37s this November. Sadly I won't get my hands on the throttle of one now. Wish I'd visited the Llangollen when this beast has been running! Frankly a 12CSVT giving it the beans beats my puny 1.3 litre Fiesta!
Yes, very true. Many seem to forget that the alternative energy has been acquired using traditional fuels somewhere along the line! I never knew that for bio-diesel!
Brilliant capture...just love that sound and the smoke!! My Fairey Huntress powerboat with a Ford Sabre 275 in, could outsmoke that!! not a popular chap on the Hamble in winter!
You are correct! Without sufficient air generated to operate the Governor or loco air brake, we were using the little YEC 0-4-0 shunter to move her away from the road.
Now that would have been something to see, but best not smell! I visited Victoria and NSW back in 1997 and I distinctly remember it being quite chilly!
Thanks, a beast isn't she? It's deffo oil - 2 chrome rings had been fitted on B3 piston before we got the loco and this was causing oil to pass by into the cylinder and burn. The Llangollen is a preserved line and mostly uses steam. Google "Llangollen Railway" to find out more.
According to J. Harrison Fuel, they're very hard coke (no, not the drink!) used in room heaters and cookers. They seem to resemble charcoal briquettes that are used to fuel barbecues.
No probs. Agreed, Deltics are ace! 37's are in daily freight use with DRS and EWS/DB, although the latter are down to around 2 working examples now. West Coast Railways use them for their passenger charter trains, usually top and tailing a steam loco. Network Rail have also just had four heavily overhauled for use on the Cambrian ERTMS project, which will see them based at Shrewsbury and working on the mainline for around another 10 years! Not bad for locos well over 40 years old eh?
@PumbaRuben yeah, seconded. You can look down the exhaust stacks on these and see the turbine wheel of the turbo's! In my opinion thats the only silencing these get is the 2 turbo's!
You're looking at around 10-20 minutes - the loco needs to generate sufficient air to release the brakes and control the engine governor before you can take power and move anyway.
I'm a train lover, but to be fair, that's a very good point you make. I know there is some debate/question if car/diesel/petrol etc emissions are as much to blame as some claim by some (including myself I hasten to add!), but cars ARE blamed for pollution no end. Why are trains not under the spotlight too? If a car smoked as much as this, it would be ordered off the road!
Hi there, 37's generally tend to idle off balance like this, but I believe it's worse when they are first started due to the engine Governor hunting as the oil is cold. Thanks for the comments. You've got some impressive locos over in Germany - and you still use them to pull proper trains with carriages. In Britain our railwyas are mostly run by units - or nasty plastic buses as we like to call them!
Reminds me of starting a very cold GE locomotive back in the day before switching the mill. A GE doesn't even come close to having the character of a Class 37.
love class 37s and this is fantastic footage - amazing engine sound with the bonus of the steam train passing by in the smoke! also with a sense of humour mixed in - well done!
One of my favorite vids ever, that engine sounds beautiful!!
“Very cold”
Sees flowers blooming in the background
LOL at the camerman choking! Nice work!
Just thought I would point out that the 'Disgruntled Motorist' was the then Chairman of the Llangollen Railway driving past, giving a friendly wave !
from a time when we made stuff , real stuff that lasted in the UK
How right you are, Tom. Over 50 years old, and still in use. Wonderful. British - and the best!
Hi. EE engines always hunt when cold. The oil is also cold and I understand this effects the ability of the governor to work effectively. Many also idle slightly off-balance, ours certianly does due to having a couple of Class 31 pistons fitted. These are theoretically identical, but even slight differences cause the power unit to idle unevenly. Doesn't do any harm though. Cheers, Tez
Great Video, I had to laugh when the camera man started to choke on the smoke. I guess there is a price to rail fanning at times.
Being in charge of a locomotive in run 8 even for a few minutes is high on my bucket list. I wish you weren't across the pond.
Gotta love the stream train cameo, making sure it can still compete with the CLAGMONSTER
How could anyone dislike this video?
Man, that Class 37 made more smoke than the Black 5 did!
im 17 man i love these sounds
0.34 - 0.42
"wake up, lazy bones! Why don't you work hard like me?" XD
At 1:45 did anyone else notice a glitch in the matrix? i'm sure that white MR2 passed by twice.
They're not actually the same car. If you look closely at the first one it has some kind of writing on the side, whereas the second one doesnt. Probably some kind of motor show on
oooohhhhhh the sweet idling sound just imagine what you can do with all that power! >:)
Oh what a great piece of kit, English Electric rule. Drove her last March.....will be back again this year!
Engine started by batteries that use the generator effectively as a starter motor . Engine is an English Electric 12CSVT - V12, turbo-charged and intercooled delivering 1,750hp. She's a beast!
Oh just listen to that mighty roar & they are something to behold!
long live EE diesel power, and long live the class 37s
Must say, love the black five going by! Wasn't expecting that treat. Wish we would see that here in the US! I would love to go back to my birth country of England! Mariah Rich
At 1:42 two identical white mk1 toyota MR2's drive by, what a rare and unusual sight!
Thee Adjudicator A glitch in the Matrix?
Buffy lol
Love the sound !
Like, so vivid & realistic, your audience in video-land is nearly gagging & puking from the smoke. Way to go, babe!
Love these sounds . The Steam Train sounds great too. I love the idle of this train
Amazing diesel locomotive and cool smoke. Thumbs up! :)
Perfect video and sound even better
love the sound of these machines cannot stop looking at it
Clagg overload - fantastic! I remember these from being a little girl. I miss them a lot.
Thanks! The A1 is pretty impressive and I believe there's a 'next generation' Standard 5 on a drawing board or CAD tube somewhere.
240 is started in the vid - it pulses when the oil is cold in the governor.
super dual team on the motorist!!!! lol 37 and black 5 what a tag team!!!!
does more mpg than a vw diesel , euro 5 compliant , no recalls on this engine, no electronic cheating going on here
Absolutely hellfire
And it even outclagged the kettle
Gorgeous, what a fabulous machine. Takes me back to the Lickey incline.
Awesome sound!!! Deltic power!!!
This isn't a Deltic though :P
You are right! I searched the wrong "class"! :)
Quality loco there as always :)
37240 sounds great👍
Thanks ! Really enjoyed watching that.....
That sounds amazing at the end.
@Vladimir42kem Many thanks for the comments from all the way over there in Siberia! I can imagine that running engines in those kind of temperatures must be rather challenging!
The engine size works out at 185.5 litres.
The 16 cylinder version comes out at 245.3 litres.
lovely sound!!!
Aye, she's a beast. We look forward to welcoming you back in the Chair Sir!
Fantastic !
Nah, it smells lovely. Especially when mixed with drinking real ale!
@autoboybv No, the loco is a diesel electric, so to start you actually apply battery current to the main generator which turns the power unit over to start it.
Best of luck with the Greenpeace sponsorship....
+TheSupercollier best way to piss them off start up a locomotive in front of them.
That sounds so cool
It's almost making more smoke than the black five!
you gota love the class 37 clag
Live next to a coal line for a couple of years, and you soon become familiar with all the different sounds of these beasts - when they're cruising along, when they're really pulling a load, or when they're in trouble. I've heard some very sick 37s in my time, and this reminds me of some of them.
What's the problem with the motorists, though? Don't they like the wonderful smell of clag? ;) Mmm... takes me back. :)
The smoke covering the road lol probably thinks electrics and hybrids are the future not aware this is a hybrid it's a diesel electric lol
Used to love watching these coming through Prestatyn.
Hiya. Thanks for the comment.
She's a diesel electric, glad the video stirred some good memories for you. Happily, there'll be 37's running on both preserved and main lines in the UK for many years to come! Best wishes, Tez
Great video! Thank you.
still cleaner than a vw golf tdi
Lol
Michael Jagger sounds like my old caviler first thing in the morning with that banging
Looking forward to another hot summer next year.
Polar bears? What ever!
February 2008. BR hasn't existed for over 10 years, but several privatised operators still have a few in traffic.
Now that's layin' down the clag.
240 was awesome as usual today on the Llangollen ! :)
I used to work on a boat in Bideford that had a pair of old Gardner 6xlct engines, they done the same thing on very cold starts. One morning the fire brigade showed up on the quay after someone though we had a fire. But good as gold once they warmed up a little.
i love this vid you can just hear the turbo whistling
dammit guys... we NEED this atmosphere. :-) :-)
Love the clag mate that must have been the week we had fog for three days !1
37s are definitely the best of the British diesels. Up until my employers constructively dismissed me, I was going to be driving one of the Gloucestershire & Warwickshire Railways's 37s this November. Sadly I won't get my hands on the throttle of one now. Wish I'd visited the Llangollen when this beast has been running! Frankly a 12CSVT giving it the beans beats my puny 1.3 litre Fiesta!
Yes, very true. Many seem to forget that the alternative energy has been acquired using traditional fuels somewhere along the line!
I never knew that for bio-diesel!
Fabulous
That black five must have been pretty proud of himself....
Lovely catch of both diesel & Steam :)
Simply awesome
Ta V Much like.
The power unit is an English Electric 12 cylinder. It's intercooled and turbo'd, knocking out 1,750HP.
Thanks for watching!
A class 37 with a cloaking device......Well now i've seen everything
Very good vidoe and nice Tarim
Brilliant capture...just love that sound and the smoke!! My Fairey Huntress powerboat with a Ford Sabre 275 in, could outsmoke that!! not a popular chap on the Hamble in winter!
As a dyed in the wool steam man, I would say that is clag to die for.
Hi there. Wow, amazing that someone in Brazil is watching our 37 smoking away. Thanks for the comments!
that the same feeling as getting up every single before a warm cup of coffee!!
You are correct! Without sufficient air generated to operate the Governor or loco air brake, we were using the little YEC 0-4-0 shunter to move her away from the road.
thank you!
Now that would have been something to see, but best not smell! I visited Victoria and NSW back in 1997 and I distinctly remember it being quite chilly!
Thanks, a beast isn't she?
It's deffo oil - 2 chrome rings had been fitted on B3 piston before we got the loco and this was causing oil to pass by into the cylinder and burn.
The Llangollen is a preserved line and mostly uses steam. Google "Llangollen Railway" to find out more.
This is so cool :D
According to J. Harrison Fuel, they're very hard coke (no, not the drink!) used in room heaters and cookers. They seem to resemble charcoal briquettes that are used to fuel barbecues.
Sounds like a 'royal endfield' ;o)
Thanks!
No probs. Agreed, Deltics are ace!
37's are in daily freight use with DRS and EWS/DB, although the latter are down to around 2 working examples now. West Coast Railways use them for their passenger charter trains, usually top and tailing a steam loco. Network Rail have also just had four heavily overhauled for use on the Cambrian ERTMS project, which will see them based at Shrewsbury and working on the mainline for around another 10 years! Not bad for locos well over 40 years old eh?
@PumbaRuben yeah, seconded. You can look down the exhaust stacks on these and see the turbine wheel of the turbo's! In my opinion thats the only silencing these get is the 2 turbo's!
Brilliant
Love it!!!
Also, two white Toyota MR2 AW11's go past in convoy :)
You're looking at around 10-20 minutes - the loco needs to generate sufficient air to release the brakes and control the engine governor before you can take power and move anyway.
Love it. The diesel out-clagged the steamer!
Bollocks to the environmentalists! I like clag!
Hellfire!!
"cameramen in distress", lol. How did the motorists indicate they were disgruntled?
Ok. Thanks. Nice description.
Why fireball explosion was cut?
Not very environmentally friendly but I love the sound of 37s❤
Bit of a toss up who made the most smoke, black 5 or type 37!
super cold start sound
I'm a train lover, but to be fair, that's a very good point you make.
I know there is some debate/question if car/diesel/petrol etc emissions are as much to blame as some claim by some (including myself I hasten to add!), but cars ARE blamed for pollution no end. Why are trains not under the spotlight too?
If a car smoked as much as this, it would be ordered off the road!
Cold oil in the governor I believe, although she does tend to tick over slightly off-beat when warm.
Hi there,
37's generally tend to idle off balance like this, but I believe it's worse when they are first started due to the engine Governor hunting as the oil is cold.
Thanks for the comments. You've got some impressive locos over in Germany - and you still use them to pull proper trains with carriages. In Britain our railwyas are mostly run by units - or nasty plastic buses as we like to call them!
Reminds me of starting a very cold GE locomotive back in the day before switching the mill. A GE doesn't even come close to having the character of a Class 37.