The Best Music Streamer Isn't a Music Streamer

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  • čas přidán 25. 07. 2024
  • You already have a music streamer that's probably better than any other music streamer for much much more money.
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Komentáře • 335

  • @cheapaudioman
    @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +28

    After living with this device for a while and due to the limited availability, I'm now recommending the Ifi Zen Blue instead of the Topping. amzn.to/32wEcmo

    • @frankdegan8972
      @frankdegan8972 Před 3 lety +4

      Answered my question! Thanks! You have fired up the audio bug in me again.
      Video suggestion if you haven’t already, Cambridge audio dac vs Soundavio dac?
      See you at the next cupa coffee…

    • @pierrecharles1
      @pierrecharles1 Před 2 lety +2

      Terrible nerdy queck quack . Not for ex analog cable FM listerers who are forced to go digital only. I look for understandable reviews dig tuners with internet and dig antenna for cable companies. But less expensive as Argon 3m .

    • @albertloan396
      @albertloan396 Před 2 lety +3

      Zen Blue, also unavailable.

    • @keenedgedesigns
      @keenedgedesigns Před rokem +1

      No longer available. Do you have another suggestion?

    • @gprider1525
      @gprider1525 Před 11 měsíci

      My zen blue v2 just stopped working on digital out

  • @silvershadow4965
    @silvershadow4965 Před 3 lety +17

    Randy, I appreciate your philosophy and enjoy your content. I have recently repurposed an iPhone 6 to be my streamer/source. For music on the phone I use VOX in order to play any HiRes files I have purchased as well as other music files. I have also installed Qobuz and stream from their library. The iPhone is wired to a Schiit Modi 3 DAC which is hooked to a Schiit Magni 3+. Glad to hear your comments on this approach of repurposing. And, it is a green solution! No old phone in the landfill and zero energy to make something new.

  • @ChoySekMunSimon
    @ChoySekMunSimon Před 3 lety +2

    Thank you! Been doing this cheap method of streaming music for the last three or four years as it's convenient and allows any of my portable Android devices to wirelessly stream my bookmarked Internet radio stations to my various music rigs around the house. Keeps my kids, my wife and myself happy which is most important in maintaining peace at home. Keep those suggestions and videos coming.

  • @marknelson4699
    @marknelson4699 Před 2 lety +3

    Wow one of the best straight forward no nonsense reviews I've seen in a look time and he right, there's no need to go out and spend hundreds on a streamer when you've got products like these that do exactly the same thing and sound as good. Thanks and I've subscribed🙂

  • @theblackcat3112
    @theblackcat3112 Před 3 lety +40

    I instantly subscribed when you said "This is not about looking down on someone because they spend less on something than someone else". You're so humble when you talk and you have a big heart, bless you!

  • @PL-oc7vn
    @PL-oc7vn Před 2 lety +1

    You’re amazing man… I was searching for this on yt for a very long time and came across streaming devices for hundreds and thousands of dollars,
    I thought well that’s it, let’s see in ten years maybe I’ll be able to set up loan to buy this 😂😭
    Nope… Watched this video and ordered this little ideal receiver right away! Already bought 4 products based on your content, best bargains ever done ✅

  • @calibre00
    @calibre00 Před 3 lety +5

    Really enjoying your very honest, non-elitist reviews keep up the good work for the everyday hifi enthusiast!

  • @sobersteve9411
    @sobersteve9411 Před 2 lety

    Great video! I just got into audio for movies and games in my room and your videos are gems to watch. I see you are a wristwatch connoisseur as well as you are spotting a Rolex Air-King. This is what CZcams should be.

  • @ericnortan9012
    @ericnortan9012 Před 3 lety +6

    i have the Innomaker bluetooth DAC to connect to my old TEAC receiver in the garage and it works great, pretty clean sound. I think I paid $70

  • @Soxcessful
    @Soxcessful Před 3 lety

    Thanks Man. I am entering this world for the first time and your thoughts on cost have given me hope. I just like music and want to enjoy it more. I appreciate the info!

  • @aeyb701
    @aeyb701 Před 3 lety

    Off to work now but afterward I’m going to check out more of your videos. Digital streaming is for me the biggest learning curve since I was ten, learning what a turntable jack was of the back of my brother’s Muntz 8-track (1973). Easy to get led to believe on other channels you need to spend a lot on stacks of multiple dacs, Bluetooth or wifi receivers, streamers, only to find out you’re still in mp3 land. Not that I can tell the diff between mp3 and 24/96.

  • @ginom407
    @ginom407 Před 3 lety +3

    I'm in! I use pandora thru a Schiit dac and old Rotel amp from my laptop. All hardwired. Never thought of upgrading the source! Great review!!!

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. You can optical out right into the magni if you like the sound of that DAC or try it straight into your amp. It’s internal DAC is actually very good. Try the amazon hd music for free. And see if you can tell a difference. I have a link to a free 3 month trial to amazon music hd. Check one of my recent videos and there’s a link for it.

    • @tonydeniro284
      @tonydeniro284 Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman have you found that your tab a 10.5 no longer supports the aptx hd codec? I'm not certain if maybe after updating mine to android 10 it disappeared, as I updated it prior to checking the bluetooth codecs available.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      @@tonydeniro284 yeah. That’s what happened to mine too. LDAC still works though

    • @tonydeniro284
      @tonydeniro284 Před 3 lety +1

      @@cheapaudioman yes, ldac is still there, as well as at least regular aptx...kind of strange....I guess samsung is known to do this with the codecs...a bit disappointing, but I did hook up the bc3 last night to my musical fidelity v90 dac via optical, playing through my hifi and it works wonderfully!! Not sure, but can I use ldac with amazon music hd, if I decide to try it?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      @@tonydeniro284 yes you certainly can. BT doesn't care about what it's sending as long as the device and the receiver both have the same codec and are configured for the same codec. The codec just packages data on the device side and unpacks it on the receiver side. I use LDAC with Amazon HD all the time, my friend

  • @dinsy512
    @dinsy512 Před 2 lety

    This is a year old but I’ve only just seen it! Very useful! I don’t have a streamer, but I’m probably going to get the Holo Audio Spring 3 KTE dac with pre, so I’m thinking I can hook up this cheap little LDAC thing to the Holo via their optical connectors, then stream HD digital from my phone to my hifi! It’s worth a try!

  • @Justin-fy7xk
    @Justin-fy7xk Před 2 lety +1

    Great video from you. I was wondering if you could do a video on speaker isolation. You can buy very cheap nobosound springs to fit under the speakers and i think they do as good a job as the much more expensive townshend spring ones. You gave great tips on how to save a packet.

  • @markshaz8691
    @markshaz8691 Před rokem

    Wow, an honest review without the garbage or hard sell. Thanks subbed!

  • @robotcowhand1276
    @robotcowhand1276 Před 3 lety +7

    It's worth noting that on some phones you need to force AptX/HD over LDAC by activating developer mode on the phone (Pixel 4XL for myself).

  • @stephenhopkins9120
    @stephenhopkins9120 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi there, I have Marantz na6006 with HEOS, sound good, interface not so and no Qobuz integration. Used Qobuz through Samsung tablet usb into Marantz HD dac1. Sound as good, interface better,also have usb audio pro, for 6 dollars, very good value.
    Now have Roon on pc, library on NAS, old Squeezebox touch as end point into DAC with coax connection. Does up to 24/96 hires and this is the best sound I've achieved. Roon interface and Qobuz integration very good. Roon was this year's upgrade and am very happy to have my old touch back again. Not sure though if Roon or the coaxial connection made the difference but there it is. Good interesting video, have subscribed thanks.👍

    • @producer_ben
      @producer_ben Před 2 lety

      I hated my NA6006. I've loved marantz for years, but they QC is terrible now and customer care is beyond lacking. Be sure to keep the analogue outs connected else you won't be able to stream DSD :)

  • @CrashCarson14
    @CrashCarson14 Před 3 lety +2

    Emotiva makes supposed a good Bluetooth receiver that also has a digital out to use whatever you haves DAC or upsampler

  • @MrEliazar88
    @MrEliazar88 Před 3 lety +1

    Love what you doing thank you for your honest opinion and congrats you have a new subscriber

  • @BestKiteboardingOfficial

    Nice, simple, straightforward, honest advice about high VFM audio electronics. Nice

  • @fredoswego
    @fredoswego Před 3 lety +2

    i took a raspberry pi and a hifiberry digital out hat (additional card) and an external ssd drive and made a standalone music server that can be controlled via touchscreen/phone/tablet/PC. If you have a usb drive on hand you can do the whole thing for under $100. The good part is that since it's a direct connection from the Pi to my stereo/dac I don't have to worry about the network once I pick what I want to play.

  • @darrelgustafson2507
    @darrelgustafson2507 Před 3 lety +19

    I'm in restaurant supply, I sell meat. Don't get me going on chefs & cooks.

  • @marcusfay5018
    @marcusfay5018 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi.
    Love you channel! Its refreshing!
    Can you tell me what bluetooth ldac reciever that costs $60 is?
    Thanks

  • @foznoth
    @foznoth Před 3 lety +2

    The USB on the Raspberry Pi 4 is a good upgrade over the v3. On the v3 the Ethernet used the USB, causing electrical noise. On the v4 it's been decoupled, so the USB is cleaner. A good PSU like the Ifi Ipower is a good upgrade too.

  • @timothylewis2450
    @timothylewis2450 Před 2 lety +2

    First off as a music fanatic of modest means I LOVE your channel and greatly appreciate your tips and advice. It has helped me immensely and allowed me to enjoy music even more.
    Will I benefit from this set up: Amazon HD from Galaxy tab directly into Aiyima T9 to JBL A130? Significantly better than BT? Would adding a SMSL Sanskrit into the chain be better?
    Thanks so much again.

  • @rayray3643
    @rayray3643 Před 3 lety

    This video saved me money!! Thanks alot.

  • @B1tterAndThenSome
    @B1tterAndThenSome Před 3 lety +6

    I just use my gaming PC which is hidden behind the TV in the living room. I know some people would say a PC like that would be too noisy, but to my ears it sounds fine. Got it connected to a Hegel HD11 dac.

    • @akeelshah7904
      @akeelshah7904 Před 2 lety

      by using a dac u do the processing out of the pc so thas fine

  • @aristophia
    @aristophia Před rokem

    You're honest and brave enough to tell the truth. Aptx hd or ldac receiver and dac/amp is all we need.

  • @Jacoboss08
    @Jacoboss08 Před 3 lety

    yo Randy big ups that was on point

  • @Powerpickle68
    @Powerpickle68 Před 3 lety

    I just started using an Andover Audio Songbird and enjoying it very much.

  • @DewPoint567
    @DewPoint567 Před 3 lety

    Great video. There are so many ways to skin the same cat in audio.
    I have a question, could you please confirm how you do volume control , in analog or digital domain, and is there a quality difference you can hear.
    Cheers

  • @ncironhorse8367
    @ncironhorse8367 Před 2 lety

    I have the node 2i and have really enjoyed it with Tidal through Rune.

  • @dolly_llamas_tea
    @dolly_llamas_tea Před 3 lety +10

    Thank you!!! I appreciate your honesty and sincerity. You are so right music is about enjoyment. I’m
    New to this whole audiophile world and it seems like I need to have to the best of the best to really enjoy music. Happy new year!!! 🎆🎊🎈

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks so much. Just have some fun and don’t worry too much about your equipment. After you’ve lived with something for a while maybe think about upgrading. Excellent video about the song receiver. For $200 you can be up and running and having a ball.

    • @rayray3643
      @rayray3643 Před 3 lety

      Same here. Good luck on ur journey.

  • @ofsoundmind13
    @ofsoundmind13 Před 3 lety

    I have the node 2i. Didn’t want to pay the price but liked that it integrates to alexa for Amazon music hd. I’m about a week in and haven’t decided if I will keep it. The major reason not being the sound quality or even sound related. That’s all good! The issue is exactly what you spoke about. I hate using another app to get to my streaming services. Granted, the bluOS app is actually very well made and works flawlessly, I don’t need another app to control my other streaming apps...
    I am considering using AirPlay to the node but haven’t tried it yet. Great video! 👌

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks. This is back when my videos were really bad. Now they're just bad. I think until the streamers are able to adopt a "spotify connect" type of connection for all of the streamer services it's always going to be clunky. A good example of great integration is Roon and I wish one of the streamer companies would buy roon and then use that platform for app integration.

    • @ofsoundmind13
      @ofsoundmind13 Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman i agree on the “connect” style integration. I just finished testing tidal connect through airplay to the node 2 and it’s decent. Not familiar enough to rule out amazon music yet but I’ll do more testing. I bought the node through amazon so that I had a safety net to return it if I decide to take a different route. It’s great but probably does more than I really need it to. I don’t have any local music storage and I don’t use roon. Yet...😁

  • @frankeezee
    @frankeezee Před 3 lety +1

    Hope your channel grows. Like it 👍🏻

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      Thanks. We've grown a ton since this video came out. Almost embarrassed by these

    • @frankeezee
      @frankeezee Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman Nah, you shouldn't be. You bring a subtle humor, Zach Galifianakis, style approach to your channel. 👍🏻

  • @shawnm1856
    @shawnm1856 Před 3 lety

    I ordered a BC3. Thanks for the knowledge and great content. I need to buy a gift for my brother. What do you like out of these 4; BluDento AudioEngine B1, Prozor 192k DAC with Bluetooth Receiver with Volume Control, S.M.S.L B1, Topping BC3? Thanks

  • @jalsarrelevantchaos8817
    @jalsarrelevantchaos8817 Před 3 lety +50

    I’ll have to argue the best music streamer is a turntable.
    In all seriousness I agree. I use a laptop or an ipad out to a dac for my streaming. I tried the raspberry pi and hated the apps.
    Music lovers use equipment to listen to music. Audiophiles use music to listen to their equipment.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +2

      Accurate

    • @holyamazinggalien
      @holyamazinggalien Před 3 lety +21

      “Music lovers use equipment to listen to music. Audiophiles use music to listen to their equipment.” Best quote surrounding this hobby I’ve ever heard.

    • @Cujobob
      @Cujobob Před 3 lety +2

      On a Pi, you can use a ton of different operating systems. I simply use Hifiberry OS which allows me to stream from any phone app that allows airplay. Nothing more to it. No Pi interface to deal with after setup.

    • @ericnortan9012
      @ericnortan9012 Před 3 lety +5

      You should put that on a T-shirt.

    • @jalsarrelevantchaos8817
      @jalsarrelevantchaos8817 Před 3 lety +4

      @@ericnortan9012 Could probably figure out a better slogan. “Listen to the Music not the Gear” or equipment.

  • @eetechtom
    @eetechtom Před 3 lety +4

    Love the Chef v Cook analogy.

  • @evilaudio
    @evilaudio Před rokem

    Thanks for all you do, you've really helped me in my quest for best sound for the buck (Akitika pre and amp, CSS speakers, etc.)...going down this streaming rabbit hole and my head is spinning... from my light research, I was under the impression that bluetooth was inferior to dedicated streaming off the network. Is this product you recommend just better technology that circumvents the limitations of BT? I realize this video is 2 years old, so perhaps things have changed. Thanks again!

  • @petervanderham4725
    @petervanderham4725 Před 3 lety +2

    The Node 2i now supports Tidal Connect to, which greatly improved the usability for me. Love the Node 2i :)

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      I really want to try one of those out

    • @petervanderham4725
      @petervanderham4725 Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman I can only recommend it! It's great!

    • @sabrowenie
      @sabrowenie Před 2 lety +1

      I’m a Tidal sub. I get the veterans discount so no significant difference in cost. But I tried Amazon HD. SQ was subjectively as good as Tidal. But no “Connect” feature was the killer. I understand that Amazon wants to push their product. But I like convenience.

  • @unabonger777
    @unabonger777 Před 3 lety +1

    Thanks for the review. If I plug the Topping straight into a stereo power amp via line out, will the volume on my phone control the volume level out of the Topping?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      In theory it should if you are connected to the headphone out instead of the line out but in practice it doesn't. Actual volume needs to be controlled on unit itself or through whichever amp you're using.

  • @Burivukh
    @Burivukh Před 3 lety +1

    I've bought bc3 7 months ago and this small thing made me happy. I've spent only 60 USD instead of 1500 USD for the same sound quality!

    • @Burivukh
      @Burivukh Před 3 lety

      Additional info: I've compared bc3 and ibasso dx220 (via SPDIF). Ibasso sounds MUCH better! Going to buy it next month.

  • @Rtuzemsky
    @Rtuzemsky Před 2 lety +1

    How is the sound quality if I used Yutube music or Spotify app on my LG smart TV optical sound out+DAC?

  • @Brian_Romska
    @Brian_Romska Před 3 lety +1

    So this is the 1st vid of yours that caught my eye, I've seen a couple other guys mention stuff like this but never in such detail. I really thought I needed a good dedicated streamer and/or dac but now I understand things a bit better. I use spotify premium, for now, so obviously a $500 streamer would just be a waste at this time. Currently I only have a decent onkyo reciever 7.1 setup and once I find the right ldac bluetooth reciever I'll decide on a decent amp to go with it and hopefully be able to try out a couple decent speaker options too. I'm pretty sure my system sounds great but I really have no reference, so part of this process is kinda to establish a decent stereo setup and verify whether or not there's room for improvement over the onkyo, the rest is just gonna be for fun, thanks again!

  • @hurricanebillbass1
    @hurricanebillbass1 Před 3 lety +2

    Hi Randy, love your videos and have used several of your product recommendations. In this video I am still a bit confused on how to hook up an iPad to my Hi Fi system. I want to use my iPad as my Music Streamer primarily using Amazon HD Unlimited. I originally thought I could go from my iPad to my Outboard DAC to my Hi Fi. I am not concerned about super high resolution audio. CD quality is perfect for my needs. Anyway, do I really need a Bluetooth device between my iPad and my Hi Fi ? Thanks 🙏

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      For sure get the Amazon link and hook it up to Alexa. $200 and true streaming. I haven’t done the review yet but it your heavy Amazon music user it’s a no brainer.

    • @hurricanebillbass1
      @hurricanebillbass1 Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman , thanks Randy ! Your the BEST 😎 Actually waiting for Prime Day in 2 more weeks, June 21st this year. The Echo Link is already sitting in my Amazon Save for Later checkout basket. Hoping there will be a significant discount on Prime Day 🙏 For anyone else interested, Amazon just recently lowered the price for Amazon HD Unlimited. If your a Prime Member, the monthly subscription is even lower. Plus the first 4 months are FREE, if your a new subscriber. Enjoy 😉

  • @SamuraiGuy
    @SamuraiGuy Před 2 lety +1

    My current streamer setup is a Chromecast ($30) into an HDMI audio extractor ($20). I run that into a receiver I got used with a Klipsch 5.1 speaker set and speaker wire all for $75. I'm shocked I was able to get a complete setup for $125.
    Even if you factor in that the rear channels didn't work on that receiver, and I got a better one (also used) or $50, I still paid less than $200 for a complete home theater sound system.
    I remember asking on a forum for recommendations for an amp, dac, headphones, and speakers with an overall budget of $300. Multiple people told me to just pick one with that budget. The most I ever spent on HiFi was my Sennheiser HD58x, and it's the worst purchase I've ever made in the space. I enjoy my Moondrop Quarks more.

  • @davehood1514
    @davehood1514 Před 2 lety

    I Like your content, I also like Amazon music, great quality and cheap especially the family deal, I use a Google pixel phone with high quality UBC cable to my chord mojo DAC and a pair of old Sennisiser hd 600 headphones with USB Audio pro App to get around Android limitations on bit rate/sampling, I find Bluetooth limited even with ldac you will not get high resolution due to max bit rate of 990 kB speed and you will be lucky to get the max as most phones can't, cheers Dave.

  • @lazo69er
    @lazo69er Před 3 lety

    If I use a old Samsung mobile phone as the server, how can you control it remotely from the lstening chair. Is this possible?

  • @ericnortan9012
    @ericnortan9012 Před 3 lety +3

    my music streamer is my TV. Amazon music, XMradio, You Tube for a little visual stimulation, though you tube sounds like crap. I like the sound of Amazon.

  • @rodkubo5679
    @rodkubo5679 Před 3 lety

    Do I need more than LDAC or Aptx HD Bluetooth for streaming only youtube music premium 256 kbps AAC? Or do I get a dedicated streamer like the Bluesound node 2i?

  • @liberation26m67
    @liberation26m67 Před 3 lety

    Hi. Love your videos. When we stream via bluetooth, does the digital to Analogue conversation happen via the DAC in the phone?

  • @gregorymroz3600
    @gregorymroz3600 Před 2 lety

    does the Zen plug directly into my surround sound receiver with HDMI? or RCA?, Do I still need a DAC between the Zen and receiver? What can I do for the soundbar on another location in house and computer in the office to stream Amazon Music?

  • @brandonbrodbeck6688
    @brandonbrodbeck6688 Před 3 lety

    I have a question if anyone could answer. I have a denon 530bt receiver that has Bluetooth. Does anyone know if that can play hi res music tho?

  • @JSmooth1967
    @JSmooth1967 Před 2 lety

    Was wondering if you could give me some advice. So are you saying that the Audioengine Bluetooth receiver I have connected to my marantz sr7010 receiver is already giving me Highres audio comparable to a streamer? I either connect my galaxy s22 ultra or my FiiO M11 to the Bluetooth receiver via aptxHD and It sounds really good but I always thought I needed to buy a DAC and a steamer

  • @sudheshsankarkk
    @sudheshsankarkk Před rokem

    Thank you for sharing 🙏

  • @organicphoto
    @organicphoto Před 2 lety

    I'm new to all of this so please forgive me for my lack of knowledge but I thought I had read that connecting to Bluetooth isn't as good audio quality as connecting through Wi-Fi. If that's true, do any of the recommendations in this video still apply to connecting via Wi-Fi? Thanks in advance for any advice or suggestions.

  • @mattyj3051
    @mattyj3051 Před 3 lety

    I am streaming Amazon HD from my iPad bluetooth to my iFi Zen Blue. It says currently playing at 24-bit/44.1. Is that considered Hi Rez?..HD or ultra HD? .... this is all very confusing. Sounds great though.

  • @planetag310
    @planetag310 Před 2 lety

    How does your solution compare with the sound quality-wise of streaming with a laptop connected to a dac?

  • @z06fan3411
    @z06fan3411 Před 3 lety

    Can anyone make a suggestion on the exact model of tablet I can buy to stream hi res?

  • @suncani
    @suncani Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Randy. Thank you for your kind explaination on music streamers etc I guess Raspberry Pi (with a dedicated Hifi HAT) makes a more complicated and less convinient way to stream music from internet music atreaming services like spotify etc. Do you ever face any drop outs or simmilar interuptions when using LDAC and this little bluetooth device? Is it prone to interuptions when your phone/tablet is too far from the bluetooth receiver like 20 feet or so? You actually made me buy one of these little guys. Thank you brother. God bless. Sani

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      I think the rasberry pi with a hifi hat can be a very effective spotify end point. I'd recommend ethernet connection though as the wifi on mine is spotty at best. I think with a hardwired connection it can be a good lower cost solution. BT can and will drop out with distance of course. The BC3 is also small so the antennae will also be small. I think it performed as well as other BT devices but this would be an "in room" solution instead of streaming through the internet. I just don't think that internet streaming from dedicated devices is quite there yet. I also did a review on the Marantz NR1711 where I talk about it's streaming shortfalls. I'd like to get my hands on the Bluesound Node 2i as I've heard better things about it. Good luck and thanks so much for watching.

    • @suncani
      @suncani Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman thanks Randy. God bless brother

  • @tharveytucker1
    @tharveytucker1 Před 3 lety +1

    Most mini amps already have Bluetooth 5 and aptx that I’ve noticed

  • @bigbro8439
    @bigbro8439 Před rokem

    Hi, just seen your video. Wanted to buy a streamer but you are totally right about the apps. i had a Blue note streamer and I hated the GUI. Now I am using the Qobuz outlay and I find it much better. I would like to buy the ldac receiver but want to make sure my mac air sends out more than AAC. Or does the LDAC transform the AAC signal into hires(which I think is impossible)?

  • @Zeck88522
    @Zeck88522 Před 3 lety +2

    I watch CZcams a lot so i have Premium $10 a month. It also comes with CZcams stream (CZcams gotten alot better with audio) sometimes I play music from my TV via HDMI or from my AirPlay on iPhone to a receiver

  • @ENGLISHISBEST
    @ENGLISHISBEST Před 7 měsíci

    This video is a few years older, today 5th December 2023 I purchased th latest amazon fire hd 8 with Bluetooth 5.2 & 1 tb memory card to put on my 3000 flac albums & streamed them through my bluetooth YMOO Optical Bluetooth 5.3 Adapter Audio for TV Speaker/Bluetooth Headphone/Plane1 , 2 in 1 Toslink & 3.5mm Bluetooth Transmitter and Receiver for Lossless Stereo Audio, Dual Link aptX LL,130ft Range
    Optical. & it sounds great.

  • @N1IA-4
    @N1IA-4 Před 3 lety

    I'm using a Cambridge Audio AXA25 integrated amplifier with analog only RCA inputs. Can I connect this Topping BC3 to one of those inputs via the Topping headphone out and get great sound? Or will it sound bad? It would be using the DAC inside the Topping of course.

    • @producer_ben
      @producer_ben Před 2 lety

      In short, no. The inputs on your cambridge (nice choice by the way) are at a fixed "line level " and without getting to in depth, a headphone output is not only variable, but also gives out way to much volume for a line input. Doing as you suggest would do more harm than good. Topping make great DACs and all the ones i know of have "line output" sockets at the back. Check yours. It maybe 3.5mm or they may be red and white phono/rca connections. Either way, the word you need to look for is "Line". All your inputs on any hifi equipment (except phono (turntable) ) require line level signals :)

  • @rvpl9264
    @rvpl9264 Před 3 lety

    On the Rasp Pi streaming Spotify - How do you select what to play?
    Thanks.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      You have to use an operating system that supports spotify connect. I used Volumio. When you get it connected to your network then it will show up in the spotify app where you can connect to "end points" basically

  • @saintly_guy
    @saintly_guy Před 11 měsíci

    I have fosi v3… i want to buy a bluetooth dac for it… which one would be better if I want to connect via rca - wiim mini or nobsound Q4 ?

  • @utkwheels
    @utkwheels Před 2 lety

    Hey Randy, I currently stream music with amazon music through my smart tv. Do you think it would make a difference in the sound if I got an outboard dac?

    • @producer_ben
      @producer_ben Před 2 lety

      To be fair, even just using a soundbar will make a huge difference. Most soundbars have digital inputs, which also means they have a DAC built into them also. So it kinda covers both your cinc, you'll enjoy much better sound with better depth and clarity AND you'll be using a DAC and all in the one "box" :)

  • @ke4cci
    @ke4cci Před 2 lety

    Which tablet do you recommend for this budget?

  • @martijnbroekman
    @martijnbroekman Před rokem

    Hi Randy,
    I cannot tell you how much I appreciate your youtube channel. So keep up the good work.
    My experience with this streamers is very good, sound quality wise. But the sound level output is pretty crappy, low output/low volume, when I stream from all my devices (apple, samsung, "windy hoos" laptop). Is this device a exception to most others?
    Did you try the sonab speakers already?

  • @IczeWoulfe
    @IczeWoulfe Před 2 lety

    Should a Bluetooth audio receiver be connected to a DAC before going into the amp?

  • @arunkumarnsmorpheus1983

    Absolutely beautiful video of slicing through all the existing bull crap.

  • @Unicorn-ST
    @Unicorn-ST Před 2 lety

    The problem I find in using Bluetooth if your phone is the music source is that you are transmiting to the BT receiver all the sound in the phone, inlcuding calls and notifications.
    Instead a BT receiver I prefer to use a Chromecast Audio or a simple Chromecast with a HDMI toslink converter. Very cheap solutions that also allows to you a multi-room use ;)

  • @martinbecklen6486
    @martinbecklen6486 Před 3 lety +2

    As a newbie to streaming, I would've like to have 60 to 120 seconds of 'introduction' to the concept of a 'home NAS' and it's benefits to home (or office) dwellers. Then, the concept of streaming one's music would make a lot more sense. Otherwise, the above video was good.

    • @producer_ben
      @producer_ben Před 2 lety

      I can elaborate for you : a NAS means "Network Attached Storage ". If you imagine it like a USB stick, but it can hold A LOT more data. U usb stick can hold maybe up to 30 gigabytes of data, where as a NAS can hold many terabytes of data (some even more). A NAS can be used for all manner of applications, they can store photos, videos, documents, you can back up your computer to them, pretty much the options of data types are limitless. However, those that have a passion for videos/ Movies, Music or both will have a NAS dedicated purely for these purposes. The word "Synology" was mentioned, that's just a brand name of NAS, there are many in the same way, computers have many brand names. As for "the concept " of streaming music, well depending upon your stand point with audio, firstly it allows you to be able to get rid of that pile of or wall of CDs and have them all in a small (ish) box as a series of zeros and ones (basically, stored on your NAS). You can also join "streaming services " like Tidal, Qobuz and ithers and download all manner of music that you like in very high quality (and believe it or not, even higher quality than cd). So, now you have a NAS, your CDs are in the NAS, it now also means that anything connected to your Internet router either by WiFi or LAN cable can acces the NAS and "stream " that music or video. It's definitely a convenience, but for some the initial outlay and/or the technical setup side is too much to take on and so don't venture down this route. I hope hope this gives you more clarity 🙂

  • @pointsbeingmade7996
    @pointsbeingmade7996 Před 3 lety

    I felt the same way i use my macbook and i play music on elac b5:s and i have a good TT and cd player with a good dac.
    Gonna check out the bluetooth gadget for 60 instead of getting a more expensive dac or a streamer with a worse app than already free with the computer phobe ipad

  • @diegocanale1124
    @diegocanale1124 Před rokem

    Are the dac chips in the Topping and Zen Blue better than any commercial integrated amps/systems?

  • @saysbadman
    @saysbadman Před 3 lety

    Not picking at you, but wanted more info on the statement usb digital audio being bad/crappy output. (1:48) I don’t understand, are you talking about the pi having bad usb output or just usb out in general is bad. Can’t usb 2.0 support like 40MBps. Is it not well utilized? I literally have no experience with usb digital audio, but was planning on using it with something like the smsl ad18 with my pc.

    • @Slant88
      @Slant88 Před 3 lety

      Usb has issues, including noise, beyond the bitrate (and the zeroes and ones). Over my head but written about and talked about by a handful of reviewers. If you can try an A/B, probably best so you can see if you and your system noticed the diff

  • @barrrybarrry
    @barrrybarrry Před 2 lety

    Is there a difference between this option or using my Sony Bravia TV?

  • @bdisaac1
    @bdisaac1 Před 3 lety

    I’m using apple airport express connected to my schiit modi...sounds great and not limited to Bluetooth range.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      Funny you mention that. We talked about that quite a bit on the patron zoom last night

  • @FlyerKraig
    @FlyerKraig Před rokem

    Subscribed! Whats the best way to stream a local collection and be able access it from anywhere,through a web interface?

  • @ramondelgado6778
    @ramondelgado6778 Před 3 lety

    I always wondered what is inside of the Marantz NA6006 that makes it worth $700. I think my Google Pixel 3A is a great streamer and my Bluedento BLT-HD2 (Bluetooth DAC combo) to my Marantz NR1403 via a nice set of Maze Audio RCA interconnects sounds pretty good. How can I make it better? Thanks and great review! Good audio can be affordable.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +3

      The best thing to do is to choose the music streamer that uses all the horsepower of the devices you already have. It would have to be a CD quality or better streaming service. You should Notice a difference and they all have free trial. To see which one you like the best

    • @ramondelgado6778
      @ramondelgado6778 Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman thank you for the response. So the equipment I already have is good enough and you suggest searching for the best streaming service? Thanks again.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      @@ramondelgado6778 yes. Right now the equipment you have will support high res streaming to your BT receiver. Your bottleneck and weakest link is the music service you’re using. So look into a high res streaming service. Quobuz and Amazon HD are cheaper than Tidal. I prefer Amazon personally but both will give you much higher resolution than CZcams music or Spotify. Good luck and let me know if you hear a difference.

  • @raymoore8435
    @raymoore8435 Před 3 lety

    Newbie here, how or with what cable do you use to connect Topping BC3 to Emotiva TA-100, love the channel!

    • @robotcowhand1276
      @robotcowhand1276 Před 3 lety +1

      Just put this exact setup together, I use "FosPower (0.9M / 3FT) 24K Gold Plated Toslink to Mini Toslink Digital Optical S/PDIF Audio Cable"

    • @robotcowhand1276
      @robotcowhand1276 Před 3 lety +1

      Worth noting, you can also use a USB charging cable in the back of the TA-100 to keep the Topping charged up. Works great.

    • @raymoore8435
      @raymoore8435 Před 3 lety

      @@robotcowhand1276 Thanks, I was wondering about that.

  • @artsmodelstation9396
    @artsmodelstation9396 Před 3 lety

    I have my appleTV connected to my receiver via a optical cable and use Spotify. Works and sounds good.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      which apple tv is that? did they just upgrade to a unit with an optical out? that would be awesome if they did.

    • @artsmodelstation9396
      @artsmodelstation9396 Před 3 lety

      @@cheapaudioman no, but that didn’t stop me 😆 ...cheapo hdmi (has optical) converter from Amazon.

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety

      @@artsmodelstation9396 I tried to do the same thing and I couldn’t get it to work. I think it was something going on with the receiver though. I’ve got one of those. I’ll try it again sometime.

  • @Johnny-ov7qe
    @Johnny-ov7qe Před 7 měsíci

    I just use my AirPort Express WiFi router for streaming. 3.5 to RCA to my McIntosh pre amp and it works and sounds great to my ears

  • @donswanson3322
    @donswanson3322 Před 3 lety

    Randy ! You're out here speaking the truth #cheapaudioman for Congress ELAC's for everyone

  • @schoebelski6602
    @schoebelski6602 Před 3 lety

    awesome. thanks. new sub! 😀👍 ....how can I combine this nice 60bucks Dac with multiroom functionality?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      multi room would depend on the type of amp you have and whether or not it can support multiple zones.

  • @mikegoddard7354
    @mikegoddard7354 Před 3 lety +1

    What about the Fiio BTA30, seems to be a little bit more modern for newer phones and tech

    • @producer_ben
      @producer_ben Před 2 lety +1

      Fiio's are great little DACs.

    • @mikegoddard7354
      @mikegoddard7354 Před 2 lety

      @@producer_ben I got lucky enough to find a Q5S with stock THX module[AM3D], that is one damn good portable dac amp. Sucks they are no longer producing it. Honestly, I would say it's better than some of desktop AIO units.
      It's no wonder that used and open box units are going for more expensive than its original MSRP

  • @ss4717
    @ss4717 Před 3 lety

    I have the same frustration!

  • @stevenburdick424
    @stevenburdick424 Před 3 lety

    I use Roon and Tidal. Love them.

  • @dashcammer4322
    @dashcammer4322 Před 2 lety

    My streaming device is an old Asus ZenPad S 8.0 tablet. 24-bit/48kHz. Headphone out to the receiver. I'm satisfied.

  • @roygumpel8415
    @roygumpel8415 Před 3 lety

    question..... I do not see this device when I try to buy one. can someone help me out by either spelling it out completely or just giving a link to where it is being sold? (or if there is an even better one now, since Randy's video was in the olden days of 2020. Thanks!

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +1

      Roy. These seem to be difficult to come buy. Also, the functionality of these has proved to be more challenging than some. I would recommend the Ifi Zen Blue instead. amzn.to/32wEcmo

  • @iPleinAir
    @iPleinAir Před 2 lety

    Dying to know what the watch is on your wrist. Looks like an old school Air King or OP34 with a silver Arabic 3 6 9 dial.

  • @brydon10
    @brydon10 Před 2 lety +1

    There's a newer Bluesound Node than the 2i. It's just called the Node now.

  • @brettdyrland7624
    @brettdyrland7624 Před 2 lety

    Agreed Fully! I have a $20 Chromecast Audio, using optical out, and I cannot find a reason to go to anything else. I can use the native app on any platform and stream 24/96 audio. Why pay hundreds of dollars?

  • @justineldermans
    @justineldermans Před 3 lety

    I can use Bluetooth on the Chord Hugo 2 and it works fine but sound quality isn't even as good as the digital output of a Chromecast Audio

  • @walterlangkowski4723
    @walterlangkowski4723 Před 2 lety

    I’m such a noob, I think I need to take a step back and really do my research I was going to go wired all day but now I’m second guessing everything after watching this

  • @filippiasec
    @filippiasec Před 3 lety +6

    I use for years a chromecast audio (circa 25 usd, used only). It has optical out, it has analogue out, and works on every app on android. Also, support groups, integration etc. And the music doesnt go through your phone, so you may even trun it off. You could also stream from your pc. The problem is that Google stopped selling this (probably to sell their own allinone things). But you can still get a new chromecast with hdmi and extract optical out/coax to your DAC. Cheers from Poland

    • @BeatPoet67
      @BeatPoet67 Před 3 lety

      +1 for Chromecast. I got mine for £24 and optical out into my DAC using Tidal. Sounds great.

    • @victorvannatter312
      @victorvannatter312 Před 2 lety

      I just use the TV's optical out to my DAC through my Chromecast. Works great. it upscales everything to 48khz but I don't mind or notice. Sounds great. And I get album art. But the tv does need to be on. Or I'll airplay to the tv itself which also goes out the optical to the DAC and also sounds great

  • @richardrosetta2728
    @richardrosetta2728 Před 3 lety

    Maybe I missed it but what is the ldac product your talking about?

    • @cheapaudioman
      @cheapaudioman  Před 3 lety +2

      That was the topping BC3 but I would suggest the ifi zen blue

  • @akispapasavvas9307
    @akispapasavvas9307 Před 3 lety

    What about Chromecast Audio?

  • @emiliomanueldelapenacastro1879

    How can i transmit to 12 headphones from the same audio of a computer ?