Margin Call (3/9) Movie CLIP - The Music Stops (2011) HD
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Peter Sullivan (Zachary Quinto) explains to executive John Tuld (Jeremy Irons) the state of affairs at their investment firm.
FILM DESCRIPTION:
Investment-firm analyst Peter Sullivan (Zachary Quinto) uncovers sensitive information that could easily plunge the entire business into peril, inadvertently destroying the lives and careers of his colleagues in this tense thriller set during the onset of the 2008 financial crisis. Over the course of the next 24 hours, Sullivan realizes that the decisions he makes will not only affect the employees of the firm, but the lives of everyday Americans from coast to coast as well. Kevin Spacey, Jeremy Irons, Stanley Tucci, Demi Moore, and Paul Bettany co-star.
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Cast: Kevin Spacey, Paul Bettany, Jeremy Irons, Zachary Quinto, Penn Badgley, Simon Baker, Demi Moore, Aasif Mandvi
Director: J.C. Chandor
Producers: Sean Akers, Robert Ogden Barnum, Michael Benaroya, Joshua Blum, Kirk D'Amico, Neal Dodson, Cassian Elwes, Rose Ganguzza, Anna Gerb, Daniel Hendler, Joe Jenckes, Lawrence M. Kopeikin, Susan Leber, Randy Manis, Corey Moosa, Zachary Quinto, Laura Rister
Screenwriter: J.C. Chandor
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I recently watched this for the first time on a red-eye flight around 2am. The plane was quiet, lights low and I was restless. This movie just grabbed me and was stuck in my head for weeks afterwards. The tension in the plot and dialogue plus keeping the movie in a 24-36 hour time frame was perfect. Watched it a few times since and never gets boring.
just_b yes, its great movie, every word is true, greedy is capitalism.
just_b true fact is that to be smartest, to be first and to win in competition on the global markets, capitalism will always belongs to winners in business.
Dmytry: greedy capitalism? why does greedy socialism get a pass? You are up
Wilhelm: I agree but Socialists ALWAYS get a pass
Looks like it became a very memorable plane ride for you.. it’s quite unusual that a movie without al the modern visual effects-just great dialogue-can capture our imagination.
The timing of Jeremy Irons saying 'silence' and then the loudest outro of all time.
🤣🤣
1:36 a very subtle “yes” from Sullivan is brilliant writing and captures the gravity of the arena he is sitting in. It was a rhetorical question but given Sullivan is so out of his element here (although he did a great job in summarising the issue to the top dog) he nervously responds. Been in this situation once before and the feeling is both exhilarating but also absolutely nerve-wrecking. Like you’ve received a key to an exclusive secret society. Deliberate but a very effective little nuance to this already brilliant scene
Sometimes you still have to answer it.
The curtains are turquoise
@@bobfg3130 Earlier in the meeting when asked about the three things, Jared remain quiet and just let the boss talked. I think it 's a good comparison on someone who has been in the club compared to Sullivan who is just glancing from the doorway.
The movie has hundreds of nuances like that. No matter how many times you watch you'll always catch something new and interesting when you watch it again.
@@absboodoo Emerson is quiet too, in fact, he doesn't speak a single sentence in the whole board meeting scene
Any sentence Jeremy Irons speaks sounds like a god's judgment.
Jeremy Irons would probably be a much better old Batman than Ben Affleck. Such a wasted opportunity.
Kiss of freaking doom!
Some people are really gifted. I wish I had a better voice.
The definitive Claus von Bulow. Actually better than the real thing
Is that the guy who played Macon Ravenwood in Beautiful Creatures?
What captivates me about this scene is that Tuld didn't even look at the draft. He already knew what was going on before he entered the meeting. And it only led the other corporates to say what he wanted to hear. Outstanding writing....
What’s really impressive is the attention to detail to the audio mastering. The throw of the dialogue changes based on the camera angle ever so subtlety that you are immersed in the scene. It’s incredible.
It's true. Most CEO's aren't rocket scientists with physics backgrounds like the kid doing the analysis, they're simply able to hold court in tense situations like that and make big executive decisions to thwart great losses.
They’re not rocket scientist but spend decades in financial market analyses
So they might as well have a PhD in finance
@Johnathan Hardegger Except... CEO's absolutely do crunch numbers and do intricate analysis, in fact they often times do it more than the managers; albeit with wider depth. Do you own a business? Logistics is one of the main executive issues for a CEO/Owner. I like how everyone is claiming "oh this CEO is more street smart than numbers smart" yet in the dinner scene he literally lists every economic recession in history by date and memory, as well as going on about the percentages of success that define society.
CEO's might not be "rocket scientists", but often time's they DEFINITELY are the Business/Financial equivalent; and dare I say that the knowledge of High Finance needed to maintain a profitable business on the multi-national scale, is just as brain-demanding as Physics. The *difference* with CEO's is that they don't *ONLY* rely on quantitative intellect (numbers smart); this is what separates them from people like the rocket scientist kid. They have equal parts quantitative intellect *AND* leadership acumen; thus they are able to discern the most logical route to take (thanks to quantitative intellect), and then able to execute that route in the most optimal way (thanks to leadership acumen).
This myth that CEO's don't need to be "numbers smart" is something regular people tell themselves, so in the back of their head they can allow themselves to think that maybe, one day, they could be a CEO too.
How would you say one could...get better at these things? Just needing to make a decision and lead the way and not ask for the directions?
That’s because it’s easy to follow. It’s difficult to carve a route, lead the way and convince everyone to follow your path.
Earlier in the movie, I thought it was funny how the higher up they go in terms of position, the less they're able to read the computer analysis. Sullivan had to explain it a little bit to his immediate boss, then when Kevin Spacey came in he's like: "oh come on, you know I can't read these things."
I like how Jeremy Irons rubs his nose in the beginning, like he just finished doing a line of coke before the meeting
emergency meeting at 4 am you can bet lmao
With Matthew Mcconauhgey.
@@TheDragiix3 when coffee won’t do the trick lol
@@johnjuhasz9125 I bet Jeremy Irons does not have rooky numbers.
Imagine having a midnight crisis meeting with Scar
I love Jeremy Irons performance. He is among my favorite actors.
Still one of the greatest scenes in cinema.
Jeremy Irons at his best !!!
Absolutely right!
I also like the way the Irons looks to his right to make sure that all the silent brains are paying attention. I get the impression he was also thinking 'you twats have let me down bigtime, but I shall have my revenge!'
+Gary Nicholls Nope that's not at all what was going on in his mind. They knew what he was gonna ask of them, the silence in the room means that what they were gonna do something unethical but legal.
+bigbullbk You're both wrong. He was looking over to his right because he wanted the young guy to speak clearly without any pressure at all from his overseers. Right before this interview, they were warned that Iron didn't like any sugarcoating, and he was looking to his right to make sure that remained true.
+Persian Carpet I must be mistaking then because I was referring to when he turned his head when he was standing up. If you mean when he turns his head when he was sitting at the beginning, then you're right.
+bigbullbk I see. Yes, we are talking about two different parts. I didn't think it was the take when he is standing up, because he's not necessarily turning his head to "his right". Rather, he was facing them directly when he turned his body and didn't turn his head. I am mistaken.
The table to his right have the executive branch of the company, the ones that lead them into this current predicament. He's not as uninformed nor ignorant as he puts out. He put that front out so he could get a sacrificial lamb to pin the blame on later on. During the initial briefing by Sam to Jared, Jared step out of the room for 2 minutes and then came back with a plan. During that time, he woke up Tuld and gave him the bad news.
My goodness, there are SO many amazing actors in this.
And they all put in amazing performances.
"Just...silence."
CUE OUTRO MUSIC.
Jeremy Irons portrayal in this film, his performance, is an absolute masterpiece. I’ve been in many tense boardroom meetings - and been in a company where the Chairman made the room as tense as he does in this film. It gives me the chills, as the portrayal is so accurate in terms of how it makes you feel
If I had an insane amount of money, I’d hire Mr. Irons to narrate my life.
If it could be anyone, I would choose Charlton Heston to narrate my life.
You are speaking with me Mr. Sullivan ... Everyone else in the room was told exactly who is in charge, they were now irrelevant
Why I’m in this chair with you all. I mean why I earn the big bucks.
Then he immediately stands out of his chair, displaying I’m not in the same seat as you!
Love this movie in so many ways. Acting 101 Class is on another level. Well done Cast, well done
Jeremy Irons is sooo underrated in the film industry. Incredible character
The word "underrated" is so overused and misused in the comment section by people who have little to nothing interesting to add, so they just drop the "someone is underrated" line.
he certainly is not.he has done very well. owns a castle in Ireland.He was at a music festival I was at and my friends in Ireland are always seeing him in thr pubs in Bantry.Not uber friendly tho to the plebs
loved this movie. we need more like this one. I was riveted. watched it two times in a row and didn't get enough.
+Lyndon Eaton I am afraid that I don't hear a thing... just silence...
that is a good thing. Let the conspirators be over confident.
I know, I thought this movie was way better than the Big Short.
Writing is everything. Movies can be so intelligently drafted with well drawn characters. It used to be effortless
2020 : THIS IS IT !
“Just silence.”
*and that stupid outro music*
The thing about the music slowing down vs stopping is probably more relevant now than ever before...
Great scene....just....silence
1:30 he sat down just 2 stand up lmao😂
I can't remember most of what I have learned in life, but I can somehow just about recite every damn word Jeremy Irons says in this scene without even intending to.
"And standing here tonight, I'm afraid that I don't hear a thing just silence" Looks at stockmarket worldwide
"I'm standing here tonight"
You never want to hear your the boss of you bosses boss look right at you and say "let me tell you something "
One of the best movies I have ever watched, with a very talented cast.
1:37
I am here for one reason and one reason alone. I am here to guess what the music might do a week a month a year from now. That's it. Nothing more.
Sums up whole Profession of investment bankers, Technical, Equity Analysis in two sentences.
Yeah this movie scares me, but I can't stop watching it against, and again, and again. I work corporate and redundancies are a way of life, really scary crap too. But I still watch it!
This movie is so good.
I’m literally being served bank ads before this video. Oh YT, your algorithms still have so much to learn.
Everyone praising the CEO for his judgment etc. at this meeting is, I think, just infatuated with the actor?
They forget that the plot in this movie makes it clear that the CEO, the blond hair dude and Robertson (Demi Moore) all knew weeks beforehand the risks involved and that they allowed the company to push and break through those 'historical levels' due to their greed!
Not only that. They fired Tucci's character to hide it.
@@EdwardLewisIV in correct. eric was just fired because they downsized the entire risk department, only two analysis are left. furthermore all trades are risk, it does no one any good to say that a trade is "risk". the risk needs to quantified, and before peter did the math no one was able to quantity the risk. Sarah failure is basically she wasn't able to quantity the risk. Peter gets promoted because he is able to quantify the risk.
Even thought i don't get any of the terminology i get the point !
This was a great movie. As was Contagion.
You predicted corona lmao
Irons does great with this.
at the end of the movie, mr sullivan was promoted, thts how u go up in the corporate ladder, get a shot of chance to impress your boss's boss
In this case it would be more like 4 boss layers up.
So when irons say he doesnt hear a thing he meant there is no way out other than to dump that "odorous excrement" on someone else yard and to do it as soon as daylight break the dawn.
Just.......silence....
*_BLARING OUTRO THEME!!!!_*
2022 and the music hasn't just stopped but the record player has fallen off the table and somehow caught the house on fire.
There is no more music... Just recordings of the music that was.
Amazing performance! I really like his carisma and humor
*charisma
“Im here to guess what the music might do a week, a month, a year from now.” So Tuld should have known a year ago.
That’s just it - the movie heavily implies that he did know, and Will, Sam, Sarah, And Jared knew too. Eric Dale tried to tell them a year ago
Underrated movie, this scene itself it’s peak.
Credit Suisse today
Where was THIS Jeremy Irons during the Dungeons & Dragons movie?! -_-
Taking a backseat because he knew the script wasn't good for him and he was going "f--k it, I'm just going to have fun".
@@kereminde He just bought a castle, it's expensive upkeep.
some channels do not know how to clip movie clips. To capture the meaning and what was said in this meeting the clips have to be longer. It was a great scene and should be allowed many more seconds.
Imagine if Jeremy Irons had a young daughter, and it was her birthday... and she and her friends decided to play musical chairs...
GAME OVER!!!!
why no 1080p?
SHORT EVERYTHING!!!!!!💯😆
Quite an admission, he [Jeremy Irons] is there "...to guess what the music will be in a day, a week, a month from now ..." Does that mean that when he guessed a week earlier he got it wrong or did he already know but decided to keep it quiet?
I 'guess' we'll never know.
+Gary Nicholls He makes predictions based on the information he was given. He wasn't given this information a week ago so he thought the music was still playing. After being shown the model of market volatility and saying they would lose everything because they were too leveraged, he made the prediction that the music has stopped. Seems very reasonable to me.....
+Willsturd Well if the model was telling him that he would loose everything, it is pretty much a no brainier to realize the music had stopped. Just shows that CEO's are assholes with their massive bonuses while the real work is done by the real people.
bobesfanchi I think you'll be hard pressed to find a CEO that doesn't work hard. Charles Koch and Warren Buffett are working well into their 70's and 80's.
+Willsturd It is not a matter if they work hard or not, I am sure they do. what matter is - is this the way it should be. is the system unfair to the common working man. is what the wealthy elite do beyond the reach of the common man, and will it always be that way.
Lyndon Eaton Everybody has the opportunity to be the next Warren Buffett. Fact is, there is only one. A good and competent CEO is incredibly rare. But whatever. Lets pretend running the 5th largest company in the world is a walk in the park. Your criticism towards CEO's is almost as laughable as me criticizing Michael Jordan for being a lazy bitch for only winning 6 championships. Because that is exactly how difficult it is to keep hundreds of thousands of employees employed and ensuring that the thousands of pension funds invested in you continue to generate wealth.
I’m Jason’s mother. I love Jeremy Irons and Keven Spacey. I would love to have a sophisticated white linen one on one no strings attached these exquisite elite actors. Elite acting Irons/ Spacey. Thank you Sirs.
In the script, the number they keep referring to (but not mentioning) in this movie is $1.2 trillion.
Why are all of these clips so quiet?
At the end of a chain of 'sales of investment' there is /no/ exit to profitability.
I just hear scar
Not many people steal the show from Spacy. Mr Irons might be the only one who can
my goal is to sound as proficient as Sullivan in my career
we like the stock
This is the way.
irons earns the big box.
Uh oh
When I say the music stopped. I meant it had stopped, not fricking slowing down.
Citadel 2021?
I’m the momma: you’re da men boys. My favourite movie of all times. Luv da cast. Jeremy Cowboy and the rest which are too long to list here Pro actors. Realism right down to the favourite dog n shovel burial. Realism reinvented. I continually go back to view this movie
idk if it is me but i replay certain movie clips in my mind when making certain decisions. Then i come 2 watch again every so often acting was so good but this scneario can be applied to so many things.
It's april 2022, and again I hear absolutely no music. No drums, no guitar, not even a whistle.
I want that job
Alfred as Bruce Wayne.
the one and only time they got it right.
Goldman sachs about to stop?
Would an MBA get me a job at a company like this?
For me it was boring the first time i watched. i never really understood this meeting(scene) until i studied and invested in the stock market.
When i rewatched it. OMG, it was intense. im at the edge of my seat and uncomfortable the same time. WOW!
Welp, you might get a chance to watch it all again in real time.
jesus why are the audio levels so off on this one, the end theme deafened me
Which bank do they respresent?
Lehman brothers
Scar
Best scene in movie?
It’s 4/20/20 and the music is about to stop
The MBSs would still be worth something. They are just selling what they see as an overvalued asset.
+pirucreek When half of the tranches in the CDOs they're selling have effectively negative worth due to defaults they're practically worthless to begin with.
The thing people always get wrong about the financial crisis (and that this movie gets right) is they focus too much on the value of the houses and mortgages. The houses and mortgages were not the real problem. There were two main problems:
- Liquidity - you had to actually be able to sell the MBSes if you needed the money. But the MBS were products made for the risk/return needs of specific buyers. They were never really designed to make them easy to price and sell on a secondary market - they were instead designed to be held by the institutions for whom they were made. Once it was clear that some of them were just total toxic crap, and it wasn't clear which ones, this design problem made them extremely unattractive to buy, even if the underlying value was still there (it's multiple tranches of differently rated securitized loans with difference insurance against them, it's a mess). This is part of why the sales scenes are so important in this movie - once people weren't just buying these things made for them on faith, getting a transaction on this sort of thing to happen was a very specialized sort of thing to be able to do and the ability to do it basically vanished shortly after the events depicted in this movie.
- Leverage and contagion through financial products and the derivatives market. The buildup of financialization around the world in the proliferation of heavily leveraged, nominally enormous, often offsetting derivatives along with how much an investment like this was being leveraged means the effect from the loss of the home value was not really about the value of the home, it was magnified and contorted into all the other risks associated with it through all these contracts. Any sort of shock can have this kind of effect - with long-term capital management it was the devaluation of the ruble. The shock itself, to an extent, doesn't matter. It's the way the system is set up to absorb and transmit the shock, and in this case the system was a massive feedback loop with a ton of counterparty risk that nobody expected to ever actually come into play. People never expected _AIG_ to be unable to make good on its derivatives contracts. That sort of thing was a much bigger issue in the financial crisis than people not thinking mortgages would go down. People didn't expect the money market funds to crack, people didn't expect there to be not enough trade credit left to ship trash away from the Port of Long Beach. Everything was leveraged up for yield and everything was connected.
So yeah of these two forces the first is described in the whole sales plot of the movie, and the second is in the "musical chairs" game and the "it's just money" speech and the actions of the executives.
That's really what drove the magnitude and impact of that crisis much more than the stuff in the Big Short - the complaint the houses are worth less money. Because you're right, that itself wouldn't be so big of a problem as what happened in real life.
How does asset value decreases by 25% and that will be higher than the market value of whole company? I did not get that.
Put it simply, these companies borrow a lot of money to invest in assets. This is called "leverage." It means if they borrow at 5% interest rate, they hope to make 7% and earn the difference. Therefore, if these assets decreased by 25%, the entire company's assets will not be enough to cover their liabilities. The problem in 2008 is that companies like this should not have been able to borrow that much money without big enough collateral in the first place.
@@trivietle97 Ok.Thanks.
Tri Le very well put
Because of sheer volume. 500 Billion in borrowed assets decrease and they won’t have the liquidity to cover the loss. They essentially flip these products for quick profit and if they items they bought with borrowed money are suddenly worth less than they can’t repay the loans hence the margin call
Most US banks ,,,, even your local savings and loan are leveraged at about 20X,s there asset,s ( Europe about 15X,s ) and just like tri le said , they borrow at one rate and hope to get returns at a higher rate . The more complicated part of the mortgage crisis was, at the time a MBS ( mortgage backed security ) was a safe reliable investment , but did not pay all that much, maybe 2 or 3 % Big institutions ,pension funds , 401K,s college endowments etc would purchase them based on there stability over time. The problem is, if 4% of the mortgages in any one MBS fail ( they foreclose ) the MBS now looses 1 or 2 %. How much would you pay for a investment that is now guaranteed to loose money ? The answer is of course nothing . and that is how billions of dollars "disappear " over night.
It only took one Analyst to explain and one person to make a decision. What does everyone else do?? Gecko was right!
Said he gets paid the big bucks to know when the music is gonna stop , but he didn’t hear this coming tho
You are missing the point of this scene. He knew long in advance, all the senior management did, the thing is that they wanted to keep making money as long as possible before it did finally collapse, but they could never admit that, so they had to pretend like they just found out now.
The film is littered with subtle references to this throughout and it all comes to a head because someone has to take the fall for the 'mistake' of not seeing this coming, and that ends up being the woman exec. Obviously they are all paid extremely well to never say anything which is covered in one of the final scenes.
Ultimately this is what really happened with financial companies artificially inflating the value of these products long after the value of the underlying bonds had collapsed until one of them (goldman sachs in real life) begun unloading everything they had.
Next year, 2020: I hear... silence.
Repos already showing strain in overnight money markets. How much longer till the conductor concludes?
Corona is here
"Do you care to know why I sit in this chair? Why I make the big bucks?"
"No"
walks out of room, jumps up in the aIr, clicks his heels and holds up in triumph a pack of Juicy Fruit Gum.
awesome comment, that is actually hilariously relatable to 90% of America, the common folk ,haha
Video volume is too low, Credits Music Volume is too high...
Isn't this "Video thing" what you do?
If gamestop crosses the critical margin line, that loss would be greater then the entire market cap of your company. Shorts never closed.
That music in the end of every video you make is absolute garbage. It ALWAYS ruins the scenes you display, I don't know why you keep it.
Melvin capital...
I don;t watch movies anymore but was bore on xmas eve, I was randomly browsing the Netflix and saw demi moore face and that grabbed my attention but boy it was the best movie with excellent acting I was shaking to know how big guys manipulate with our lives and hard earned money, I will be very careful with investment with bad management
*bored
most movies compared to this are just unwatchable!
His company went bankrupt
If the music stops for a few weeks, we're all eating each other. 7,300,000,000 people fighting for survival... Imagine that world. Martial law, civil unrest, government army intervention, billions dead.
+Iseekknowledge Believe it or not, there were some people on this planet who didn't even notice there was a financial crisis. It had no impact on people that live in jungle or similar hostile environments because they have a different form of dependency. If the western world came to an end tomorrow lunchtime, some humans living in remote locations wouldn't even notice our demise. And good luck to them!
+Gary Nicholls well spoken. but like the native americans who didnt see it coming...someone would seek to conquer the people living in balance with nature.
+Gary Nicholls you are right. the Amish an those in the jungles were not affected. but the majority of the millions of people in the modern word were affected. and that is what must be faced. It is still wrong what is done behind closed doors that affects the common man.
Cue the Walking Dead theme. I don't even think it would take that long. 3-4 days without electricity worldwide? That'd probably do it. I think it would take centuries to fully recover.
Iseekknowledge fuck people, only smartest and strongest will survive, thats it, it will be new world. new mankind, more powerful and more stressful to changes.
In fact, the real CEO was falling very deep after his decision. ....
Is this film portrays only 1% of what really happened in 2008, then many people should have been imprisoned for 1000 years. Total disregard for anyone apart from themselves.
UK Government Cabinet meeting regarding BREXIT!!!😨
UK Government Cabinet meeting regarding CORONAVIRUS!!!😮😮
still salty?
I love how they squeeze in every minority- ahead is its time lol.
for goodness sake, do you have to play that exceedingly loud and annoying music at the end of every clip!
Its fun to listen to an Englishman attempt to pronounce an American "R".
Irons is not trying to sound American. He has done roles where he played Americans and can do the accent.
Sounds like the accent of an Englishman who's lived in America for a long time, which is probably his character's back story.