"I'm telling you, this is it!" - Margin Call (2011)
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- CEO John Tuld (Jeremy Irons) is briefed on the imminent crisis by division head Jared (Simon Baker), risk analyst Peter (Zachary Quinto) and floor head Sam (Kevin Spacey).
Film: Margin Call
Released: 2011
Director: J.C. Chandor
Distributors: Lionsgate, Roadside Attractions, Benaroya Pictures - Krátké a kreslené filmy
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Sometimes a movie comes along where there are no explosions, nobody getting killed, no car chases. Just a group of actors sitting at a table or standing in an office, absolutely killing it with a great script behind them, and you just can't stop watching.
This was one.
If you liked this I would highly recommend “Conspiracy” also.
@@kalebnegussie8140 Just checked Imdb, and there looks to be a series, a couple of movies and a documentary. If you can let me know which, I'll absolutely check it out. Thanks in advance.
Last man on earth and 12 angry men are also similar in production
@@chrismason7066 I have a copy of 12 Angry Men, and agree it's a cracking film. Don't think I've seen Last Man on Earth though, if it's the one with Vincent Price that is.
The thing that proves your point to me is that was a 10 minute video and it felt like a 3 minute video. I've seen the film before but I must have watched scenes from it on YT so many times over.
Everyone talking about Jeremy Irons and Kevin Spacey. I’m floored by Carmello’s confidence that he will find Eric Dale.
Man is sitting far end of the table from the boss for a reason. When they say Money can get you a lot of things, they are talking about men like Carmello.
"It's done."
Carmello was a made man in another life.
He knew where to find the shinebox Eric was hiding in.
Carmelo with just one L. It's an italian name (mainly common in Sicily)
Carmello was a made man and the MBS products and Eric Dale were not. They had to go. The financial world had to sit there and take it like good, little schmucks.
Most of the actors did not charge their usual fee for this film. That is why such an all-star cast still had a film with a total budget of just $3.5M.
Didn't know this! its a great film, if I was an actor i would choose the great scripts over £££
That's really impressive, i guess this movie shows what good dialogue combined with fantastic actors alone can do for a movie.
@@TehIdiotOne agreed! However in this day of age is few and far between
Quinto is freaking amazing.
I think most of the actors was told by phone call for a "Margin Calls" meeting, sat in this room, and they thought it was a literally a margin meeting.
The golden retriever isn’t the CEO, guys… the Golden Retriever is us, the audience.
Yeah. It's almost distasteful how obvious that is, that it essentially breaks the 4th wall.
@@daddyinacaddy Actually, I just noticed it now because of @Chrishagen's comment. When the CEO says, "It wasn't brains that got me here," it gives me goosebumps.
and other key members of the board in attendance.
And that is terrible adam mckay writing
Sure, this is partially an exposition, but the scene is accurate. In my experience CEOs are not the smartest guys of the company, but the ones who wanted money, postion and power the most. And they do like simplified things. But yeah, they're not like golden retrievers, more like chihuahuas.
What’s easy to miss here is that Tulda knows everything before this scene starts. He’s been briefed, and what this really is is a consensus building exercise.
Although I also cannot believe that ceo wouldn't be informed in advance of such a meeting, but from storytelling perspective it's consistent to assume that he didn't know. Do you have any arguments which are based on the movie?
He knew the first day that it could end that way, but there was so much money to do, plus, he would have been fired for not doing it !
Tulda knew from "weeks ago" that things were slipping and is not happy with the bopsie twins. Sullivan just brought it all home and the time to act is now.
@@decore1036 i think based on the way he plays it he does know. he plays dumber than he is, which since everyone in the room knows hes not dumb he's saying no bullshitting or trying to put a better face on things than they are. he wants to get the words "we're fucked" out of his board because thats what he already thinks. if he was learning of this stuff just now, after hearing the guys explanation, he would be going around the room trying to get a better prognosis out of anyone
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Kevin Spacey's silent reactions throughout the scene are terrific.
There's a bunch of quick cuts where it's just facial reactions. Demi Moore's was terrific. If I had more time, I bet there's a significance of who's face was shown during which part of the scene.
01:18 "It wasn't brains that got me here, I assure you that." And then puts on his most carnivorous smile. Lets the smile fade until only carnivorous is left. Suddenly you want to hide under the table. _That_ was what got him there. Brilliant!
You don't want Carmello looking for you at 0400.
I can feel it itching all over.
@@alexn4255 Charles Schwab here.
One of the best single scenes in film. Everyone acts their part to perfection and the writing is golden. It's a dramatization for sure, but for those who lived through this in the financial markets this is nearly a documentary.
Except for Demi Moore who could be out-acted by a wooden pallet.
@@FredSanford2003 I don’t agree. She played her part very well. She acts as someone in the character’s position would‘ve behaved in this type of setting
@@almasjezovski8867 I agree. She comes across as someone who was promoted too much intentionally to be the one whose job is to not get too nosy as everyone gets rich. When things go wrong they can easily cast blame when all along she didn't have the skills necessary for her position in the first place.
The little glance he has over at the Officers as he is listening to peter is very telling
Jeremy Irons is a damned good actor.
They captured the tension, the dynamics, the ambiance all so well. Really a phenomenal scene and movie.
To everyone wondering why the CEO went from ‘not knowing anything’ to knowing everything all along, bosses always do this so that they aren’t the bearers of bad news. This way they avoid causing panic, since you “heard it from someone else first”.
I love this character . In order to make sure everyone is on the same page he explains everything to everyone by acting clueless and building trust in encouraging people to participate so that in explaining it through those around him and asking questions he makes sure that no one in that room is going to be left in the dust trying to understand it. When he says explain it as you would to a young child , he’s partially joking about himself but it’s not about himself . It’s about bringing everyone up to speed as fast as possible and also making it as simple as possible
The amount of silence is what makes this scene so powerful
I love how the CEO goes from “I don’t know anything” to ‘this is it, I’m sure!’
He knew all along smh
Then the last scene he's like it's just money 😂 he's enjoying private full course meal while millions of Americans lost their pensions, homes, jobs etc.
"I'm dumb and don't understand risk assessment so speak to me like a child"
Also "I hold the highest rank in the company because I am incredible at risk assessment"
And BTW if he's so good at "hearing the music" then why did he need a bunch of grunt workers to figure this out for him?
@@yourenviousenemy Captain makes decisions based on the information given to him by the grunts. Yeah they figured out that there's a problem, but they don't know how to deal with it corectly.
The movie is already half over... the room is full of big-name stars... and Jeremy Irons just strolls in and immediately steals the scene.
Facts
This is one of the most perfect scenes in movie history. It is so well done.
My only nitpick is it's 4AM, and no coffee or eye bags in sight
My favourite part of this whole secne is Carmello right at the end. Just the way Tuld asks him to find Dale in in the next two hours when the rest have failed to fiund him all night, and neither he nor Tuld seem to think its a big deal. It puts me in mind of Marsellus Wallace sending in Winston Wolf.
Investment banks have former NYC detectives and FBI agents in their security teams for a reason. Why Carmelo was in a board meeting is another issue...
Of course he was confident, Carmello can apparently teleport in and out of chairs instantaneously.
That showed me Tuld only hired the very best when it came to those in his inner circle.
It wasn't brains that got he there.
Pulp Fiction was amazing
Amazing scene but gotta admire spacey's character to bluntly speak to his boss like that. Looks like both of them go way back, probably more than anyone at that table.
It could also be Spacey's character realizes that whether Tuld does this or not, it doesnt matter. theyre all fucked
Its hard to believe that this was the director's very first film. Every scenes of this movie are well made, it looks like it was made by an experienced director.
his first film and his last good film, lol
Smartest move.... he waited for the boss to tell him what he wanted him to do. And told the boss what he he knew he already was going to do... wicked smart
Irons is hardly in the film but gives an incredible performance. "As you would a small child... or a Golden Retriever" seems all friendly but he oozes "I will slit the throat of anyone who takes me for a fool", as he then demonstrates by he decision to off load all the toxic assets onto "willing buyers at the fair market rate". The guy has "leadership" written all over him.... calm in a crisis (even if its partly of his own making thanks to his greed), decisive actions, knows what the blow back will be and takes responsibility for it, rewards the right people to get the job done (all the traders who are destroying their careers). Is he a "good person"? Probably not by most people's standards but I'd sure as hell want to be on his side in a crisis because when shit its the fan that's the kind of person you need.
Well I'm pretty sure he was 100% aware of everything that was going on - as was everyone of the senior partners. They all knew but nobody wanted to stop the music, they all wanted to keel the party going. Maybe Eric Dale was fired by Sarah Robertson because he started to look where he should not have - and when Peter Sullivan continued his research (without telling anyone!) and finally told his colleague and boss how dire the situation was, they simply acted like they didn't know anything about it.
This meeting was definitely not to inform them of what was going on, they knew. This was just to tell them that it's over.
photographer85 really covered this, but while I understand what you're saying you can see throughout the film that Tuld knew what was coming the whole time. He practically engineered this. The firm profited massively from its extensively leveraged MBS position, and then he jumped out in front of everyone else to bail out of the situation and destroyed thousands of careers along the way. He's not a leader so much as a profiteer, so while you can admire his capability to get others to do what he wants, you'd have to watch out for the knife in your back the whole time even if you think he's on your side.
I just think the irony at 1:19 where he claims "it wasn't brains, that got me here," but as Scar he asserts that "When it comes to Brains, I got the Lion's share."
in the case of both movies, His character is seeking ways to attain additional power; political power in one, and monetary power in the other.
Basically an employer telling their employee “I never told you because you never asked”
It’s called being a psychopath
Pen Badgley playing the "guy blending trying to blend into the wall during corporate meetings with C-Suite" perfectly
8:30 I love this moment when Tuld shows his first signs of anger and panic. He doesn't care about the market collapse, he doesn't care about his employees losing their jobs and reputation, he doesn't care about millions of people losing every asset they have. The only thing that causes an emotional response from him is the implication that he could be charged with fraud.
I also love that his response to Sam asking "Do you?" is so much different than Jared's. Same exact question after they say they understand and very different responses.
That’s not at all what he is getting upset about lol
Tulda is asking to be spoken in plain English for the benefit of the rest of the room. Not for his own. He is trying to ensure everyone else in the room also understands the problem
Also, to ensure that Sullivan understands the issue at a fundamental level and so should take him seriously. And, of course, for the audience.
As someone else said, it’s for the benefit of the audience to grasp what’s happening. The people in the room would be two steps ahead-as in any profession when you’re competent enough to get to the top.
It's for the audience
I want a whole movie about how Jeremy Irons character knows that John guy when we walks into the room.
And another movie about the other ... "problems" ... that Carmello solves in the course of a regular work week.
He's his coke dealer.
😂
If you're wondering why Jeremy Irons voice keeps you on edge, it's because it's the voice of "Scar".
Ironic, since he states 1:19 that "it wasn't brains, that got me here I assure you," but as Scar he asserts "when it comes to Brains, I got the *Lion's Share."*
Long live the king
seldom do people talk about Carmelo at the end. "get me Eric Dale here by 6:30" -"it's done ". that two word line says a lot more about the kind of power John has at his disposal.
You have to wonder what kind of evil Carmelo is capable of doing or has done in this role. The certitude he exhibits is just overwhelming.
He has no idea if this guy hopped a plane to Hawaii after being fired or got on a cruise and is in the middle of the ocean.... "It's done."
"It's done."
Most unsettling line in any movie I can remember... leaves everything to your imagination.
@@PittsburghAfterDarkYes, most of the time it is empty BS from empty characters.
This is one of the best financial film ever, this scene is a masterpiece and all actors are outstanding
"I understand."
"Do you?"
"DO YOU??"
LOL
I would've loved 5 mins of them going back and forth with: do you?, do YOU? DO YOU? DOOO YOUUU???
The purpose of the meeting was not to enlighten the owner. It was to let everyone else know that his solution is based on his complete understanding of the situation.
Jeremy irons should have been nominated for Best Supporting Actor for this performance
wow shocking he wasn't
When he says what do you have for us and looks over is a dope scene
Is there any computer legend that can cut this clip that it is just Jeremy irons saying " do you This is it.I'm telling you This is it!! "
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Here is a CZcams playlist with the " do you This is it.I'm telling you This is it!! " in a video and another video with only "I'm telling you This is it!".
The best movie about money I ever seen. Outstanding.
Mate... I could feel that tap on the shoulder.
People dont realise that tuld and jarrod already knew this would happen in the future, and knew How to deal with it. They are acting like they dont know so that the rest of the firm will understand why they do what they do. Thats what this is about. Tuld ofc is one of the smartest in the room. Last scene shows you smart he is.
Carmelo is such a pimp
"Its done."
Sam might not hold the second highest position in the company but the dude's fearless, I've noticed only he talks back to the CEO and calls him John, while even Jared (Sam's boss) calls him Mr Tuld.
Yeah, that's called being old and in the firm forever.
It's a strange bur common thing for old hands to be technically outranked by younger hotshots (sometimes you're constantly skipped over for promotion, sometimes you do everything you can to avoid it), but when you've been around that long the hierarchy becomes pretty meaningless to you, in every way except money.
Your age and experience doesn't make you safe, they'll ditch you in a second if they think it'll save them even a single dime, but by that point you've long since stopped caring. You've become fearless, not out of bravery, but because you have nothing left to lose.
Plus you've probably collected enough dirt over the years to bury the entire company if you wanted to, and they know it (which is why they're so desperate to get Eric Dale back in the building - no loose ends), but again you probably just don't care enough to bother.
The fact is that it takes a certain type of person to get to the top of the pyramid, and like the man says it's not brains. The real reason that most of us don't get there is not because we lack the skill, it's because we'd rather sleep with a clear conscience.
@@HomerSlatedAlso a lot of luck. There is plenty of people who have the brains (it does take brains to be in high finance) but it is very hard to even get a job at these firms very selective and a lot of nepotism.
I’ve watched this seeing many times over the years. One of the best.
I love how Mr Irons walks in the room and immediately takes charge.
What a cast, Irons kills it!
I feel like this might be one of the greatest scenes of acting in all of cinema?!
Jeremy Irons and all of the actors in this movie are a master class.
This scene is a masterpiece of acting and storytelling, every deliver by the actors is great, but i specially love the Carmelo character. The fact that you cant even see his face and the certainty in which he assures the CEO that he will complete his task. Its perfect. It shows that CEO'S of this big banks have enforcers that will certainly play rough. You dont get to that position without a fair amount of intimidation, and its not necessarily violence.
While working for a Fortune 500 company I’ve sat in some intense corporate meetings, but nothing like this scene (total collapse of a company/entire industry) this is so spot on. What a classic scene from a group of master actors.
I used to work for a tech firm. Small, but still multi-national. They managed to weasel themselves in bed with a moderately sized tech firm who, in turn, was able to syphon work from a top three tech firm (yes, I was a sub, sub, sub contractor). Things were going well right up to the point where it wasn't. The direct company I worked for started missing pay days. I don't know all the details, but they eventually called up all the 'senior' techs in the company (for which I was one with a whopping two years experience at this point) to let us know things were bad and were getting worse. On the line was the CEO of the small company and about twenty or so techs spread throughout the world. He's giving this heartfelt speech about how much we mean to him and how long he's been running this company. It was touching. He finally told us our two options were to move to where his company was homebased and we could all circle the wagons to find a new contract together, or we'd all be let go -- our time on the contract had ended.
Here's the twist... about two hours before our call, the CEO of the moderately sized company had contacted each site individually, offered (nearly) every tech a job in their company, and in one stroke, backstabbed the smaller company into oblivion.
This must be one of the greatest scenes in modern cinema history...
Such a great movie! It flew under the radar, and is criminally underrated…💪💪❤️❤️👏👏🔥🔥🔥
Stellar acting/amazing cast. My fave scene for two reasons: Zach Quinto plays the innocent nerd beautifully, and Jeremy Irons plays the self-deprecating narcissist perfectly.
This is what owning the stage looks like .
This and opening scene of inglourious basterds might be the best acts ever written in film industry
you are forgetting about spaceballs, the whole movie is a masterpiece
Jeremy Irons ... Kevin Spacey ... what an epic duo
I don't understand a damn thing but even I can till shit has hit the fan. Amazing acting by all involved.
Say what you want about Kevin Spacey … his presence in any scene such as this or House of Cards just captivates you
The two XO's to John Tulds right, have zero input. Jared (Simon Baker) has to be almost directly told what to even suggest. Johns entire spiel up to that point, was just to get Cole to make the suggestion that they sell it all. John already made up his mind that this is what needs to happen before he entered the room. As soon as Jared makes the suggestion, he can then start working on Sam because he is the one that needs to execute this complex, dubious act.
Such a treat to watch this scene. Jeremy Irons nailed it
Reminder : this film is about the 2008 banking crisis, NOT the 2023 banking crisis. There will be a sequel where they change the dates to today soon though!
It’ll be made into a comic book movie
How's that?
It'll be another movie with an Jeremy Irons walking into a boardroom, with Zachary Quinto's character sitting in the Kevin Spacey chair, and Simon Baker as well. Everyone's older and Jeremy Irons goes "well, it happened again...."
@@mattd687 more like “we got um again!”
Locked prices at below e
3%, those ppl are not selling, 7% rates and expensive prices, ppl are not buying, not happening
Brilliant play !!!
The thing I like most about this scene was how despite the fact that it’s four in the morning and their worlds are ending, how relaxed and calm everybody was. That’s professionalism.
Because their worlds aren't ending. They are not the ones who will suffer. Even Demi will get a nice golden parachute when they make her 'fall on her sword'
And everyone was dressed for work.
Jeremiah is exceptional actor
Jeremy Irons should have been nominated for an Oscar. His performance was awesome.
“I am not a cheat” and proceeds to speaking about selling shares to people which holds no value in coming days😂 typical corporate lol
Selling to willing buyers at the current market price. More like selling to suckers.
@@mf5202 people bought their stocks by believing in their words and trust! On that day when Goldman sachs unloaded all their assets in such a way, they had broken that with those people they dealt with but became partners with so many new clients in following years. In the business of money, looks like no one is to be trusted..!
Pigs get fat hogs get slaughtered
Wild to think Commercial real estate is in the same predicament being 40-50% vacant and some banks holding cmbs @ 30-60% asset side of their balance sheet
Great movie
Incredible cast
Fabulous scene.
I need a guy like Carmelo on my team
“I don’t cheat” 😂😂😂
Charisma on another level
And probably a psychopath considering what he does and his charisma.
@@CyrilSneer123 like most of the billionaires aren't... look at mark zukerberg or elon musk...
Jeremy's Iron can't hear any music because there's none being played in this film clip.
Basically I’d rather destroy the economy and my name rather than lose all my/our money.
The economy collapse was inevitable, their concern was that their counterparts will blacklist them for knowingly selling them worthless assets. Its like saving yourself and accept the irreversible backlash afterwards.
Great scene
This movie is so GOOD!
The fear of trying to tell a multibillionaire we are screwed and we're gonna be broke.
Billion not million
The bigwigs ALL knew, and knew for months. Look at the reaction shots. They're keeping quiet and letting Tuld spin the alibi.
“That is spilt milk under the bridge.”
In a scene (and film) chock-full of excellent dialogue, i think that’s my favorite line. Ask me tomorrow, and i may say otherwise. 😉
We all need a carmelo in our life’s.
Can you imagine being such a stud actor that you can walk into a room full of stud actors and start acting like you KNOW you are better actor than all of them put together?
You almost wonder if Mr. Quinto was legitimately nervous at being in a scene with Paul Bettany, Demi Moore, Kevin Spacey (before we all found out about him) and Jeremy Irons?
@Jay-walking.Again. There’s a difference between knowing he’s aboard and actually being on set for him for the first time.
This meeting is to make scapegoats for a problem that was noted and addressed a year before this meeting.
"we are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price" - Me trying to sell my truck with 200k+ miles on Craigslist
CEO : Give me some rope here
Also CEO : This is it!!!
God damnit I love Jeremy Irons
Irons roule the scene. Excellent top noch acting.
20 years later, Peter will be fired in the middle of a mess made by the bank and everyone will wonder where he is when his padawan will investigate the USB key he left him before leaving
Jeremy Irons: Amazing. But I want to see an entire movie about Carmelo at the end.
Excellent movie making
I don't know what they're talking about, but I'm so invested. Now I'll have to go and watch the movie
A Very Powerful scene, in a Great Movie!!!
We all know this is about the crash in 2008, yet never mentioned. Nice work.
I’m sorry. It’s called the man from earth. Brilliant movie. 6 people in a room. Lawrence fish burn is in it. You will go nuts over it. Absolutely brilliant. Plz let me know your thoughts after you watch it.
What’s the music here’s referring to?
Carmelo, get Eric dale for me by 6:30....It's done
Excellent acting and dialogue. The story is a good take on capitalism and speculating and the emptiness of this kind of paper wealth creation that has been killing American prosperity for decades, or at least the broad prosperity we had from post-war to the 70s. This kind of speculation and short-termism builds little of substance, and often hurts, more than helps, the real economy. It's supported by politicians because they profit from it too, without having to be smart or original or creative. These speculators are leeches on the economy and our society. It didn't use to be this way. A lot of what they do used to be impossible or even illegal. Not surprisingly, that was back when we had the strongest, most productive, most innovative, most broadly prosperous economy in US history, in the post-war period.
8:44
my wife's long contemplating to quit her 15 year old job. Today, I send here this.
no turning back.
when the CEO asks a junior associate if he wants to know why he makes the big bucks…that’s a rhetorical question lol
Whos the guy CEO shakes hands with first? He is respectful. Looks like board representative (board has the power to fire CEO).
The bad part of this movie is the sudden switch to ignorance to certainty, it would better having a bit of a character arch
We were first & smarter! ❤
what a brilliant actor. Goddamn!
Well here we are again this was this weekend 08/17/23