Jared Tells Tuld To Sell All Of Their Assets | Margin Call
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- čas přidán 24. 05. 2022
- Jared (Simon Baker) tells John Tuld (Jeremy Irons) to sell all of their assets.
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"...so that we may SURVIVE!"
He sounded just like Scar 😊😊😊
No - they both sound like Jeremy Irons ☺️
No it’s Claus Von Bulow
This is a great example of leadership. Tuld knows the solution, and he knows his right hand man knows the solution, and he gives him the opportunity to step up and call the shot.
He's already assessed that course of action, and wants the confirmation, and how to do it.
There are a number of great scenes in this movie but the boardroom scene is the best.
I rewatch clips from this movie they never get old. The big short as well. The way things are going with banking these two movies are gonna age like the finest wines in history.
Same here. Margin Call is better as a dramatic film, but The Big Short is more informative.
@@stevenkies802 the Ryan Gosling parts always make me laugh
I literally watched this movie this morning and here I am watching clips on CZcams again.
Me too
"By 2 o'clock you're going to be selling at 65 cents on the dollar if you're lucky."
Later that afternoon:
"We're fill or kill at 65."
"It's filled."
One thing I love about this movie is how exceptionally qualified everyone is for their job.
Not in the afternoon... In the morning, and around the time he said it would be 65 cents on the dollar. By lunchtime they were already firing employees and closing all trades.
Honestly one of Jeremy Irons best roles, he nails being both understanding and listening to his employees, shows he does understand what is happening even if he is playing a bit dumb, and when push comes to shove know what needs to be done. Not often you see Kevin Spacey out acted, and this is one of those cases. Irons owns that room.
I'm sure he completely understood the situation before he even walked into the room. Risk management knew something like this would happen, so Tuld knew this might happen. The entire meeting wasn't the boardroom informing Tuld about what happened, it was Tuld selling the solution to the boardroom. He had to talk them into selling everything. This was all a dog and pony show.
@@Shane-un8pe Golden Retriever and a Trojan Horse.
"the same people we've been selling it to for the last two years, and whoever else will buy it."
Love how you can see that the next CEO up in line (Jared) just like Tuld is smart but what really separates them from their associates is that shark like killer instinct
Just imagine Boardrooms across Mercia now: "THIS IS IT, THIS IS IT"...get ready.
Written soooo welll. I love this movie
Jeremy Irons is such a fabulous actor.
"Do you?!"
👇👇👇
One of the best lines ever
I like that phrase to get ahead "be first, be smarter or cheat". Sadly I'm neaither of the 3.
Eric Dale is first.
Peter Sullivan is smarter.
Jared cheats.
As elaborated in another video.
gotta do all three LMAO
He missed "take tax dollers"
Most people succeeded by cheat. Facts. Cheating is not easy though. If everyone thinks you are a cheater, then you can’t cheat
@@rhs5683 Government bail-outs. Let's call in all those favours from Capitol Hil ... Tell them the entire economy is going to crash if they don't...
Jeremy Irons is the finest actor ever. He's the genius with an incredible cast.
Love this movie 💯💯💯💯
Such a good movie
Some where, some time, someone in the boardroom will say "This is it! This is it!" to fulfilling the dream of reenact this great scene. 👿👿
It's going to be an interesting week.
Even as Tuld had to be tough with Sam, he know Sam was the one who could pull it off. And Sam’s expertise shows through. He says that by the end of the day “you’ll be selling at 65 cents on the dollar, if you’re lucky”. One of the last trades of the day is Sam approving trade that will lost almost $200m… at 65 cents on the dollar.
Turn up the volume.
Incredible scene. I have to imagine something very similar went down in reality.
I think this is why Jared likes Tuld. He’s the only person he knows for sure isn’t a yes man.
did you mix up the two?
I'll have to pay LMAO BAHAHAHA
Tuld was right. The reputation damage is only for a week, since the new owners have to sell at a loss too. There are many trades until the market bottoms, which takes months or over a year. By that point, everyone has damaged their reputation and those that didn't lost everything. So there is no relative reputation damage and everything can begin anew in the recovery.
Being first is far better than being second or third, as the reputation damage is the same, but the financial loss is much more. Tuld prevented the loss from being three times greater by being first, which means they survive the bust while others don't.
conversely aren't the dudes that sold first the guys with the best reputation, as they got out quick.
"I don't cheat" he says.
Jeremy is the Jedi Knight 😎 of acting 😅
is that even possible, sam?
John: "Be first, be smarter, or cheat. Now, I dont cheat."
Sam: "But if we sell these securities when WE KNOW they're largely worthless, and pretend that they're worth something. .. that IS cheating. Or close enough."
John: "Fine, so we do cheat. If that's what it takes for the firm to survive this shitstorm... Everyone just follow the letter of the law so we don't get fucked by the SEC"
😅 😅 😅
the miracle of creative destruction............
Knowing what we know now that the government will bailout the big banks, they really didn't have to sell. But in a few days, another bank will be holding a fire sale, unless they are confident of the bailout too.
Lehman Brothers didn't get bailed out. I'm still holding some Lehman Brothers bonds. Can't sell them at any price.
@@SpynCycle57Right, cuz Goldman Sachs was first, just like Tuld is saying they should be.
I don't get it. How can a movie have five superstars at a budget of $3.5 million? Is wiki lying?
A lot of actors will often work on smaller projects for free or much lesser fee if the script is good enough. Hugo Weaving for example has said that he will take on projects like Captain America or Transformers so that he can work on his real passion which is independent character dramas. These films often have little money behind them, but weaving will often work for free because he already has lots of money from some big studio blockbuster
@@narohato1749
Yeah, but five? It's like they all met at a party and said, "you know what, let's make a movie about this Wall Street stuff together!"
John Tuld: I don't cheat...!!!
Sam Rogers: If you do this, you will kill the market for years...and you're selling something that you know has no value.
John Tuld: We are selling to willing buyers at the current fair market price.
John Tuld: (I will cheat) so that we may survive.
It's a bit of a grey area, but I wouldn't call it outright cheating because they're selling to large institutional buyers who should know what they're buying. If they were selling to retail buyers then I'd agree that it crosses the line.
@@VinOptimaxxx mmm not sure...because they know the real value of the assets and they are hidding this information from buyers (retail, small investors, large investors...even their mothers as Sam Rogers said)...I think they absolutely crossed all lines...
Do traders really have 6:30am sales meetings?
I guess we can see how they managed to outrun the housing crash XD. They were all up and ready for it hours in advance.
Wouldn't be surprised...trading day starts 8am Eastern time, because that's where Wall Street is.
@@omegadirective Trading day starts at 9:30 and closes at 4 PM EST
@@adityag485 thanks I stand corrected
Be smarter
Be FIRST
Or cheat
Ironically, the first one always wins more.
lulz dudes killed the market
This is history & they didn't survived.
The people with the money survive
True, John Tuld was based off of Richard Fuld, the last chairman and CEO of Lehman Brothers investment bank.
Tuld saying 'I'm not a cheat' as he's about to do what he is. Psychopath grandiosity.
How dare you question the boss like this. Do you!
2:05 "...and you're selling something that you know has no value." That's incorrect. Their buyers valued the securities.
2:17 "You will never sell anything to any of those people ever again." Also incorrect. People are greedy and self-interested, and they'll come back for more.
just because someone buys, it does not mean it actually has value. that's how scams like these work.
@@busTedOaS there's no such thing as intrinsic value. The buyer makes a value judgement.
@@ragnar.danneskjold yes, and those judgement can turn out to be wrong
@@busTedOaS those assets could be misjudged but in order for it to be wrong in the sense that you seem to mean the securities would have to have intrinsic value, which doesn't exist for anyone or anything
@@ragnar.danneskjold even with a purely subjective definition of "value" it is possible to pay too much or too little for something. it's as simple as that, no need to assume intrinsic value.
Spacey's character is remarkably under-written - a dude that has been doing this for decades has no clue that the first out the exit escapes the fire
Sam knows very well. The problem Sam has is being the initiator of the crisis. Sam isn’t a C suite executive like Tuld, Jared, or Robertson. He doesn’t have to answer to the board or shareholders like they do. He’s a high level manager who values his relationships in sales/trading and doesn’t prioritize like survival of firm versus the greater economy like they do.
I was a Mortgage loan officer.... some loan officers knew NOTHING..... BUT COULD SELL!!!!
He knows well., butnhe has qualms -- moral and practical ones -- about fooling their byers, and, yes, legal or not, it is fooling them, selling something they knew would become worthless in a matter of hours, at best.
As others have pointed out, he knew, but the line to cross to do that was too much for him initially.
He knows. He doesn't want to be the one who strikes the match.
The CEO never did anything so horrible as to require Jeremy Irons in the role. Couldn't Tom Hanks have done this? 🤣
Would not have been as good