Is The 458 Winchester Magnum a 325 yard Yukon Bison Rifle? HD 1080p
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- čas přidán 8. 04. 2023
- 325 or so Yards seems like a good capacity to have for Yukon Bison. Can the 458 Win Mag reach it?
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Next up I'll test the lower expansion speeds of the TSX bullets in 458. - Krátké a kreslené filmy
I'm glad you discovered the 458 Winchester Magnum! I've had various 458's for over 40yrs and have hunted all over the world with it. The only time I had to use factory loads was in Argentina with a beautiful borrowed custom mauser I used to take a Water Buffalo. They had a dozen or so Winchester Super X 500gr RN softpoints for it. I used 3 of them! I've shot 5 caribou in Quebec with my old Browning safari grade using the Barnes 350gr tsx at 2550fps, most shots over 300yds. I've shot woodchucks and whitetails here in upstate New York with a 458. Most recently I shot a Cape Buffalo and a Red Hartebeast in Africa with a 458 using 450gr Barnes tsx bullets! I've only used a 45/70 and a 45/90 for Bison but the 458 would definitely impress a big bull! You can truly hunt anything on earth with a 458 Winchester Magnum!
It's good to hear from some-one with some 458 experience. Yes the 358's and 375's are likley more practical for 300 yard shooting but there is something truly impressive about the big 45!
I remember Jim Shockey using a Nosler 458 Winchester magnum rifle on several hunts. He seem to have pretty good luck with it.
Taken a variety of so-called buffalo but used a .404 Jeffery on a big bull bison worked great. The .458 is a killer and would be outstanding for the largest bull out there if you did your job. It's a killer. From my limited experience in the rut, a bison is a totally different animal and can be both tougher and territorial as well.
It absolutely has way more than enuff energy to do the job. Good shot placement is a must! You obviously are up to the challenge. Beautiful rifle. BTW I have a 458 WinMag in a Ruger Number One.
There should be a Discover channel show about you. You are possible the most legitimate, while low key Alaskan man I've seen on CZcams.
Awwhh shucks!!!!!
I got cold from watching. Nice range!
I'm wondering if the TSX travelling at 1600fps is fast enough to reliably mushroom. Maybe a trophy bonded bear claw or swift a-frame might work better at slower velocities. Each person has their own reasons for carrying a particular rifle/cartridge but for me I don't see the advantage of using a .458 Win Mag to 300+ yards. Sure bison are big animals and require a large thump but I'm not convinced the .458 is better out to distance over a fast .30 to .35 cal. Not to mention the .458's are usually very heavy rifles to carry a foot. I think a .338 Win Mag shooting 225-250gr bonded or copper bullets using a turret style scope would be ideal for bison in those open areas you hunt.
This particular 458 shoots the X bullets like it was built for them. Waiting for woodleigh to start up again as their 400 grain spitzers might hit the sweet spot.
@@north61 Can't argue that! Although it's a shame the .416's aren't chambered in more available rifles. With better SD's using the same bullet weights and less recoil with fatter trajectory it could be the best option if you plan to stick with the big bores.
Good accuracy.
Love my four fitty ate , have a CZ550 Safari Classic in the Lott , fourth Lott , runs Win Mags perfectly well .. I have a huge amount of cast from 385 to 570 grains and a large variety of jacketed bullets .. I know the 458 is a 350 yard moose rifle .. My go to for everything these days .. I grew up on iron sights but my eyes prefer glass . A birthday thing ..
Nice shot on the bison, I think I would have trouble with that shot. Happy Easter
It was my buddy who made it with is 358 Norma a lot closer than I was (250 yards)
No doubt it will work. Big bore single killed hundreds of thousands of them with less powerful cartridges. Of course the same rifle comes in 375, which would add a good bit more range with less recoil. Glad to see you back. That delay after your having Covid was a bit worrisome.
Went out bison hunting a bunch! Lot's of video to edit. My buddy has this rifle in 375 and it's more practical for sure but I know which rifle is more fun!
Very impressive group on the .458 Win Mag- that's really stretching it. I've had luck with the 300gr Barnes TSX FB on Whitetail deer out of the .458. Pushed to about 2700fps gives it about a 225 yard PBR.
She is a thumpah!! ❤
Barns & my experience is 1800+ fps for appreciable expansion. But I never shot .458 TTSX Barnes bullets.
Maybe if the bullet was made for the 458 Socomb. That cant get much more velocity @ muzzle with a 350g.
They have a big hollow point but I will test them. Stay tuned.
I have a custom 458 by OVT Tom Taylor. Sub Moa with 250 gr hornady leverevolution bullets. Good to 400 yd on whitetail.
Nice rifles, I will have to try the 350gr in my 458. I find the model 70 more comfortable than the Whitworth express, I think the Whitworths are about a pound and a half lighter. Take care.
The TSX bullets seem to shoot really well in most Model 70's!
@@north61 cool, I will have to give them a try.
I wish I live there
It is very capable of taking the bison at 325 yards.
I wonder how rhe nosler 300gr BT for the socom would work in the wm for distance.
I'll take a look at it.
How bads the recoil ?
Hope you can achieve your goal for this rifle. Is the recoil significantly more than the .358 Norma?
As bullet weight goes up YES. With the 300 and 350 grain bullets not that much more.
About the same with the lighter 300 bullets, 358 Cal-250 Grns-2700 Fps, 458 Cal-300 Grns-2400 Fps. If you have a 358N don't need anything bigger for whatever in America. But another gun always more fun👍According to some calc. 358 NM recoil 30-35 Lbs/sec and 458 WM 40-45 Lbs/sec. 9 Lbs gun. But felt recoil might be about equal/close because of bullet speed. Heavy 458 about 60 Lbs/sec. Have an old 1917 US Enfield that needs Reboring/Rebarreling and 35 Imp. Wheelen it will be. Could rebarrel to 358 NM and use 300/338 Win mag cases, but Extractor and Magazine would have to be modified. To keep it simple and about 100 Fps slower the 35 Wheelen wins. Anything you shoot with either won't notice 🤣
@@WillyK51 I get 2650 with 275 grainers in my 358 Norma but best accuracy at 2600, I can take 300 grain bullets to 2800 in the 458 but sub Moa at 2670fps.
Wouldn't getting rid of that barrel band improve your accuracy?
Probably not... it's the way you need to attach the front sling in a rifle that kicks this hard and these rifles shoot super well (SUB MOA)with the right loads.
Id like to think a 375 h&h with tsx boolits should shoot flat enough and have enough energy for bison or most anything else. Recoil isn't bad either. My Sako 375 does very well at 300 yds. Idk just thinking.
Almost zero difference between the 358 Norma and the 375...easy to make these mid bores to work for bison to 300+ Yards. It takes a committed rifle looney to do the same with the 458!
@@north61
I should have thought about that part. (Looney) I know the feeling !!
What is the advantage of a 458 over a 338 Lapua?
I have had both..the 338 has high b.c. bullets and velocity that turn it into a premier long range round with amazing long range reach and power. The 458 has remarkable short range punch.... those wide bullets hit super hard on both ends.
If your interested in installing that 458 in a synthetic, I still have one here your welcome to have. It was installed on 458 previously.
Is it a bendy plastic stock or a stiffer synthetic?
@@north61 I believe this one is a mcmillan
I no longer have a need for it. Jim Strelioff had bedded it onto a model 70 458 of mine some years ago. Your welcome to have a look at it. you would likely need a spacer added to the butt as I believe the LOP was 13"
@@jamesblack1460 I'd love to take a look! I really miss Jim!
@@north61 Jim was one of a kind, great guy.
Anytime your downtown, I'll have it at alpine health. you can see if it will work for you
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350gn 458 punishes more than a 500 gn Jeffrey or 450/500 Nitro. It never caught on with PHs for that reason. 1800-2200ftps and heavy brings down a big animal. The 458 just drills a hole and wastes its energy. Too fast and too light. A Mauser long action in 500 Jeffrey with a 500gn Swift A-Frame will put a Cape Buffalo on his knees from a full charge. Better with a double rifle with a second shot sending a solid into the brain just to make sure.
The 350 grain bullets are way easier to shoot than heavier bullets due to reduced recoil and in my experience the faster you can push a bullet the more violently they expand. No need for 500 grain bullets in North America. The 350 TSX offers spectacular performance... not sure about the lower speed level of its expansion but I will find out.
The sell off begins. 458 covers all bases though its a bit porky. No more 30-06. Goodbye 358Norma. Good ridence 9.3x62. See ya later 348winchester. There's a new sheriff in town. Can't wait for the fire sale.
No, but I might take the 458 on a few Bison hunts.