CENSORED: Red Army Rapes the Reich - War Against Humanity 127
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- When the Red Army invades the Eastern German Reich provinces, and occupied Poland, years of war, anti-German agitprop, and the general misery of being a Soviet soldier has whipped them into a frenzy of bloodthirsty revenge. It’s the women of all ethnicities who pay the heaviest price as German and Polish women, even liberated Soviet victims of Nazi terror are subjected to repeated mass rapes day in and day out
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Read this quick! YT censorship is bad, my comments complaining about keep being deleted.
Keep up the good work, even if it's censored. Love you guys!! ❤
I didn't even get a chance to see the uncensored version, it got pulled within hours?
Minutes even @@Shauma_llama
@@Shauma_llamait’s still up on the channel
I am a man in his 70's and a history teacher. I don't need You Tube to censor anything for me.
@@CL-ie5fz how did you find a way to bring lgbtq and black people into this
Unlike some people today, you don't need a trigger warning or safe space.
Good for you. A Man with Principles. Now, in short supply!
@@davidcohen7881 This is nothing about people being sensitive, it's just that advertisers don't like monetising this stuff and youtube will of course listen to whoever gives them money.
@@thescrout9831 unfortunately it has gotten to the point that words like sex and rape are being censored. CZcams has become more censored than the Churches required.
This was a difficult episode to watch, but we can look away or sanitize history.
Excellent work Sparty & team.
Never Forget.
Thank you for watching, never forget.
It's difficult to watch because it's censored. It's very easy to forget what you cant see.
Forget what? @@WorldWarTwo
The barbaric rapes from the Soviets that was talked about in this very video?@@BradfordCarter
history is sanitized, for one they dont tell about the equally numerous bad deeds of the "allied" forces. just as you dont hear about all the civilians blatantly executed in the various places in the middle east where western forces "[vistited". there is a reason why those conflicts lasted so long and still really havent finished. the occupying nato forces created their own enemy. my grandfather lived trough this and the russians we civilized and at the end they were organized forces that were highly disciplined. he was told that he was lucky to be met with the russians before the allied troops. this guy is just pushing the written history, which is a narative that isnt accurate. tens off thousands were prosecuted after the war by the west for things such as "being a baker" or any other supporting profession in society. there were whole towns who systematically had their water supplies poisoned
CZcams's weird need to censor the horror's of real war and history is always an interesting phenomenon.
What advertiser wants their product to preface a 20 minute discussion of genocide?
Half of the goofier CZcams ads I seem to get are for goofy weirdo fringe political garbage, so maybe you're right, they probably wouldn't like that... @@dreamcrusher112
So in other words. What advetiser does not want real history to be shown?@@dreamcrusher112
Ones who care about preserving history
@@hongo3870 pretty sure as good capitalists, youtube would allow any advertiser willing to spend money the ability to do so.
Quite sad that there needs a censored version of history right now.
We can’t give a full picture of historical events! Think of our advertisers!
There always has been...
It always has been
It's also ironic to give a thumbs up click to a report on institutionalized rape and murder, but here we are.
Capitalism init
Any officer that allows enlisted men such behavior is despicable.
By our morality yes, but others have different morality. Maybe they read the bible, where god celebrates mass killings in disgusting fashion...
@@cragjones1799 yeah, the bible's morality gets Real twisted if you go lookingfor the bad stuff. abraham, the titular daddy of abrahamic religions, had a habit of pimping his wife according to the bible, and it's presented as basically smart political scheming with which god at least has no problem. in a different bizarre story, lot's proposed and greatly divinely appreciated solution to a mob of the people of sodom intending to r°p° an angel that's come to his house as a guest is to offer his two virgin daughters to r°p°. it doesn't end up happening, but from that point onward, god assesses lot to be one of the coolest dudes ever.
Davidfosca... As a former Officer in the US Army 505th PIR 82nd Airborne Division), I whole hearyedly agree with You. I sincerely appreciate and Thank You for Your very knowledgeable Comment.
@@georgewilkie3580 You're welcome
Thank you for service.@@georgewilkie3580
It's sad we live in a world where the public's access to history is controlled by private marketing companies.
Stop blaming ‘the system’ and read a book, FFS. This is why you should get off CZcams and read. This is one of the best CZcams channels but it is necessarily incomplete.
@@thethirdman225 I am commenting about the public's perception of history. Me reading a book will have no effect on that.
@@Nn-3You’re blaming private marketing companies for the quality of information. CZcams is every bit as controlled as any other entity. It should not be a barrier to you doing your own research. The fact that others won’t is a lame excuse.
@@thethirdman225 still, It would be better to have uncensored, mature and more open version of this type of content.
@@franciscoferreira9999 Not necessarily. Pretty much anyone who has read anything about this knows what happened. Not that many people here read books, mind you… The specific, gory details of rapes and murders don’t help anyone’s understanding so I see no need for it. Most people have a very, very poor understanding of the war in the east, particularly because after the war, the only information we had any access to was German because the Soviet Union was effectively a closed society. That means we heard about all the savagery of the Red Army and nothing about what the Nazis did in the USSR. A lot of that has since been rectified but the real lesson is not who did what to whom or whose politics were worse but the depths of depravity humans will plumb in wartime, when the shackles are off.
Nothing justifies one crime with another. Never forget Nazi crimes and never forget Soviet crimes.
Or Russian ones right now in Ukraine :-(
Never forget western allies crimes in Germany too! Crime is crime. Rape is rape. Everywhere it hurts the same.
Russians, eh ? Doncha just love 'em ? Such an asset to Western Europe.
But it's easy to see how Soviet efforts to rouse their troops with reports of Nazi crimes led those soldiers feeling justified in committing their crimes.
Or the crimes of the Western allies
As a survivor of sexual assault this episode hit me hard. I just want to say thank you Sparty for telling these historical accounts with such intention and dignity. Never forget ❤
Many more women have been raped by US soldiers in Europe, even now in Poland. After the war, the German Nazis were again installed in positions in West Germany and they propagated Soviet atrocities in order to wash themselves and cultivate hatred in the West.
My ancestors always praised the courage and good heart of the Soviet soldiers, but those who collaborated spread lies, which were raised by the West to create fear of communism.
I send you my most deepest condolences that you had to live through that horrific experience...
May God grant you a prosperous life.
"In war, there are no winners, only survivors and victims." I don't know who said it... but I think it's true. Thank you again for posting these, lest we forget. Sparty for President.
“Survivors and victims.”
Aye….and perpetrators.
@@garcalej Well Germans were the perpetrators first, so everything their women suffered was their own Karma hitting back on them.
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cnthat’s a big aggressive to want people who did not directly participate in the war to suddenly be victims of these experiences. Very grotesque and immature narrow minded view you have there.
@@CorgiButter69 Do you have any fucking shit to say about the children and women murdered by the United States of America in Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
@@CorgiButter69 Some scumbag deleted my response to the trash you replied to me, let me try again in a different way: The hell the Japanese kids and women and old people who lived in Hiroshima and Nagasaki did to the United States of America and it's people?
The mother of a friend was 14 when she and her family tried to escape East Prussia in early 1945, they were just about to board a ship when the captain told the crew to pull in the boarding ramps as the ship was way overloaded. The ship was the Wilhelm Gustloff. She got out on another boat to the west and went to work in the UK in the late 1940's.
Boy she dodged a historical bullet there.
@@Nick_B_Bad The fun fact was another work mate, who actually worked with me and the guy above was also the son of a woman who had managed to get out of East Prussia in 1945 and moved to the UK. His dad had been a bomb aimer in Bomber Command.
@@richardvernon317- There may be a movie about that ill-fated ship, on a certain platform which rhymes with shoe-lube.
The Berlin monument to the Red Army is called by locals as the Tomb of the Unknown Rapist
Stalin is the "Pimp of rapist"
@user-et4hp9sw3n classic anti-soviet propaganda)
so Nazis, raped and killed much more people in USSR, but you are more mad about Soviets ? interesting
Got to love how Gauleiters tell people to stay but they are among the first people to leave themselves.
It didn't save them. Of the five Gauleiters in this episode, all of them died violently or ignominiously.
Fritz Bracht committed suicide in May 1945. Albert Forster was captured and executed in Poland in 1952. Arthur Greiser was executed in Poland in 1946. Karl Hanke was captured by Czech partisans and was executed by them after a botched escape attempt (they beat him and two other POWs to death with their rifle butts). Erich Koch died in a Polish prison in 1986.
Dishonorable nazis? Le gasp
@@AlwaysPossible100
Reminds me of the Orange Fuhrer and MAGA.
The censorship by CZcams is disgusting. You Tube is opposing the truth about war. WTF war is not a boy scouts game of dress up
The censorship by YOU TUBE enables the hamas unrwa palestin genocidal nazis to get away with perpertrating the same crimes against Israeli women. You tube what the f...
This was one of the hardest videos to watch …. but may we never forget.
Even though it was difficult, thank you for watching.
Some countries forgot, Including the "world leaders".
So does CZcams automatically reject any “War Against Humanity” video now? There must be a subscript to say “new video, flag for content” on their end.
Not always, it's pretty mixed on whether they'll be limited/age restricted. However, this one was age restricted instantly.
@@WorldWarTwo probably the keyword Rape
I don't know what's their problem. I'm a SA victim, and I'm watching it to not forget these atrocities. Why can't they?
@@deshaun9473 Because depictions and descrptions of genocide are not appropriate for young children or advertisers. You would not see this discussed until age 14 at most schools, and the imagery is not shown much at all anymore. If CZcams were more consistent it would be fair.
@@dreamcrusher112 I understand. Thanks for your reply.
Never forget, CZcams instantly age restricted an educational history video!
And there are schools in Sweden making excursions to Auschwitz with 9th graders (15-16 yo). And what is "odd" is that unruly kids for unruly 'hoods' are so affected by what they see that they do change and become great and decent kids, dropping their bad behaviour.
Thank you for this, 100% respectful and how to approach this topic. We must never forget...
Shame on you YT for requiring “censorship” of the historical photographic documentation of these atrocities. I can recall when I was in 7th and 8th grade viewing the uncensored photos and movies in the school library. It was a public school.
I begrudge the YT censorship, I'm old enough to remember images used in my school lessons which would be censored by YT. But, they do have a difficult tightrope to walk. At what point does education become titillation? When does the viewer become the voyeur? Then there's the possibility of being sued by some 'snowflake's' parent, for inflicting 'emotional trauma'. I don't envy YT the task of tiptoeing through that minefield. And as you say, lifting restraints can lead to abuses,@@AlwaysPossible100
*_they're trying to do the same thing in real time with the idf atrocities being carried out in Palestine right now!!!_*
My dad and two brothers were at Normandy he survived. They got there heads Shit off. By 50mm bullets. He gave me a Luger pistol.. told me how he got it... Scary...
@@sidDkid87 Precisely. You do realize who was in control of the Soviet Union? Small hats.
The USSR never faced any punishment for what happened to Poland not the atrocities mentioned here.
Don't worry the us and brits got off easy too. Hell the us to this day claims dropping 2 atomic bombs in defenceless city centers was the right thing to do and idiots believe it.
What is the USSR's fault in relation to Poland?
@@Wrh40k watch the vids on this channel or google it retard
@@Wrh40k Do you not realize the Soviets occupied Poland during and after the war?
@@johnteixeira6405 Another distortion of history, I advise you to teach history through literature, not bloggers and documentaries.
In 1919, while there was a civil war in Russia, Poland attacked the Russians and occupied the western territories to the cities of Minsk and Kyiv. The Soviet-Polish War ended in 1921 under British pressure; the Communists signed a peace agreement, agreeing to the loss of part of the territory.
In 1939, the USSR took these territories back after the Polish army was defeated by the Wehrmacht and the Polish government fled abroad.
Later, Churchill himself recognized the USSR’s right to return these territories.
After 1945, Poland took over the western territories of Nazi Germany and was the center of the Warsaw Pact camp, created as a counterweight to the NATO bloc. I don’t understand what kind of occupation we are talking about here!?
This was a tough one, Spartacus. But any adult student of military history should stare it in the face and see what a terrible failure of humanity is war.
"stare it in the face' that hits hard. But my unease in doing so is nothing compared to the experiences of these victims. When can we do better - or will this always just be the human condition at its worst?
Apparently the Westwall is now considered a great place to find rare plants and animals. So it was useful for something.
Well I thought I could get through this one in one go but Gabi was where I broke down. We the inheritors of this peace owe it to them to hear their story. Come and See is required viewing as well.
Truly bone chilling documentary.
Thanks for compiling these stories and recording the details - hoping we can all better ourselves.
The alternative is dark indeed
Spartacus' description left me with no words. So horrible. So sad.
This episode reminded me of reading A Woman in Berlin in grad school, which still haunts my dreams.
Excellent job as usual, Spartacus. You're coverage of difficult topics with compassion and care is a class act.
I remember I once watched a long interview with Russian veteran about these crimes (in Russian). The horror of non-stop rape and sometimes murder was especially brutal in East Prussia and solders participation in these crimes was the rule, not the exception. Meaning 90 percent of troops were involved. He also said - in the middle of May Soviet authorities stopped that mass rape in one day - just shooting several solders who committed the crime in front of others.
Its was not about revenge - its about humanity and crowd when its unchecked... and about cynical leaders using that for their purposes
I know the interview you're referring to. A very old veteran was telling what he saw, terrible... It haunted him since then. You can find that interview here on CZcams
Yeah Russians bad Germans good, oh boy!
My ancestors always praised the courage and good heart of the Soviet soldiers, but those who collaborated spread lies, which were raised by the West to create fear of communism. Besides, someone always spreads lies for money. Various propagandists wanted to buy a lot of people to strengthen their narrative. Mass rapes were also impossible, because millions of Germans fled from these territories before the Soviets came and settled Poles in these areas. In contrast, US soldiers caused many more rapes in France, because there were many more of them and they were also among civilians because the French did not run away from them.
@@AngelGonzalez-pd4cn I mean, it's the truth. Correct. Cope, degenerate.
@@ducomaritiem7160 Is it the one where one Russian soldier tries to hide two girls, they get discovered, raped to death, and fed to pigs?
Read the book, "A Women in Berlin" which is a chilling first hand account of what it was like just before and just after the Red army captured the city. A tough read but, it will give you an insight on what what one German women endured for 8 weeks in spring of 1945 Berlin.
It was called "The Hellstorm".
I knew this was gonna get reuploaded. I didn't get to finish it during my 30 minute lunch break
A lot of humanity died on the Eastern Front.
Because of who?, last time I checked and I have checked all my adult life it was all because the fucking Germans, the Germans started all that shit.
And it goes on still.
War Against Humanity is such a fitting title for what Spartacus and the rest of the teams does.
The title doesn’t refer to the war crimes committed by the Nazis, Red Army or any belligerent of the Second World War, but Spartacus and the team’s war to restore the humanity of the victims of WW2. You are winning this war. The victims are no longer statistics, they are human once again.
Thank you for your hard work on this series. WAH always drives the dagger in to remind us of what humans are capable of doing to each other.
One of your best, yet saddest, episodes.
CZcams censored it faster that i finished watching the uncensored one completely. F.. 😂😂
The Soviet army's use of rape and murder as generalized terror weapons started inside the Soviet Union where villages and towns that were judged to be too welcoming or accommodating to German occupiers were targeted. This was almost certainly a top level Soviet government policy.
communism is when government promotes rape
Rape is still extensively used by the russian state in prisons to break and control the prison population. Look it up.
This is Russia's current policy. Just look at what Putin's gang have been doing in Ukraine.
It is the same policy by Putin.
no it isnt
Tack för att ni påminner oss om saker man inte får glömma.
Disturbing... Hearing those stories is not easy, but it is something that we need to keep reminding ourselves.
Excellent discussion of important history. Thank you.
RS. Canada
Thank you for covering this!! As a victim of rape, im glad this aspect of WW2 is being discussed, even if it's censored. Keep the good work!! Love you guys!!
„A Woman in Berlin” by Marta Hillers is a must read on topic.
Commented on the uncensored one. You do great work Mr Spartakus. Never forget. Also I can't believe we need a more thourough word than "decimate". How do you say " kill half of them"
@konst80hum "Semicide"?
War Against Humanity
*Opens up envelope*
"CZcams's policy on whats allowed."
Its a shame that You Tube can't handle an accurate concise account of history.
You are amazing sir, highly informative with an ability to narrate history perfectly. Subscribed.
Thanks for your support!
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Such a hard episode to watch but totally is what is needed to fully understand the war and what can happen if humanity fails again.
If you wanna see what hell on Earth looks like that is just what WW2 Eastern Front is.
I will never understand how people can be so low enough to commit these awful atrocities without even feeling the slightest bit of guilt or regret.
I suppose many felt guilt after they went back to civilian life.
Well when the enemy you are fighting deliberately tried to wipe your nation off the face of earth with unprecedented cruelty of deliberate starvation, rape, mass killing, death camps, looting,…yeah you MIGHT be a bit angry. And this is not concerning that Germany had already fought the Russians in a war less than 30 years prior.
Yes. And? None of these excuse crimes against humanity or justify them. If anything they demonstrate the persons engaging in the reprisals have chosen to ignore humanity in favor of revenge, and that's never a good thing.
-TimeGhost Ambassador
@@huiyinghong3073 wholly the fault of the Nazi Reich, actually - had they not started their war of extermination, there would be no war of extermination for the West to stay out of, and no war of extermination for the Soviets to retaliate against.
@@huiyinghong3073 I do hope you are not blaiming the West ... Remember that the nazists attacked Soviet Union on June 22, 1941 and USA was drawn into the war in Dec 7, 1941.
The French and the Brits were already drawn into the war on May 10, 1940.
As Sparty explains, the nazis had no intention to spare the slavic people, nor leave Soviet Union out of the war.
One of your best episodes.
So far, of the censored photos I've recognised here, I saw in my high school history textbooks and those of my regular reading.
The nuns at my convent school never tried to block reality from us.
Man I was so not looking forward to this. Hate it but can't look away.
That was both disturbing and heartbreaking to watch. Human history is a dark and unending feedback loop of war and conquest.
No matter how much goodwill or kindness we might possess we can't escape it. It's a juggernaut.
Sparta Olson artistic narration is fantastic compared to a professional story teller i can tell because im an amateur author too became by myself
Excellent presentation, brother.
This persistent censorship has always been a bone of contention with me. However, the poignant and vehement narratives delivered by Spartacus do, to a greater extent, compensate for this. Well done TimeGhost.
In 1945, in the eyes of the Soviets, it was time for the Germans to pay. - Max Hastings, "Armageddon: The Battle for Germany, 1944-45"
(quoted from memory, as I no longer have this volume.)
Wow. Just wow. Especially that speech of yours at the end. 😢
Powerful, sad, and terrifying presentation. Thank you. I highly recommend the German WWII memoir (and 2008 film) "A Woman in Berlin" to everyone.
Is the uncensored versions still monetized or is it just age restricted? And is it like that for all of the uncensored/censored, or just some? I’d watch the uncensored version because that shows the true horrors that happened, but would rather my view help y’all at the same time
Most get age-restricted, as far as I can tell. They have a website with all their videos. If you Google for Time Ghost, you should find it.
It's made private, you can't find it through regular means. You had to have that video's URL to access it...
@@theotherohlourdespadua1131 I can still see it if I go to their channel and look at their recent videos, so it’s not private
An estimate of how many German women were raped during the Soviet advance is 2.4 million.
And not just once - but repeatedly.
It is estimated that one hundred thousand German women were killed because of the abuses, it is also calculated that an equally large number took their own lives, in shame and disgrace.
That the rape orgies continued until September!!! -1945, is rarely mentioned, but that's how it was.
Four months after the capitulation.
I often think about the results of these rapes.
If one - cautiously estimated - assumes that 10% of the abuses led to pregnancy, pregnancy -
what happened to these children?
Stories of mothers - raped and terrorized - rejected by their families are shocking enough.
Assuming that every tenth woman (of childbearing age) who was raped gave birth to a child.
Then we are talking about at least 200 thousand children.
NO ONE has written the history of these.
The fate of mother, the fate of children.
And there has NEVER been an apology from the Russian side.
That speaks for itself.
I recall reading that the women often aborted these rape-children. This partly related to racism, not just expediency.
Wow. Powerful analysis so disturbing but would be a fascinating story to research and shed light on the humanity of the experience
Is this Anthony Beavors' estimate?
@@waverider8549
Thanks for the question - I should have answered you earlier, but I'm having a bit of trouble finding the exact sources I've used.
It is very possible that A Beevor has presented these figures (I have read most of his books about WWII) - but the sources I have used are from German biographies and histographies.
Which AB may very well have used as sources for HIS estimates.
Among other things, I have been very concerned with the fates of the "German children - i.o.w. children of german soldiers in occupied countries)".
And their mothers. In Norway we called them "Tyskertøser".
The history about "Lebensborn", f.ex.
And the children they gave birth to - innocent as seeds - were nonetheless condemned from birth (not to say "conception") to a life of bullying.
And it is through this type of literature that I have observed these (approximate!) numbers.
Which are probably far too low.
Since I live in Berlin, I've also met two women that were subjected to these insane abuses - the mass rapes.
One of them is still alive, Johanna, born in 1927.
I don't know your intention as to why you ask me where I got my "statistics" from.
It must be the same.
I can name many books and authors who have written about this, - -
and I can also directly summarize here how many Russian/Soviet officials have apologized:
Here it comes -
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Truly important and strong episode. History repeats itself, again and again.
I very much enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
It wasn't just German women, it was throughout eastern Europe and even in their own country. The account of Nina Markovna of events that transpired in the Ukrainian city of Feodosia in December 1941 when the Red Army "liberated" it is revolting to the core.
Merci beaucoup pour cette video qui présente la guerre telle qu'elle a ete.
Enjoying the detailed rundown, and I thought "That's quite the 'stache there, guy." So, I looked down in the description for the host's name, and sure enough, the name is as ... distinctive ... as the 'stache. I guess he had no choice but to grow the 'stache. 🤣
There used to be lots of ww2 footage on CZcams but sadly it's mostly all gone now.
Germany has learned from two World Wars but Russia has not. 😢
I've put that comment here more than once. "You reap what you sow". It's all well and good saying it lookin back, as we do on history. Especially too do with the world wars. Yet watching series such as this really does help with putting those feelings and thoughts to bed. Most of us watching and learning here , have never lived through anything even close to these catastrophic events. To do so makes us realise that the truly dark thing is war itself and human nature. It helps to feel empathy and compassion for those that did and have live through such things and that in regards to history especially, there always ways two sides to the coin. We in the west are taught a certain narrative about these things and it's done for a reason.
It's been a hard road watching this series, as I can imagine it has been making it. !
Thank you ww2 team . This body of work will be seen for many years to come and rightly so. 👍💛👊
"You reap what you sow" but too often it is those who actually ordered the planting of those seeds, cultivated it, and allowed it to fester and propagate that do not incur the repercussions, instead making sure they've stacked thousands and millions of others between them and any form of judgement.
Excellent episode! (although I'm disgusted that CZcams censored it)
if youtube's "community standards" had been in place
in the press an newsreels of 1944-45 and on, one has to wonder
how much we would know of the horrors perpetrated in this war.
never forget.
never again.
The press back then rarely showed uncensored photos of crimes or even combat
There was an incident during a battle in the pacific which showed dead Japanese and Americans after a beach was cleared and there was mass outrage for such graphic material being shown
The press never showed this stuff and the modern concept of “show the corpses and brutality uncut” is ghoulish and uncalled for
@@HobbiesGamesChillin that picture was from the Battle of Tarawa.
it was censored because it showed US dead.
there was no issue with showing Japanese or German dead.
frankly, I will take the "corpses and brutality" over "Dulce et decorum est pro patria mori"
glossing over of the horrors that war inflicts on humans.
@@kidmohair8151 its not glossing over and it wasnt just the US dead it was dead bodies and combat footage
US press was heavily censored and it never showed these things up to that point
you dont need to show a woman being assaulted or her corpse sprawled on the concrete to get the horror of war
the obsession with seeing it appears to be more a fetish then a desire to drive home the horror my friend
superb job Sparty
The host of this documentary is intense and a great story teller.
Great moral story too.
“Landmark” UK history series “World at War” from the 70s, in the episode covering the final stages of the war in the east, goes out of its way to say that this didn’t happen. Once I’d grown up and read a history book or two, it ,always struck me as odd that they would do this.
This topic, and what was done in Nanking before this time period, needs to be highlighted and discussed. Yes, reasonable people can discuss at what age this would be appropriate, (for me it would be age 16 based on the fact that in many cultures, 16 is considered to be an adult but you can look that up for yourself), and I personally vigorously oppose censorship, but nevertheless, it needs to be discussed. If not, the words Never Forget, becomes a meaningless slogan.
Warfare has always been a horrific, bloody business, particularly for the unarmed masses. They pay the price as do the soldiers who fight.
What was the line from the movie Fury? Now you get to see what one man can do to another? (I know I messed it up but if you've seen it, you'll understand what I'm saying).
What Spartacus is discussing here is part of that horror. Glossing over it reduces the experience of the shattered victims to an inconsequential footnote.
@@fortpark-wd9sx Your points are valid however, I still think Nanking needs to be discussed, perhaps within the context you mentioned.
Japan was quickly rebuilt to serve as a bulwark against the emerging Soviet threat in the pacific. We stationed ships and other military assets there, which proved useful during the Korean conflict.
I agree with you about Westerners fascination with Bushido and other aspects of Japanese life. The '70s TV miniseries Shogun immediately jumps to mind. Their products were heavily marketed here in the states. History is replete with examples.
Yes, it is an unfortunate fact that other Far East cultures were looked upon as 2nd class, but that a subject for another day.
In the 90s, I read article after article about certain people trying to rewrite history, culminating in a major controversy centered around a proposed exhibit of the Enola Gay in the Smithsonian.
@@fortpark-wd9sx There's no question that Japan was placed in a position of prominence in the minds of westerners, for good or bad.
As for history, I would say with certainty that Japan never had to endure colonization as China, what became known as French-Indochina, Hong Kong, and other countries did, which no doubt contributed to certain long-held western viewpoints. It was not until President Nixon went to China that we began scratching the surface of understanding modern China and its growing disparity, even in the fundamental definition of communism, between them and the Soviet Union.
I wonder if you got an episode about millions of Soviet woman who were raped by the Germans and their allies?
Instead of wonder, one could just simply browse the "war against humanity" series to find plenty of videos covering f.e. the rape and sexual violence in the Soviet Union comitted by Germans or "Japan's Institutionalization of Rape".
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I heard that 5 Millions Soviet women were rape by German and other AXIS Troops as 2 Millions German women were by Soviet and other Allies forces
Too often, we tend to think of wars as consisting only of battles between armies. Sadly, this has never been true.
It makes me genuinely enraged to listen the catastrophe unfolding while Mr Mustache sits out saying 'they didn't fight bravely enough'. God, give me a break.
Also got to remember that the Russians weren't the only one's. The allies did it to but it is covered up for the most part. At least he did point out that the germans did the same thing to Russian women. It is so sad that this happens in war to the women and girl's by both sides in a war. It was a good video though. Even pointing out after 8 weeks Starlin stopped it by having the men shot infront of the women they had been abusing. God bless all those who didn't stand a chance in war all the innocent and the old people. Bless them all
Does Time Ghost have a place to post uncensored videos?
They're still on the channel, for the most part. They're just shadow-banned, not actually taken down.
This is more effective than you might think. Recently found out my father had been watching from early on but youtube stopped telling him about the new videos and he thought Covid killed the channel. It took a four minute conversation to convince them that yes, the guy who starts with the funny skits on the phone is still doing week by week WWII.
They have a website where you can find all the (uncensored) videos. I think if you Google for Time Ghost, you will find it.
The video is still here. If you got the URL for it, you can still access it. I managed to access the original Battle of Manila video of theirs with that URL...
Thanks for another important episode. I deeply admire the consequence with which you insist on the value of every single human life, independent of nation, race or whatsoever. Attacking, raping or murdering civilians is a war crime, independent of who commits it against whom. Thank you so much, Sparty & team.
Totally off topic...I've noticed the change in the "boom" in the intro for WAH episodes and it's giving me chills thinking about what we are inevitably going to get with that. The way the savagery escalates every year, on all sides of the lines, is already so brutal, but I know what ended the Pacific campaign and every intro that pops in my head.
Im from Northern US, it gets -30 here sometimes. Last year it got down to -50, -30 without the wind, but we had 50 mph wind gusts as well. I dont know how a man can fight in such weather ? Especially when the Germans didnt even have winter clothing. It would be absolutely 💯 brutal, total hell !!!! I served as a Infantryman so I can relate to the life of a front line soldier. Its a hard life even when you have food, ammo, and proper clothing and shelter. But without these things it would be absolute torture!!!
WW2 never ceases to amaze me at how many different horrific ways people have conjured up to cause suffering in others.
Thank you, Sparty
I keep reading about how terrifying the Naval bombardment was. The sreaming of the shells soaring overhead the earth shaking apart and the concussion of impact that must been hell on earth?
Excellent but an upsetting documentary. Never forget 🤔
This is all certainly such terrible war crimes. From a completely military perspective it is counterproductive for soldiers to do all of that. Every moment of the day that they're doing that is a time they could have spent fighting the enemy. It has no militaristic justification .
You reap what you sow as an explanation for a bitter harvest but not a justification of that result does not explain in any military sensible terms this barbarity. Even by the standards and morals of the 1940s. It is on par with what Japan and its soldiers were doing in Asia consistently and continuously.
This was hard to listen to, I don't want to imagine living through it, or perhaps rather, living until it...
"Had the west stay out of the war" someone did forget about WW1 and its effects? @@huiyinghong3073
the fact you have to edit out history so youtube can sell ad's makes me even more dedicated to adblockers
Joining us on Patreon is a great way to offset that lost ad revenue too!
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Damn you Indy, now no matter what topic it is, i keep noticing the weird lakes on the map
I'd never noticed them till the beginning of Saturday's episode. Now I can't stop.
The Aral should be there!
I've been reading about WWII and European totalitarianism for 30 years. I'd never heard nor realized the (obvious) fact that as the war turned against Germany, the 'regular' Germans turned increasingly to 'National-Socialism' and the Hi*ler cult as it became increasingly clear that Germany would not only lose, but that the retribution upon them would be swift, severe, and deserved.
Not only does that phenomenon make sense when compared to the alternatives of Soviet conquest, but also helps to explain the final military and genocidal gasps of the 'National-Socialists' system being so organized and effective - despite the obvious fate awaiting the German nation and people precisely for unleashing such paroxysms of violence across Europe and the Mediterranean to begin with.
How can innocent women being raped en masse ever, ever be deserved? That is one fucked up thing you just said
Fantastic job. Scary as hell, and overall disgusting topic, but at the same time important.
Sins of the father. That’s why we should do the best we can to better the situation around us.
*The claim falsely made in this video that the Gauleiters prevented civilians from moving west to safety from the Red Army is propaganda. In fact, during World War II, as the Soviet Union's Red Army advanced into Eastern Germany, many German civilians, especially those from areas like East Prussia, tried to flee to the western parts of Germany to escape the advancing Soviet forces. This mass exodus of German civilians is often referred to as the "Eastward Expansion" or "Evacuation" and resulted in a significant displacement of people as the war came to an end. It is well documented by historians.*
It surprises me how so many people don't know about this, I guess it goes against the 'We are the allies and we are right' narrative. On a more important note love the mustache.
As von Manstein says several times in his memoirs ' What did they expect ? '
I heard that toilets and light bulbs were sent home to Russia thinking that they would still work!
I think this is exaggeration. However my Grandmother told me that a lot of fancy looted German nightdresses/peignoirs were mistaken for the day dresses by the Soviet girls.
My father and I discussed the brutality of the Soviets. He remarked that the front line Soviets were too busy fighting and trying to survive that they had neither time or energy to do such things. The waves of Soviets that followed them went on a wanton rampage, etc.
Thanks for covering these atrocities. It was the weak who pay such a heavy price at the hands of the victors.
Thank you for accurately calling the Red Army "the Soviets" - it is excruciating to watch people calling them "the Russians," and doubly so on THIS issue, given that the vast majority of Red Army troops in Germany in 45 were NOT Russian, but rather, Ukrainian, Belorussian and Polish.
I’ve heard the exact same thing about the Japanese soldiers in Nanking.
Well, the Soviet people paid much higher price at the hands of the Nazi and their collaborators - and they weren't even the victors. Btw. this is obviously ordered, selective and biased history "lesson".
@@59vlada so what's your excuse for them doing exactly the same thing in northern China and Korea to the locals there?
@@bobs_toys Who is "them"?
This is what war can become. It is important to remember that peace can happen. We do need to respect all people of all groups of people.
My Grandmother was in Eastern Germany in the war and lived near a concentration camp. She was raped by Soviet soldiers when she was just 9 years old. After the war she was disowned due to her PTSD. She married an abusive British army chef and then later married my British Grandfather who was in the Paras.
While German, she was too a victim of the War, but most of all a victim of the Soviet Union's weaponised rape.
Bless her soul. Is your Grandmother still with us?
@@squint04 Unfortunetly not. She died near 10 years ago. Thank you for your thoughts though.
That must have been extremely difficult for her, I hope she found peace.
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@@WorldWarTwo Look my friend, If the Germans had never done what they did, none of that would have happened to the grandmother of this person and the other thousands or millions of German women, German women all German people should blamed their own fellows German men and many German women for all the suffering they suffered at the hands of the victors, the victors suffered more at the hands of the Germans.
My ancestors always praised the courage and good heart of the Soviet soldiers, but those who collaborated spread lies, which were raised by the West to create fear of communism. Mass rapes were also impossible, because millions of Germans fled from these territories before the Soviets came and settled Poles in these areas. In contrast, US soldiers caused many more rapes in France, because there were many more of them and they were also among civilians because the French did not run away from them. Surely no one told you that the Germans stole a lot of small children and reeducated them as Germans, in addition, they brought millions of women as slaves and did various atrocities with them, so they started spreading lies against the Soviets in their defense. As now, the Western media find someone who criticizes the Russians, so that he could stay in the rich West with a rich payment for the interview.