Soviets Hunt Down the Heroes of Humanity - War Against Humanity 128
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- The Red Army taking Budapest launches a huge wave of crime by the soldiers and the Soviet state - the most famous crime will be when Moscow disappears Raoul Wallenberg. But he is not the only neutral country diplomat who has worked to save Budapest’s Jews threatened by the Soviets.
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The Red Army taking Budapest ignites a surge of criminal activities, both by the state and the soldiers. Among these, is the disappearance of Raoul Wallenberg. Yet, Wallenberg was not alone.
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I remember visiting Budapest many years ago. Although I can barely remember my visit, I can still remember the beauty of the city. It is hard to imagine the massiv effort the Hungarians put in to rebuild this wonderfull City.
I really hope to revisit the city some day and visit some of the sites of the battle.
Excellent work!!
Hi!! I made an error in an earlier comment I made where I referred to the Soviet takeover of Hungary in 1945 as "tragic." When I was writing it, I had in mind the Soviet invasion of Hungary in 1956, not the Soviet entry in 1945. I accidentally conflated the two; I wasn't seeking to bemoan the Soviet defeat of the Hungarian Fascist government. My mistake!! 😊
@thanos_6.0 wonder why you couldn't remember :D we love drunk tourists here
@@Alex-hu5eg I couldn't remember because I was just a little child :D
Raoul Wallenberg is one of the few people made an honorary citizen of the US. He's a University of Michigan alum, and at my graduation over a decade ago the school president told about his efforts during the war. If ever there was a truly "good" person, it's him.
Oh, good - we have one of putin's boy-toys with us .....@@alexeyzayko3464
There's a street named after him in Washington, DC.
@@Custerd1 I know! It's where the Holocaust Museum is, and my friend from college (UofM, which is fitting) works there.
And of course Wallenberg is honored as "Righteous Among the Nations" at Yad Vashem.
Still over 35 years after I first learned about Swedish Raoul, a true hero to me.
@@williestyle35 Perhaps the Wallenberg issue being put aside during the Cold War by the Western establishment had something to do with this?
In an atmosphere of "We defeated the wrong enemy", Wallenberg's situation was probably not considered a priority. 🙄🙄
So rare to find diplomats whose actions speak even louder than their words.
Wallenberg was amazing.
There's a street in northern Tel Aviv named after him, with a statue commemorating him
There is also a statue of Wallenberg in London, near Marble Arch. Here in the U S there are streets in several places with his name. The Raoul Wallenberg Committee of The United States was founded in 1981 to spread nonviolent humanitarian ideals, it still gives a prize annually to recognize people that uphold those ideals.
And let's not to forget another hero named Chiune Sugihara, He also saved many hundreds of Jewish people from the nazi's gas chambers!
@@Skydiver-gk8bk yes. Sugihara was among the very first persons to be honored as a "Righteous Among the Nations" at Yad Vashem, he has a tree planted with a plaque. He most certainly deserves to be remembered.
One of Wallenberg's colleagues in Budapest, Per Anger helped refugees after the Hungarian Uprising in 1956, one woman he'd given a Schutzpass to in WW2 recognised him at a refugee camp.
Good information, thank you
The way the NKVD view the Allies is more akin to, just because you are a friend of a friend doesn’t mean you are my friend.
Now talk!
Or maybe the enemy of my enemy is a useful tool.
@@daffyduck780 That was the attitude of OSS and British intelligence who took the fascist Ukrainian OUN/UPA under their protection to use as tool.
@seanp9277 hitler immediately put the Ukrainian fascists under arrest soon after the wehrmacht occupied ukraine and kept Bandera in a jail until the very end, they only reason they where letting him out was the soviets were chasing them and hoped Bandera and the Ukrainian fascists will fight as partizans against the red army. It wasn't just Ukrainians BTW. But belorussians and polish far right wingers too.
Sounds weirdly current and topical, mate. Pseudo-Czar, wannabe Stalin Putin yaks the exact same shite.
An enemy of my enemy is a friend. And they meant it. At that time Americans reffered Stalin as their good old Uncle Joe and the army even gave Chuikov their 2.nd highest military award. It is well documented that even Zhukov admitted that without American aid, they would not be able to beat Germany.
This is a hard one to watch. While certainly not the bloodiest crime we've seen this war, there's something especially despicable about arresting and imprisoning heroes who had done so much to save the victims of those even bloodier crimes
I generally reject the notion of heroism, but Wallenberg and his allies are some of the few exceptions. It's heartbreaking stuff. Never forget.
A guy saving people with papers against hate and guns is braver than most.
After all the colossal failings of humanity at this point, it's shocking to have this history of bravery in the face of depravity so succinctly conveyed.
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God is good, no matter what is happening 🙏🏾
First read of Raoul Wallenberg in 1981 when still learning about the situation in Hungary towards the end of the Second World War. His sudden disappearance while carrying out a huge (for one person) task of saving lives by giving diplomatic protection was a mystery then, and his removal by the NKVD indicates the paranoia and mistrust in its thinking that contributed to the start of the Cold War. His fate may be documented in the Soviet archives held in Russia. When those may see the light of day is hard to tell. Requiescat in pace, Raoul Wallenberg.
They were published when under Yeltsin the records were freely accessible to researchers hence why it's most accepted he died in 1947.
@@akosbarati2239 Thank you.
I still have to get my head around; Eastern Europe wasn't liberated
It got a new occupier.
They traded one despot for another
No good deed goes unpunished.
This is my first time hearing about Raoul Wallenberg. I am glad you were able to focus on him if for a bit, especially with all dark deeds we hear of in War against Humanity, his story and actions really shine thru
The history of Perlasca's feats is impressive!
There is a movie of him actually!
@@anxiety07 There is?
This is the first I heard of him. Wow, his feats were incredible!
@@andromeda331 Raoul Wallenberg: a hero's story. 1985 tv movie with Richard Chamberlain in the lead. There's also Italian movie 'Perlasca. The courage of a just man.'
A friend of my family is from Hungary; he and his mother were saved by Raoul Wallenberg. Really drives home that these were real people who might not have survived without the actions of many truly heroic individuals. Raoul Wallenberg and the others like him are true inspirations.
What Parlsca did, and I learned here, make me finally proud to be Italian (though living far away). Where people like him, Lutz, Wallenberg etc are nowadays? Real heroes of incredible humanity and courage
As I watch these episodes of War Against Humanity, especially the latest ones, I cannot help but hear Sergeant War Daddy from the movie Fury in my ears as he turns to Norman, a mere boy in his tank crew and says, "Ideals are peaceful. History is violent."
History is replete with such violent acts as what happened in World War 2. As distasteful as it can be, we must never forget these, and so very many other, helpless people.
Spartacus, I'm so glad that those who literally put their lives on the line to save as many people as possible are highlighted in these episodes. For every despicable and dastardly act committed by men reduced to their most base behavior, there are so many others who rose to the occasion to preserve life.
I salute you, Spartacus, and your team for bringing forth these heroes.
omg! I had not thought that Spartacus and Time Ghost History would be covering Raoul Wallenberg and the heroes of Budapest. Ever since an American television movie - _Wallenberg : A Hero's Story_ starring Richard Chamberlain I have studied and tried understanding the Holocaust. Still can never understand inhumanity or that kind of mass hate, so I continue to study and learn.
While noone denies the Soviet contribution to the defeat of Nazi Germany and the suffering they have endured, their crimes shall still not be forgotten.
They mostly have been forgotten. Almost nobody knows the soviets did bad things, everyone knows the nazis did bad things
Of course not. Not ever. Showcasing both is not mutually exclusive.
Still waiting for my grandfather's watch to finally arrive after in 45' comrade Sacha promised to repair it and sending it back after the war.
My pop used to say despite he misses that watch really bad, he hopes that son of a... ch survived the war :)
@@MaximStrav while all armies commit crimes, the Nazis and then the Russians did bad things on a completely different scale to what the Brits and US did.
Boo hoo 😢@@MaximStrav
Excellent episode. You should do one about Count Folke Bernadotte ad well. His work and ultimate fate is very interesting as well.
Such bravery in the face of such horror is truly awe inspiring.
Never Forget.
Never Forget. Never Again
My Great-Grandfather was taken to the Caucasus for several years because some drunk soviet soldiers had mistaken him for an arrow cross party member, even though he worked in the Farkasréti cemetery, having to leave his 12-year-old son and his wife in the destroyed Budapest.
Respect.
Kudos for the historical accuracy and the maximalist attitude is clearly visible from small details like the near perfect pronunciation of hungarian words. Keep up the good work 👏
And again a great episode and another great finishing monologue. This time one that is not dark, but one that gives hope and lifts up. Thank you Sparty for your work, presenting the horrors of the war, though this week there have finally been some good news on the episode.
And thank you to all the brave men who risked everything, trying to save the Hungarian Jews. May your names never be forgotten!
Got to watch these as soon as they come out, before the CZcams censors get to them... 😞 Never forget!!
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Information about ww2 I didn't know, thank you 🧐
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Such bright lights! So few lights! Thanks for the touch of hope.
As usual your end words are the most positive part of these videos which must be so brutal keep up the good work
I fell behind on the WAH episodes for a few months because it was getting harder to stomach the week-by-week coverage of atrocities and nightmares. As the episodes piled up I began to feel a sense of guilt because, as a student of history, I've clung to the belief that we owe it to the victims to know their stories and to keep their memories alive, and yet I wasn't fulfilling that task. Over these last 2 weeks I've managed to catch up by spacing out how frequently I watched missed episodes, as well as with a little liquid courage. In that time, I have noticed that the WAH episodes tend to get fewer views than the weekly episodes. And honestly, given the last two episodes of Auschwitz's liberation and the mass rapes committed by the Red Army, it's not hard to see why, especially with all the renewed focus society has given toward mental health these last few years. Episode 126 genuinely made me cry, and I came very close to doing so again with episode 127. But hearing the stories of brave men like Raoul Wallenberg and Giorgio Perlasca has been a tremendous source of hope and optimism in the midst of one of humanity's darkest moments.
Spartacus, I once again must give you tremendous thanks for managing to deliver these gut-wrenching history lessons so that we may better understand how civilized people can sink to such barbaric low points. From one history buff to another, stay happy and healthy.
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It's hard to listen. I agree with you that WAH is something to look from time to time. I got the chance to listen to old people having lived or survived the war in my country (France) and some stories were so grim it looks like dark fantasies. They were not.
Very excellent. Thank You. This answers many questions. Is not Wallenberg one of the few people who have honorary U.S. citizenship?
he is
Thanks a lot for making this episode telling a story of the war that needed to be told. Also, thanks a lot for the huge work you put into all the videos of this docuseries.
Thank you, really appreciate your kind words.
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he shared a cell with eichmann's aide? Wonder what they talked about...
They shared a cell? In 1945? I wonder if Candy Crush was out yet!
I'll show myself out.
What ?@@colinmerritt7645
Thanks for telling the story.
These are the heroic people in history we rarely ever hear about.... If we hear about them at all. Many of these names were unfamiliar to me so far. Thank you once more for your important and great work!
Let's be honest the way this part of World War II was told to us at least in the United States Battle of the Bulge Hitler shoots himself and then patent Comes Marching Home
I learned new things-thank you Spartacus!
Thanks to tell the tale of the other diplomats. Everyone knows Wallenberg and Lutz (I actually live at the river bank named after them), but the other stories are lesser known even to us Hungarians (Perlasca, Anger).
Can Hollywood please, PLEASE make a movie about Perlasca?
Amen
Fascinating history as always. 🙂
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@spartacus-olsson In polish side of wikipedia on Wallenberg states that he had extesive knowledge about Katyn massacre, and had talked with prof. Ferenca Orsósa who investigated that massacre on hungerian behalf and have evidence on that matter. Thats why he was targeted.
That’s one theory, however, the evidence for that is very circumstantial. There’s no immediate proof that it was the reason. It may have contributed, but it’s unlikely that it was the main cause.
@@spartacus-olssonPlus let's put this in context, yes, the Hungarian committee did find Soviet culpability; however, they were willingly under SS supervision. When it comes to Katyn, only the post-Cold War exhumation is the reliable source. I subscribe to the theory, that by this point the Soviets made great strides in Finland, eyeing at Norway in the hopes of catching it before the Western Allies can, and Sweden was important as a neutral country. Wallenberg's family were industrialists and key players in a possible Swedenization, to have a nominal non-belligerent country sympathetic to Soviet policy.
I am a bit disappointed, that neither spies and ties or your series made a mention of Hannah Szenes, whose sacrifice was a precursor to Cold War Western belief that an airdropped agent familiar with the terrain will still be familiar with the political climate. Lutz, Perlasca and Wallenberg are the most known foreigners. Even after filmmaking shut down, Katalin Karády risked her life by hiding Jews in her villa during the war. The incoming communist regime kept her on for a short while, then she got banned and left the country in 1956. Her efforts to save the most vulnerable got forgotten beyond her passing until the 1990s.
Antal Páger, an Arrow Cross sympathizer took the other route, he fled to Argentina, his hopes of becoming a great actor for the Hungarian emigrés flopped, and shortly before the revolution he returned to Hungary. The Imre Nagy cabinet embraced him and he went on to have a second movie career. He never faced punishment for his willing propaganda for the Arrow Cross.
What happened between november 1944 and february of 1945 left a deep mark on Hungary, influencing the 1956 pogroms committed during the revolution. During the war my maternal grandparents were transported with the retreating Nazis and Arrow Cross (plus regular army) through Austria to Bavaria, getting captured by the incoming American troops. Back home in eastern Hungary at the same time, there were two waves of deportations, the first one specifically targeted collaborators, the second one was more random as you also mentioned. Because the Soviets relied in part on Holocaust survivors, locals started to spread the legend among themselves that the Jews enacted revenge by this second wave of deportation. My grandfather was a member on a revolutioinary committee in 1956 when all hell broke lose and mobs targeted Jewish businesses and killed Jewish people.
Where I massively respect and supports your work, and don't expect or desire special treatment on the subject, I still feel Hungary will not learn its true role, if we only ever cite foreign sources. To me, part of never forget is that when people talk about Soviet war crimes against civilians, one should also ask why do you only talk about the non-Jewish non-Romani Hungarians? The discourse will not change if people are allowed the logical fallacy Nazis raped way fewer Hungarian women ergo they were the good guys.
If Wallenberg had anything on it, it was almost certainly info that came from the German announcement of 1943. Nothing to suggest he had other reliable sources.
Thank you.
Powerful episode!
People are willing to help everyone with the best intensions are still being murdered by the liberators and it won't stop even after its all over with! Very sad beginning for a world torn by war...
Remember there was a push during the 90s to solve Raoul's unknown fate but nothing really came of it, as said he most likely died during the mid to late 40s.
Btw how did I miss the fact Spartacus is Swedish? As soon as he pronounced "Wallenberg" I could tell. SKÅL FÖRFAN!! Grymt jobb ni gör, tack och bock!
The Russians never acknowledge any of the crimes. E.g. Bishop Vilmos Apor was trying to protect some women from being raped and for that was shot by Soviet soldiers. It was forbidden to speak about it for the next 40 years.
When reading Russian-Soviet history during the Gorbachev era, the writers at that time, practically all of whom were not pro-Soviet or pro-Russian, forgot about Wallenberg.
It was only during the 1990s, as you put it, when Wallenberg received some limited mention.
Later, some campaigners, recalled that during the Cold War, the Western establishment did not seem interested in it, which was unusual at a time when making the Soviets looked bad was largely considered a good thing. 🙄🙄
There's a park in the Melbourne suburb of Kew dedicated to Raoul Wallenberg.
The first video from this channel I've watched since October 6th 2023, as "my neighbourhood " has occupied me with "other concerns"
Take care of yourself and your close ones.
Thanks!
Thank you very much for the superchat!
I've been driving often through Raoul-Wallenberg-Straße in Berlin, asking myself why this street has such an unusual name for a Germany city. Now I know. Never forget!
There are statues in Tel Aviv and London to Raoul. There are also several streets in the United States that honor the Wallenberg name, the US Holocaust Memorial Museum is located on one of them.
This is sad and frightful. It must be to learn😢
I instantly think of Witold Pilecki aka Inmate 4859...
I think of him and Karel Janousek, Czech Aerial Marshall, subject matter of Far From The Fame by Sabaton
Could you please elaborate on him?
He was a Polish officer who infilitated Auschwitz to try to get the news out of what was happening there. After the war, he was executed by the Communists. @@thanos_6.0
@@thanos_6.0He snuck into Auschwitz and gave one of the first detailed reports on what the Nazis were up to. After the war he was arrested by the Polish Peoples Republic, a puppet state of the USSR. He was tortured in prison and given a kangaroo trial which resulted in his execution.
@@thanos_6.0Polish soldier who served in the Home Army. Volunteered to go Aushwitz as a prisoner, collected info on atrocities, broke out and fought in Warsaw. He refused to renounce the government in exile and was shot by the Soviet puppet government.
Thank you for not going easy on the Allies when they do wrong too. It's utterly appalling not just what the Soviets did to Axis civilians, but to the very resistance members who risked everything saving the lives of countless Jews and others. To do all that only to be arrested and disappeared by SMERSH/NKVD, one can only imagine what was going through their minds.
Gotta admire Wallenburge for that hustle 🫰💯
These diplomatic stunts would also not be the only ones in history where ambassadors and their staff would work relentlessly to try and save innocent people from opressive powers. What comes to mind in my case is the one time when the Swedish ambassador to Chile took his entire staff and made a human shield around as many people as possible after the military junta had rounded up many many people who Pinochet had deemed undesireable, domestic and internationals alike. My grandmother, who escaped Chile to Sweden at the time with her children, told me the story the first time. It was not on the scale of what Raul Wallenberg and all the other diplomats in Hungary had managed, but it's still impressive that such actions sent a ripple effect through entire societies.
This incident was practically not mentioned in the MSM for 50 years since 1973.
Pinochet being a "friend of the West" probably was a factor. 🙄🙄
His name was Harald Edelstam.🇸🇪
@@joarlarsson6132 Thank you! :)
Still can't find the tv movie from the 80s with Richard Chamberlain as Wallenberg.
czcams.com/video/T-a6w0qUfJk/video.html
You mean Good Evening Mr. Wallenberg❤
It is available on youtube.
Raoul Wallenberg was so incredible. He had such guts to do what he did and save as many as he did. I remember first learning about him in school one of the few who saved Jews that we learned about. What a hero. It sucks that he "disappeared" in the Soviet Union.
Ill say this as a Pole and a WW2 buff. This title is USRR in a nut shell.
Hungary was an ally of Hitler, and together they attacked the Russians. The Hungarians were distinguished by sadism and cruelty towards the civilian population. Therefore, the Russians did not take the Hungarians prisoner. The entire 2nd Royal Hungarian Army was destroyed near Voronezh.
Never forget.
Is it just me, or is the second report from the embassy very weird? At first it's about the Swiss embassy, in the last sentence it's the Swedish embassy, and it says in the video it's a "Soviet Embassy Report" despite Spartacus saying its another Swiss embassy report.
The Impending Deadline of Doom Editing Errors as I like to call them.
That’s a typo - it’s a Swiss report. The last bit has ellipses before it - there’s a whole long section in between talking about other legations.
also thought it was weird, perhaps a typo
@@spartacus-olsson Thank you for clearing it up.
The whole episode is full of holes.
A few years ago i read a book by a brazilian historian, Dennison de Oliveira, about german-brazilian (brazilians with german descent to be more especific) soldiers that were born in Brazil but fought on the war for Germany (the name of the book in portuguese is "Os Soldados Brasileiros de Hitler", saddly it's only in portuguese). The author interviewed a few veterans back in the early 2000's that were still alive (they were alredy pretty old by then, with some dying before the book was finished), and one, called Der Americaner (a nickname that was given to him by his fellow germans during the war. the book doesn't show their real names due to repercusions they could recieve irl), refused to fight in Italy (a more lighter front) because he knew brazilians were fighting there, and instead choose to fight the soviets in Hungary, even participating in the defense of Budapest. He even recalls that he had to pretend to be dead so he wouldn't be killed by soviet troops.
Spartacus,
I don't "like" your series, I click that button every time but the truth is that I hate being reminded of what bastards humans can be.
I have watched every episode so far and always finish with a heavy heart at what a nasty race we humans are. Your "Never Forget" almost fills me with tears.
I am not Jewish and have been aware of the Holocaust for decades but your regular episodes remind me that this was a 24/7 operation right up to the last day. I feel offended as a human being over the Holocaust.
As sickening and offensive as the content of these episodes are I feel that this should be seen by everybody so that we "Never Forget"
I hope you run out of material soon but I feel there is more to come.
Thank you Spartacus for this series and your compassionate presentation
Tony (I won't forget)
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Nice introduction...wars are always persuasive by inhumanitarian deals committed by former authoritatives of both victory and defeated sides ... not forget
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Another great video by you guys and gals. Raol Wallenburg was the greatest hero of the war, and he didn'r even use a gun. Unfortunately Stalin was a mass murderer, including millions of his own people. And I'm not defending any damn Nazi's either
What happended in Hungary and middle/eastern European countries was terrible. And the Soviet treatment of women in Germany was more rhan apalling. And yes, I am very aware of what the German's did in all parts of the Russia's, I've been interested in history since about the age of 8 to 9.. Am now in my lare 60's and have read every WWII books that I could find.
If you love black humor, I suggest that you see the film 'The Death of Stalin'. And never forget!
Two movies have been made about Wallenberg.
NEVER FORGET!
No good deed goes unpunished
Thank you, Timeghost. The Never Forget expression could not be more relevant. In this case, the behaviour of the Soviet authorities could be explained by the certainty that no one would ever be challenging their supremacy over the conquered territories. It was a done deal. Just like Czechoslovakia was sacrificed in 1938 to appease Hitler. The Soviets could do anything they wanted, and be certain that no one would hold them accountable.
Fast forward to today. It would be interesting how Russian school books describe (if at all) the siege of Budapest. Since Russia's leader doubtlessly praises Stalin, I bet that not be much is covered. It is a recipe for disaster and a way to repeat past atrocities, particularly relevant for the current period, when morally bankrupt politicians like Trump and Orbán would be willing to negotiate and yield to despots some deemed "far-away worthless territory". We are dangerously close. Regrettably, it looks we have forgotten.
I've heard it said that the USSR had a tendency to throw non-Communist resistance members (edit: and Communist resistance members who were not specifically pro-Soviet Communists*) of various organizations either to the wolves or into the gulags as soon as they took control of the region they operated in - all based on the rationale that someone who was prone to resisting authority and was not a Communist fanatic would be likely to resist Soviet control after the dust settled. I wonder if that's the rationale in this case.
*Thanks to balazslengyel6950 for the reminder that not all Communist resistance members were Soviet-aligned.
Some of the early political prisoners the Russian took away were some Hungarian communist opposing the Nazis, but who were not aligned to Moscow. Communists who didn't support Moscow's orders were treated as the Nazis.
@@balazslengyel6950Ah right, I did mean specifically pro-Soviet communists - I'll add a correction. Thanks!
These and many other stories are only a small part of the dangers experienced by the peoples of Eastern Europe! If liberation really took place in the west, then the war ended in the east, but the horrors brought by the new occupiers did not!
In my homeland, Latvia, on May 8, 1945, the war did not end, the fight with the Soviet troops lasted for years. The last forest brothers gave up in the mid-1950s.
And today the fog of horror begins to thicken again!
а чьей стороне воевали латыши? и с кем они воевали? с мирными жителями?
I have never understood why Wallenberg and those who, like him, tried valiantly to save so many were seemingly forgotten by their own governments. Why didn’t their respective governments demand more forcefully their release? Were these men sacrificed to appease the Soviets in the hope for peace or simply considered collateral damage at the end of the war?
Not really, but perhaps a little. As I said in the video, the others were released after pressure and negotiations. In the case of Wallenberg the Swedish government believed the fake news he had died. However, the US were suspicious and offered to investigate deeper. This was turned down by the Swedes (which is why I said perhaps a little ). By the time became apparent that he had not died in Budapest, it was too late, more than two years had gone by and he was probably already dead. At that point pressure mounted, but for obvious reasons the Soviets simply denied everything and stonewalled.
Very nice video very clarifying understood it 👍 👌 👏 😀
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Sad to see that 80 years later, nothing has changed in how the Russian government and army behave.
It's centuries of history we are dealing with, not just decades. One example among many, check how the Circassians were cleansed in the 1850s.
Sadly eastern Europe traded one despot for another
I’m surprised there is not more information in the KGB files about the fate of some of these people
Why does nobody remember that the Soviets were German allies in the Polish invasion?
Nobody is a bit strong… we here at TimeGhost haven’t forgotten 😉
The Soviets spent years trying to rewrite and reframe history to downplay the bad things they did before and during the war. Even today the Russian government has misinformation agents arguing in bad faith on social media trying to convince people the Russians were the good guys through and through and the only true opposition to fascists. Trying to highlight how awful the Soviet government could be during the war will get you a significant degree of backlash on places like Reddit or old Twitter.
Hi Sparty
This war is so cruel that those who try to help are also getting murdered. Need to remember them.
Never forget.
Second world war started when Germany took half of Poland. At the end of it USSR occupied Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania, Poland, Czechoslovakia, Jugoslavia, Romania, part of Germany...
SMERSH is back. I recently saw a brief clip of Russian militia shutting down a protest, and some of them had смерш emblazoned on their uniforms.
Which means ruzzue is going the way of the USSR.
It has been for a while now.@@WinstonMaraj-gx8sm
@@WinstonMaraj-gx8sm SMERSH was born during the civil war. Hmmm...
Never meet your heroes has a different meaning when you are a NKVD agent.
Never forget!!!?
Hungary was an ally of Hitler, and together they attacked the Russians. The Hungarians were distinguished by sadism and cruelty towards the civilian population. Therefore, the Russians did not take the Hungarians prisoner. The entire 2nd Royal Hungarian Army was destroyed near Voronezh.
The Soviets helped immensely in defeating the Nazis.
They also committed many, many horrific war crimes.
Communists and Fascists seem to work with the same set of rules when it comes to the conquered (or "liberated").
Well, Russia didn’t really liberate eastern Europe as much as they conquered it.
nice opinion, but there is one thing...she really liberated them from the Nazis.
@@Fulcrum01 I would argue that to ”liberate” implies that liberty / freedom follows. Behind the Iron Curtain freedom was scarce to put it mildly.
When people are leaving in droves and you have to build walls and barbed wire fences to keep your own population from leaving… That is bad.
And it’s not an opinion. It’s a fact.
@@Fulcrum01 nice optinion, but there is one thing... it really subjugated it for the communists.
@m01 The Soviets did not allow for any degree of self-determination in any of the states it liberated with the exception of Austria, therefore these were indeed opportunistic conquests.
@@Fulcrum01 In the world of historical revisionism, the answer is no.
If the quote was correct, then Zhukov was correct in saying that Europe would not forgive Soviet Russia for liberating Europe from fascism.
The strength of revisionist movements proved a sizable chunk of Europe were quite willing to along with Nazi-fascism so long they felt it was in their national interests. Perhaps the Nazis got a bit too pushy in getting non-Germanics to toe the Berlin line.
"We defeated the wrong enemy" became a favorite slogan.
That partly explained the rise of another slogan "From the river to the sea".
If Western Allies had not made the so-called "mistake", these revisionists argued, the Nazis would be able to get their job done without interference from the Soviets.🙄🙄
Imagine being liberated from Hitler by Stalin.
Out of the frying pan into the fire. Not fully true, the Soviets worked somewhat slower.
The proximate cause was the lack discipline, organization, and communication. In turn, these were caused by a culture of impunity, dehumanization, and the lack of a large, experieced corps of low and mid-ranking officers. The discipline and organization problems were caused by a lack of a large officer corps of low and mid-ranking officers because of purges and a simultaneously top-down military culture that hadn't changed since the tzarist era. The lack of communication was caused by technological gaps, shortages, and lack of large numbers of people with the requisite technical knowledge and skills caused by purges, ecoonomic woes, and a high illiteracy rate at the time. Don't purge your officers and scientists, adhere to democratic norms, address eextreme poverty and illiteracy, use policy to promote science and industry, don't micromanage every aspect of research and production, don't allow a culture of corruption, impunity, and dehumanization to take root.
What was the Swedish government's reaction to Wallenberg's death? Given that he was a diplomat sent to Hungary on behalf of the Swedish government, arrested by the NKVD, and mysteriously died jn their custody. Did they raise this with the Soviets or any such diplomatic outrage?
The timing is impeccable as always. Just this last week or so, another man died in a Russian prison under mysterious circumstances, and his plight has echoed around the world.
It's eerie how history rhymes
Point noted. Also worth remembering was that slightly earlier, a US citizen died in an Ukrainian prison under similar circumstances and regrettably, his government gave practically zero interest.
Ukraine and Ukrainians were very much part of the Russian-Soviet system.
For those who moaned about FDR being too nice too Stalin at Yalta (also located in the geographic Ukrainian zone), it's eerie that how easily history can repeat itself. 🙄🙄
Thanks for presenting this information about what happened in Budapest of which I was totally ignorant. Some true heroes and many many villains. I suppose that sums up WW2
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when my father and I were in Budapest in the mid-80s, an elderly man came up and took us by the hand. my father then asked why he did that? it's because we are Swedes and Roul saved him from the Nazis...have never been so proud to be Swedish as then
That's a great story!
-TimeGhost Ambassador
i would like to see a WAH special on the wolyn massacre - as this even today is a very skipped topic, especially it is silenced now due to the war
Since we're a chronological series, it was covered in February through June 1943 when it happened (two years ago).
The Soviet approach to intelligence work with its "allies" is akin to what happened during the War on Terror 20 years ago where US intelligence officers found out the hard way that dealing with the Russians was a one-way street.
Do you have more details on this? I'm curious.
There are many examples in the episode that show that neutrality can be a tool for the good.
Giorgio
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My dad was 12 years old in District 8 at this time.
Unfortunately the NKVD tactics still prevail to this day.
VERGISS ES NIE!
I have heard of Raoul Wallenberg of course. But you filled in some of the gaps of what happened to him. andrewstockwell66 informs us that Wallenberg was UM grad. That is a source of pride for someone born and raised in Michigan and has always held UofM in high regard. In your WAH reports we hear of so much cruelty and carnage it is refreshing to know there were those out there confronting the evil head on, even leading to their own demise! RIP all the heroes!
It's amazing how Russian tactics are still the same in 2024
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@@DarkFawfulhistory challenged dork
@@DarkFawful or maga fan who happened to be right.
Another outstanding episode.
14th, 22 February 2024