The Germans Knew About the Holocaust! - War Against Humanity 125
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- How often have you heard that the German population was unaware of the horrors of the Nazi camp system? Well, the opening months of 1945 destroys that myth once and for all as the SS force hundreds of thousands of Jews and other prisoners to march across the Reich and into the vast network of sub-camps. All of this happens in in full view of the German people.
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Denial of the crimes of the Nazis is on the rise. A recent survey found that 20% of Americans aged 18-29 believe the Holocaust is a myth. Time and again, Sparty, Indy, Astrid, and everyone here at Timeghost have tackled such falsehoods. The historical record shows clearly that the German people, whether Nazi Party functionaries, SS men, soldiers, or ordinary civilians, knew what was happening to the Jews, Soviet prisoners of war, and other ethnic and political enemies who were murdered in the woods and fields of Eastern Europe, gassed in the extermination camps, imprisoned in the concentration camp system, or set to work as forced labourers in the Reich. Now more than ever, it’s important to fight back against such lies. Join the Timeghost Army to fight against the lies.
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Amazing outro today Sparty. I didn't know the underground labor camps were that extensive, sheesh. Makes me regret Von Brauns involvement in the u.s. that much more challenging.
20% is a lot, in a country who arguably teaches it in school. What happened for this number to show ?
@@lc1138 Antisemetism. It is ALWAYS antisemetism
@@lc1138 The Republican Party in the US actively tries to prevent any teaching of anything wrong that people of a certain skin colour have ever done (slavery, the Holocaust, lack of civil rights, urban redlining...).
As the USA and Europe imports more and more people whose grandfathers were not from our country to live these experiences and tell the stories ignorance and apathy towards the cause of World War II will rise accordingly. In many other parts of the world World War II and the Holocaust are either not taught, because it is not part of their national history, or a bent version of it is taught where the "Final Solution" is either down-played or even excused. Particularly in countries where anti-Semitism is normalized.
My mother passed away in 2022,a survivor of Auschwitz slave labor. She made bombs and bullets for the Nazis. The Russians liberated her in 1945. She survived pure hell. Not a day went by that i heard about this.She made a good life in America. She lived to 97 years old.Thank you for this series.The world must not forget.
God bless her and her memory 😢
dark irony of fate, i suspect there are russian detaining camps for ukrainians (see wiki for Russian_filtration_camps_for_Ukrainians before&after "Violence, torture, and killings" ) which suspected to prefer Ukraine to Russia on occupied Ukraine territory, what's happening there is unknown, but see "MILITARY POLICE OF RUSSIA TORTURES SOLDIERS FOR PLEASURE | Ep 2| @Zolkin Volodymyr" at 30m00s and that's what done to OFFICER! only suspected as defector (although suspicion was correct, but if they knew for sure at that time he would never leave that place alive)
while recently even Dejann Bericc hinted(it seems he deleted original video but you can find reloads from other people, and he still refers about incident but with much lesser info) about that, but most Russians prefer not to know, that's how totalitarian regime work.
She is in hell
They already have look at the middle east
The world is reminded... constantly.
_“There are hardly any excesses of the most crazed psychopath that cannot easily be duplicated by a normal kindly family man who just comes in to work every day and has a job to do.”_
Terry Pratchett, Small Gods
The banality of evil.
He was a humanist till the end :)
The below could have applied to the Germans as well and to people living in totalitarian systems in general:
"There's something honest about slaves and whips. Well. . . they ain't got whips here. They got something worse than whips.
It's got obedience. Whips in the soul. They obey anyone who tells them what to do. Freedom just means being told what to do by someone different.”
In: Interesting Times.
fear is the root of all evil
A normal kindly family man from a Germanic descent. Autistic cultures that worship conformity and obedience to the tribal leader! Before they get mad at me I hope they have put the correct garbage in the correct bin so that they are calmed down a bit!
This reminds me of Geraldine Schwarz, a Franco-German author, who wrote a book named "les amnésiques", which introduces me to this subject. She talks about her French and German sides of the family during the war. And the sudden amnesia of everybody involved after.
Exactly! Anti-Semitism didn't just wink into existence in 1933 then evaporate in 1945.
Thank you I just purchased the book. I don't speak French, but I better learn the language (again) so I can read it. Regarding the CZcams video it wasn't very good. Only 3-4 minutes of the video it tries to describe how German people knew-which is the title-while the remaining 17-16 minutes it describes the Holocaust. Perhaps the creator could have two videos in a. describing the genocide and b. exposing the lie that the Germans did not know about the Holocaust. Anyway thank you for the book suggestion.
It was almost like a great reset.
Film director Sam Fuller fought with The Big Red One in Europe. When his division liberated a concentration camp, his commanding officer had Fuller take some movies with his 8mm camera. The film confirms that the camp was just across the street from the outskirts of the town, demonstrating that the locals had to have known what was going on.
My grandfather said about Wobbelin. There was no way the civilians in Ludwigslust didn't smell the camp or see them being taken there.
I had the unpleasant experience of arriving at a truck crash scene where a trapped man burned up. Nobody needs to tell you what that awful smell is; somehow you instinctively know. And you never forget it. Whoever was downwind of the crematoria knew, and they were certain to speak of it with others. In the end I'd guess that most Germans knew enough to believe that it was happening.
dark irony of fate, i suspect there are russian detaining camps for ukrainians (see wiki for Russian_filtration_camps_for_Ukrainians before&after "Violence, torture, and killings" ) which suspected to prefer Ukraine to Russia on occupied Ukraine territory, what's happening there is unknown, but see "MILITARY POLICE OF RUSSIA TORTURES SOLDIERS FOR PLEASURE | Ep 2| @Zolkin Volodymyr" at 30m00s and that's what done to OFFICER! only suspected as defector (although suspicion was correct, but if they knew for sure at that time he would never leave that place alive)
while recently even Dejann Bericc hinted(it seems he deleted original video but you can find reloads from other people, and he still refers about incident but with much lesser info) about that, but most Russians prefer not to know, that's how totalitarian regime work.
But what could they do? Should they complain? Next day they would have been in the death camp themselves!
@@karlkirchweger4190respect to those who actually did try to help and were killed off for it. At least they had the balls to stand up for what is right
@@LarryDaLobstah how many tried to help..Mercedes..BMW..Audi..Bayer..and 100's of other German companies are drenched in the blood of innocents...GERMANY should still be paying today...
My grandmother died in Germany in 1947 at age 19. Her whole worldview and life were basically shaped under the Nazi regime. My grandfather was apparently a Serbian passing through Pirmasens on his way to Den Haag. My mom was their orphaned, bastard offspring. I often think about what it must have been like to be one of those mysterious family folk of mine- I hope my grandmother wasn't horrible, I hope my grandfather didn't force himself on my grandmother- I want them both to be as emotionally astute and intelligent as my mother... but people will always find a way to let you down.
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My good friends' grandmother was deported from Ukraine to Munich area. Out of the entire train only she and one other young woman survived because an old lady bought them as domestic service (which she didn't need, just wanted to save someone, considering it her duty as a good Catholic). Others went to factories, such as BMW and were worked to death.
I would never own a BMW
The Germans knew and the Wehrmacht was complicit in it.
Complicit is putting it too lightly. The Wehrmacht were the murderers themselves in many many cases. As were ordinary German civilians, a great example being the ones who joined in the abuse of death march victims (16:15)
The Wehrmact issued many standing orders and decrees explicitly ordering and encouraging war crimes, yet they are scarcely mentioned in many media formats. Commissar Order, Barbarossa Decree, Hunger Plan, Severity Order, Commando Order to name a few.
Then there's Rommel, the poster boy of that myth that is infuriating to behold.
Well do not mention any incidents vary ranks within wehrmacht deliberate and at times, out right criticize the use of Einzatzgruppen and the atrocities they committed. The several times disobeying orders, sabotage and passing intelligence to Allies forces even in the early years of 1940's.
Majority of compliance from Wehrmacht in astrocities are from well fear of being sent to concentration camps by their superiors if they disobey.
Granted towards the end, disobedience among the ranks based on moral/ethical or political objection to Nazi party was dwarfed due to fear into compliance and fear of what will happen after losing the war. Rightfully so on the latter.
If my father Emile knew about the camps, while living in the center of France, everyone would have known. He knew and did something about it.
@@salemgrimmgaming1761 There was very little recorded punishment for those who refused to partake in atrocities in both the Wehrmacht and the SS. They took part anyways. It wasn't fear at all. In the few cases that people did refuse it was accepted and they received little punishment. Also, the Wehrmacht Rear areas played a huge role in the logistics for the Einsatzgruppen and the "Bandit Warfare" where they directly massacred hundreds of thousands themselves. The officer corps of the army was extremely supportive of National Socialism at the lower and middle levels and the higher levels mainly disagreed with it for reasons of old Prussian conservative ideals rather than any defence of the victims. Many higher officers were disgusted at the atrocities but considered it less important than the other issues in the war and fully backed Hitler until he was losing. There were some notable exceptions of course but the large majority of the Wehrmacht were complicit
How awful, how sad. Spartacus each week you outdo yourself with a rousing, powerful summation of the horrors of this dreadful chapter of the human race. WE MUST NEVER FORGET! Thank you so much for all this hard work that you and your staff put into this series. I wish I could say more but I am actually at a loss for words right now. Thank you again.
Thank your for your comment and your kind words. And NEVER FORGET!
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Yet again and again we forget, or do little: Rwanda, the Cambodian Killing fields, the communists work/death camps, it happens again and a again. Man's heart is evil, and the evil breaks out like a chronic disease. or as the song by Bob Dylan says "Yes, and how many times can a man turn his head And pretend that he just doesn't see?"
@@tommy-er6hh Also October 7th in Israel when the Hamas Nazis murdered so many innocent men, women, children and even babies and they filmed it all with GLEE. They did not try to hide it like the Nazis did.
You are naive and believe anything somebody else tells you without researching it for yourself.
@@stevenrainer6882are you talking about yourself?
I am always reminded of The Twilight Zone episodes "Death Head revisited and "He´s Alive" and their ending monolog: "There is an answer to the doctor's question. All the Dachaus must remain standing. The Dachaus, the Belsens, the Buchenwalds, the Auschwitzes; all of them. They must remain standing because they are a monument to a moment in time when some men decided to turn the Earth into a graveyard. Into it they shoveled all of their reason, their logic, their knowledge, but worst of all, their conscience. And the moment we forget this, the moment we cease to be haunted by its remembrance, then we become the gravediggers. Something to dwell on and to remember, not only in the Twilight Zone but wherever men walk God's Earth."
"Where will he go next, this phantom from another time, this resurrected ghost of a previous nightmare - Chicago? Los Angeles? Miami, Florida? Vincennes, Indiana? Syracuse, New York? Anyplace, everyplace, where there's hate, where there's prejudice, where there's bigotry. He's alive. He's alive so long as these evils exist. Remember that when he comes to your town. Remember it when you hear his voice speaking out through others. Remember it when you hear a name called, a minority attacked, any blind, unreasoning assault on a people or any human being. He's alive because through these things we keep him alive."
He's Alive was the one with Dennis Hopper, right? I remember that episode.
Yes indeed, thats the one. @@fearlessfosdick160
Thank you for posting this. It is easy to blame another “tribe” for your problems. What if your tribe is blamed?
Never Forget!
I remember both those episodes. very stirring programs.
In my view it has moved on to Davos, where a relatively small but extremely powerful cabal of people are determined to shape the world in accordance with their preferences and desire to control every human being on the planet. The Gr*at R*set could equally well be the Final Solution, or the Third Reich. Schwab describes their plans for a 'Fourth Industrial Revolution' in which we will have nothing and they will be in total control. They want us to live in 15 minute cities and have no private transport; eat bugs; be surveilled 24/7 and be totally dependent for our survival on their world government. In essence, what difference is there between what the Nazis did - their guards, concentration camps and total control, and what is to come if they succeed?
I did my bachelor's capstone research on Dachau. They knew, they watched it get worse and worse, the locals knew cruel things were happening. The general feeling was, "better them than me. And if i keep my mouth shut, then my family will be safe." And honestly? 99% of all people on earth would do the same under similar stress.
Sadly you are right.
It fills me with dread over how true this is.
no they only traded with him as long as it did fit their interests@@andrewallen9993
@@andrewallen9993to be fair, neither did the majority of Germans
@@andrewallen9993Hahahah. Your brain really loves to keep things simple, doesn't it?
Also, while the ends are grim, I find it quite heartening to hear stories of inmates actively resisting their extermination.
I cannot understand how Spartacus can keep doing these shows. He is a way tougher person than I am. When my father was stationed in Germany for 3 years as part of NATO forces, my mother and I were taken by him to visit Dachau. I was around 5 then and I remember the place, especially the smell. I knew before we went, exactly what had happened there. That was about 1956. I was never able to correlate how the nice people of Baden-Solingen and Rastatt could also be of the people that did these things. For all 3 years, we lived with the German people. We could have stayed on base but my father insisted we live with the people and not be isolated in little Canada on the base. The closest thing we did like that was to go to the big American PX in Munich.
Regardless, I admire Spartacus for being able to make these programs.
I think we are all in awe of his fortitude and strength in constantly producing this invaluable and painful content.
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We went there just before the Hungarian uprising when the refugees came. The smell was similar to burned pork drippings from a barbeque after the barbeque became cold. It seemed to be oozing from the bricks in the oven room that was left as a memorial. The bricks seemed to have a slight sheen as if burned or melted fat was still oozing out after a bit over 10 years. There could still have been others but I believe there was just the one open to the public. It was not as strong outdoors and not detectable when first entering. But for all I knew, the museum people could have been spraying something to enhance the experience.
The German people during the war were the living illustration of the saying "None so blind as those who will not see".
Even that would be a self-serving mischaracterization. They saw it. Many resented it. Every single one of them knew it was wrong. But it is as the "first they came" poem says. It's all fine, until they come for me.
No it's people will say anything
Obviously, there are exceptions of German people who did what they could and paid a very high price, like Bonhoeffer and those of the Weiße Rose. And all German people paid a high price for trusting the nazis.
However, considering how many people are now supporting populist politicians world wide and the relatively small of outcry against that, I will not be too mild my opinion of how the German people stayed quiet when they came to power.
A people is always responsible for the acts of their leaders, and choosing to turn away because their misdeeds affect others not you is how genocides get done.
@@dr.victorvs The two sayings are equivalent.
Gaza springs to mind.
Thank you Spartacus and the Time Ghost army. This history needs to be continuely told.
Thanks a lot to you for watching it! -TimeGhost Ambassador
My grandma told me that when she was a little child they lived next to a railway line in Silesia. One day in 1943 or 1944 she and her siblings noticed a train coming to a grinding halt in some distance of their home (which was some kind of line-keeper's house). Their father didn't allow the children to go outside and take a closer look but from their windows my grandma said she saw a cargo train and that she heard what sounded like children screaming and then some kind of upheaval breaking out, a bunch of people in civilian clothes trying to run away from one of the waggons. These people got immediately chased by German soldiers who shot at them with their guns. My grandma said that she and her older brother asked her father but that he didn't want to talk about what just has happened there and then told his children to remain silent about it and to not tell anyone else what they saw.
Not sure if back then my grandma and her siblings realised completely what was going on there but I think it's 100% certain that their parents (especially her father who worked as a signal man and line keeper and also got drafted into the army later) knew what has happened there and that similar terrible things were going on systematically.
Thank you for sharing this. How awfully confusing and frightening it must have been for your grandmother.
She was 10 or 11 years old back then and it seemed to be one of her more impactful memories from her childhood days during the war. I am fairly certain that throughout her life she remembered and thought about this incident far more often than the few times she told me or others about it.
Two of my grand uncles who were the younger siblings of my grandma also told me that they had memories about this incident. But they didn't seem to remember it so vividly but they also mentioned the train, the screaming and gunfire and their father telling them to be quiet about it.
In any case I am glad they've told me about these and some other things from that time. And I am glad if I can tell it to others.
@@paigetomkinson1137
@@fearofmusic1312 Thank you for sharing your grandmother's and great uncles memories. It's important.
Yes, all the Germans participated.
as a person of Polish heritage and being a student of history... I must admit... most times I have to prepare myself emotionally to watch these episodes. many times I am physically and emotionally exhausted and destroyed by the time of the final few words...
My father was in the Polish Army and fought the Germans in Warsaw in 1939 and later in Northern France in 1940. Later he escaped again and went to England and joined the Polish First Armored Division. He hated the Germans all his life and the few stories he told me I don’t blame him at all.
The Poles are great people
As a young man (1973) I had heard it all from an older coworker who was in the SS in Nazi Germany. They knew and many were complicit.
Another powerful closing. Thank you for this important work Sparty & team.
Never Forget.
Thanks a lot for watching our work. Never Forget. -TimeGhost Ambassador
Forget what?
Gaza
And even afterwards, jokes about Jews and camps were legion, and still pretty cruel. And they still are. "Be strong, have courage" : the words still resonate. Never forget.
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I cannot tell you how much I appreciate this series. Thank you for producing it. I hope the grief in studying and preparing the material doesn't exact too harsh a toll on your well-being and you get enough self-care.
Thank you to World War two channel and the War Against Humanity project for providing current insight into history. Your work may continue to be seen for many years to come.
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"Wir haben es nicht gewusst" (we didn't know) is probably one of the most infamous german postwar phases. Still, it is important to remember not all Germans were nazis and not all nazis were German.
This channel though me that almost all Germans were Nazis to some extent. The ones that weren't died before 1944
Not a defense but in defense like today people don't want to believe terrible things are true, by the time the German people could no longer deny it was far to late for individuals and small groups to do anything about it. We all bear some responsibility for the governments we elect but governments failing to deliver on promises once in office is no longer rare.
When standing up for what's right can get you and your family killed, it's more understandable how some kind and compassionate Germans may have stayed silent. The only way to fight a dictatorship is to vote against the potential dictators while voting still a reality.
My grandfather was part of the occupation forces in Germany that phrase was commonly used as well as Ich Bin Keine Nazi (I am not a Nazi) he once remarked sarcastically that it was funny he had been in germany for over 6 months and have not met a single Nazi.
@@jeffralston8946 The People have the ultimate responsibility. They have a duty to vote for reliable people, who will honour the Great Commandment "Do to others as you would have them do to you", and if the government strays from that, they have the responsibility to resist that government until it falls.
Failure to do either of these things will invariably bring great suffering upon them, which is their just reward.
Today it became known in Germany that our far-right party met with other neo-Nazis to discuss how to get rid of "all the undesirables" and their "supporters". A country in North Africa was suggested.
Yeah... where have we heard that before? And these days, no one can claim that "they didn't know". Not in this day and age where you can see the horrors of the world on your cell phone while sitting on the toilet.
Never again is now!
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Sounds like what Netanyahu is trying to do to the people of Gaza.
@@symbol8246 Or what Hezbollah has vowed to do to Israel. Hatred is wrong no matter where it comes from or to whom it is directed at. If someone is telling you to hate, then that person is not someone to be listened to, supported, or followed. Perhaps you can't stop their hate but you can be sure it's not in you.
Do you like Hamas fans that much?
@@symbol8246What Israel does is a response to October 7th
You, Spartacus, are making effective use of your pulpit. Thank you!
I spend significant time at a local Hebrew Congregation. The building is surrounded by rectangular concrete planters, what's planted is beautiful in season but the planters are there as barriers to prevent vehicles from getting to the buildings.
Ever since the Charlottesville Unite the Right riots in 2017, there has been extra security at the building, That's been doubled since the Hamas attack on Israel October 7, 2023.
Every time I'm there at the Hebrew Congregation, I cringe because the congregation believes this is necessary in 21st-century USA, "the land of the free and the home of the brave." What's even worse is that I cringe because the congregation is right -- it is necessary. 😢
If they didn't think of gentiles as cattle, they might be more liked.
Sadly it seems that these people do not understand who they have been voting for. It's even in my own extended family. Some of whom actually cursed me for trying to open their eyes. I'll leave it at that, God bless.
Brilliant, appropriately devastating episode. My late father, a soldier with the 11th Armored Division, was among the first US troops in Mathousen. He never spoke of it. I only learned of this from his brother, who served elsewhere.
Your father is part of the Greatest Generation! Men like him saved us.
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My grandfather was in Auschwitz since the Hungarians deported him and his family. His mother was murdered, his father enslaved, his sister enslaved.
Sorry 🇩🇪😢
Did the father and sister survive?
There's a great episode of The Twilight Zone, which deals with a camp. Rod Serling, in his concise powerful prose describes the need to remember.
It's sad how soon Humans forget.
I visited the Buchenwald museum, well its more a graveyard than a museum or memorial, at the end of 9th grade. There is nothing quit like standing besides thecrematorium ovens and realize: This has happend. This is happening. This will happen. Its not just a scary story, it is our reality
@@Amradar123 Its defenatly one of the things you wont forget. Its nothing but cowardly brutality
Thank you Spartacus and team, it is easy to label these people as monsters and create a divide between them and ourselves, yet research since the war has shown repeatedly it takes only careful prompting for a person to perform tasks which society rightly deems abhorrent.
Fantastic presentation of horrific facts. Thank you TimeGhost team for your work; it's sadly extremely necessary in these times. Take care everybody.
This was an exceptional conversation on this topic. Well done
"They turned their back. They did not care. They did not consider them worthy." That story is far from over. NEVER FORGET!
After the war ended it was far easier for former camp guards to come to Canada than for any survivors. Cdn minister of immigration's comment: "None would be too many!" makes that very clear.
Nonsense. The Germans civilian population were in such dire straits by January 1945, that they were focused solely on their own survival. Hunger, disease and constant bombardment by the Allied made life in Germany hell for everybody. Don't judge people from your comfortable heated home when you never experienced hunger a single day in your life.
@@stevenrainer6882Thank you, as a grandson whose family suffered severely at the end of the war. I'm glad that someone else realizes that there is context that is rarely afforded the German civilian population.
@@user-ct8tk9nh8z This whole video is just a disgusting anti-German hit piece. It is pretty obvious who is financing this kind of propaganda.
Thank you wholeheartedly for going beyond "Never Forget" to "We Must Not Allow it to be Forgotten".
It is our duty. -TimeGhost Ambassador
As someone who is pretty desensitized to a lot of horrible things this really hit me at my core. Just the fact that all of this happened just destroys your heart. To think people could be so hateful and so evil to people who were the same as them, just people trying to live their lives. No emotion can really describe what a horrible event this was, nothing really does the scale and magnitude of this genocide justice. I'm glad Time ghost does such a great work to make sure these stories are never lost to history. We must never forget.
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Yup. The older I get, the more I appreciate the good times I've lived in. People who complain about modern problems don't know how lucky they are.
An episode extremely difficult to watch, but totally necessary
Well said.
“If you prick us, do we not bleed?” ...
Good old Shakespeare.
Antisemitism and racism go back a loooong time and take on many forms and disguises over the ages and today.
Thank you. As painful as this series is to watch, I cannot imagine the emotional labor of making the series. Thank you.
Fantastic video. Thank you so much.
While living in Germany during the 70's, I spoke with my Hausfrau about this a little bit. She said that they knew something was happening, but wasn't really aware of what that was But, like most people at the time, she was afraid to be too curious. Not sure if that was a truthful answer or one of convenience.
Your 'Hausfrau'? Your wife?
I wept. Not just for the victims who suffered and were murdered but for the bystanders who murdered their own consciences and had to suffer a lifetime for it. Thank you.
I am not sure if this makes it better or worse, but most of these people didn´t suffer that much. Most of them simply forgot about it after the war, or they made up heroic stories about their own struggle with the Nazi regime that never happened. After the war, there was a running joke in France that went something like this: "Jaques? Yeah, he was in the Resistance. He´s been resisting since 1946."
Most crimes were eventually forgotten for the sake of political expedience. German generals were needed to provide expertise for rebuilding the German army after the war. For that reason, the Americans (who had captured many of the official records of the Third Reich) were happy to let them write their self-congratulatory memoirs that, for some mysterious reason, excluded all of the war crimes that they had comitted (most of which the Americans knew about). I really hope that Spartacus will do a special episode or series on the Nuremberg Trials, to show just how few of the criminals were punished in any way.
@@jirkazalabak1514Germany starved in both wars
@@jirkazalabak1514 I also hope/expect that they'll cover the Nuremberg trials.
@@KonradvonHotzendorf Which Germany started and where Germany was first to starve people in areas it captured!
@@gedeon2696 we needed the food
Thank you for making this. This is really important.
Excellent video and commentary.
The thing that should not be forgotten is that there WAS a real reason for the hatred. And that was that a group of people who'd had little to no success in private life and not wanting to accept responsibility for their own failures in life wanted to hoist blame onto people who'd done nothing to them... because it absolved the accuser of his/her own mistakes. In this... the real reason was about people not wanting to live in reality.
@@emcee768 - But that's just the latest iteration of things that spawned the antisemitism that led to the Holocaust. The specific target may be different... but it's still the same tactic to try and avoid reality.
That makes you one of the good ones. But I can assure you, many do view immigrants as anathema. I live in a multicultural society and yet still get bombarded day to day by fun reports of how this or that entitled executive makes really blase comments about how migrant workers are smelly, dirty, unsanitary and unwanted...
...this, when the local labour economy depends on them to even run.
This hatred comes from people who are so insecure that to feel worthy they 'bully' someone. Jews, blacks, homosexuals, the last goes on. Will we ever learn? I will never let people forget...
And to think that their decedents did the same things to other people nowadays.
It's tribalism. There is "us" and there is "the other" who are a threat to "us" because they are not one of us. Tale as old as time.
@@AlexSDUHistory reapet it self know your History to not commit the same horror and Error
I hope you cover the manila m@ssacre which took place during the last stages of the battle of manila in December 1944/January 1945. It is arguably the second nanking m@ssacre that is often overlooked.
Most destroyed city of the war, after Warsaw I believe.
Most destroyed capital city. There were other cities that got it as bad- Stalingrad for one.
The atrocities I mention in early February in the regular series (when they happen). That’s around when they’ll be covered here.
Damn Sparty. Thats how you convict bigots without personally attacking anyone group or side. Such gravitas and urgency is needed for these historical and current events.
My mother who was from Vienna always said never forget and never forgive! I agree. Who would forgive the people who murdered your mother and 23 other close relatives?
The Americans and the Russians, that's who.
Do some digging into the subject of post-war prosecutions. A pitifully small number of perpetrators were punished in any meaningful way. The Allies had documentary evidence, often written the their own hands, that could have seen convictions for literally thousands of SS. Nearly all of them were released, a handful served short prison sentences. All those judges and doctors, company directors and others who were involved with war crimes went happily back into their civilian lives......
The Americans and the West Germans decided it was best to 'move on' and the Cold War was beginning . They needed the scientists and the soldiers.
I can imagine many who were victims and survived must have crossed paths with these animals in later years. That must have been awful.
A very powerful episode. Thank you.
Even in the UK and US, there were many press articles on the horrors of the camps. Churchill and Roosevelt knew in detail from Ultra interceptions.
Actually, there isn't a single message about the extermination of anything but lice in the Enigma ( Ultra) transcripts. Not a peep. There is plenty of menusha. Idle gossip, people having extra marital affairs, etc. Nothing about the murder of non combatants. I'm sorry but it's true.
@@natethegreat6801 The Patron Saint of Brandy.
Keep shining the light on us, Sparty. It's so needed now. Thank you, thank you for the work you are doing! I hope Time Ghost and you continue to do these projects even "after the war."
In the present day - we still see certain individuals treated like gods - as Hitler was - without questioning their bizarre lies..
Indeed. See North Korea's Kim regime, or the Ayatollah regime in Iran.
Or even closer to home, where they are even more dangerous ... @@dragosstanciu9866
Or the MAGA crowd that worships Donald Trump like a god.@@dragosstanciu9866
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It is not a merely eastern phenomenon, and the Ayatollah is not a good example - those guys really like Mohammed, you mightve noticed.
@dragosstanciu9866 I was thinking of an American presidential candidate.
It's mostly due to differences in the subject matter, but you and Indy do very different things when you end your respective episodes with a rousing speach. Most, if not all, of the time, at the end of such a speach, Indy pauses, takes a breath, and adds an additional comment to drain off some of the tension and hint that maybe things are not quite as bad as they might appear. You, and this series, on the other hand, make your weekly summation of the week's events and their implications on all of us today without offering any relief. Only the admonition to Never Forget!
Great narration.
Many years ago there was a sweet lady in our church who was from Vienne. Her first husband and I think one son died in the war..later she met a GI and ended up over here. She told us many times that people knew what was going on, they were just too scared to talk about it.
Thank you for sharing as always in this episode of the War Against Humanity.
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Thank you for reminding me about the power of words and thoughts.
brutal but great video. we need more history in all our lives. keep it up guys. love your vids and channel.
The allies also knew about the holocaust and still didnt even try to bomb the specific train rails.
Thank you for this series, it is very painful to watch, but I think that is necessary for everyone to watch it.
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Thank you for the lesson.
Thanks for the video
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Well, all I have been told by my Grandma, her Father was bullied into entering the NSDAP during the early war and threatened with the qhole family being shipped off to Concentration Camp should he resist. So, for the threat to work at least some knowledge what the Camps were and what being sent there meant was very well known.
Where was your grandfather from? His story doesn’t quite fit what “German Germans” faced. However, German speaking people in the annexed territories, “foreign Germans” so to say, faced that sort of treatment, but in the Altreich (old Reich) that sort of thing was very rare. Check this video or for the relationship between the general German population and the Nazis:
The Myth of the Nazi Police State - WW2 Documentary Special
czcams.com/video/oEs3hMp60JM/video.html
@@spartacus-olsson You are right, he could be a so-called "Volkdeutsch". Here in Hungary too during the occupation it was a problem for the Nazis to handle the Hungarian Germans because while some of them joined Nazi organizations most of them were offended by them becuase they indentified themself as Hungarian Germans whose home is Hungary, not Germany. It is a huge tragedy that the postwar government honored their patriotism with massed deportation. I hope that at the end of the war you will talk about the so-called "population exchanges" which were ethnic cleansing in disguise.
@@erikturnar6466"Savage Continent" is a fairly recent book that describes the scenario that you mentioned.
My grandfather took my father to the dock in Havana Cuba when the ships of Jews were denied entry into the US before the war.
Well done. Thank you.
I forgot to say that you and Indy are fantastic. I watch every week. I have seen all of your ,between two wars episodes. Priceless. Dave in Sierra Vista AZ
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Thank you!
Keep telling the true stories of history. Excellent work.
This year WW2 ends in your series and thus your great documentation work. I wish you would just continue documenting abuses of humanity all over the earth, week after week, until our day.👍👍👍
Everyone will continue with a project similar to what they did until the end of the war. Stay tuned! And Never Forget. -TimeGhost Ambassador
When you speak of prisoners clearing bombed terrain it reminds me memories I read. It was terrifying experience. Allies were dropping some bombs not exploding when hitting the ground, but instead they "hid" in ground with timer set to unknown, to go off when people went back to ruined buildings. Prisoners were sent in pairs with shovel and ordered to dig for 10 minutes. Then they were released and next pair replaced them. It was done until they found the fuse of the bomb and removed it or until bomb exploded. Probably you can't imagine what was happening inside prisoners' minds, especially that they know Germany is losing the war and you can be killed by Allied bomb. I could have messed up the details (maybe they did than in small groups, not pairs and in slightly different timeline), but that was general picture from these memories. Thanks Sparty and all the Team for this series.
As a person of German heritage this brought me to tears
This will likely earn me a lot of flak. But I'll post it anyway. In my youth I flirted with right wing extremism.
I read Mein Kampf. I bought into this rhetoric of hatred. This longing to blame something, someone for my pain and suffering.
Anything but look inwards.
I've grown since then. Since my teenage years. I've met people from allover Europe because of my work.
Spaniards, Poles, Germans and Swedes to name a few. And I came to the conclusion that they were me and I them.
There was no grand difference between us. Nothing that made me more then them. So all this hatred I bought into was for naught.
All this supposed wisdom I learned turned out to be bull. The truth is;
"None of us know truly what brought us to where we are now. But we can learn by listening. And by caring"
Never forget.
I don't think that should earn you any flak, if anything it should earn your praise. It's hard to deradicalize harder still to kind of make those realizations on your own. Meeting people and getting a diverse experience is definitely a powerful tool to help deradicalize people. I'm proud of you for taking that step and for living a life of more connection and humanity instead of hatred because the latter can feel more cathartic and easy than the former which takes patience and compassion. Good for you
Teenagers buy into all kinds of crazy stuff. Most of us would have ended up Nazi-supporters if we'd been teenagers in 1930s Germany.
Thanks a lot for your comment @Tyear, in fact, as @tavenstrickert9658 puts it: congratulations. Never Forget. -TimeGhost Ambassador
I commend you for having the mental strength to lift yourself out of a hateful rut. Most people cannot do that and remain stuck in their ways.
Hate is the easy straight road but will not bring peace and happiness.
You only can be human through other humans, no matter of race, nationality or religion.
Congratulations you found the hard and winding road 😊
Thank you Spartacus and TimeGhost. The facts and the figures are soul destroying as, yet again, you deliver an excellent portrayal of heartbreak on a monumental scale. A sobering dose of reality but an essential one nevertheless. As for today's troubles and conflicts, is there a distant light at the end of the tunnel? I would like to think so but I am not sure.
Wow that's powerful stuff. Brilliantly narrated..
Love the content! Keep it comin'!
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This was a very emotional episode, thankyou for the brilliant work this channel does.
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Watching now before CZcams gets their hands on it
Wow! very powerful report Spartacus!! The infamous "ve did not know" is very tiresome. The school teacher who called out the towns people claiming they didn't know the "zebras" were being starved and tortured in the local camps deserves credit for at least coming clean about knowledge of the atrocities. You are so right about hate showing its ugly head, we are teaching it in our highly esteemed universities. "Never forget" has never seemed so appropriate.
Never again is now. Excellent but shocking episode. Thanks
Never forget. Never again.
Not even now.
Never again ✊🇩🇪
Thank you, Spartacus and Time Ghost Crew, for another excellent, hard, but necessary WAH installment. Thanks especially for the debunking of myths. While the war winds down to its end and this excellent companion series comes to its close, I admit to looking forward to a reprieve from all the suffering. However, I suppose it would be naive to assume the road gets easier and that the scars won't last.
Excellent presentation. I am a regular watcher of WW II in real time but have generally not watched this series as it is too depressing. But I thought this one had an important message I needed to hear. I like your coverage of War Crimes by all participants in the War. In an environment where murder on a grand scale is encouraged, it always happens that other restrains of civilization also disappear. Your admonition at the end is especially pertinent to all of us. If we are not actively working to stop Crimes Against Humanity, then we are helping it. If in no other way than our toleration of it means we approve it.
WW2 in real-time covers the ugly face of war.
War against humanity covers the dark soul of war.
Both series complement eachother.
Thanks for doing this work. Its hard to watch but im sure its even worse research.
thank you for your meticulous work
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Of COURSE they knew, at least by and large! I've done a lot of Q and A, casually, with older German folk over the decades. The very best response I heard was from an every day kind of guy who looked deeply into my eyes and said, "We knew. We hated it all. We knew we'd all pay a price for Hitler. But tell me, what could I DO?" I had no sane answer for him. It wasn't like you could cut up a cardboard box, staple it to a stick, write DOWN WITH HITLER on it and go protest! Well, maybe you COULD but only for about 30 seconds.
And that my friend is all to it in a situation like that.
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@@user-ll2dd9vv9yI wish that was entirely true… in my many discussions with veterans, and German civilians who lived through this, another more disconcerting pattern repeated itself, often with deep regret and remorse: it was easy to not care, because it was happening to “them” - the Jews - and even if people may have found the excesses of the Nazis abhorrent, many of them simultaneously thought that it wasn’t totally undeserved - that “they” had brought this on themselves to some degree.
Also, that draconian Nazi police state holding the German people in fearful check is a myth. Watch this: The Myth of the Nazi Police State - WW2 Documentary Special
czcams.com/video/oEs3hMp60JM/video.html
Also, I have to say that I hope like hell you're getting the help you need to get you through reading and recording this material. I can't even imagine not sobbing myself to sleep reading some of this. >.
Thank you Spartacus, you words are priceless
thank you for sharing. This has to be told again and again.
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There was only 2 options for Germans, Praise it, or pretend ignorance.
Any criticism will risk an up close first hand observation of what was really going on.
Oh, and Google is concerned this video may contain "misinformation" for some reason.
The idea that Germans were repressed into silence is a myth. Watch this: The Myth of the Nazi Police State - WW2 Documentary Special
czcams.com/video/oEs3hMp60JM/video.html
Yes they did know, l was married to a German in the area of Celle close to Bergen - Belsen
My in-laws told me so.
They even had a hunt ( by civilians) for Jews who had escaped from a train on the way to the camp
It is called the Hasen Jacht they killed quite a few with hunting rifles.
The Germans who were not involved in the fighting lived the life of Riley throughout the war.
My last job as a soldier in the British army was to drive high ranking officers and diplomats to Belsen and show them the memorial and Musium
It has since been updated, worth a visit.
I also knew people in the Hannover area who were imprisoned there , they were gipsys and all had tattoos, a number on there arms.
They absolutely loved us and always showed so much respect, for years they gave my wife and I presents for Christmas. That is now over 40 years ago. Much love and respect to all the Jewish people etc . The world can never pay you back, for the way you have been treated throughout history.
“Be stong and have courage” she had more courage than I can possibly fathom!
The BBC did a very in depth documentary about Auschwitz many years ago and they claimed that the German state eg gestapo required the help of the public to function . They needed the public to make a lot of the initial calls ( ie there is a Jewish family living here , come for them ) . They did interview a lot of people concerning this subject and most people freely admitted they were so brainwashed at the time they thought they were doing the right thing . Not only did people do it for “Germany” a lot of people could see a way of making money by getting rid of people then robbing their homes .
I would definitely recommend this BBC series about Auschwitz to anyone who would like to learn more . It goes from its construction to modern days but obviously this can be very unsettling to watch
it's the bbc mate, of course they will tell history how they please
Hi Spartacus another of your importent lectures, keep on!👍👍👍
What a ‘beautiful’ conclusion. You are so right sir. Thank you for voicing it in the name of humanity and history.
Thank you for the kind words.
@@WorldWarTwo Keep up the good work!
The ending was particularly heavy. I think this was Sparty's most emotional ending speech yet. Good work Sparty and team! Never Forget!
Thanks for your kind words.
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Thank you so much. That's all I have.
I think the end of this video is among the best that Sparty and the team have done. It's so easy to be smug, and pretend that we are better than previous generations when it comes to hate, bigotry and willful ignorance of the suffering of others. We're all guilty of it, and that should be a rallying cry to be better, to challenge ourselves to not ignore suffering because it's far away, or of a different people, or because 'they deserve it'.
Well said.
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This was an important video with a strong message at the end!
Love from Germany🇩🇪❤
Nothing compares to the echo of a world of deaf ears. Falsehoods never die of old age, they have to be fought at every occurrence. As much as there is strength in those who spread hate, surely there is enough strength to fight for peace and love.