The Allied Rape Wave of 1944 - War Against Humanity 116
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- Since the earliest days of humanity, where there has been war, there has been rape. This war is no different. As vast armies battle across Europe, the chaos in their wake breeds an epidemic of rape. In its action and its punishment the European rape wave is also highly racialised. It adds up to a storm of suffering.
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This is always a hard topic to cover. Recent events in Ukraine and Israel show that rape is still used as a weapon of war and terror. Unfortunately, this darkest side of human nature still seems all too ready to emerge.
A total lack of morality in my opinion. Something to be rooted out and punished severely.
It's hard to press "like" on this video, but it's such an important topic.
Thank you for all that you do in covering the awfulness of war. Never forget.
Watching these videos is super hard and depressing. I cannot imagine how difficult it is to write, produce, and film them. Kudos.
I disagree that this is a side of human nature, those whom indulge in such crimes against all laws, morality and to humanity as a whole, have long forfeited their "human" status. There is only one way to deal with those lesser-than-animal-beings.
In the current war in Ukraine there are images of soldiers wearing the Dirlewanger Unit symbol (two crossed stick grenades) as patches on their uniforms (among other SS symbols). I wouldn't say that's human nature in the sense of an instinct, urge or force a human cannot resist but it's a willing disregard of human life and also of history.
Spartacus- thank you for acknowledging that men are also violated during war. I am an RN and work in a psych ER in a major city in the US (Los Angeles) and there are zero, 0, zilch resources for men who have been attacked. Even worse, there is little to no empathy either.
There was a series of sexual assaults in my platoon in Iraq. Every one of them were male on male.
What does Zilch mean?
@@trattoretrattore8228 "None" or "Zero."
Trust me buddy, I know
@@Red_FourI thank God I never had such an incident under my watch as an NCO.
Rape being a disturbing but ever-present fact about warfare is something that ought to be talked about more, though the typical online military history nerd probably doesn't care that much. Your coverage throughout the war has been really sobering and appreciated.
Addressing difficult and often overlooked topics like this is vital for a comprehensive understanding of war's true costs. Thank you for watching and never forget.
What also should be talked about is why even today African American are 4x more likely to commit rape and murder.....? FBI statistics.
In my experience it's mostly brought up when it can be used to dehumanize "the other", much like it was used during the wars themselves to dehumanize the enemy in propaganda.
What makes me most angry is that these crimes generally went unpunished. Sickening.
when the soviet did actually punish these crimes, they listed the deaths into the black book of communism, pretty funny stuff
It's truly distressing to realize the extent of injustice and impunity during wartime.
Or peacetime
@@WorldWarTwoI agree wholeheartedly. At this point, the Allied soldiers responsible for such atrocities were no better than the Nazis.
Emmett Till’s father was hanged for committing several of these crimes.
When i was a child, i didnt like birthdays or holidays in my grandparents house. Because they and all of their friends were from former german areas in the east. And every time when they drank enough alcohol they talked about beeing raped as young kids, tortured, loosing parents and sibblings. Like it was some kind of their group therapy. I was to young to understand all of this but i felt every time pure dark sadness. And this is why i cant start this episode.
I can only imagine how jaded they must have been to not realize the damage they're causing. Big hug to you 🙂
I am sorry for you. The horrors of this war scarred even those, such as yourself, who did not experience it.
As a child you had needs. These were not respected. You have every right to feel angry sad vengeful even to those you love the most.Though you may choose not to express it. That's wht Ilearned k about o5 years of psych]ohherapy for a lot less frauma than you had... All the best
this episode, while rough, was absolutely necessary, the war crime nobody talks about put on display for the world to see. I wanna give props to all of you who worked on this episode, I imagine it wasn’t easy. Keep up the good work, You guys are awesome.
Thank you for your thoughtful comment, we're committed to presenting the complete picture, no matter how challenging the subject. Never forget.
I appreciate so much how this series doesn't shy away from Allied war crimes and atrocities while also managing to not "flip the script" per se as to try to be sympathic in any way to the definitive bad guys of the war, the Axis. It's too often you hear about the very real and documented crimes comitted by Allied soldiers but only as a means of trying to paint a different picture of the war as a whole by nefarious actors with an agenda. This series is just the history as it was and I wouldn't have it any other way.
Thank you so much World War Two team. This series, espcially War Against Humanity, is a massive undertaking and seeing the superb quality get better and better through the years has been an honor.
Many humble thanks for taking time to write this comment - in all our names I feel honored.
War crimes aside, why is one side the bad side?
@@MudHut67 I'll answer your question from a personal perspective instead of just a historical one. I'm an LGBTQ+ individual. I needn't say more about why I see the Axis (specifically Nazi Germany) as the baddies I think. 😂
Well bloody said my friend 👊💛👍
@@MudHut67 Fascist aggression and invasions in Europe (and the Japanese military dictatorship in Asia) tends to make people pissed. But you can’t say war crimes aside. The Holocaust is one of the most significant atrocities in human history, maybe only outnumbered by murders in the massacres in China and other Asian territories the Japanese held. There is no amount of apologetics that can say either regime was a positive.
Rape has got to be the worst thing ever to happen to the victim
Really?
@@drivethruabortion280it can be the worst depending on how badly you're attacked. And from what I've heard the Russians not only did that to the women but also beat them severely and killed their husbands right in front of their faces in some extremely brutal ways. And sometimes the Red Army soldiers did the same to elderly women. And did it so badly that they died in the process. And they didn't care who watched. There were children, and in some cases the soldiers even attacked them.
These were first hand accounts that I speak of.... The Red Army were not liberators. They were evil.... Sadly, the German soldiers were actually the only thing keeping Eastern Europe safe during WW2. But the allies destroyed them and their country and handed half of Europe over to a maniac with an army full of maniacs at his disposal for half a century. And tens of millions of innocent people died because of it.
"We defeated the wrong enemy"
A quote by Gen. George S. Patton once he saw what the Red Army was doing and how they were treating the innocent civilians as they came in through East Berlin and also into parts of Eastern Germany towards the end of the war.
@@gimmethepinkelephant3685And Patton was also just a Nazi lover racist pig lol so no surprise he said that !
It is so important to acknowledge this crime in the war. My grandfathers sister was raped when the Red Army occupied Vienna. I did not learn this until more than 10 years after her death. She was probably in the family home on the outskirts of the city, together with her mother and aunt, who must have been in their late sixties and probably some of her sisters. I don't know, if she "sacrificed" herself to save the other women or if she was chosen because she was young (in her early 30s). But this explains, why she was never married and probably loved animals more than humans.
@@huiyinghong3073Because the Soviet Union was itself a brutal authoritarian dictatorship. On their worst days, they weren't any better than the fascists they fought against. From the very beginning, the USSR's goal has been to liquidate Eastern Europe and conquer (I mean, "liberate") it for themselves. Poland despises both Nazis and Communists for a reason. The Germans and Russians both went door-to-door to torture, rape, murder, and deport to camps/gulags as they saw fit. The Eastern Front was something different, man...
Thank you @scoffls.
An element of WW2 that rarely comes to light. Thank you for shining a light into the darkest aspects of human nature
It's an element of every war from the dawn of time. Sadly, civilization doesn't seem to have done much to make human behavior more civilized.
germans got away with it way too easy with what they have done, they got raped only less than 2 milion while soviets had raped 10 milions, and germans started it so well deserved, but definitely not enough
Thank you for watching, never forget.
According to eye-witnesses, one of the victims of the "marocchinate" was a priest who tried to stop a sexual violence and was in turn r-ped by multiple Goumiers. The local population was later saved by Canadian or New Zealenders troops (do not recall) who stopped the Goumiers with the threat of guns.
As a Hungarian, I remember growing up my parents telling me about the war, how my grandmother was kept in a cupboard when the Russians came. How our village was fought over during the end of the war for Soviets to "liberate" us by burning crops and stealing everything that wasn't nailed down. Even today I feel there is some intergenerational trauma.
Yup, the Soviets did this their entire march to Berlin. Hence why so many Germans civilians fled to get to the American side of the line.
And yet, so many have seem to have forgotten, by voting in Pro-Russian Victor Orban
It's not just intergenerational, it carries through to the genetic level. Fascinating and devastating at the same time.
And Russians now cry about "NATO expansion"
@@orcho141Orban isn’t pro Russian. He’s pro Hungarian. And quite rightly realises the war is against his nations interests and so won’t go along with it like all the other puppets in Europe. Remember in Ukraine they used the ethnic Hungarians are cannon fodder first. Parts of Ukraine are majority Hungarian and the Ukrainian neo nazis treat them awfully
In the Aftermath of WW2, both of my Grandmother's had been threatened by sovjet would be rapists. My older Grandma Who passed away a few years ago was looking for quater with her mother in 1945. An innkeeper told them all his quarters hade been taken by a sovjet Unit, but they could sleep with the soldiers. Said units commander overheared this, said it was unacceptable and gave them his quater while he would stay with his men to keep them in line.
My other Grandma helped in hiding a potential Rape victim in her room and talking down the young sovjet soldier, a 20 to 22 years old with PTSD. He completely broke down and told them under tears how the Nazis had killed all of his Family...
Never forget. I definitely never will.
Realy???😂😂😂😂😂😂
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why do you describe the first event as a "threat by a would-be rapist." The officer sounds like a proper gentleman. That second event is quite tragic all around.
@@Dastardly1 by the acount of my late grandmother, it was quite clear at that time for all woman around the area what could happen if sovjet soldiers appeared on the scene unchecked. So the probability of sexual assault was quite high, therefore my wording.
HOWEVER it was not always the case and there are quite a number of events sovjet soldiers conducted themselves formidable. Spartacus and Indy gave us all plenty of content in that matter.
I am quite thankful my grandparents told me so much about their war experiences, because many people of their generation have chosen to remain silent about it. Maybe PTSD, maybe shame, maybe something different. I am still thankful for it.
Thank you for covering this very serious subject. As serious as it is, every time I read about sexual assault in the war, I think of my grandfather and I have to smile a guilty smile for this reason:
My grandfather on my mother's side was an immigrant from Sicily who came to the US (New Jersey) as a very small kid. He ended up seeing Sicily again when he was there to invade it. He ended up being sent to help with the locals because he spoke the dialect perfectly. One of the stories he would always tell was of the time he and another soldier stumbled onto a drunken soldier from The Deep South (grandpa could tell from his accent) who was trying to commit a sexual assault. His attempted victim? A villager's *donkey* . They pulled him off the attempted victim and a fight ensued and the drunk GI ended up getting roughed up. They didn't report the incident, and the attempted victim apparently never came forward and spoke to the authorities, either. Well into his old age, if he ever had a disagreement or altercation with someone from the South, he would refer to them as a "donkey F ^^^^^^!" and go into that story.
Over 20 years after his death, and I still miss that crazy old Sicilian.
This is a part of the war that is hardly or rarely even told at all. Thank you Sparty & team for covering this War Against Humanity episode as always.
Thank you for watching and thank you for the kind comment.
Your account of what happened in Italy brings to mind the 1961 film "Two Women." Great comment at the end that sex should not be forced on others by violence in war or elsewhere, but to "give ourselves wholehearted to another human being."
The least thing women should do for men in times of war, is to give themselves wholeheartedly to the soldiers, so that they don't have to rape them instead.
My Grand-Mere was in occupied France (Normandy). She served with the reistance and I have seen the letters of thanks for the lives of downed airmen she saved. She detested the Germans, but one concession she gave them was the relative rarity of rape conducted by German troops in the area she lived in, together with the severe punishment to those found guilty. However, in her own words, When the allies arrived, thankful as she was, she wondered whether the Americans in particular, were issuing medals for rape.
@@howardj602 yup. all quite correct. We know the war on the Eastern Front had a far less humane aspect and both sides were pretty ruthless and barbaric as a matter of course.
@@howardj602 Oh well that changes everything doesn't it... LOL!
Bit defensive there.
Hello there, I believe there is a slight confusion here about the eastern (Soviet/URSS) and western (Allies) fronts. Just a kind reminder to keep it friendly with everyone here (not specifically to one person) ^^ Otherwise, thanks for your involvment in the comment section ! -TimeGhost Ambassador
Don't forget to donate people. There is no way youtube will let this stand. As someone who was once raped myself his words captured the horror of it and what it means. In the least bad case it takes a part of life that should be all good and makes it traumatic forever.
I dont think the backlash for censoring such an important topic will be a good idea for them, but CZcams is not known for its consistency in logic
@@Tidalkiller I wish you were right. YT has censored all kinds of history. CZcams hates history.
Bless you . 💛
@@TidalkillerThey won't do it intentionally, they let algorithms run the whole site and whatever the algorithm says goes. And the algorithm hates grim topics.
i am so sorry to hear that such a devastating thing happened in your life. i think it is one of the worst things that can happen to a person. i can't imagine how awful you must feel. it takes so much courage to even mention. i wish you the best in every way. i hope so much that you can heal.
One of the best presentations on the topic I have ever seen. The comments made in the last minute drive the impact of the topic home.
When Antony Beevor was writing his book "Berlin" his research assistant, a Russian woman, was working through the Soviet archives and encountered so much documentation on the Red Army's propensity towards rape that she had a nervous breakdown.
The passage towards the end of the book, about the husband and wife barricading their door with a dresser, only to have it beaten in, and the man being brutalized and helpless as his wife is gang raped in front of him, is the stuff of horrors. Most of us live in a very genteel modernity for sure
Did that book talk about the Germans raping, killing and pillaging those countries? Not saying it is right, but all the SS did to them for 4 years how would you expect them to act? Do you have any idea how it feels when you mom was taken for slave labor your brother's killed and sisters raped, killed or enslaved?? All of the millions of Soviet POWs the Nazi's allowed to starve to death. Yes,the Soviets were quite pissed and blood thirsty by the time they came to the Germany but it is not
@@Gnosis639 the book is trash. I have it, and is the meaning of being biased. Also the "sources" are a joke, half of the rape statistics are based on the testimony of a single doctor in an specific town.....
@@Gnosis639 guilt is always individual and not collective.
@@Gnosis639 What could those German women do about that? The majority of Berlin did not even vote for Hitler. They were victims as well.
I read J. Robert Lilly's "Taken By Force" and it's one of the most disturbing things I've ever read.
Thank you for making a video on this topic. Rape in war is something that is treated more like an unfortunate footnote in the annals of history. WAH has a lot of videos that I believe should be shown on a greater scale to make every adult understand the worst places we can fall. This is one of the most important of them. Never forget.
Exactly. Rape isn't some footnote to war, it's part and parcel to the entire experience. If you're a warmonger, you're also a rapemonger. It's simply inseparable. Even if your side does it less, it WILL happen. War ain't glorious, it's the absolute worst...
Good on You Sparty! A difficult topic well covered. This is the best look at this war! Keep up the great work. A Fan from Aus!
This episode hitted hard as it should be. This aspect of the war is very often forgot in the middle of the numbers from battles and offensives, while we forget we're talking about humans lives, people with names, aspirations, dreams and loved ones. Thanks to all the team in time ghost history for having such sensibility and helping the world to never forget.
It's essential to remember that real people suffered through these dark times. Thank you for the comment and thank you for watching.
My friend's mother was almost raped by an American soldier in Germany, but fortunately he was stopped.
Yet some still believe that serving in uniform makes one a hero. Armies everywhere have always been at least partially populated with dirt bags; some more than others.
I'm glad it was preempted.
@@Grenadier311 Armies are made up from people in the human race, so there will always be issues. I worked with a friend who was in the military and I think everyone who leaves the military has to go through a deprogramming process that lasts around a month. Because soldiers are kept at a heightened state.
Your doing humanity a great service making these videos Spartacus, thank you from Canada 🇨🇦 ❤
I cannot emphasize enough how important your work is. Thank you.
There are many, many videos on CZcams about WW2. Many are good.
This was very powerful, on an underdiscussed topic. Very well done. Thank you.
An absolutely amazing episode - well written, well stated. Great work, Spartacus ;)
Really well researched topic. The most detailed I've ever seen in regards to the Second World War. Great work guys.
The value of the topic and the way you treat is something does should be applause. Thank you a lot for never forgetting.
This is a difficult but important topic to discuss.
But I can't see CZcams taking kindly to this one, and its unfortunate because some conversations need to be in the public sphere.
Huh? What are you talking about?@@Skeens55
CZcams algorithm bot is having aneurysm right now
muy bueno!!
That last soliloquy was the best way to describe trauma I ever heard!
Thank you Spartacus for this outstanding episode and the very emphatic narration.
A few years back I read Antony Beevor's Berlin: The Downfall, and the rape cases described in that were frankly the most horrifying thing I have ever imagined. Obviously there's a lot of that to go around in WW2 like the Holocaust etc, but this was stuff that as a kid reading history you never got exposed to (which is understandable). As a male, reading what other males did and that they were even able to rationalise it, and that they were probably even good men before the war, is a terrifying prospect of what we could/can become when everything has fallen apart...
Keep it up World War Two Channel, and have a cup of tea or something nice after all this. It doesn't lift the pain of researching and presenting it, but it can't hurt.
Thank You 🙏 for bringing this topic to Light.
Thank you for watching.
I am glad you talked about the "Marocchinate" since we in italy barely acknowledged crimes committed by the partisans or the allies like this ones, especially in common media.
War brings out the worst in humanity
Thats why Germany shouldnt be made democratic after WWI.
Thank you for shining a light on this topic. I can only imagine how difficult this was to research.
Never forget.
Thank you for watching.
Rape is truely horrific. I have experienced it but I was young and don't remember much. It is the worst crime anyone can commit against another person. I struggle to forgive anyone who has ever commited it and I struggle to know what to do once someone admits it has happned. I freeze up and feel violently ill, I can't think straight and I want to cry. I hope in future we find ways to reduce acts of and prosicute this horrific crime. It should be talked about more, both in war and in civilian life. It is not shameful to be a victim of it as same as it isn't shameful to be victim of any crime or form of violence. I wish everyone a sound mind and protection from this horrific crime. And I wish victims justice and healing.
I don't think this one's gonna be monetized.
This episode’s conclusion speech made me weep. TY.
That conclusion was amazingly well done.
I once read about some German files, that were from Bavaria. They had reports of woman and children, that were brutally raped by Allied soldiers at the end of the war, and after that: the youngest girl involved was only 7 years old, and the oldest woman was reported to have been at least 69.
I know this video is going to receive a strike but it is much needed. Thank you TimeGhost
Shush... but it's the truth.
Thank you very much for watching.
Thank you for this well researched Video.
This was a hard watch, but as always brilliantly presented and written.
As always, and as it should be, the War Against Humanity is painful, disgusting and maddening to watch. Good job is done by you if your series evokes these feelings in us because it is only by the people of today confronting the sins of yesterday that the World will be made to Never Forget! Thank you Sparty!
I appreciate the ability of this series to provide color to history. I often feel that historical accounts of grand scale events like ww2 can washout the individual experiences of the millions of people involved. Thank you for the work you all have done to show us not only the history but also the human experience of this war, especially of the people who became victims of events far beyond their control. Never Forget
Spartacus,your world class oratory skills bring this front and center.
Thank you for doing the hard part,actually saying what must be said,least we forget,I for one…… never will.
Oceans of tears fill our history and still the tides rise.each one of us all must remember.
Well put together episode, thank you.
Thank you for watching.
Thank you covering this. The rape is still a weapon used on daily in places like Democratic Republic of Congo. Given that it is a place, where the vast majority of minerals that go into our phones go to, not many are interested in talking about it.
Watch it there, Skippy.
Yes, the irony we use our devices to continue esoteric arguments about the morality of past atrocities.
The more recent the atrocity, the less we want to discuss it.
And the fact that they are African
That country that uses those minerals to assemble all the phones still uses it as a form of torture too.....
@@JonnoHR31 The work conditions at TSMC in Taiwan factories aren't that bad. They don't care where the raw materials come from however.
Really excellent episode sparty. Great writing and delivery of a very hard topic not covered often. Just goes to show how great of an education resource this series is becoming for years to come 👏
I wish I could agree but I don't. An educational resource must have all rerenvces and sources tied fdowemn andweasi;uyn evident.. that just isn't what this series is. It ids sa presentattiom of a summary of history.
A chiold or morev likel;uu mn adoplescenbt mikght well be inspired by it.. U ut it could never be quoyrted ion a essay beyond high school.
ppesonal oppinion
Hard to watch and even harder to listen to but a very important topic. I am happy you never shy away from the hard topics.
That was a powerful summation.
Thank you for the content warning, this was hard to take.
Spartacus's final words are so powerful, moving and true. The War against humanity series is the most important part of this whole channel. I am saddened that is demonetised and not encouraged
We need that last paragraph at the end of every closing argument in every rape trial in the world. Like, yesterday.
Thank You Sparty, this could not have been easy to do and it needed to be covered, just thank you .. Never Forget
I know researching left a wound on your soul, thank you for giving these victim a voice.... so we never forget... Thank yall for what yall do at The Time Ghost team.
My grandmother as a young girl would always hide from japanee soldiers. If she was by any chance outside and japanese soldiers were spotted, they would find places to hide like in ditches, drains, sewers, any hole they can hide into.
pretty excellent video as always
This is a very hard topic to cover. Thank you for your hard work
Great Video as always ❤
Those last words spoken were well formulated to bring over that absolute horror all the victims faced.
Thank you very much for having covered this subject.
That was the most starkly poignant conclusion of the whole series so far. A masterpiece of pathos and empathy. Thank you, Brother Spartacus
Thank you, Sparty and crew.
My father-in-law (RIP) was a young man in Larino, Italy, during WW2.
They were occupied for a while by the German army. Dad said the Germans would leave you alone if you left them alone (although they would be incredibly harsh if you messed with them). This isn't surprising, since Italy was a German ally for most of the war. As everyone knows, citizens of conquered countries and Jews in Italy often had a different experience with the Germans.
Then Larino was occupied by Canadians for a while. He said the Canadians were not as disciplined in leaving civilians alone. Regrettable but also not surprising, as they'd been at war with each other for over four years by then. He said two Canadians raped a Larino woman... and were afterwards killed by unnamed Larino men.
None of this stopped my father-in-law from moving to Canada in the 1950s, and becoming a proud Canadian citizen.
My father a teenager at the time descibed a similar account of a british soldier harassing women in the tiny village he ended up over a cliff barely surving .
So much heartbreak so far in this story, and now this. What an excellent script and delivery by Spartacus, but I dont know if I am going to make it to the end of this war💔
The war brought unimaginable hardship and heartbreak. Thank you for watching what you can.
Saw the Sophia Loren movie Two women last night. Her and her daughter get raped by the Morroccan soldiers. Thanks to this video for putting into context. Thanks Sparty for this memorable video series!
Yeah..one more reason to be racist against Moors...
Thank you for covering such a difficult topic. I'm sure the algorithm has buried it, but these discussions are so, so important.
Thank you so much and thanks for watching!
Big thanks for covering this. Some people want to sweep it under the rug with the tired excuse "if we discuss it people might derail the conversation and turn to nazism." I've found that the fact that it has been swept under the rug, and isn't talked about, has been the cause to a lot of people to fall down the rabbit hole. Never forget.
History is about presenting the complete story, both the triumphs and the tragedies. By addressing and discussing these difficult topics openly, we hope to foster understanding and hope to see them never happen again. Thank you for watching.
The Soviet War Memorial in Treptower Park in Berlin, built to commemorate the Red Army soldiers killed in the battle for the city, was colloquially referred to by locals as "The Tomb of the Unknown Rapist."
Не надо было вторгаться и убивать, насиловать и уводить в рабство наших, советских, людей. Чертовы вы лицемеры.
@@Shelbovsky Who are you calling a hypocrite? I am not German. I don't even have any German ancestors.
That memorial should be ripped out
@@frakismaximus3052Germans probably find it a useful reminder for what happens when you follow a messiah.
@@mnemonijalike trump?
Great video.
Painful to watch.
But necessary.
Thank you.
I am speechless about your speech... And I will never forget...
This is by far, the darkest episode made by this channel.
So far.
not even close
Thank you shedding light on this in advance
Spartacus, Your ending comments gave a heart-wrenching, and more descriptive image of the result of rape than I have ever heard.
Thank you for making this video. I remember leaving a comment on a previous WAH asking if you would cover it. And you replied back.
I first heard about these rapes across France from a CZcams comment on a WW2 documentary I watched years ago.
The commenter said, "100k French women were raped during the liberation of France. With tens of thousands of women having unplanned pregnancies. Most of those babies were dropped off at orphanages."
How the she over-inflates such stats versus what you showed in the video, gives me head scratches.
A tough matter that is very challenging to present to an audience, but once again you did a great job here in my opinion. Thank you.
Thank you for watching.
Again, one of the best WAH episodes I've ever seen. That's some really heavy shit. It's not an easy topic to cover. You guys are really on a run lately with these WAH episodes. The Axis empire shrinks every single day. They lose territory, they lose power, but SOMEHOW this war just gets crazier and crazier. It's like a desperate, terrified wild beast that's been cornered and has nowhere left to run, so it bares its fangs and fights to the bitter end. It reminds me of that quote from Joseph Goebbels, something like "If some day we are compelled to leave the scene of history, we will slam the door so hard that the universe will shake." I fear what a terrifying crescendo will await us in 1945.
You are great channel and War against humanity is important series
With each episode of World War 2 in real time, from the War Against Humanity series to covering it week by week, all can easily see that no one's hands are clean.
This channel has covered this time in history without bias to either side of the war, and covered many things with each day that was never taught in school.
Neville Chamberlain's words do have meaning despite his efforts of appeasement before the war.
"In war, whichever side may call itself the victor, there are no winners, but all are losers."
I love this channel and look forward to continuing to see this till the end.
This episode has brought a lot to think about.
I'm not sure that this quote could be applied to all accused of this crime, but maybe it does...
"Innocentia Nihil Probat"
It is a sad quote. Whether proven innocent or not there is a punishment for all for rape.
Chamberlain is often accused of naivety but what many don't know is that he was the director of national service in the UK during WWI. He had overall responsibility for recruiting hundreds of thousands of men, many of whom were slaughtered on the Western Front. In fact, he was in Paris on government business when the British army suffered 60000 casualties on the first day of the Battle of the Somme approximately a hundred miles away.
Chamberlain understood the human cost of war which is why he went to such great lengths in attempting to prevent another.
I think things like this just happened last week.
Finally you've covered the Marocchinate...thank so much for this!
Bro 😂😂😂😂
Unbiased, factual and straight to the point! Well done!
How can you forget? It happened 10,000 times today.
Annifrid Lingstadt is the result of such a liaison.
She sang as a member of ABBA.
Her father was German, she was fathered during the occupation of Norway. Wasn’t that a consensual relationship though? I though she was in contact with her German father and his family in Germany after the war at some stage …. Pretty sure I read that somewhere… I thought she and her mother moved to Sweden because they feared negative consequences as it was known that her mother had a relationship with a German, and a child with a German….
@@Lorenz1973 She only met her father in 1975. She saw her resemblance to him by their noses.
Either way, consensual or not, SS Reichsfuehrer Heinrich Himmler encouraged SS officers to engage in intercourse with women white enough to pass as "Aryan."
She is now known as Princess Anni-Frid Reuss, Dowager Countess of Plauen. She currently lives in Switzerland.
Thank you for doing this. Impossible topic to cover. The vast vast majority of these crimes are conducted due to leadership weakness or are actually encouraged by leadership.
Thank you for this episode. This is one of the most honest videos about one of the most difficult and controversial subjects of humanity.
Thank you for watching, never forget.
Despite the difficulty of the subject matter, you executed it perfectly. I do not think a better video covering one of, if not the, most agrejous crimes perpetrated by *all* sides of the war will even be made. That last speech at the end, and I call it a speech because of just how well it was delivered, might be the best closing on this channel. Well done Spartacus.
The contextualization at the end, of the joy of sex and the twisted bastardization of it that rape is, really hit home
This was incredibly powerful. Well done.
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Tough to watch but I feel it's my duty to see this through. Thank you Spartacus. I will never forget
Some people believe "two wrongs make a right." A slippery slope right there...
I read ofa distressing case in post war Germany where three Germans were raped by British troops and one was accidentally killed when a revolver discharged. The investigation by the British decided that the German women asked for it by being German. Horrendous.
Don’t think slippery slope is the most appropriate metaphor lmao
Mixed metaphors so I'm not sure what you mean, exactly
@@phantomkate6 Seeking revenge, some might become what they sought to destroy.
Soviet raped roughly 1,5mln women, Germans 10mln. There is no slope there. German made evil trumps all.
US Forces in Britain were subject to US law. This meant hanging for rape - in Britain it was, and remains, punishable by imprisonment. The jail not far from where I live, in Shepton Mallet (now closed, and a museum well worth a visit) was taken over by US Forces and used for detention and 18 US servicemen were executed there. Sixteen were hanged and two were shot by firing squad. The Americans constructed their own execution wing, two storeys high that contained the gallows - it remains there today.
Of those executed, nine were convicted of murder, six of rape, and three of both those those crimes. 10 of those men were black, three white, and and three Hispanic. Given the relative numbers concerned, as Sparty notes, it appears on the face of things to indicate a bit of a skew towards one group.
When Emmett Till was murdered it was revealed his father was executed for rape while serving in Europe during WWII. This was use to slander Till who mind you was murdered for whistling at a white woman. Now the fathers’s case is considered doubtful and the “whistle” was likely a lisp Till had.
Yeah, FBI statistics don't lie either. Glad you brought it up! You're learning! 😅
"Given the relative numbers concerned, as Sparty notes, it appears on the face of things to indicate a bit of a skew towards one group.". We should be careful of making judgments, basically without evidence. Especially considering the nature of the crime and the effect it had on the victim. I would be interested, however uncomfortable it may be, seeing a expert in the field investigate and re examine those 16 cases. Both those that made it to a conviction and a bunch of examples of those that didn't. Until I see that, no conclusions.
@@StartledPancakeI get your skepticism of the skepticism but remember this was the era before DNA- or most accepted investigation methods. As Spartacus pointed out there was at least one case that was overturned when it was showed the soldier had given a confession under duress.
Fair enough, Im certain;y not trying to say that racism wasn't a massive problem during that period, particularly where the US was involved.@@SEAZNDragon
Best video yet on WAH. It needed to be said and it was handled properly. Rape is a terrible thing and you guys addressed it admirably.
Thanks for making these vids. IMO they are extremely important, especially considering the current direction of society.
Thanks a lot for your comment! Never Forget! -TimeGhost Ambassador
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Thanks to speak about the men Soldiers. In a very feminist era we live in right now, we don't understand that it's when the mens will have their own #MeToo that the rape % will drop. I'm currently writing a story about that, the German Soldiers who were raped. In my story there's even a couple of England Surgeons who are taking care of them. It says a lot about the distress of some of the Waffen SS Soldiers (Who were at the front and didn't even knew about death camps.) reacting to the films of the death camps that are shown by the Americans... And there's a Luftwaffe Pilot who is compleatly lost and he suicide... Big thank you for your videos!👍🏻
I'm so glad you are tackling this subject. War isn't just bullets and dead men. Its so much more and its so horrifying and women are victims of it that are rarely discussed. I am grateful that the Time Ghost staff isn't hiding from that. Thank you. Spartacus if I ever meet you I'm gonna give you the biggest bear hug (if you accept of course) because I can't imagine how hard it is to research all this and talk about it. But blesses to you for doing it. Been studying WWII for 20 years and this is the best documentary series I've ever seen. Keep it up. But also... take some care. This shit can be deleterious to the soul.
Sparty, that was direct, unflinching and used the well developed authority of your voice to the limit. Your end testament to love and detailed condemnation of rape as the opposite of love was possibly one of the most compelling uses of of prose i have ever heard .
There was obvious tension and emotive force trapped in your voice your expression delivery your body and totality. Sincerity score 100. BS detector needle stuck hard on zero. One of your most human moments on camera. Of which there have been many. in this series
Never forget the victims.
Thank you
yours
BB
Thank you - your observations mean a lot to me.
@@spartacus-olsson That is gratifying. However now my emotional reaction is spent I must return that as much I find your prose compelling I must employ scepticism in equal measure
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If there was a WW2 general thing
Why no accounts from the Foreign Legion. The West Indian troops in UK. ?
How can we ever know what the baseline rates were? What happened to entirely civilian rates in the same period.
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@@brucebartup6161 I’m not sure it’s that simple. The cases in Italy show that national or ethnic culture and tradition has little to do with it. It’s really about command attitude, willingness to enforce discipline, and opportunity.
@@spartacus-olsson I can certainly buy into ""it's more complicated". Guess I'll leave it there. I must just be careful in future to say "Bravo!!!" not ""Hear, hear!!"
thanks for taking the time
All the best
BB